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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: markecky on February 22, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
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A clear two handed push as he was about to head it in.
What did the ref think he did? Dive as he would have preferred a penalty?
I am utterly stunned that wasnt given..
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and the two just before it....
on wes, and then on twiss
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Defo penalty, blatant push as Reeves went to head the ball in.
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Absolutely incredible that it was not given. The most blatant penalty that I have seen in many years.Why didn't the linesman on the right hand side not flag for it.The officials were typical of the standard we have in this league : ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.
However, a sterling performance by the lads.Rankine seems to have become the new diving king a la Brodie.
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without wanting to become ATS.
I didn't hear anyone complaining about the softest penalty ever given at home to kettering on saturday.
I'm pretty sure they all even out of the year.
We probably deserved a win tonight, but i'd take a draw all day.
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Absolutely incredible that it was not given. The most blatant penalty that I have seen in many years.Why didn't the linesman on the right hand side not flag for it.The officials were typical of the standard we have in this league. ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.
However, a sterling performance by the lads.Rankine seems to have become the new diving king a la Brodie.
Without getting into how obvious tonight's foul was (I wasn't at the match), in general I wonder if our standards for refereeing are too high? By definition half the refs must be above average? Unless there's some sort of systematic bias against talented referees getting promoted from lower levels and these truly are the best refs bar those who are higher, then maybe its time to accept that we've got officials who make a reasonable number of mistakes per game?
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On this decision i think it was a matter of them bottling it they hav eto have seen both the shirt tug and push i was gobsmacked this was not given
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Its a fair point and we have to allow for refs to be a bit poorer than we see on MOTD etc.
However someone who wasn't a ref, or who didnt even play football, would have known that Reeves was stood up one minute about to head it in when a man arrived and flattened him.
It was so much a penalty it was weird how he could have thought of a reason not to give it...
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Personally I didn't think the ref was that bad- from a technical point of view anyway. The only things he got wrong was a few errors in the decision making process- but he was very good at stamping out the little things that annoy us, like nicking the odd 10 yards for throws, ect. If he can just get the odd big decision right, then I would expect to see him further up the ladder in years to come
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I was sat in the sponsors stand tonight side on, it was the most blatant two handed push as Reeves was about to head it into an empty net from a yard or so out. The linesman had exactly the same view as us, including 8 York fans who all said it was the most clear penalty you could ever seen. The ref may not have the best view but the liner did and he just bottled it, as he did a clear shirt pull on reeves as he got through on goal shortly after.
Yet more dreadful refereeing >:(
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I was on the half way line so had a totally useless view
However when I was walking round toward the end of the game an Alty Fan to whom I spoke who had been in line with the incident said that Reeves was on his way down before any contact was made with him.
Didn't see it so can't comment either way.
Thought Mr Wright was generally okay but still don't understand how Rankine never got a caution
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This just shows the commentators biased. It was mentioned briefly that the Alty fans appealed for something but they didn't know what for. All was mentioned that it should have been a goal but missed it.
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phil,
watch the video evidence and stop protecting sh12 refs
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If anything, the shirt pull was even more blatant. What a pity the referee was too far behind the play to see it.
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phil,
watch the video evidence and stop protecting sh12 refs
Brian
I can't protect him as I didn't clearly see it - read all my post please
What I am saying is that a guy sat in the family stand wearing an Alty Scarf told me it wasn't a foul
He may well have been mischievous, a York fan in disguise or short sighted but as I'm not saying definitively that it wasn't a penalty please don't falsely accuse me
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If anything, the shirt pull was even more blatant. What a pity the referee was too far behind the play to see it.
Phil
You'd expect that Assistant to give this decision to be fair as it was on his side in an area where you really wouldn't be going as a Referee running outside rights
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Sorry Phil,
Just so annoyed.
Damion told me what he felt in his back.
The vidio evedence I am told, and what I saw, it was a clear cut pen >:(
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I am absolutely pig sick with the standard of the refs at this level...it is ruining games. Every week the outcome of a game is heavily influenced by poor standards of refereeing.
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However someone who wasn't a ref, or who didnt even play football, would have known that Reeves was stood up one minute about to head it in when a man arrived and flattened him.
It was so much a penalty it was weird how he could have thought of a reason not to give it...
This. One minute Reeves was gearing it up to head it in, the next the ball was out of play iwth neither player having touched it. Did he think Reevesy was waiting to control it first? Terrible. I think the only reason he didn;t give it was he was wooried that he'd have to send the player off to.
The incident after was a tug initially but then Reevesy backed into him and went down off balance.
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I am absolutely pig sick with the standard of the refs at this level...it is ruining games. Every week the outcome of a game is heavily influenced by poor standards of refereeing.
Here here. Not a game goes by just lately when all the conversation is about inadequate offiicials. They are ruining this league unfortunately.
We had to suffer another fkn clown in a black strip tonight, Couldnt/wouldnt control the game
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I am absolutely pig sick with the standard of the refs at this level...it is ruining games. Every week the outcome of a game is heavily influenced by poor standards of refereeing.
Here here. Not a game goes by just lately when all the conversation is about inadequate offiicials. They are ruining this league unfortunately.
We had to suffer another fkn clown in a black strip tonight, Couldnt/wouldnt control the game
The ref couldn't give but the Assistant had a clear view and in my opinion he bottled it. It was a clear penalty and it could have been deemed denying a goalscoring opportunity.
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the officials are so bad they are predictable.
here's what i said on Monday (quote) ; surely a draw would be an acceptable result for both teams.....no disrespect towards anyone of course.....I guess the whole result depends on wether the officials are having marital problems or something...
Officials will make mistakes and I have no beef with that as we apparently missed a raft of chances last night (no I wasn't there coz I am skint at the moment).....difference is, our players will stand up and admit those mistakes and lose their place in the team etc...., when will we hear a ref say "I got it wrong" or a 4th official come out and say something.......and just as when the team play badly we are entitled to criticise we are also entitled to slate the officials.
It is the blinkered protection that refs get and their holier than thou attitude that gets me....at our level week in week out games are decided by the officials but the dinosaurs who run the game think we as fans love to debate after the game why our team is still in the relegation zone instead of doing something about it.
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Personally I didn't think the ref was that bad- from a technical point of view anyway. The only things he got wrong was a few errors in the decision making process- but he was very good at stamping out the little things that annoy us, like nicking the odd 10 yards for throws, ect. If he can just get the odd big decision right, then I would expect to see him further up the ladder in years to come
Cleaning fkn windows in Manchester ? ;)
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It was the liner who should have given it and the ref took a really good look at him following the appeal
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It was the liner who should have given it and the ref took a really good look at him following the appeal
Agreed.
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Do you lot expect Howard Webb every week or something?
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No expect someone of ability :)
Makes me laugh when people at work moan about Premiership refs.. My answer is always imagine the cr*p we must get if they are the best.
I think ref's get a hard time of it with all the slow motion replays, angles and time spent on deciding if decisions are correct or not (yes you have read right Phil) but getting basic decisions wrong is inexcusable and can't be down to anything but being incapable.
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Do you lot expect Howard Webb every week or something?
Howard Keel would be better than some of the jokers we get at ML
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sadly from our point of view by the sound of things,its football and stuff does get missed,but NORMALLY over a season it evens itself out.
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officials the main talking point again!!!!! worlds dullest
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I believe the club has captured this incident on film. If this is correct put it on You Tube so we can have a look.