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Title: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 21, 2010, 10:41:55 PM
Against the austrailian FA,This is a clear case of restraint of trade and dereliction of duty for starters.We are paying for a player that going to need another preseason at this rate.And is simply bot acceptable from a country that wants to hold a world cup in the next decade
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: distancetraveller on August 21, 2010, 10:45:47 PM
Against the austrailian FA,This is a clear case of restraint of trade and dereliction of duty for starters.We are paying for a player that going to need another preseason at this rate.And is simply bot acceptable from a country that wants to hold a world cup in the next decade

I would let them hold the world cup... Then when the picture has been taken they can put it down and told to piss off  :D

On a serious note ... It is unacceptable and as I have said previously... If it was a premiership player there registration would have been sent within 48 hrs..
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Bath Alty on August 21, 2010, 11:40:24 PM
The Nigerian West Brom signed LAST NIGHT from Moscow scored their winner today - one rule for the big clubs etc etc
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: RedhillAlty on August 22, 2010, 09:56:25 AM
Against the austrailian FA,This is a clear case of restraint of trade and dereliction of duty for starters.We are paying for a player that going to need another preseason at this rate.And is simply bot acceptable from a country that wants to hold a world cup in the next decade

I think there is no love lost between Soccer Australia and the FA and that they work on different wave lengths.
A Coach that was level 3 in Australia came to live in Surrey and was classified by the FA as only level 1 here (lowest coaching qualification).
However I cant see why in this day and age that an international clearance should not be done in a matter of minutes, allowing for time differences.
As for Australia's ability to handle a soccer world cup. I dont think that is in question as they are certainly capable in all areas. Soccer is run in Australia far better than South Africa. I have it from good authority that life after the World Cup in South Africa has returned to their'normal' with crime and corruption rife at all levels.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 22, 2010, 11:47:51 AM
If they cant get thier basic administration right they should not even be considered to stage the world cup,a month wait for international clearance is disgrace
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: RocketDan on August 22, 2010, 01:28:21 PM
could we just not play matt crowell in someone elses shirt? Do you think anyone would notice?
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: distancetraveller on August 22, 2010, 01:29:36 PM
could we just not play matt crowell in someone elses shirt? Do you think anyone would notice?

Colin fkn Peake would
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Dougals Dad on August 22, 2010, 02:34:24 PM
could we just not play matt crowell in someone elses shirt? Do you think anyone would notice?

Colin fkn Peake would

Mansfield would get video evidence.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 22, 2010, 04:56:17 PM
Its about time this was bought to the attention of the wider media, we have fans that work at the bbc or certainly have contacts in high profile media circles.We need the media to contact the aussie FA and ask them why their administration is so poor,and what sort of message they think its sending out about their organisation.And if they thinks its acceptable for somebody to not be able to play/do their job in their own country due to their malpractise 
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on August 22, 2010, 05:17:03 PM
Hughesy,

Quite regularly you post sensible points on here.

I would have to say however, in my opinion, this is one of your less well thought out ones.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Dougals Dad on August 22, 2010, 05:18:52 PM
Hughesy,

Quite regularly you post sensible points on here.

I would have to say however, in my opinion, this is one of your less well thought out ones.

Why?
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 22, 2010, 05:28:03 PM
Why? This bunch of idiots need showing up for what they are? I keep imagining them as those two lads sat in the beach hut on the fosters advert.Australia wants to develop as a footballing nation and even borrows english stadia to play friendlies with them having so many journeymen plying thier trade here.We need answers to whats going on,and their actions need highlights to FIFA and the wider public
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on August 22, 2010, 05:31:04 PM
I agree with Pete, this is a total disgrace and requires a proactive response, otherwise it's going to rumble on and on into the autumn.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: bigcol on August 22, 2010, 10:28:07 PM
Speaking of Australia, I think I've found us a player.

Joe Wright - 17 years old, plays for Adelaide Galaxy, product of the Rochdale youth system so is a local lad.

Check him out:

http://vimeo.com/5070997
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on August 22, 2010, 10:45:50 PM
I agree wholeheartedly that something needs to be done

However look how much we've been 'inconvenienced' when we haven't pissed off any FA's. I really wouldn't be wanting to act in an inappropriately 'gung ho' manner and risk really upsetting the respective administrations no matter how frustrated we may be.

I'd be making official representations and registering our displeasure via the FA in London, encouraging them to escalate the matter, if appropriate via FIFA
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Jezza on August 23, 2010, 06:48:05 AM
Perhaps FIFA could leap into action with our representations at the same time they implement fairness to the game?

On second thoughts we'd be better off waiting for crocodile dundee to finish his fosters and return the form by carrier kangaroo.

It needs highlighting....the Australian FA are a joke......Hughsey is 100% correct.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: distancetraveller on August 23, 2010, 08:16:06 AM
Are not FIFA over hear checking on our World Cup bid at present.

Someone should pull Mr Blatter to one side and bring it to his attention...

There again they will be so far up his arse that I doubt that will happen.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: taxi Phil on August 23, 2010, 08:59:47 AM
To get any action out of Bladder would require a bribe on a scale WAY out of our reach !
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: distancetraveller on August 23, 2010, 09:15:24 AM
To get any action out of Bladder would require a bribe on a scale WAY out of our reach !

True .... I suppose your talking a house in Alderly Edge and that may swing it  ;)
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Narcissist on August 23, 2010, 12:54:28 PM
I cant see us signing that many more players from the A league in the near future, so I wouldnt worry about annoying them.

In the meantime I found this:

jim.forrest@footballnsw.com.au

President of the New South Wales FA. Home of Central Coast Mariners.

Maybe a few mails for him to wake up to tomorrow explaining our predicament could help? Who knows?
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Dougals Dad on August 23, 2010, 03:14:56 PM
I cant see us signing that many more players from the A league in the near future, so I wouldnt worry about annoying them.

In the meantime I found this:

jim.forrest@footballnsw.com.au

President of the New South Wales FA. Home of Central Coast Mariners.

Maybe a few mails for him to wake up to tomorrow explaining our predicament could help? Who knows?

Email sent!
Title: Central Coast Mariners
Post by: Ballers on August 23, 2010, 04:06:33 PM
Bit pointless that. As far as I'm aware Central Coast Mariners were right on the ball with their part of the paperwork and sorted everything straight away. The deal has been signed and the matter is completely out of their hands. Use your brains.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on August 23, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
I cant see us signing that many more players from the A league in the near future, so I wouldnt worry about annoying them.

In the meantime I found this:

jim.forrest@footballnsw.com.au

President of the New South Wales FA. Home of Central Coast Mariners.

Maybe a few mails for him to wake up to tomorrow explaining our predicament could help? Who knows?

Effectively that would then be like the Australians emailing the Altrincham FA or the Cheshire FA when they signed Matty.

It's the national FAs that deal with this sort of thing so other than letting off a bit of steam there's probably not been much accomplished there

Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Dougals Dad on August 23, 2010, 06:02:13 PM
Except making them aware of the situation.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on August 23, 2010, 07:15:26 PM
Effectively that would then be like the Australians emailing the Altrincham FA or the Cheshire FA when they signed Matty.

It's the national FAs that deal with this sort of thing so other than letting off a bit of steam there's probably not been much accomplished there



Surely any serious issues like this which are reported to a regional branch of the FA should be passed on to the national FA, though?  How hard can it be to pick up the phone and have the problem dealt with properly?

It's just pure laziness and/or incompetence of the highest order.
Title: Central Coast Mariners
Post by: Ballers on August 23, 2010, 08:54:52 PM
Central Coast Mariners are the club though. They probably are aware of the situation. But it's got f all to do with them now. I think you're being a bit odd here jd and not making any sense. The Australian FA will be aware of the situation by the way due to derek constantly ringing them.
Title: Re: Central Coast Mariners
Post by: distancetraveller on August 23, 2010, 10:47:35 PM
Central Coast Mariners are the club though. They probably are aware of the situation. But it's got f all to do with them now. I think you're being a bit odd here jd and not making any sense. The Australian FA will be aware of the situation by the way due to derek constantly ringing them.
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I hope he is reversing the charge so those bastards pay for all the calls  :D
Title: Re: Central Coast Mariners
Post by: Dougals Dad on August 24, 2010, 10:25:01 AM
Central Coast Mariners are the club though. They probably are aware of the situation. But it's got f all to do with them now. I think you're being a bit odd here jd and not making any sense. The Australian FA will be aware of the situation by the way due to derek constantly ringing them.

Not the first time I've been odd and I'm sure it won't be the last!
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Narcissist on August 24, 2010, 11:40:06 AM
Christ!

Sorry I posted said chaps email on the forum, especially without explaining my exact thinking.

In fact it was done in the hope that perhaps a few people pestering him might make him drop a line to a fellow Australian who might, just might, decide to get off his arse and send the required fax.

Well pointed out that they are already aware of the situation as we ring them every day. However, unless you hadnt noticed despite being aware they have so far not done a f**king thing. So all the pestering in the world may prove of some assistance. When our ironing needs doing I tend to do it not immediately, but when I have been nagged literally into the job of doing it. Perhaps our friend at the Australian FA sees the fax machine in a similar manner and needs a bit of nagging.

Now, I hope this is clearer for everyone and poor JD can be let off the hook for his apparent lack of thought.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Ballers on August 24, 2010, 01:38:56 PM
Christ!

Sorry I posted said chaps email on the forum, especially without explaining my exact thinking.

In fact it was done in the hope that perhaps a few people pestering him might make him drop a line to a fellow Australian who might, just might, decide to get off his arse and send the required fax.

Well pointed out that they are already aware of the situation as we ring them every day. However, unless you hadnt noticed despite being aware they have so far not done a f**king thing. So all the pestering in the world may prove of some assistance. When our ironing needs doing I tend to do it not immediately, but when I have been nagged literally into the job of doing it. Perhaps our friend at the Australian FA sees the fax machine in a similar manner and needs a bit of nagging.

Now, I hope this is clearer for everyone and poor JD can be let off the hook for his apparent lack of thought.

Actually, sorry OCG and JD on my phone I read that as contacting Central Coast Mariners, which of courae would;ve been counter productive as they've done their bit and it's out of their hands. As ATS said it's like emailing Cheshire FA and asking them to hurry up the FA in London. Probably futile but if you've got 5 minutes spare then no problem.

*resolves to check things properly next time before getting sarky*  :-X
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: RocketDan on August 24, 2010, 01:45:56 PM
could we just not play matt crowell in someone elses shirt? Do you think anyone would notice?

Colin fkn Peake would

Mansfield would get video evidence.

stick matty crowell in Tom McCreedy's shirt. put one of those facemasks on people where when they have a broken face.
Bob's your uncle, nobody is any the wiser.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on August 24, 2010, 01:52:09 PM
I received the following reply from Jim Forrest this morning:

"Football NSW has no jurisdiction over Central Coast Mariners, who are in the national A-League, which is under the control of Football Federation Australia.  Internatinal transfers are entirely a matter for FFA, a process over to which FNSW has no input at all, I'm afraid.
 
Sorry,
 
Jim Forrest"



Prior to emailing Mr Forrest I had already sent an email to FFA, to which I have so far received no reply. I will post on here if I receive anything from them.....
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Dougals Dad on August 24, 2010, 10:42:39 PM

Actually, sorry OCG and JD

No apology needed - all fiends on here, even when disagreeing@





*Apart from Dino, who just talks cack!
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: taxi Phil on August 24, 2010, 11:37:04 PM


No apology needed - all fiends on here, even when disagreeing


We can do nicely without fiends !
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Dougals Dad on August 25, 2010, 01:10:23 AM


No apology needed - all fiends on here, even when disagreeing


We can do nicely without fiends !

I don't know my "R"s fom my elbow - of course that should be friends!
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: Narcissist on August 25, 2010, 04:38:36 PM
Any news on whether he is clear yet? This is crackers.
Title: Re: We need to threaten legal action
Post by: jimmyhank on August 25, 2010, 05:43:41 PM
No news on main website as of 5.40pm