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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: distancetraveller on August 27, 2012, 05:25:31 PM

Title: Time to Buy
Post by: distancetraveller on August 27, 2012, 05:25:31 PM
1940 fans were at todays game - By my reckoning the club took around £19.000  in Gate receipts alone and thats working on a cost of     £10-00 pound per head - if the club wants to challenge for the title then it has got to get away from the habit of picking up everybody elses cast offs for nothing and get at least a couple of decent players.

We have one of the best attendances in the league and charge the most in admission prices. OK some teams with lesser crowds have sugar daddys but not all of them ffs.

If the club want to progress and challenge for the league then things have to change. I just do not understand why we are never in a position to purchase any players when you consider that a very large percentage of employees at the club do it for the love of the club (and I do sincerely respect their efforts whole heartedly)
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: ALTYGAL on August 27, 2012, 05:30:08 PM
if we had cash to buy players would we really still be doing half time bucket collections to top us up each week.

i still rather have a mid table club, a cup run and no debts.

If we ain't got it we sure as hell shouldn't spend it.
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: Bob on August 27, 2012, 05:38:27 PM
I am convinced that there are fans who genuinely believe that the club is sitting on a pile of cash and choosing not to spend it.
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: robininstockport on August 27, 2012, 05:56:49 PM
Best wait for the police bill before we spend any
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: Timperley The Best on August 27, 2012, 06:04:08 PM
Best wait for the police bill before we spend any

what police? i saw  two at full time and that was it
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: OldhamAlty on August 27, 2012, 06:07:37 PM
There were a few police in the GRE for a while, at least 4, possibly a few more, because there were four police cars parked up outside when I left.
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: distancetraveller on August 27, 2012, 06:23:13 PM
I am convinced that there are fans who genuinely believe that the club is sitting on a pile of cash and choosing not to spend it.

Well this fan isnt claiming the club are sitting on a pile of cash I am just surprised that we havent actually paid a transfer fee for a player for quite a while
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: distancetraveller on August 27, 2012, 06:26:17 PM
if we had cash to buy players would we really still be doing half time bucket collections to top us up each week.

i still rather have a mid table club, a cup run and no debts.

If we ain't got it we sure as hell shouldn't spend it.

If we were loaded with cash I would still be happy to chuck a quid in the bucket each match I go to (as I do now) - A club at this level can never have enough money coming in -
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: DavidP on August 27, 2012, 07:40:02 PM
seriously this post is a joke. yes lets become a portsmouth or rangers. sorry no thanks love alty as we are debt free
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: distancetraveller on August 27, 2012, 08:04:15 PM
seriously this post is a joke. yes lets become a portsmouth or rangers. sorry no thanks love alty as we are debt free

This post isnt a joke. I was asking the question as to why we never ever buy a player. We will not get promotion by just signing frees all the time, and I too do not want us to go down the path of Pompey or Rangers - I was just asking the fkn question
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: Bob on August 27, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
If they command a transfer fee, they will be under contract. If they are on a contract, they are probably on good money. The transfer fee might not be the issue as much as the weekly total wage bill.
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: OldhamAlty on August 27, 2012, 08:29:58 PM
Obviously we can't know, but isn't it a tiny percentage of players at this level who are under multiyear contracts anyway? Nearly everyone is available every summer if they want the move.
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: DAB @ ALTY on August 28, 2012, 09:43:25 AM
I really don't think that there is money to be spent on transfer fees for players,if the club cannot even sort out the PA system to keep the fans informed of who is actually playing or being substituted etc.I would love to see our club being in a position to spend money on the transfer of players but let's get realistic,those days are long gone.We are a small town club who have been overtaken at our level by the big money injections of the one man Mr.Moneybags.
We have to accept that we are who we are now and live in hope that things may change one day and our club can once again progress to the higher levels of the non league game.
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: Ballers on August 28, 2012, 10:23:13 AM
seriously this post is a joke. yes lets become a portsmouth or rangers. sorry no thanks love alty as we are debt free

You do realise that they're in trouble because they didn't pay their taxes. It's an entirely different thing.

Are people so stupid that they can't imagine there is any other way than not spending at all or going bankrupt? Jesus wept.
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: Bob on August 28, 2012, 10:32:20 AM
I'm stupid - unless you mean have debts which are serviced or secured?
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: CB on August 28, 2012, 10:36:14 AM
If the club cannot even sort out the PA system to keep the fans informed of who is actually playing or being substituted etc.

Ha! I thought I was going nuts because I've been standing in a different part of the ground to last season. I still have no idea who half our players are!
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: brian1925 on August 28, 2012, 10:41:09 AM
Come on let's be honest here. There should be no need for any team at our level to have to spend a transfer fee on a player. I was quite taken aback by Stalybridge paying £5000 on a player from Frickley recently (until I remembered the money they obviously got for Jennings). Now, wages and inducements are quite a separate issue and I would honestly hope that given the attendance we get at matches that we'd be able to compete with 6 or 7 other teams in the league for desirable out-of-contract players, but we seem to struggle to even do that, which I don't understand. Are there just a lot of teams in our league with sugar daddies at the moment, or are their management teams just better at recruiting and motivating players?
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: arnald on August 28, 2012, 10:55:43 AM
crawl out the wood work against histon , lets get sinnot some dosh to spend ,
and stop these f c teams acting like a bunch of knob hounds , we can take em ;: come on
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: Ballers on August 28, 2012, 10:58:44 AM
I'm stupid - unless you mean have debts which are serviced or secured?

I don't think you're stupid Bob but you do seem to be scarred by events 10 years ago. Or do you seriously think that we can't spend any money without going ott and ending up in the taxman's office again?
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: Bob on August 28, 2012, 11:07:46 AM
But you can't spend it if you haven't got it, unless you set out to get into debt. Depends on the type of debt I guess.
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: RocketDan on August 28, 2012, 07:12:17 PM
Every spare penny should be spent on wages. There are enough footballers in the north west who are are not on fixed longterm contracts that we can get in on a free transfer as and when they become available. A couple of poor performances doesn't justify taking money out of the wage budget to spend on transfer fees.
Title: Re: Time to Buy
Post by: nutty on August 28, 2012, 09:20:22 PM
Surely we can find a decent left back somewhere instead of re-signing the likes of matt doughty!