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Title: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 17, 2016, 10:06:47 AM
Simply got to come away with three points on Saturday, if we aren't to see anyone come in on loan then, 



Patto---Cyrus--Heathcote-Charlton
Lynch----Goodhall----moult--Cain
--------------------Lawrie
--------------------Reeves

Round pegs for round holes, menagh for lynch should we need more pace

All those that aren't up to speed ie not fit enough, or aren't featuring give them 90 minutes for the reserves against poynton at home on Saturday and get them match fit
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: AFC56 on August 17, 2016, 10:32:34 AM
                            Senior

Patterson     Cyrus       Heathcote    Cain
     
Richman      Goodall    Moult           Lynch

                         Lawrie

                            Reeves

Menagh
Miller
Hasler-Cregg
Garner
Charlton (as an option for left wing)




Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: brinners on August 17, 2016, 10:34:28 AM
GK

Patterson
Cain
Cyrus
Moult

Goodall
Richman
Menagh
Cregg

Lawrie
Reeves

Cyrus needs some experience with him at the heart of defence. I don't know what this manager has got against Jamie Menagh. Surely Hasler-Cregg has recovered by now. You can't have Lynch, Moult and Goodall all in the same team, as they are too similar and will contribute nothing to our problem with lack of width. Hopefully there will be 3 out and 3 in, with a Gk and a loan experienced centre back leading the way.


Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: AFC56 on August 17, 2016, 10:45:21 AM
Lynch isn't ideal for the left wing by any means but he has a left foot and can run therefore gets the spot (not a lot of options). If Menagh had played more football I'd play him. Goodall can anchor allowing Moult to break forward, like he used to before we converted him to holding player.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on August 17, 2016, 11:18:08 AM
   
Richman      Goodall    Moult           Lynch

While I can see the reasoning for it, this is why we got destroyed last night. Lynch and Richman on the wings gets a resounding no from me. They'll offer absolutely no width.

Dawber

Patterson      Heathcote      Cyrus      Charlton

Goodall         Moult

Miller                      Lawrie         Hasler-Cregg

Reeves (c)

These appear worse than us. We've been setting up to defend over the past three games and I think going on the offensive could be a breath of fresh air. So that's what this team does.

Patterson in a familiar right-back role with an attacking left-back in Charlton. Two actual wingers to stretch the play in Miller and Hasler-Cregg. If Hasler-Cregg is still a no show then Charlton moves to the wing and Cain comes in at left-back. Both full-backs overlap as much as possible.

Goodall has been rightly moved out of the defence and back into the middle of the park where he can actually hold an influence over the game, alongside Jake it should be a decent partnership. With James Lawrie in the hole, these three should provide enough creativity to take hold of the game. It may seem unfair to drop Lynch but unfortunately there isn't space in the side for that many central midfielders. I've been very impressed with how tenacious he is but I think now is the time to start developing a solid playing partnership in the middle. For me the two are Moult and Goodall.

Damian Reeves is always going to look ineffective when we're creating nothing. Hopefully with actual wingers on the field we can create more space for him to find in the middle. Playing so narrow last night made a mockery of him.

The goalkeeping situation we have is very real, and very scary, but this is Dawbers last chance now against a side that have been very goal shy. Watching us concede six could give him the impetus to come in and prove his worth.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: brinners on August 17, 2016, 11:34:51 AM
I can see exactly why you'd choose that defence, but it is very, very young. We're not all selecting the same team, but we are all thinking along the same lines - width urgently needed - too many similar type narrow players - Gk situation is a disaster etc. We need movement from the club in the next couple of days, both in and out. Perhaps NY is very busy and that's why we haven't heard from him yet, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: GolfRoader on August 17, 2016, 11:59:28 AM
                            Senior

Patterson     Cyrus       Heathcote    Cain
     
Richman      Goodall    Moult           Lynch

                         Lawrie

                            Reeves

Menagh
Miller
Hasler-Cregg
Garner
Charlton (as an option for left wing)






Wonder if Stu fancies a game?

...I'm only semi joking
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: taxi Phil on August 17, 2016, 02:35:09 PM
If we don't borrow an experienced keeper we're screwed. We could play those two in goal together and not keep a clean sheet.

I'm a little worried that NY's alleged tendency at Stockport to take players on loan, then send them back early, may have earned him a negative reputation when he comes knocking.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: York Alty is back on August 17, 2016, 06:41:14 PM
Quality Keepers are hard to find. We need somebody in sharpish. Fingers crosed. We were spoilt by that pesky Coburn!
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: wayno on August 17, 2016, 06:53:53 PM
Quality Keepers are hard to find. We need somebody in sharpish. Fingers crosed. We were spoilt by that pesky Coburn!
And deasy
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: York Alty is back on August 17, 2016, 07:27:44 PM
Quality Keepers are hard to find. We need somebody in sharpish. Fingers crosed. We were spoilt by that pesky Coburn!
And deasy

Should have kept him.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on August 17, 2016, 07:35:23 PM
Quality Keepers are hard to find. We need somebody in sharpish. Fingers crosed. We were spoilt by that pesky Coburn!
And deasy

Should have kept him.

We weren't spoilt by Tim Deasy.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Teasierbeaver on August 19, 2016, 03:41:59 PM
Now the dust has settled lets get right back behind them, including the manager!

Ok, Tuesday was awful and we expect better. But nobody should forget that we've had a tentatively exciting summer watching this squad take shape and Neil Young knows what it takes. Now its time to find out if he has what it takes with our budget. He's said the usual things, we know he wasn't happy. He's taken some of the blame so I fully expect that there will be a reaction tomorrow.

Fingers crossed its the right reaction otherwise I can't blame people for calling for his head, and thats before i've seen us kick a ball!!! A win makes it an average, excusable start to the season, a draw makes it a poor start. A defeat is going to be hard to swallow!

Come on Alty, put it right, make us smile!

I'm going for a gutsy 3-2 win, holding on at the end after coming back from 1-0 down to lead 3-1. Dont care who scores them, dont care how many go, just get the bloody win lads!
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 20, 2016, 11:22:00 AM
Gainsborough 10/3
Draw 3/1
Altrincham 16/5
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Bath Alty on August 20, 2016, 12:17:30 PM
Gainsborough 10/3
Draw 3/1
Altrincham 16/5

Really?  Lump £150 on all three options
Gainsborough returns £500
draw gets you £450 back
Alty pays £480
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 20, 2016, 02:34:41 PM
Dawber, Patterson, Sumner, Cyrus, Heathcote, Goodall (c), Lawrie, Moult, Bell, Reeves, Lynch.

Subs Preston richman menagh Joyce Hattersley
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on August 20, 2016, 02:39:12 PM
Good to see fresh faces in the team, but no width again. Let's see how it goes. Come on Alty
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on August 20, 2016, 02:46:45 PM
No wingers but I think we'll have some width with Patterson and Sumner who both like to get forward with Goodall and Moult dropping in to cover.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: brinners on August 20, 2016, 03:01:13 PM
I think Cregg, Charlton, Cain and Melz must have died. At least it's a balanced team today.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on August 20, 2016, 03:13:05 PM
Can't get RR
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: brinners on August 20, 2016, 03:21:13 PM
Me neither
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: VofD on August 20, 2016, 03:23:36 PM
Can anybody get RR?
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 20, 2016, 03:24:06 PM
Is their a BBC commentary??
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Bath Alty on August 20, 2016, 03:28:40 PM
no RR today - server issue.  Brian updating via chatroom
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on August 20, 2016, 04:27:27 PM
f**kin Dawber again!!
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on August 20, 2016, 04:34:49 PM
Sounds like Dawber made some good saves, but where's the defence to mop up?

Personally I think we are poor, no creativity is limiting opportunities up front. typical us against bottom of the table.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: D.A. ALTY on August 20, 2016, 04:37:15 PM
Any score ? Carnt find it anywhere
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: arnald on August 20, 2016, 04:41:37 PM
1 nil down
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: arnald on August 20, 2016, 04:42:44 PM
2nill down
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: brinners on August 20, 2016, 04:42:55 PM
2 down and very out
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Frosty on August 20, 2016, 04:44:55 PM
What the f**k is going on???? Why was deasy released?????
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: D.A. ALTY on August 20, 2016, 04:46:00 PM
Cheers
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: arnald on August 20, 2016, 04:47:41 PM
I think it's cyrus turn  today for a bad game
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on August 20, 2016, 04:48:02 PM
I'm as frustrated as anyone, but deasy went for cost. Defence is not protecting dawber, who has made many saves already. were just sh*t unfortunately.

Going to be a long season unless we improve quickly
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: AFC56 on August 20, 2016, 04:51:38 PM
I don't for one minute believe that deasey was on so much money that we had to get rid of him. Truth is that Neil Younb didn't want him. If he did fancy him I'm sure a deal could have been sorted. Neil has a budget and makes the decisions, he seems to have gone for quantity not quality.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Frosty on August 20, 2016, 04:52:10 PM
If we dont improve we will go down
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: brinners on August 20, 2016, 04:53:35 PM
Deasy did not go for cost. We are paying two keepers who are useless. It was a very, very bad judgement call by NY. In a similar way, Rankine did not go for cost. Hattersley and Hobson will not score a single goal between them. Another very poor judgement call by NY. He needs to walk right now.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: arnald on August 20, 2016, 04:59:16 PM
Two new players on the way we will have a squad of 40 pub league
Players soon
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 20, 2016, 04:59:31 PM
10 victories in 55 league fixtures, disgraceful
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Frosty on August 20, 2016, 05:01:00 PM
He does not need to go yet but he does need to win the next five, just to clarify are all his signings wank?
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: arnald on August 20, 2016, 05:03:02 PM
Why did bell go off
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: casper on August 20, 2016, 05:03:54 PM
That was awful. Dawber not at fault for the goals, but didn't shine.
Healthote ok, but fluffed a couple chances.
We looked OK for the first 10 minutes in both halves, but we're than amazing shocking.

Don't think we had a shot on target, nearest being Lawies halfway lob.

Completely unacceptable against a team that was not brilliant either.

No width, no urgency to get forward or support for attacking or pressure.

Complete shambolic performance. Really fear for the rest of the season, unless some drastic changes are made.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: GB Alty on August 20, 2016, 05:13:51 PM
We need to act now to avoid a second relegation

We have today lost to one of the relegation favourites, so its pretty clear where we're at
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Cheadle Hulme Alty on August 20, 2016, 05:16:52 PM
As predicted. No attacking ideas again by the sounds of it, no width or creativity from midfield. I assume Young's answer will be to bring another four or five players in over the next week or so.

An 18th at best finish is looking a tad optimistic at the moment!
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on August 20, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
 mega depressing, hope we can sort this out and soon.  :-[
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on August 21, 2016, 12:49:06 PM
The goals

https://www.youtube.com/embed/QTorEKR8gRg
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: robininstockport on August 21, 2016, 01:06:49 PM
Dear God
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: SW on August 21, 2016, 01:13:02 PM
Couldn't put it better myself.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Mausoleum Alty on August 21, 2016, 01:52:58 PM
Poor defending and woeful goalkeeping for the first and alehouse stuff from Cyrus for the second.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: Mick on August 21, 2016, 01:57:46 PM
The best bit was the advertisement for the truck servicing company
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: wayno on August 21, 2016, 09:44:32 PM
Dear God

How have we stooped so low ? What a disgrace to Moss Lane
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: wayno on August 21, 2016, 09:46:04 PM
In all my years of following this great Club I can't recall it being this awful and that is 30 years plus
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: York Alty is back on August 21, 2016, 10:29:02 PM
Piss poor.
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: taxi Phil on August 22, 2016, 12:22:43 AM
Gainsborough's manager describes us as a good side who will be up there at the end of the season.  He doesn't specify which season or which league. .
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: arnald on August 22, 2016, 08:02:02 AM
Gainsborough will win the league  before we do  time to act get rid of the lot now
Title: Re: Gainsborough - Match thread
Post by: arnald on August 22, 2016, 08:04:35 AM
Gainsborough will win the league  before we do  time to act get rid of the lot now
Same here wayno time to act mate this guy's got it wrong