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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on December 15, 2022, 09:42:19 AM
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Same starting 11 whether its Saturday or Tuesday.
They're struggling in the league for some reason, got a decent squad but just can't win.
Get 3 in front and rest a few.
Alty 4-0 Curzon. (Colclough x 2, Jennings, Conn-Clarke)
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Can see my mate Tom bagging leading to a trial next summer.
Hoping it's on
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Can see my mate Tom bagging leading to a trial next summer.
Hoping it's on
After coming on as an impact sub? 😉😎😂
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Same starting 11 whether its Saturday or Tuesday.
They're struggling in the league for some reason, got a decent squad but just can't win.
Get 3 in front and rest a few.
Alty 4-0 Curzon. (Colclough x 2, Jennings, Conn-Clarke)
Your second paragraph should have filled me full of optimism. Alty being Alty those words may come back to bite us. Perhaps we are new Alty now and the curse has been lifted. We can't keep missing the chance of a cup run indefinitely.
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Weather forecast says it won't get above freezing before 9am on Saturday morning, so I suspect it'll be played Tuesday evening.
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Whether it’s Sat or Tuesday , I think he’ll take the opportunity to give some lads game time. I’m thinking Hulme, Osborne, Pringle, Gould will all get a run out, possibly Denanga too.
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Whether it’s Sat or Tuesday , I think he’ll take the opportunity to give some lads game time. I’m thinking Hulme, Osborne, Pringle, Gould will all get a run out, possibly Denanga too.
You may well be right but I feel keeping the same side and keeping the run going together with building even more understanding amongst the team could be worth considering.
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We should be putting our strongest team out and aiming to get to Wembley. On the whole, our performance in this competition since our last quarter final in 1995 has been woefully sub-standard.
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Whether it’s Sat or Tuesday , I think he’ll take the opportunity to give some lads game time. I’m thinking Hulme, Osborne, Pringle, Gould will all get a run out, possibly Denanga too.
I seem to remember PP doing this once before. Not only did we exit that particular cup competition, we subsequently went on a losing run in the league. Pick a strong bench, get our first choice team to clinch the game inside an hour, then give the subs some exercise.
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Whether it’s Sat or Tuesday , I think he’ll take the opportunity to give some lads game time. I’m thinking Hulme, Osborne, Pringle, Gould will all get a run out, possibly Denanga too.
I seem to remember PP doing this once before. Not only did we exit that particular cup competition, we subsequently went on a losing run in the league. Pick a strong bench, get our first choice team to clinch the game inside an hour, then give the subs some exercise.
Correct, we aren’t a big enough club to disrespect a cup we’ve Not got to the 1/4 finals of for 28 years. Which is frankly f**king ludicrous in itself.
Since we last reached the last 8 of this competition it has been won by, and this is only a sample over that 28 long years
Macclesfield
Kingstonian
Canvey Island
Burscough
Grays twice
North Ferriby
Brackley
Fylde
Hornchurch
Bromley
So the last thing we should do is make another half arsed effort in it, we’ve not one the thing for 36 years of which most of that time has been spent in the top flight. And it’s easier to win now since the playoffs became a thing
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Whether it’s Sat or Tuesday , I think he’ll take the opportunity to give some lads game time. I’m thinking Hulme, Osborne, Pringle, Gould will all get a run out, possibly Denanga too.
I seem to remember PP doing this once before. Not only did we exit that particular cup competition, we subsequently went on a losing run in the league. Pick a strong bench, get our first choice team to clinch the game inside an hour, then give the subs some exercise.
Correct, we aren’t a big enough club to disrespect a cup we’ve Not got to the 1/4 finals of for 28 years. Which is frankly f**king ludicrous in itself.
Since we last reached the last 8 of this competition it has been won by, and this is only a sample over that 28 long years
Macclesfield
Kingstonian
Canvey Island
Burscough
Grays twice
North Ferriby
Brackley
Fylde
Hornchurch
Bromley
So the last thing we should do is make another half arsed effort in it, we’ve not one the thing for 36 years of which most of that time has been spent in the top flight. And it’s easier to win now since the playoffs became a thing
Spot on. Considering most top half Conference sides don’t take it seriously & haven’t done for some time now it’s baffling with the various good sides we’ve produced in the last 10 years under Sinnott & Parky that we’ve got absolutely nowhere in the Trophy. No need to rest too many, plenty of time off before ‘Fax. Let’s go out & treat the competition with respect & put a few past Curzon.
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It’ll will be Tuesday night rather than Saturday but yes, no messing about. Wasn’t that long ago farsley knocked us out and Bognor Regis
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I'd like to think that now we are full time, Parky doesn't need to give squad players as much of a run out in the Trophy. He's said in the past about how he used to have to look at players in games, or in evening training sessions.
Now he can see them daily. I too would welcome a first team selection against Curzon.
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We need to go full strength and aim to win this competition - no risks taken!
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...Our FA Trophy record since the turn of the millennium has been a disgrace.
2000/01: Second Round
2001/02: Third Round
2002/03: Fourth Round
2003/04: Fifth Round
2004/05: Fifth Round
2005/06: First Round
2006/07: First Round
2007/08: First Round
2008/09: First Round
2009/10: Second Round
2010/11: Second Round
2011/12: Third Qualifying Round
2012/13: First Round
2013/14: First Round
2014/15: Third Round
2015/16: Second Round
2016/17: First Round
2017/18: First Round
2018/19: First Round
2019/20: First Round
2020/21: Fourth Round (Forfeit) (entered 3rd)
2021/22: Third Round (entered 3rd)
Full strength, please. The schedule isn't congested enough to be rotating. The first team need minutes after Tuesday night's postponement.
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That's only half the story because it doesn't say who knocked us out.
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They haven't set the league alight but only lost to Cambridge on pens in the cup and kept a clean sheet over the 2 games . They will be fired up and capable of upsetting us.
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2000/01: Second Round - Bishop Auckland (Ilkeston)
2001/02: Second Round - North Ferriby ( Accrington Stanley Soalding
2002/03: Fourth Round - Aylesbury United (BPA Ketteting)
2003/04: Fifth Round - Shrewsbury Town (Gateshead Southport Runcorn, Weymouth)
2004/05: Fifth Round - Grays Athletic (Oassetx Gainsborough, Leigh RMI, Barrow)
2005/06: First Round - Accrington Stanley
2006/07: First Round - Tamworth
2007/08: First Round - York City
2008/09: First Round - Southport
2009/10: Second Round - AFC Wimbledon (Wrexham)
2010/11: Second Round - Blyth Spartans (Curzon)
2011/12: Third Qualifying Round - FC United)
2012/13: First Round - FC Halifax (Worcester)
2013/14: First Round Leek Town (Colwyn Bay)
2014/15: Third Round - Bath City ( Macc Town Kiddy)
2015/16: Second Round - Bognor (Leamington)
2016/17: First Round - Macc Replay (Blyth)
2017/18: First Round - Warrington Replay (Clitheroe Ramsbottom Alfreton)
2018/19: First Round - Stockport
2019/20: First Round Farsley Replay (York)
2020/21: Fourth Round (Forfeit) (entered 3rd) Havant (Chester)
2021/22: Third Round (entered 3rd) Notts County
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Were we at home or away in the above ties?
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https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/weather-claims-curzon-trophy-tie-but-its-on-for-tuesday
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Were we at home or away in the above ties?
And who did the half time talks?
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2000/01: Second Round - Bishop Auckland (Ilkeston)
2001/02: Second Round - North Ferriby ( Accrington Stanley Soalding
2002/03: Fourth Round - Aylesbury United (BPA Ketteting)
2003/04: Fifth Round - Shrewsbury Town (Gateshead Southport Runcorn, Weymouth)
2004/05: Fifth Round - Grays Athletic (Oassetx Gainsborough, Leigh RMI, Barrow)
2005/06: First Round - Accrington Stanley
2006/07: First Round - Tamworth
2007/08: First Round - York City
2008/09: First Round - Southport
2009/10: Second Round - AFC Wimbledon (Wrexham)
2010/11: Second Round - Blyth Spartans (Curzon)
2011/12: Third Qualifying Round - FC United)
2012/13: First Round - FC Halifax (Worcester)
2013/14: First Round Leek Town (Colwyn Bay)
2014/15: Third Round - Bath City ( Macc Town Kiddy)
2015/16: Second Round - Bognor (Leamington)
2016/17: First Round - Macc Replay (Blyth)
2017/18: First Round - Warrington Replay (Clitheroe Ramsbottom Alfreton)
2018/19: First Round - Stockport
2019/20: First Round Farsley Replay (York)
2020/21: Fourth Round (Forfeit) (entered 3rd) Havant (Chester)
2021/22: Third Round (entered 3rd) Notts County
Some big names in there....and not so big . A grim reminder of our woeful trophy record over the last 20 years...and more . Is it really 36 years since Mike Farrelly's scorcher hit corn's net.
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https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/weather-claims-curzon-trophy-tie-but-its-on-for-tuesday
Fully expected and sensible but annoying because I've got a Christmas Dinner on Tuesday so won't be there
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2000/01: Second Round - Bishop Auckland (Ilkeston)
2001/02: Second Round - North Ferriby ( Accrington Stanley Soalding
2002/03: Fourth Round - Aylesbury United (BPA Ketteting)
2003/04: Fifth Round - Shrewsbury Town (Gateshead Southport Runcorn, Weymouth)
2004/05: Fifth Round - Grays Athletic (Oassetx Gainsborough, Leigh RMI, Barrow)
2005/06: First Round - Accrington Stanley
2006/07: First Round - Tamworth
2007/08: First Round - York City
2008/09: First Round - Southport
2009/10: Second Round - AFC Wimbledon (Wrexham)
2010/11: Second Round - Blyth Spartans (Curzon)
2011/12: Third Qualifying Round - FC United)
2012/13: First Round - FC Halifax (Worcester)
2013/14: First Round Leek Town (Colwyn Bay)
2014/15: Third Round - Bath City ( Macc Town Kiddy)
2015/16: Second Round - Bognor (Leamington)
2016/17: First Round - Macc Replay (Blyth)
2017/18: First Round - Warrington Replay (Clitheroe Ramsbottom Alfreton)
2018/19: First Round - Stockport
2019/20: First Round Farsley Replay (York)
2020/21: Fourth Round (Forfeit) (entered 3rd) Havant (Chester)
2021/22: Third Round (entered 3rd) Notts County
Underwhelming.
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https://www.thefa.com/competitions/fa-trophy/more/fa-trophy-prize-fund
Its over £100k prize money in total for the winner, so its worth a shot just for that.
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Thaw set in as predicted and now assume game will be on.
Assume same line-up as last game as we look to progress in the Trophy. should be an interesting game.
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At £15.00, I'm hoping we'll see a full strength, first choice team
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At £15.00, I'm hoping we'll see a full strength, first choice team
I agree. The more times the first choice eleven play together, the more successful they're likely to be. They need to be settled and confident for the two games with Halifax. They're likely to be low scoring matches and our defence needs to be up to the mark. I would suggest our front lads will get few chances against their apparently well drilled defence so we will need to snap up the ones which come their way. Not a time to fiddle with the team selection I think.
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I'm hoping that we play our normal 1st XI and can see so reason why not tbf. The team had shown a degree of confidence that was lacking in the early part of the season and I'd want to secure and embed that before the next round of league fixtures. That aside, I think a strong cup run offers something extra that we've sadly missed. Looking forward to it.
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At £15.00, I'm hoping we'll see a full strength, first choice team
Only £10.00 if you were a season ticket holder.
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At £15.00, I'm hoping we'll see a full strength, first choice team
Only £10.00 if you were a season ticket holder.
What about pensioner ST holders?
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At £15.00, I'm hoping we'll see a full strength, first choice team
Only £10.00 if you were a season ticket holder.
Either way, let's win it.
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Given we won't have played for 10 days - and Boxing Day means the next fixture is pushed out a couple of days too - I can see absolutely no reason whatsoever that Parky wouldn't just name his strongest XI to keep them all as match sharp as possible.
We haven't even got a fixture on the 28th this year, so there doesn't really seem to be any need to rest anyone.
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Given we won't have played for 10 days - and Boxing Day means the next fixture is pushed out a couple of days too - I can see absolutely no reason whatsoever that Parky wouldn't just name his strongest XI to keep them all as match sharp as possible.
We haven't even got a fixture on the 28th this year, so there doesn't really seem to be any need to rest anyone.
Exactly!
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Only change in the line up is Hulme for Jennings. 👍
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Only change in the line up is Hulme for Jennings. 👍
Lundstrum off for Osborne
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We'll be all the better for this game. Making hard work if it but we'll benefit in the next game.
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When was the last time Altrincham faced that many ex-Alty players in one team? I had to keep reminding myself it wasn't a testimonial. I kept expecting Shaun Densmore and John Johnston to come on.
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Yes. Am I correct in thinking that there were more players in the Curzon team who played for Alty last year than there were in the Alty side?
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Sean Densmore was stood watching the game with Stuart Coburn.
Whilst appreciating that Jordan needed minutes, IMO, playing him instead of Jennings weakened the side appreciably
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Better team won, but made very hard work of it.
Can't fault Hulmes work rate and he defo needed the minuets but he a level below Jennings.
Lundstram is a massive miss.
Great to progress but the performance won't send shock waves to Wrexham
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Should have won 5/6-0.
The 705 ATT is a much clearer representation of where our core support is at than the 2k+ average we achieved last season. Still a National League North level fanbase when it all boils down to a ticketed Tuesday night game.
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About as laboured as many of us feared, although there was only really one team in it.
Larges parts of the game played out like an attack v defence drill between two very tippy tappy teams. Wasn't the worst game in the world to watch as a result, but by God I wish we'd be more ruthless.
They allowed us plenty of space and made CCC look like Messi. None of our former lads were ever really in it.
Sadly I'm in agreement regarding Jordan - I love the fella, but it would have made more sense if he was lining up for Curzon Ashton tonight.
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A very one-sided game that in typical Alty style we failed to win convincingly.
One downside of the evening was the behaviour of some of our supporters - the bunch of kids behind the goal shouting relentless, tedious and crude abuse at the Curzon keeper can perhaps be forgiven due to their age. However, the blokes who nicked the Curzon flag at half time really should have a word with themselves. It’s a shame that the stewards didn’t seem interested when they were pointed out, despite the repeated PA announcements on the subject.
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A very one-sided game that in typical Alty style we failed to win convincingly.
One downside of the evening was the behaviour of some of our supporters - the bunch of kids behind the goal shouting relentless, tedious and crude abuse at the Curzon keeper can perhaps be forgiven due to their age. However, the blokes who nicked the Curzon flag at half time really should have a word with themselves. It’s a shame that the stewards didn’t seem interested when they were pointed out, despite the repeated PA announcements on the subject.
we pay a lot for these stewards now . I hope we are asking for a refund for incompetence
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A very one-sided game that in typical Alty style we failed to win convincingly.
One downside of the evening was the behaviour of some of our supporters - the bunch of kids behind the goal shouting relentless, tedious and crude abuse at the Curzon keeper can perhaps be forgiven due to their age. However, the blokes who nicked the Curzon flag at half time really should have a word with themselves. It’s a shame that the stewards didn’t seem interested when they were pointed out, despite the repeated PA announcements on the subject.
we pay a lot for these stewards now . I hope we are asking for a refund for incompetence
I’m sorry,
We all like a laugh, don’t you think the THIEF that stole the flag just hand it back ?
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About as laboured as many of us feared, although there was only really one team in it.
Larges parts of the game played out like an attack v defence drill between two very tippy tappy teams. Wasn't the worst game in the world to watch as a result, but by God I wish we'd be more ruthless.
They allowed us plenty of space and made CCC look like Messi. None of our former lads were ever really in it.
Sadly I'm in agreement regarding Jordan - I love the fella, but it would have made more sense if he was lining up for Curzon Ashton tonight.
Yep. We should have patted them on the head & had the cigars out with 30 mins left. As it is, symptomatic of our season that we were holding on at the death in a game we should have been well clear in. Onto Fax & Wrexham anyway where we won’t get nearly as many chances so I hope the players have learnt.
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Behaviour by some among our support was disgraceful this evening. I hope the moron who shouted the most vile abuse at their ‘keeper through most of the first half is never allowed back in the ground. He was rightly slung out at h/t.
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Was he though, pretty sure I saw that group in the Golf Road during the 2nd half. Most of that group should have been thrown out during the 1st half, but unfortunately our stewarding is too passive to do that.
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Should have won 5/6-0.
The 705 ATT is a much clearer representation of where our core support is at than the 2k+ average we achieved last season. Still a National League North level fanbase when it all boils down to a ticketed Tuesday night game.
In all seriousness, just how many were you expecting to turn out for that one?
Alas, the halcyon days of respectable attendances at this early stage of the FA Trophy have long gone.
As for the actual game, we were repeatedly rather guilty of trying to walk the ball into the net and should have won by a far more comfortable margin.
Anyhow, £4.5k prize money duly secured.
None of us will be dwelling too much on this tie when we are enjoying the pre-match Club Wembley hospitality on Sunday, 21st May 2023....
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Unfortunately there are still a number of people who believe that their Season Ticket should grant them entry to.all home games, irrespective of the competition and point blank refuse to pay to attend FA competitions
I know it's been a while and I'm not trying to tempt fate but I wonder how many would continue this policy if we were playing a Semi Final?
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Should have won 5/6-0.
The 705 ATT is a much clearer representation of where our core support is at than the 2k+ average we achieved last season. Still a National League North level fanbase when it all boils down to a ticketed Tuesday night game.
In all seriousness, just how many were you expecting to turn out for that one?
Alas, the halcyon days of respectable attendances at this early stage of the FA Trophy have long gone.
As for the actual game, we were repeatedly rather guilty of trying to walk the ball into the net and should have won by a far more comfortable margin.
Anyhow, £4.5k prize money duly secured.
None of us will be dwelling too much on this tie when we are enjoying the pre-match Club Wembley hospitality on Sunday, 21st May 2023....
6-700, the attendance was about what I expected. My point is that we seem to wax lyrical about growing attendances but when you take the floaters out of the equation it’s still the same folk who came to watch us play Rushall Olympic, and that’s a problem.
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I thought attendances for the early rounds of the Trophy and Cheshire Senior Cup used to be round the 300 mark? So we're still on the 👆!
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It was the Tuesday before Christmas. That would take a few out of the equation.
Also, for a normal league match attendance figures would include all ST holders regardless of how many turn up.
Did many come down from Ashton?
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for a normal league match attendance figures would include all ST holders regardless of how many turn up.
I think I've asked this before but can't recall the answer. Is this true?
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True - the declared matchday attendance is people who have paid to watch the game - regardless of whether they are there in person or not.
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A very one-sided game that in typical Alty style we failed to win convincingly.
One downside of the evening was the behaviour of some of our supporters - the bunch of kids behind the goal shouting relentless, tedious and crude abuse at the Curzon keeper can perhaps be forgiven due to their age. However, the blokes who nicked the Curzon flag at half time really should have a word with themselves. It’s a shame that the stewards didn’t seem interested when they were pointed out, despite the repeated PA announcements on the subject.
we pay a lot for these stewards now . I hope we are asking for a refund for incompetence
I’m sorry,
We all like a laugh, don’t you think the THIEF that stole the flag just hand it back ?
I know you're older and rose tinted, but away fans should never have been allowed to stand and display flags in and amongst where Altrincham fans congregate.
Swap 1 club for many in the NL and FL and that'd have been a full on fight.
Not condoning the theft but let's question why they were stood amongst our most vocal fans with 4/5th of the ground tk stand
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Should have won 5/6-0.
The 705 ATT is a much clearer representation of where our core support is at than the 2k+ average we achieved last season. Still a National League North level fanbase when it all boils down to a ticketed Tuesday night game.
In all seriousness, just how many were you expecting to turn out for that one?
Alas, the halcyon days of respectable attendances at this early stage of the FA Trophy have long gone.
As for the actual game, we were repeatedly rather guilty of trying to walk the ball into the net and should have won by a far more comfortable margin.
Anyhow, £4.5k prize money duly secured.
None of us will be dwelling too much on this tie when we are enjoying the pre-match Club Wembley hospitality on Sunday, 21st May 2023....
Hear Hear , and a nice thought to be mulled over through Christmas , and no whines please !
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I was due to be there last night but had to miss the game. My younger foster daughter broke her toe playing football at her holiday club and I had to take her to Wythenshawe Hospital. She was due to go to the game also, and we had already purchased tickets, but could not use them.
She is out of the Black Kites team for up to 6 weeks unfortunately, and is absolutely gutted.
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So unlucky , bless her and hope she makes a full recovery .
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Inflation, strikes, Christmas, lurgy doing the rounds, etc etc.
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A very one-sided game that in typical Alty style we failed to win convincingly.
One downside of the evening was the behaviour of some of our supporters - the bunch of kids behind the goal shouting relentless, tedious and crude abuse at the Curzon keeper can perhaps be forgiven due to their age. However, the blokes who nicked the Curzon flag at half time really should have a word with themselves. It’s a shame that the stewards didn’t seem interested when they were pointed out, despite the repeated PA announcements on the subject.
we pay a lot for these stewards now . I hope we are asking for a refund for incompetence
I’m sorry,
We all like a laugh, don’t you think the THIEF that stole the flag just hand it back ?
I know you're older and rose tinted, but away fans should never have been allowed to stand and display flags in and amongst where Altrincham fans congregate.
Swap 1 club for many in the NL and FL and that'd have been a full on fight.
Not condoning the theft but let's question why they were stood amongst our most vocal fans with 4/5th of the ground tk stand
Telford fans also chose to remain in that corner for the entire match once. I don't know, but I assume some sets of fans just can't be bothered moving round like we do - and in contrast every single Wealdstone fan moved round in the unsegregated game. I think I'm also right in saying that no significant number of F.C. United or Manchester United (XI) supporters have moved round at half time on the occasions we have played them without segregation (which of course on one occasion at least saw bloodshed).
Once again I have to ask what was going on with stewarding. If it was me, I'd have had someone on hand to do something about it if, say, a flag was nicked with the way things were last night. Maybe it's just me, but I wonder if having segregation for almost every game breeds this sort of behaviour and encourages a more confrontational attitude towards opposition supporters? I used to go to the Drill Field and Moss Rose without segregation - have things really changed that much since then? Segregation has been dropped in other sports, and I repeat I would like it to end in all football matches. For me, it's a form of discrimination and a self-defeating surrender to bad behaviour.
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Should have won 5/6-0.
The 705 ATT is a much clearer representation of where our core support is at than the 2k+ average we achieved last season. Still a National League North level fanbase when it all boils down to a ticketed Tuesday night game.
For comparison, Dagenham and Redbridge got 463 against Uxbridge (from Middlesex) according to Football Web Pages, who don't currently give any other FAT 3rd round attendances for NL teams. And Scunny are winning 0-1.
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On reflection certain things have come to the forefront of my mind.
What a horrible kit they had
I thought it was cold but as neither Colclough or hampson had gloves on it obviously wasn't
What has Dinanga done to his hair
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Why did they need two different shades of pink? And was the "salmon" actually burnt salmon?
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Not only did it look horrible it appeared it was a size too small for everyone.
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Curzon made CCC look Messi? I'm not so sure. Look at the Alty TV coverage from about 5:05. I think he genuinely was good there! I used to play fullback sometimes in kickarounds, and I would have hated trying to stop that. Also good to see Toby Mullarkey showing the sort of form that had Portsmouth interested (apart from when he nearly missed an open goal :) ).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lFetA2EEcg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lFetA2EEcg)