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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on April 25, 2007, 12:51:34 PM
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It states on John Laidlar's ever-excellent website that "Altrincham FC are hoping for a bumper gate" for the Aldershot game on Saturday......but are we honestly expecting many more than the usual suspects to turn out for this one?
It would be nice to think that we could attract over 2,000 spectators, as Tamworth did last Saturday, but the eternal pessimist in me just doesn't believe that this will happen.
Have any additional incentives been pondered over to tempt locals through the turnstiles?
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I don't think we had a big crowd against Grays(?) at the end of last season so I don't think we will this time either. I'd love to be proved wrong though.
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I don't think we had a big crowd against Grays(?) at the end of last season so I don't think we will this time either. I'd love to be proved wrong though.
Slightly different circumstances I think this time. Last year it didn't really matter what happened on the pitch as we were already mathematically safe (in theory at least).
I think we will get a decent crowd but nowhere near 2000. There is the incentive of free entry for under 14's which is good, but I really feel it would have been beneficial to offer slightly cheaper prices on the gate for adults as well. A lot of regulars would gladly use whatever money they save on the gate to either buy drinks in the bar or throw in the half time buckets. It worked for Tamworth last week and I'd like to have seen us try the same thing.
The game hasn't been as well promoted in the town as it might have been.
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Here at work, people are talking about our big game on Saturday and wishing us luck. However getting these floating punters through the turnstiles is a different kettle of fish. It’s a problem clubs such as Alty have had for years, the majority of football ‘fans’ around here would rather be a ‘Radio Red’ or follow City via Ceefax. It’s sad but true.
2000 for Saturday? I think we would do well to get that to be honest.
COME ON ALTY
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If you remember the KIddy game when we got relegated, hardly anyone turned up 7-800 , so have my doubts.
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The club should have done a two for one offer so regulars could bring a friend free., this is the best way to double the gate.
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I'm going to get on my soapbox now so I apologise in advance:
"Altrincham F.C. are hoping for a bumper crowd..."
In real terms what has actually been done to try and achieve this?
It's like me saying "I'm really hoping for a big wage packet this month" and then sitting on my arse and doing no overtime.
Fair enough, the incentive has been offered to under-14's and this is great. However, to bring in supporters other than the same old faces the game needs to be advertised outside ofthe usual media (namely the Messenger and the website). Yesterday I took the time to put together a simple poster and letter to fax to various local schools in an attempt to drum up extra support for the game. I found myself asking "why isn't this being done already?" We're our own worst enemy sometimes and all it requires is a bit of common sense. I don't mean any offence to the people who work really hard at the football club on a daily basis but simply saying "We're hoping for a big turnout" is not going to yield the required numbers when Saturday comes. Let's hope I'm wrong.
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If you remember the KIddy game when we got relegated, hardly anyone turned up 7-800 , so have my doubts.
Incorrect.
The attendance for the Alty v Kidderminster game that day was 1,761.
Admittedly, Kidderminster brought a few that day as Champions.
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If you remember the KIddy game when we got relegated, hardly anyone turned up 7-800 , so have my doubts.
Incorrect.
The attendance for the Alty v Kidderminster game that day was 1,761.
Admittedly, Kidderminster brought a few that day as Champions.
my mistake i thought it was around 1300.
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I'm going to get on my soapbox now so I apologise in advance:
"Altrincham F.C. are hoping for a bumper crowd..."
In real terms what has actually been done to try and achieve this?
It's like me saying "I'm really hoping for a big wage packet this month" and then sitting on my arse and doing no overtime.
Fair enough, the incentive has been offered to under-14's and this is great. However, to bring in supporters other than the same old faces the game needs to be advertised outside ofthe usual media (namely the Messenger and the website). Yesterday I took the time to put together a simple poster and letter to fax to various local schools in an attempt to drum up extra support for the game. I found myself asking "why isn't this being done already?" We're our own worst enemy sometimes and all it requires is a bit of common sense. I don't mean any offence to the people who work really hard at the football club on a daily basis but simply saying "We're hoping for a big turnout" is not going to yield the required numbers when Saturday comes. Let's hope I'm wrong.
Slade Green Alty,
You have hit the nail exactly on the head.
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The Messenger ARE doing some excellent publicity.
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The Messenger ARE doing some excellent publicity.
That's good to hear! The Messenger have been fantastic for a long time now and that looks set to continue for a long time to come.
I just wish we could branch out a bit as the Messenger only targets a relatively limited audience.
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The Messenger ARE doing some excellent publicity.
Gary,
The Messenger support has been consistently laudable since Mike Crockett set the ball rolling.
But, be honest, how many people do actually read that paper rather than line their budgie's cage with it?
Are we just hoping for a bigger attendance or is something being tried to create it?
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The letters page of the Messenger is an excellent read, I thoroughly recommend it.
As for promotion of the game perhaps all of the various junior football clubs that have visited over the season should have been given free tickets for Saturday's game. Similarly it may have been an idea to give free tickets to all those kids that play for the newly formed Altrincham junior teams.
Although the free entrance for U14s is laudable I can't help but think that it may have been better to extend it to U16s, the financial loss would have been minimal compared to the greater number of bodies through the turnstiles.
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Grays and Halifax both got disappointing attendances last night and i think this trend will continue on Saturday. Special offers are ok but you can't bribe people into giving their support on a long term basis. Most of the kids i have seen at recent games don't even watch the match. Television has produced a generation that never attend a live game.
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there has been no shortage of time in which to plan such initiatives. We last played at home on 9th April. that gave the club three weeks to drum up local interest in the game. As of Monday there were still no posters up at the ground advertising the fixture (!!!) and presumably nowhere else around the town either.
In short, people aren't going to attend a game they don't know about, whether you let them in for free or charge them double.
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Jimmy Hill There is no financial loss caused by letting kids in free because they would not be there if they had to pay. There is also a possibility of them spending some money inside the ground. I just hope they don't run out of programmes before i get there due to non fans buying them all. That really narks me.
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Jimmy Hill There is no financial loss caused by letting kids in free because they would not be there if they had to pay. There is also a possibility of them spending some money inside the ground. I just hope they don't run out of programmes before i get there due to non fans buying them all. That really narks me.
Well there would be a minimal loss due to those U16s that usually attend not having to pay.
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Well, it might be a bumper crowd if more people like me come down. I've not been down to Alty for a couple of years but am dead keen to come down and cheer them on to victory, and League survival, on Saturday.
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Well, it might be a bumper crowd if more people like me come down. I've not been down to Alty for a couple of years but am dead keen to come down and cheer them on to victory, and League survival, on Saturday.
Good on you mate! Try and bring a few mates along and enjoy your visit to Moss Lane!
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do you guys run under 16s get in free schemes? they can be useful however you must make sure they work though by advertising them to local schools and so on otherwise it could be a hole in mr goodwins pocket.!
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Its not our fault if not everyone reads the Messenger but at least they are helping. I spoke to Connor yesterday and what he had planned for the Messenger build up sounded pretty good to me.
And WE as fans can publicise it. We as fans can offer our services to the club to help achieve a big gate. Rather than blaming people or wonder what has been done why don't we concentrate on doing things ourselves.
I have emailed various websites\papers\radios about the offer for children and IF I lived anywhere near Alty\Sale or surrounding areas I would be asking my local shops to put posters up for me.
I have emailed the MEN but you can not guarantee that they'll put anything in. I have also tried to have it put on Ceefax (yes people still read that)
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I think we will see a bigger crowd than usual. We may not get many new fans coming but we should get just about every occassional fan turning up. I am making the long trip North for the first time since the Exiles sponsored an FA Cup game a few years back and there may be others who need to make a special effort being upfor this one.
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Talking of bumper crowds, good to see a healthy turn out at Northwich tonight - all 515 of them.
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Slade Green..I'm amazed no posters up around the ground...I'll have to have a scan at the Timperley metro noticeboard to see if a poster has gone up as it does week in week out by some hard working volunteer at the club....if not I am sure there is good reason..maybe Aldershot has been mis-spelt with an I on the posters?
In short, I'm sure the club have done what they thought they could and I'm sure the club could put forward a list of things we know not about (junior clubs alerted, free tickets given out interview with messenger etc)...asking the question what has been done and then answering it ourselves with an assumed answer "absolutly sod all" is a bit presumptuous?
Fans are rallying around telling their mates...your poster is up at Woodheys school and hopefully others are around the town now....good on you for putting your money where your mouth is incidentally.
The Mesenger will help but at the end of the day it is a struggle to get folk to come down...how many did we get to Stoke?
I'd expect a crowd of 1250 myself.
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In short, I'm sure the club have done what they thought they could and I'm sure the club could put forward a list of things we know not about (junior clubs alerted, free tickets given out interview with messenger etc)...asking the question what has been done and then answering it ourselves with an assumed answer "absolutly sod all" is a bit presumptuous?
Fans are rallying around telling their mates...your poster is up at Woodheys school and hopefully others are around the town now....good on you for putting your money where your mouth is incidentally.
The Mesenger will help but at the end of the day it is a struggle to get folk to come down...how many did we get to Stoke?
I'd expect a crowd of 1250 myself.
Would hate to see you put a long post on here :-X
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Slade Green..I'm amazed no posters up around the ground...
Not sure this has come from, when I was walking past the ground on Monday the match posters were up along with highlighting that under 14 get in free.
Me personally, without wanting to do an Accy, I still think we should walk a pig along the wall of the ground on matchdays like we used to, or deck it out in red and walk it through Alty. I'm sure a local butcher would sponsor it.
:D :D
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Someone handing out leaflets in town Saturday morning?
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ill hand them out in alty before the game
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i would hand a load out saturday morning in the town centre and leave some in shopd for people to read. 1 thing: would i have to print loads off or does someone know of anywhere tht does decent photocopying?
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Wellington School madeAN ANNOUNCEMENT TO OVER 1,000 PUPILS THIS MORNING.
Sent from the club I believe, it may help.
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Wellington School madeAN ANNOUNCEMENT TO OVER 1,000 PUPILS THIS MORNING.
Sent from the club I believe, it may help.
They were one of the schools I sent my fax to so it could be either. As long as the message got through that's all that matters.
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Well Done whoever sorted it a great initiative