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Title: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 17, 2023, 11:57:45 AM
Same starting 11, same result as saturday.

First sub on 86min
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 17, 2023, 12:00:50 PM
I, unusually for me, am somehow confident of a scrappy three points here - certainly more confident than for the Ebbsfleet game next Saturday.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on September 17, 2023, 01:35:44 PM
I, unusually for me, am somehow confident of a scrappy three points here - certainly more confident than for the Ebbsfleet game next Saturday.

Think it may be a struggle to win as the forward options are limited at the moment.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Seth on September 17, 2023, 02:28:16 PM
We will definitely struggle if we play anything like yesterday. We offered absolutely nothing going forward and only came away with a point due to their inadequate finishing
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on September 17, 2023, 07:08:50 PM
2 1  Alty win.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 17, 2023, 07:16:45 PM
Having read Askey's comments about his team's failings with high balls into the box, it's essential that we produce plenty of them. I fancy a 2-2 draw (might just have a tickle with Paddy Power).
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 17, 2023, 07:21:01 PM
Keep the same back four. I like the way Ethan talks to our back four and keeps them on their toes

I would be Happy with another point v Hartlepool

Sadly we can’t make the game.

Would be nice to see Kossy back if fit..
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Leon on September 17, 2023, 09:44:11 PM
Keep the same back four. I like the way Ethan talks to our back four and keeps them on their toes

I would be Happy with another point v Hartlepool

Sadly we can’t make the game.

Would be nice to see Kossy back if fit..

Kosylo is out injured for 2 to 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 18, 2023, 09:54:29 AM
Rotating the team so early in the season to speculatively avoid some sort of burnout further down the line has clearly backfired as half of our squad are taking enforced breaks anyway - I can't help but feel we should have another point or two on the board.

Surely the whole idea of 'using your squad' is using your subs earlier - not starting a different XI every game? Surely it's not just me?

Anyway, on to tomorrow night and I guess the team picks itself anyway. Would be good to have a couple of new faces in - I see Cody Johnson at Stockport isn't featuring, having his loan to Rochdale pulled after about five minutes (classic). Could be an option there maybe.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: erimus on September 18, 2023, 05:57:38 PM
After stating that there was no way we’d keep a clean sheet against Wealdstone I’ll go out on a limb and say that we won’t do that against Hartlepool, nor will we score 2 goals.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 18, 2023, 06:09:34 PM

Interesting that the match previewer for the Hartlepool game on the official club website seems to be under the misapprehension that Tom Jones made his debut at Wealdstone!

"Young prospect Tom Jones, stepping in for the injured Matty Kosylo, emerged as a particular bright spot in a match where clear-cut attacking opportunities were sparse for both sides."


I look forward to seeing what he can do on the green, green grass of home.

https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/hartlepool-under-the-lights-next-up-for-alty-heres-your-match-preview (https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/hartlepool-under-the-lights-next-up-for-alty-heres-your-match-preview)
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Ukrainian Alty on September 18, 2023, 07:04:29 PM

Interesting that the match previewer for the Hartlepool game on the official club website seems to be under the misapprehension that Tom Jones made his debut at Wealdstone!

"Young prospect Tom Jones, stepping in for the injured Matty Kosylo, emerged as a particular bright spot in a match where clear-cut attacking opportunities were sparse for both sides."


I look forward to seeing what he can do on the green, green grass of home.

My, my, my, I guess that it's not unusual for them to get mixed up given the number of Jones' that we have in the team.

https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/hartlepool-under-the-lights-next-up-for-alty-heres-your-match-preview (https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/hartlepool-under-the-lights-next-up-for-alty-heres-your-match-preview)
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on September 18, 2023, 07:05:18 PM
Rotating the team so early in the season to speculatively avoid some sort of burnout further down the line has clearly backfired as half of our squad are taking enforced breaks anyway - I can't help but feel we should have another point or two on the board.

Surely the whole idea of 'using your squad' is using your subs earlier - not starting a different XI every game? Surely it's not just me?

Anyway, on to tomorrow night and I guess the team picks itself anyway. Would be good to have a couple of new faces in - I see Cody Johnson at Stockport isn't featuring, having his loan to Rochdale pulled after about five minutes (classic). Could be an option there maybe.

I agree… too much tinkering and late subs, as well as the use of wrong subs at the wrong time has cost us points… However, I’m not so sure the team picks itself tomorrow, it hasn’t done all season so not sure why you think tomorrow will be any different?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 18, 2023, 07:20:57 PM
I think what he means is that given the number of players out, there are very few options left?
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 19, 2023, 08:22:48 AM
Rotating the team so early in the season to speculatively avoid some sort of burnout further down the line has clearly backfired as half of our squad are taking enforced breaks anyway - I can't help but feel we should have another point or two on the board.

Surely the whole idea of 'using your squad' is using your subs earlier - not starting a different XI every game? Surely it's not just me?

Anyway, on to tomorrow night and I guess the team picks itself anyway. Would be good to have a couple of new faces in - I see Cody Johnson at Stockport isn't featuring, having his loan to Rochdale pulled after about five minutes (classic). Could be an option there maybe.

I agree… too much tinkering and late subs, as well as the use of wrong subs at the wrong time has cost us points… However, I’m not so sure the team picks itself tomorrow, it hasn’t done all season so not sure why you think tomorrow will be any different?

...because I can't see anyone from Saturday's bench pushing for a starting spot, nobody else has returned, and nobody else has been signed.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on September 19, 2023, 09:08:54 AM
Think unless a loan signing(s), and any injuries, will have to be same starting 11.

Apparently they have  a leaky defence like ours, lets hope we exploit that tonight.

COYR
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 19, 2023, 11:38:30 AM
So it's looking like 7-3 to us tonight then? 😎 😄😄
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on September 19, 2023, 12:35:42 PM
Rotating the team so early in the season to speculatively avoid some sort of burnout further down the line has clearly backfired as half of our squad are taking enforced breaks anyway - I can't help but feel we should have another point or two on the board.

Surely the whole idea of 'using your squad' is using your subs earlier - not starting a different XI every game? Surely it's not just me?

Anyway, on to tomorrow night and I guess the team picks itself anyway. Would be good to have a couple of new faces in - I see Cody Johnson at Stockport isn't featuring, having his loan to Rochdale pulled after about five minutes (classic). Could be an option there maybe.

I agree… too much tinkering and late subs, as well as the use of wrong subs at the wrong time has cost us points… However, I’m not so sure the team picks itself tomorrow, it hasn’t done all season so not sure why you think tomorrow will be any different?

...because I can't see anyone from Saturday's bench pushing for a starting spot, nobody else has returned, and nobody else has been signed.

I can see him messing with the defence again and maybe moving players around in a different shape, possibly bringing in Roscoe & Jones… we shall see!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 19, 2023, 12:47:34 PM
Sincerely hope you're wrong. 🤞
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on September 19, 2023, 01:46:17 PM
So it's looking like 7-3 to us tonight then? 😎 😄😄

Would take that  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on September 19, 2023, 04:33:08 PM
So it's looking like 7-3 to us tonight then? 😎 😄😄

Would take that  ;D ;D ;D
Is that the water polo prediction .
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 19, 2023, 04:33:45 PM
So it's looking like 7-3 to us tonight then? 😎 😄😄

You could be half right - just not in a good way 🙄
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 19, 2023, 04:44:41 PM
So it's looking like 7-3 to us tonight then? 😎 😄😄

You could be half right - just not in a good way 🙄
6-3 you mean 🤔🇦🇹
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: JD on September 19, 2023, 08:23:46 PM
So it's looking like 7-3 to us tonight then? 😎 😄😄

Would take that  ;D ;D ;D
Is that the water polo prediction .

Last time I played water polo my horse drowned!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Wilmslow Alty on September 19, 2023, 08:53:21 PM
Lewis Baines goal was superb! 2-1 at HT. Let's hope we can go the distance. Good to see CCC looking like he's back on form - he's panicking their defenders and drew the free kick that led to the second goal.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 19, 2023, 10:08:30 PM
Hanging on at home, against a poor team is a piss take and frustrating to watch.
Parky this year is overthinking tactics. Did he not see that we were getting pinned back and should have changed the formation around 65/70 mins.
I thought we started 5 defenders and 3 CMs  to then to revert to a front 4 or at least a 3 for the last 30 or so, but we stayed with wingbacks and just hoped we could slip Amaluzor in.
Awful tactics, their defenders and midfielders were running forward metres, unchallenged, in the channels and we sat back.
They were not great at the back, you saw from the run down the line that Donawa made and set up that we should have gone to our favoured system.
Not good enough.
Joey Jones is poor, way off the pace, really don't see him as an Alty player.
How he stayed on that pitch for 90mins I do not know.
Another two points dropped. Playing that system has now resulted in 4 goals conceded in 2 games. Same system as when we went to York, but luckily we finished with wingers and Kossy saved a point.
I can't be arsed watching us sit back against average teams at home. Give it a bloody go, they were for the taking.
Get some loans in.
I amazed how Parky watched that and didn't change it.
Thank god Ethan Ross is decent and doesn't spill shots, could have easily lost that game.
Get back to two wide players, no.10 and number 9.
Angus was poor, losing Linney is killing us. He would have terrorised their defence tonight.
Need to be loaning a wide player, who has goals in him and number 9 until Christmas.
Glad Baines is back playing.
Season could easily fizzle out unless we get some more attackers in.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: GolfRoader on September 19, 2023, 10:41:32 PM
Disagree that they were there for the taking. I think they looked very dangerous going forward, quick passing, moved well and exploited the space very effectively. I think we would’ve been overrun if we’d gone to a more attacking formation. As it was, we took our goals nicely but succumbed to some very well worked attacking play.

Neither side looked particularly formidable in defence and that showed but I’m far from disappointed at picking up a point against Hartlepool, who are in the playoffs, with the injuries we have.

A Draw was a fair result for me. Again, if the aim for the season is to finish in the top half we’re going along nicely. Experiencing a dip in form but still picking up points is a significant step in the right direction in my opinion.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 19, 2023, 10:47:35 PM
Just about a fair result, although we did the better chances.

Con-Clarke was back to something like but Angus was poor, nothing stuck.

Their 18 should have been targeted more.

 
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 19, 2023, 11:21:14 PM
Hanging on at home, against a poor team is a piss take and frustrating to watch.
Parky this year is overthinking tactics. Did he not see that we were getting pinned back and should have changed the formation around 65/70 mins.
I thought we started 5 CBs and 3 CMs  to then to revert to a front 4 or at least a 3 for the last 30 or so, but we stayed with wingbacks and just hoped we could slip Amaluzor in.
Awful tactics, their defenders and midfielders were running forward metres, unchallenged, in the channels and we sat back.
They were not great at the back, you saw from the run down the line that Donawa made and set up that we should have gone to our favoured system.
Not good enough.
Joey Jones is poor, way off the pace, really don't see him as an Alty player.
How he stayed on that pitch for 90mins I do not know.
Another two points dropped. Playing that system has now resulted in 4 goals conceded in 2 games. Same system as when we went to York, but luckily we finished with wingers and Kossy saved a point.
I can't be arsed watching us sit back against average teams at home. Give it a bloody go, they were for the taking.
Get some loans in.
I amazed how Parky watched that and didn't change it.
Thank god Ethan Ross is decent and doesn't spill shots, could have easily lost that game.
Get back to two wide players, no.10 and number 9.
Angus was poor, losing Linney is killing us. He would have terrorised their defence tonight.
Need to be loaning a wide player, who has goals in him and number 9 until Christmas.
Glad Baines is back playing.
Season could easily fizzle out unless we get some more attackers in.

In fairness to Parky. He did say getting  a loan in that is ready to roll won’t be easy.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 19, 2023, 11:25:15 PM
Having read Askey's comments about his team's failings with high balls into the box, it's essential that we produce plenty of them. I fancy a 2-2 draw (might just have a tickle with Paddy Power).

Should have put more on! But £2 at 12-1 made it worthwhile 😁
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 19, 2023, 11:33:03 PM
Having read Askey's comments about his team's failings with high balls into the box, it's essential that we produce plenty of them. I fancy a 2-2 draw (might just have a tickle with Paddy Power).

Should have put more on! But £2 at 12-1 made it worthwhile 😁

Good shout Phil.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on September 20, 2023, 12:29:11 AM
Rotating the team so early in the season to speculatively avoid some sort of burnout further down the line has clearly backfired as half of our squad are taking enforced breaks anyway - I can't help but feel we should have another point or two on the board.

Surely the whole idea of 'using your squad' is using your subs earlier - not starting a different XI every game? Surely it's not just me?



Anyway, on to tomorrow night and I guess the team picks itself anyway. Would be good to have a couple of new faces in - I see Cody Johnson at Stockport isn't featuring, having his loan to Rochdale pulled after about five minutes (classic). Could be an option there maybe.

I agree… too much tinkering and late subs, as well as the use of wrong subs at the wrong time has cost us points… However, I’m not so sure the team picks itself tomorrow, it hasn’t done all season so not sure why you think tomorrow will be any different?

...because I can't see anyone from Saturday's bench pushing for a starting spot, nobody else has returned, and nobody else has been signed.

I can see him messing with the defence again and maybe moving players around in a different shape, possibly bringing in Roscoe & Jones… we shall see!

I don’t want to say I told you so… but…
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 20, 2023, 07:55:36 AM
Disagree that they were there for the taking. I think they looked very dangerous going forward, quick passing, moved well and exploited the space very effectively. I think we would’ve been overrun if we’d gone to a more attacking formation. As it was, we took our goals nicely but succumbed to some very well worked attacking play.

Neither side looked particularly formidable in defence and that showed but I’m far from disappointed at picking up a point against Hartlepool, who are in the playoffs, with the injuries we have.

A Draw was a fair result for me. Again, if the aim for the season is to finish in the top half we’re going along nicely. Experiencing a dip in form but still picking up points is a significant step in the right direction in my opinion.

They were, when we attacked, we created chances at most opportunities.

They let us worry about them, but at home we should be attacking them. They were really poor at the back and it should have been exploited.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on September 20, 2023, 08:33:17 AM
If Linney, Kossy and Justin start that game and Jones along side Baines (who had a good game last night), we win that game by at least a two goal margin. I thought they were a poor side. I was worried pre-match when I saw the team sheet. Most probably the worst lineup on paper in my Alty memory. Good to see Kricky turn up for a kick about and Ross done well again in net. Need reinforcements for Saturday as I think Ebbsfleet will be a stronger cohesive unit for us to overcome.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on September 20, 2023, 09:15:56 AM
If Linney, Kossy and Justin start that game and Jones along side Baines (who had a good game last night), we win that game by at least a two goal margin. I thought they were a poor side. I was worried pre-match when I saw the team sheet. Most probably the worst lineup on paper in my Alty memory. Good to see Kricky turn up for a kick about and Ross done well again in net. Need reinforcements for Saturday as I think Ebbsfleet will be a stronger cohesive unit for us to overcome.


"Most probably the worst lineup on paper in my Alty memory".

Really?! You must have the memory of a goldfish or journalist!

It was a bit of an odd game, draw probably about fair. Parky had to make the changes given all the injuries and previous game only on Saturday. Good to see CCC getting behind the defence again and Ethan Ross decent in goal again, also their keeper made a couple of good saves, so it could have gone either way.

Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on September 20, 2023, 09:32:55 AM
If Linney, Kossy and Justin start that game and Jones along side Baines (who had a good game last night), we win that game by at least a two goal margin. I thought they were a poor side. I was worried pre-match when I saw the team sheet. Most probably the worst lineup on paper in my Alty memory. Good to see Kricky turn up for a kick about and Ross done well again in net. Need reinforcements for Saturday as I think Ebbsfleet will be a stronger cohesive unit for us to overcome.


"Most probably the worst lineup on paper in my Alty memory".

Really?! You must have the memory of a goldfish or journalist!

It was a bit of an odd game, draw probably about fair. Parky had to make the changes given all the injuries and previous game only on Saturday. Good to see CCC getting behind the defence again and Ethan Ross decent in goal again, also their keeper made a couple of good saves, so it could have gone either way.

Let me know the last time we set up with 8 defensive players in the starting lineup… Not a journo or a Goldfish as you so elegantly put it, just a realist!

Just to add I didn’t say worst players, I said line up!
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 20, 2023, 02:44:23 PM
If Linney, Kossy and Justin start that game and Jones along side Baines (who had a good game last night), we win that game by at least a two goal margin. I thought they were a poor side. I was worried pre-match when I saw the team sheet. Most probably the worst lineup on paper in my Alty memory. Good to see Kricky turn up for a kick about and Ross done well again in net. Need reinforcements for Saturday as I think Ebbsfleet will be a stronger cohesive unit for us to overcome.


"Most probably the worst lineup on paper in my Alty memory".

Really?! You must have the memory of a goldfish or journalist!

It was a bit of an odd game, draw probably about fair. Parky had to make the changes given all the injuries and previous game only on Saturday. Good to see CCC getting behind the defence again and Ethan Ross decent in goal again, also their keeper made a couple of good saves, so it could have gone either way.

Let me know the last time we set up with 8 defensive players in the starting lineup… Not a journo or a Goldfish as you so elegantly put it, just a realist!

Just to add I didn’t say worst players, I said line up!

Correct. Easily the worst line-up under Parky and Neil.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 20, 2023, 04:34:41 PM
Just watched the highlights. Poor goals to concede.
Who out of the 3 CBs and 3CMs was marking the guy, who slipped the ball in for their second goal...?
And Joey Jones was as bad as I thought he was last night.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on September 20, 2023, 04:58:03 PM
Cannot even watch Parky's video or the match highlights, getting video unavailable on my laptop and phone.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on September 20, 2023, 05:50:39 PM
So it's looking like 7-3 to us tonight then? 😎 😄😄

Would take that  ;D ;D ;D
Is that the water polo prediction .

Last time I played water polo my horse drowned!
Was expecting that , fair play 😀
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 20, 2023, 06:17:04 PM
Cannot even watch Parky's video or the match highlights, getting video unavailable on my laptop and phone.

Is that a bad thing? 🤔🙄
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 22, 2023, 06:49:11 PM

I received the following message from a Hartlepool supporter this morning:

"We've now played 27 games since our last clean sheet at Doncaster in February, and we're closing in on our club record of 31, set in the 1927/28 season when the change in the offside law led to a nationwide glut of goals."

Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 22, 2023, 06:59:51 PM

I received the following message from a Hartlepool supporter this morning:

"We've now played 27 games since our last clean sheet at Doncaster in February, and we're closing in on our club record of 31, set in the 1927/28 season when the change in the offside law led to a nationwide glut of goals."

If it hadn't been for the Wealdstone game we'd surely have beaten that wouldn't we? 🤔🙄😄
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: MadFrankie on September 23, 2023, 09:04:11 AM

If it hadn't been for the Wealdstone game we'd surely have beaten that wouldn't we? 🤔🙄😄
Surprisingly we’d only gone 16 without a clean sheet since a 1-0 vs Southend on March 25th.
Title: Re: Hartlepool Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 23, 2023, 11:45:49 AM

If it hadn't been for the Wealdstone game we'd surely have beaten that wouldn't we? 🤔🙄😄
Surprisingly we’d only gone 16 without a clean sheet since a 1-0 vs Southend on March 25th.

Thanks for that Frankie. Who says we won't make the play offs?! 😄👍