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Title: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Is this it? on March 28, 2016, 06:24:44 PM
I expect I am not alone in noticing the group of 10 or so 11/12 year olds who stayed at the away end to offer abuse to the Southport fans at the start of the second half.  A couple of the knobs were sporting Stone Island and clearly thought that they offered some sort of threat.  They got shepherded by one(!) of our stewards back to the Golf Road end where they were kept an eye on.  However, as I was driving away at the end of the match, they had congregated on the grass outside the shops and were gesturing towards the away support; a couple of police cars had parked either side of the supporters coach as well.

I have no idea whether there was any nonsense, but the possibility of Alty finding itself with a group of pre-pubescent pretend hooligans is, frankly, depressing.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Stan Hibbert on March 28, 2016, 06:32:33 PM
Not sure if they are the same kids but there were a few black hoodie/cap wearing kids at Halifax on Saturday.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Is this it? on March 28, 2016, 06:35:55 PM
Yes, I saw them too.  They may have been the same lot, but there were a few more of them today (obviously, given that it was at home).
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Hulme Robin on March 28, 2016, 06:38:20 PM
so these 10 or 11 year olds are knobs are they?

Why don't you go and have word with them if they are so offensive to you?
- rather than whinge behind your keyboard.

Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Is this it? on March 28, 2016, 06:45:22 PM
so these 10 or 11 year olds are knobs are they?   Seemed to be acting like knobs so, 'yes'.

Why don't you go and have word with them if they are so offensive to you?  Who's to say I won't?  Not you.
- rather than whinge behind your keyboard....and you are doing what exactly?

When you have a point to make, let me know.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Jimmy on March 28, 2016, 07:09:26 PM
We are going to get relegated,we have a chairman who couldn't give a f**k hence his appointment of Tolson and your more worried by youngsters putting v's up at the away fans
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Bath Alty on March 28, 2016, 07:10:45 PM
and we have forum members who spout utter sh*te like that!

ie the chairman bit - the relegated bit is entirely possible
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: andrewflynn on March 28, 2016, 07:14:47 PM
They're kids. They know no better. They aren't a big deal and quite frankly we should all be concerned about other things. Grow a pair.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Jimmy on March 28, 2016, 07:20:06 PM
and we have forum members who spout utter sh*te like that!

ie the chairman bit - the relegated bit is entirely possible
its spot on mate it isn't utter sh*t
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: wayno on March 28, 2016, 07:21:04 PM
We love washing our laundry in public don't we they are kids
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: taxi Phil on March 28, 2016, 07:28:24 PM
We love washing our laundry in public don't we they are kids

They'll turn out like the Haribo Kids at Colwyn Bay if we're not careful. Best bet would be for a proper team of thugs from one of the bigger clubs to give them a good hiding.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: andrewflynn on March 28, 2016, 07:31:48 PM
We love washing our laundry in public don't we they are kids

They'll turn out like the Haribo Kids at Colwyn Bay if we're not careful. Best bet would be for a proper team of thugs from one of the bigger clubs to give them a good hiding.

They were literally about 12-13 years old. They need a bit of a scare, but a good hiding? Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Timperley The Best on March 28, 2016, 07:32:24 PM
 Ithink macc idiots came close to giving them a hiding the other week  if it was the same kids.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Bath Alty on March 28, 2016, 07:33:57 PM
and we have forum members who spout utter sh*te like that!

ie the chairman bit - the relegated bit is entirely possible
its spot on mate it isn't utter sh*t

You seriously think the man gives up all his time for a club that he doesn't care about and he appointed Tolson because he couldn't be bothered to find anyone else.  Do you really believe that, honestly?    
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Jimmy on March 28, 2016, 07:38:11 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Hulme Robin on March 28, 2016, 07:38:59 PM
so these 10 or 11 year olds are knobs are they?   Seemed to be acting like knobs so, 'yes'.

Why don't you go and have word with them if they are so offensive to you?  Who's to say I won't?  Not you.
- rather than whinge behind your keyboard....and you are doing what exactly?

When you have a point to make, let me know.
When you have a point to make - keep it to yourself.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Jimmy on March 28, 2016, 07:39:44 PM
Ithink macc idiots came close to giving them a hiding the other week  if it was the same kids.
that is not the case what I heard other way around
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: whiskyalty on March 28, 2016, 07:42:29 PM
It needs our own fans to have a word before it does get out off hand.there are two sections of new fans the young ones you are talking about .but there is also a group of 15/18 year olds who were going to cause trouble at away end after game that is why police and stewards were there.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Bath Alty on March 28, 2016, 07:45:14 PM
and we have forum members who spout utter sh*te like that!

ie the chairman bit - the relegated bit is entirely possible
its spot on mate it isn't utter sh*t

You seriously think the man gives up all his time for a club that he doesn't care about and he appointed Tolson because he couldn't be bothered to find anyone else.  Do you really believe that, honestly?    

You do?  Why would any sane human being do that?  If he didn't care, he wouldn't be giving up so much of his time would he, he'd have resigned and buggered off - it's not like he's making any money out of it is it?
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: wayno on March 28, 2016, 07:47:02 PM
Yes
I have to agree we took the easy option no doubt in that
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 28, 2016, 07:50:33 PM
and we have forum members who spout utter sh*te like that!

ie the chairman bit - the relegated bit is entirely possible
its spot on mate it isn't utter sh*t

You seriously think the man gives up all his time for a club that he doesn't care about and he appointed Tolson because he couldn't be bothered to find anyone else.  Do you really believe that, honestly?    



I wouldn't call the chairman's work ethic into question but I'm afraid that his swift and bewildering promotion of Tolson looks like sheer cronyism in action to me.

 
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: wayno on March 28, 2016, 07:51:23 PM
It needs our own fans to have a word before it does get out off hand.there are two sections of new fans the young ones you are talking about .but there is also a group of 15/18 year olds who were going to cause trouble at away end after game that is why police and stewards were there.
if they are committing offences then as you say report this the police or stewards otherwise this is all a bit embarrassing
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Timperley The Best on March 28, 2016, 07:51:37 PM
Ithink macc idiots came close to giving them a hiding the other week  if it was the same kids.
that is not the case what I heard other way around


 When I drove past after the game the police had truncheons out on the macc fans trying to  keep them away from alty kids
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: andrewflynn on March 28, 2016, 07:53:10 PM
Some people on here must have lived very, very sheltered lives.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: wayno on March 28, 2016, 07:54:08 PM
Some people on here must have lived very, very sheltered lives.
lol agreed if this was 89 I would have been beaten to death by my own air horn ha ha
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: wayno on March 28, 2016, 07:58:40 PM
This thread has reminded me of the great John king being asked once .. John there is a lot of swearing on the terraces and dug out what are you going to do about it ?

f**k all next next question

Ha ha legend he was
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Bath Alty on March 28, 2016, 08:11:50 PM
and we have forum members who spout utter sh*te like that!

ie the chairman bit - the relegated bit is entirely possible
its spot on mate it isn't utter sh*t

You seriously think the man gives up all his time for a club that he doesn't care about and he appointed Tolson because he couldn't be bothered to find anyone else.  Do you really believe that, honestly?    



I wouldn't call the chairman's work ethic into question but I'm afraid that his swift and bewildering promotion of Tolson looks like sheer cronyism in action to me.

 


I wasn't trying to defend the appointment I was originally pointing out that suggesting "the chairman doesn't care" was talking utter sh*te and I stand by my assertion that no sane person can genuinely believe he doesn't care.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Jimmy on March 28, 2016, 08:18:59 PM
Well get me sectioned Bath Alty
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: whiskyalty on March 28, 2016, 08:20:34 PM
Wayno not embarrassing at all as I am a steward who was asked to see what the older section off these lads were up to I then informed safety officer off the problem which was going to occur at end of match . One day it will kick off at the ground. With these lads if you want to.
Have a word with me at any you know me Phil. Boyne
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: wayno on March 28, 2016, 08:32:07 PM
Wayno not embarrassing at all as I am a steward who was asked to see what the older section off these lads were up to I then informed safety officer off the problem which was going to occur at end of match . One day it will kick off at the ground. With these lads if you want to.
Have a word with me at any you know me Phil. Boyne
well if you have reported them mate then it sounds like you have done the right thing. I just think things like this are best dealt with that way confidentially rather than drag the name of the club into it
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Jimmy Hill on March 28, 2016, 11:26:55 PM
About time we had a proper firm. The one bright spot in an otherwise rather dour season.  8)
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Mallorca Alty on March 29, 2016, 07:00:56 AM
We love washing our laundry in public don't we they are kids

They'll turn out like the Haribo Kids at Colwyn Bay if we're not careful. Best bet would be for a proper team of thugs from one of the bigger clubs to give them a good hiding.
Get Trucker to scare them like he scared the Haribo kids at Colwyn Bay.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: RedhillAlty on March 29, 2016, 09:19:19 AM
I think some idiot has been listening to the stories of the 1970's without realising that society has moved on.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: andrewflynn on March 29, 2016, 04:57:15 PM
I think some idiot has been listening to the stories of the 1970's without realising that society has moved on.

Society has moved on in some respects but football, especially at this level, remains a working class pass time. You can't expect pampered posh kids to turn up at Moss Lane, but while we're on the subject I'd like to point out that there are hundreds of youngsters at the games who are as sound as anything. I'd say it's the main reason for the attendance increases and it's a testament to the youth work the club are doing in the community. It isn't, as you'd probably expect given the talk on here, a mass invasion of yobs. Then again things only get put on here if it's worth a bit of a moan.

There are going to be a few little muppets. They'll grow out of it and hopefully they'll become part of the hardcore support. That's how it works at every club in this league, literally every single one has a group of kids that tries winding you up. Not once have any of us felt the need to come on here and have a moan about it, because they're kids and that's that. Some of our fans are so wrapped up in cotton wool.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: bighairedmike on March 29, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
I bet you support mob culture that green street has encouraged. Posting from behind a username, very big of you.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: andrewflynn on March 29, 2016, 05:27:18 PM
I bet you support mob culture that green street has encouraged. Posting from behind a username, very big of you.

Mine is better than yours though.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on March 29, 2016, 05:34:24 PM
I think pseudonyms are offensive and have no place on this forum.

Regards,

Paul.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Jimmy on March 29, 2016, 05:37:00 PM
I'm not sure Iv been an away match where youngsters haven't gave you a f**k off sign when they have took the lead
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: GB Alty on March 29, 2016, 07:11:31 PM
I'm not sure Iv been an away match where youngsters haven't gave you a f**k off sign when they have took the lead
you will go to plenty next season
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: Jimmy on March 29, 2016, 07:26:52 PM
I won't as I won't be able to as I live to far away to go northern Leauge away matches
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: blackpoolalty on March 29, 2016, 07:41:30 PM
One from the same group lobbed an empty Pepsi can on the pitch into the away goal mouth a few home games back, keeper lobbed it back to side. I went down and had a quiet word and basically said look lads that isn't acceptable. I would say this is a bit more serious than flicking v's at away supporters. If an injury was to become from such a stupid act it could cost the club some serious £££
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: whiskyalty on March 29, 2016, 08:22:56 PM
Well said Blackpool alty our fans seem to forget about the fines the club can get from theses idiots.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: bighairedmike on March 29, 2016, 08:27:53 PM
One from the same group lobbed an empty Pepsi can on the pitch into the away goal mouth a few home games back, keeper lobbed it back to side. I went down and had a quiet word and basically said look lads that isn't acceptable. I would say this is a bit more serious than flicking v's at away supporters. If an injury was to become from such a stupid act it could cost the club some serious £££

I'm with you on that. Because that's not acceptable. Some idiot (and I don't think he was art of this group, he looked about 15-16) was throwing mini-eggs in the golf road end against Aldershot. I don't know whether he was aiming at home fans or the away keeper but a quiet word and looking mildly intimidating soon stopped it.

I'm with Crowthers Immune System on this one. Kids will be kids and as long as it's just hand gestures and a few verbals it's fine. People moan that crowds are dwindling and we don't see a return for the effort put into publicity. The fact is, at this stage it's mainly going to be the youth that are attracted to Moss Lane.  They'll grow out of it.  
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: andrewflynn on March 29, 2016, 09:35:18 PM
There are dozens of us willing to have a word with them in instances like that, myself included because its not on and I definitely agree with your concerns there. You'll just find that kids are generally like that these days, especially when they're out as a group like that. So for all we've wanted them to start coming through the turnstiles, we have to afford them the opportunity to be kids and let them make those mistakes.

I've seen Stuart Coburn nearly have his head taken off by a bottle of coke at Wrexham. I've seen coins lobbed at our players once or twice. That last thing I want is for people to think I'm advocating that sort of behaviour, I just think we're experiencing something that's probably within the norms of football at this level and its really, really not worth almost four pages of forum discussion given the current circumstances we're in.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: alty.fc on March 29, 2016, 09:49:27 PM
The throwing of mini eggs is disgusting and willful

I could have eaten them
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: shelmers on March 29, 2016, 11:06:35 PM
These young kids are the future of Alty and their support. We should be thankful that they are turning up to the games. Every club has kids like these on a lot worse scale. Think we need to concentrate on trying to stay in this league rather than a pointless topic. Got bigger worries than a few kids messing about at games!
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: RedhillAlty on March 30, 2016, 11:06:20 AM
These young kids are the future of Alty and their support. We should be thankful that they are turning up to the games. Every club has kids like these on a lot worse scale. Think we need to concentrate on trying to stay in this league rather than a pointless topic. Got bigger worries than a few kids messing about at games!
Spot on. There are more important Alty things to worry about at the present time than recent issues such as youthful exuberance or scousers getting wet.
Title: Re: Alty youth 'firm'
Post by: altrincham on March 30, 2016, 06:04:56 PM
Razors Razors Razors!!!