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Re: Bromley Match Thread
« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2023, 10:44:28 PM »

Sheesh, didn’t enjoy that. I too thought Osbourne was one of the better players tonight but not much else to encourage the 1400 odd Alty fans. Thought welch hayes had his worst game since arriving

I do seem to be witnessing a few goals conceded where Ollie Byrne seems rooted to the spot.

Linney showed some promise. I hope he gets a run in the side.

0 from 12 last 4 games. Hardly play off material. Worried we’ll get sucked into a full-on relegation battle.

Maybe in the minority but I am not 100% sure on our RB. Decent player and not too bothered about him...yet, but just have this feeling about him.
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Re: Bromley Match Thread
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2023, 10:48:49 PM »

Looked a lot better when Pringle and Linney came on.

Can't believe people are slating Osbourne, thought he was our 2nd best player behind Marriott.

Welsh-Hayes had a poor game by his standards, but the real issue is Byrne. I believe we've invested heavy in him but he looks shot.

Going to be a long hard 2-3 weeks

 
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Re: Bromley Match Thread
« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2023, 10:49:56 PM »

The problem with Welch-hayes imho is that he's okay but we've had two or three much better in the not too distant past in Mullarkey, Perritt, Senior and, of course, Shaun Densmore to name a few and perhaps we're used to better.
Wide men tracking back to help is useful but we don't have that either.
Give him time to settle and I'm sure he'll be fine.
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Re: Bromley Match Thread
« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2023, 10:52:28 PM »

WH was much better when Pringle came on and so was Osborne. He helped raise their games considerably. MOTM Cashman was completely anonymous throughout.

I do agree that Linney looked very sharp.

The really frustrating thing is that successful players we have had over the past 12 months are not even getting a kick at their clubs; Perritt, Ferguson, Mooney etc and all would improve us.
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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2023, 10:55:21 PM »

Looked a lot better when Pringle and Linney came on.

Can't believe people are slating Osbourne, thought he was our 2nd best player behind Marriott.

Welsh-Hayes had a poor game by his standards, but the real issue is Byrne. I believe we've invested heavy in him but he looks shot.

Going to be a long hard 2-3 weeks

A lot of people saying Osborne played well mate, me included but we need to accept he ain't the answer in any position with how we play.

Ain't a winger and isn't good enough as no.10. That's the harsh reality. Tonight was an example of him playing well, but doing nowt to create chances.

When Con-Clarke played well as no.10, we all knew about it. Would like to see our record with Osborne starting this season.

Not slating him tonight but he is not or never will be our answer to LW or No.10. Rather see Pringle or even the United youngster.
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« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2023, 11:07:37 PM »

Think this was the game that tipped the scales for me on Byrne. He's clearly rooted to his line 90% of the time and that's a problem. On top of that his distribution tonight was very poor at times, and not just the poor pass which led to their 2nd goal. He's often too quick to get things going, throwing or passing the ball to players in a poor position. When he doesn't have shots to save, which he didn't tonight, it further exposes some of the flaws in his game. What's the deal with GK coaching? Do we have a specialist? He looks like he severely needs it.
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« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2023, 11:13:36 PM »

Think this was the game that tipped the scales for me on Byrne. He's clearly rooted to his line 90% of the time and that's a problem. On top of that his distribution tonight was very poor at times, and not just the poor pass which led to their 2nd goal. He's often too quick to get things going, throwing or passing the ball to players in a poor position. When he doesn't have shots to save, which he didn't tonight, it further exposes some of the flaws in his game. What's the deal with GK coaching? Do we have a specialist? He looks like he severely needs it.

I was saying this tonight. What is he being coached?

He will need to start coming for a few to gain that confidence. I think we all accept there will be mistakes along the way, but give it a try lad.

Can't be much worst than being rooted and conceding without trying.

I previously mentioned it being a mental block, he needs some guidance, support and being told to give it a bloody go and be confident.
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« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2023, 11:31:34 PM »

As depressing as it is predictable - knew that was a goal as soon as the soft free kick was awarded.

This is going to be a dreadful hour or so of football.

Cashman has been atrocious.

Him and Osborne off; Oyedele and Linney on (assuming the latter has actually made it to the ground).

Couldn’t agree with this more… Hulme should never be starting in front of Linney… shoukd have postponed the kickoff!!!
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« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2023, 12:23:20 AM »

Looked a lot better when Pringle and Linney came on.

Can't believe people are slating Osbourne, thought he was our 2nd best player behind Marriott.

Welsh-Hayes had a poor game by his standards, but the real issue is Byrne. I believe we've invested heavy in him but he looks shot.

Going to be a long hard 2-3 weeks

Fair assessment. Bromley were a functional outfit, think a slightly worse version of Boreham Wood. Woking will be a much better version on Saturday. Against these physical London outfits it seems we can’t compete & continue to leak two goals a game as standard. Beginning to reach a bit of a tipping point with Byrne, half of the league is all about set pieces & he seems unable or unwilling to claim balls into our box. Second half we gave it a right good go & Linney showed a lot of promise & Pringle showed his typical class on the ball but overall with 2-0 at HT we gave ourselves too much to do. Lovely tribute before KO from Bill for John King too.
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« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2023, 12:57:54 AM »

I'm afraid Byrne shows yet again the tendency of goalkeepers who've been coached at U18 and U21 by the big clubs to be poor at commanding their penalty areas. There are times when he reminds me of the appalling Andrew Dawber in that respect - and HE was an U21 at Fulham.
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« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2023, 02:08:28 AM »



That's four consecutive league defeats now and it's becoming increasingly difficult to pinpoint exactly where our next win is going to come from.

For a start, we hardly ever manage to keep a clean sheet in league fixtures (merely three achieved in 30 matches to date and, ironically, one of those was when Jordan Hulme was in goal for over half an hour), all of which means that we need to score at least two goals to win a game.

Plus we are both ridiculously and regularly vulnerable and porous at set-pieces and misgivings about our goalkeeper in such situations continue to grow.

I couldn't believe our naive defending for Bromley's second goal, when the dangerous Omar Sowunmi (who, incidentally, scored against us with a header from a set-piece at the JDS last season) was allowed an unmarked 20-yard trot into the penalty area on his route to winning that key header from a corner.

Plenty of huff and puff after we had pulled a goal back but it was all rather devoid of quality, with the sole exception of that delightful through ball to Linney which was executed by Pringle. Surely, he must get the nod over the utterly ineffective Cashman for the Woking fixture on Saturday?

It's all getting rather concerning.

Lovely words from Bill Waterson in his heartfelt tribute to John King, by the way. 

   
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« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2023, 06:48:22 AM »

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« Reply #57 on: February 15, 2023, 08:19:48 AM »

September part 2.

I didn't go the game after getting a throat infection on the last train out of Saigon on Saturday.

But 2-0, 2-1 back huff and puff. Sounds oh so familiar.

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« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2023, 08:38:31 AM »

Looked a lot better when Pringle and Linney came on.

Can't believe people are slating Osbourne, thought he was our 2nd best player behind Marriott.

Welsh-Hayes had a poor game by his standards, but the real issue is Byrne. I believe we've invested heavy in him but he looks shot.

Going to be a long hard 2-3 weeks

Did we? I thought we got him for free hence the issuenin August.

This is the problem (and theres problems having 2 keepers in reduced quality) of 1 GK
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« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2023, 08:52:39 AM »

Bromley have lost one league game since mid November. While it was our best chance for three points on this hellish run, it was always going to be a battle and I think in the end we looked exactly what we are - a side gelling in the final third with serious inconsistencies at the back. Same story all season, after Torquay I described it as a

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And, to be fair, that side at Torquay would have been mullered at Chesterfield and by Wrexham recently. So we’re clearly moving in the right direction, but how can we go from those performances to the two gifts we gave Bromley in the first half. Completely killed us.

Welch-Hayes came here after no football in a long time and has played every minute since his debut. Worth bearing that in mind.

The playoffs were never on. We were in an inflated position due to other teams’ players becoming our stars and it was never sustainable I’m afraid. We’re not a million miles away from the top sides in this league but we’re playing them at the worst possible time. Do think we’ve got to grin and bear it a bit before it gets better. Woking play a very intensive press and I don’t see how we cope.


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