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Title: An Apology
Post by: joe on February 04, 2007, 11:14:36 AM
Now I have calmed down I would like to apologise to everyone for my unacceptable behaviour at the end of yesterdays game.

Whilst the Southport keeper should not have been using foul and abusive language and gesturing towards us their is absolutely no excuse for the way I reacted.

I am very sorry.

Martin jordan
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on February 04, 2007, 01:24:23 PM
Add me to that list aswell, all that sea air and a few to many prematch drinks lead to clouded judgement upon the fulltime whistle, its not big nor clever and Im old enough to know better, sorry again to one and all, see you all at crawley on the 17th.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: altrincham on February 04, 2007, 04:02:36 PM
Lads its football these things happen.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on February 04, 2007, 05:14:39 PM
big of them to come on and appologise, i don't feel they need to well, meby joe just a little;) i'm going to amsterdam next week i'll send your regards to the other windmills! passions run high when your survival is on the line.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: robininstockport on February 04, 2007, 05:56:04 PM
Totally agree, to come on and appologise is fair enough and let a line be drawn under it.

longsdenjr if your going to Amsterdam could please return the two ping-pong balls I aquired from a bar.
 
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: gazwarrington on February 04, 2007, 07:16:51 PM
Right, I fully expect this to fall on deaf ears and thats fair enough.

I am embarrassed and upset with myself for going onto the pitch after the game, whether it was to see the players or not its unacceptable and not something I would do at Moss Lane (Unless we stayed up on the last day of the season) so not something I should do at another clubs ground.

I have also had a few texts today about the 'spitting incident' I can honestly say with my hand on heart that I DID NOT attempt to spit at the Southport keeper, this is not something I have ever liked anyone else doing so is not something I would do myself. IF I did spit then it would have been to clear my throat to shout at the keeper, which I also should not have done or because I was mumbling so much that it came out as I was on a rant.

In summary I will be staying away from Altrincham matches until I can sort out my over excitment that I get at matches. Believe it or not I am actually a nice chap away from the 90mins of football and this is something I need to sort out and the only way I can do this is by making myself stop doing something I love to bits plus I am embarrassed about going on the pitch and the way I shout at players and other fans.

When I do return to Altrincham matches I will be not be having alcohol before the matches and will stand quietly *barr singing* from perimeter fencing. I will learn to engage brain and think of others around me before going on random rants.

So to end it all I'm sorry.

and for the record I thought the Southport stewards were excellent as always and were very banterish during and after the match. Like our stewards they did not over react and were a credit, unlike myself who was a t*sser
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: AltySi on February 04, 2007, 07:32:43 PM
I was at Southport yesterday and witnessed the incidents at the final whistle. I think frustration, passion and alochol were the main reasons for peoples reactions, not helped by Harrison's incitement.

I was out in Manchester with Gaz last night and as I said to him last night, "You're a really nice guy away from football and a good laugh, but you can be a bit of a w***ker at games sometimes"

Nobody can say that Gaz doesn't care, he loves Alty and does a hell of a lot of good things, but sometimes the red mist comes down as I know all to well, after all I've done a few things I'm not proud of in my time.

Lets draw a line under all of this and move on to next Saturday where we need to be right behind the lads once again !!
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Altysmiffy on February 04, 2007, 11:08:00 PM
Right, I fully expect this to fall on deaf ears and thats fair enough.

I am embarrassed and upset with myself for going onto the pitch after the game, whether it was to see the players or not its unacceptable and not something I would do at Moss Lane (Unless we stayed up on the last day of the season) so not something I should do at another clubs ground.

I have also had a few texts today about the 'spitting incident' I can honestly say with my hand on heart that I DID NOT attempt to spit at the Southport keeper, this is not something I have ever liked anyone else doing so is not something I would do myself. IF I did spit then it would have been to clear my throat to shout at the keeper, which I also should not have done or because I was mumbling so much that it came out as I was on a rant.

In summary I will be staying away from Altrincham matches until I can sort out my over excitment that I get at matches. Believe it or not I am actually a nice chap away from the 90mins of football and this is something I need to sort out and the only way I can do this is by making myself stop doing something I love to bits plus I am embarrassed about going on the pitch and the way I shout at players and other fans.

When I do return to Altrincham matches I will be not be having alcohol before the matches and will stand quietly *barr singing* from perimeter fencing. I will learn to engage brain and think of others around me before going on random rants.

So to end it all I'm sorry.

and for the record I thought the Southport stewards were excellent as always and were very banterish during and after the match. Like our stewards they did not over react and were a credit, unlike myself who was a t*sser


If memory serves, you were one of 2 who made the futile run up towards the Kiddie fans at the Chequers end the day we were relegated from the conference last. Like I say, it was futile, but one of the most stirring & touching things I have seen at a football match.
Obviously, there has to be a line drawn somewhere where behaviour is concerned, but the passion involved in an action like that is very touching and it is always great to see the passion Alty fans have.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on February 05, 2007, 12:35:03 AM

If memory serves, you were one of 2 who made the futile run up towards the Kiddie fans at the Chequers end the day we were relegated from the conference last. Like I say, it was futile, but one of the most stirring & touching things I have seen at a football match.
Obviously, there has to be a line drawn somewhere where behaviour is concerned, but the passion involved in an action like that is very touching and it is always great to see the passion Alty fans have.

Ah, but would it have been "stirring and touching" if a couple of Kidderminster supporters had adopted a similar run towards the Alty end?

Passion for your team is fine but running onto the pitch is not on.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on February 05, 2007, 04:18:23 AM
longsdenjr if your going to Amsterdam could please return the two ping-pong balls I aquired from a bar.

appologies i cannot as i am about to leave but i will add to this number if the chance so arrises! ;)
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: gazwarrington on February 05, 2007, 08:40:22 AM
Ah, but would it have been "stirring and touching" if a couple of Kidderminster supporters had adopted a similar run towards the Alty end?

Passion for your team is fine but running onto the pitch is not on.


This was from a while a go now and was infact when about 100 alty fans (if not more) had gone on the pitch at the end of the game, season and Conference football (for a while) and I'm sorry but the day was not the best of my life and when you have a couple of kiddy fans shouting "Going down", "never play you again" "lets all laugh at Alty" RATHER than celebrate the fact their club has just won promotion then yes I'm going to get a little annoyed.

And if it gets brought up I went on the pitch last season after a game when we had enough points to stay up (ignoring the deduction) to hug Geoff Goodwin as he came over to clap us, and for that I apologise also.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Jenga on February 05, 2007, 08:48:47 AM
to hug Geoff Goodwin as he came over to clap us, and for that I apologise also.


And so you should be sorry, hugging goes waaaayyy beyond male bonding I think Zoe needs to search her sole if you do things like this.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: thegazelle on February 05, 2007, 02:31:21 PM
As one who over the years has had a few embarrassing "passion led " incidents at football matches i would urge you, gary, to continue going to the matches. One small pitch invasion doesnt make you a bad person and even if you were going to attack the keeper you showed the sense not to actually attack him.

My vote says keep on going, the club needs all he support we can get and maybe just maybe (and this is weird advice coming from me ) cut down on the pop before the game and see how reasonable and even minded you become.

however none of this advice should apply to the northwich game and my offer of a pint for all at 11.00am in th erailway is back on
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: tonybrads on February 05, 2007, 04:22:21 PM
gary dont stay away we need your support. you said sorry that should be a end to it. so come to the games but dont have a drink see how that goes.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Stockportalty on February 05, 2007, 08:14:40 PM
Just wanted to say well done to you all for publicly apologising, it takes guts to admit you were wrong, especially in front of your mates. We all make mistakes, we just have to learn from them. Gary, we all know you are a nice guy apart from when the game is on,  I appreciate what you are saying and it's good that you want to deal with it. Good Luck and hope to see you very soon at Moss Lane. I'm not convinced that staying away is the best solution.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: FCUM on February 05, 2007, 09:09:03 PM
Ho ho ho.  Glass houses, stones and all that! ::)

Fair play and coming out with the apologies though. 
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: robininstockport on February 05, 2007, 09:11:42 PM
I totally agree with stockportalty, only proper men apologise and hope to see at ML on s Saturday with a bucket in your hands at half time.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: gazwarrington on February 05, 2007, 10:03:44 PM
Thank you.   Still not sure but we shall see.

If I am there I will be the 'improved Gary' that WILL think of others around me (I'm sure my mates will give me an evil eye if I get too emotional).

All I ask is that no one doubts that I love this football club to bits if I'm not.

 
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SW on February 05, 2007, 10:22:10 PM
GW see other post.  ;D
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Jezza on February 06, 2007, 04:18:29 AM

Hope GW keeps coming..he's part of the fixures and fittings.

It's all a misunderstanding Gary..like that time you went to tell that liner who had sent off Colin Little that his shoe lace was undone and he panicked and flagged like a wuss thinking you were going to garrott him with cheesewire or something.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Altyant on February 06, 2007, 07:45:35 PM
Ho ho ho.  Glass houses, stones and all that! ::)

Fair play and coming out with the apologies though. 

Wasnt quite like hitting kids though was it?!!  ::)
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Jacko on February 06, 2007, 08:22:14 PM
Your not a hooligan mate, stay strong ;)
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: lukealty12 on February 06, 2007, 09:02:11 PM
the fcum fan cant say anything there the ones who take pre season friendlys deadly serious. ooh we acctuly geting beat by a team whos players dont all play in the sunday league.ooh lets start a fight.---- Anyway from what i saw on sat  nothing happend that was that serious is it not allowed to have passion in football anymore :-\
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: FCUM on February 08, 2007, 02:44:00 PM
the fcum fan cant say anything there the ones who take pre season friendlys deadly serious. ooh we acctuly geting beat by a team whos players dont all play in the sunday league.ooh lets start a fight.---- Anyway from what i saw on sat  nothing happend that was that serious is it not allowed to have passion in football anymore :-\

So you didn't go to the game then?  Our reserves played your reserves off the pitch in the first half!  In terms of starting a fight - it was one bloke and we banned him.  He tried to argue he was showing passion also.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: FCUM on February 08, 2007, 02:57:00 PM
Ho ho ho.  Glass houses, stones and all that! ::)

Fair play and coming out with the apologies though. 

Wasnt quite like hitting kids though was it?!!  ::)

We banned him - unfortunately the death penalty was officially banned on 7th January 1999 so we couldn't take further action.  In fairness, people like Ricky Skelton shouldn't be at football in the first place and although GW can be a vicious bugger (having played footy against him) I've also been lurking around these forums long enough to know that he isn't someone who actively goes looking for trouble a la Ricky Skelton.

Of course, I could read the Alty FC fans handbook, Chapter 3, Verse 1 that states, "If a supporter of an opposing team behaves in an unacceptable manner, you must tar all other supporters of the same club with the same brush.  You must then attempt to whip up some mass hysteria based on hearsay and half-truths on all non-league forums you visit (i.e Unemployed Coalminer)".

Nah, let's just get on with the football.... carry on.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: altrincham on February 08, 2007, 03:00:47 PM
why you on this board you muppet
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Jimmy Hill on February 08, 2007, 03:12:04 PM
Of course, I could read the Alty FC fans handbook, Chapter 3, Verse 1 that states, "If a supporter of an opposing team behaves in an unacceptable manner, you must tar all other supporters of the same club with the same brush.  You must then attempt to whip up some mass hysteria based on hearsay and half-truths on all non-league forums you visit (i.e Unemployed Coalminer)".

Nah, let's just get on with the football.... carry on.

Er, in you suggesting that Alty fans tar all other supporters of another club with the same brush, I think you will find you have committed the same 'crime' as those you are arguing against.

To suggest all Alty fans tar supporters of certain other teams with the same brush, is, in fact, tarring all Alty supporters with the same brush.

Whoops!
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Ballers on February 08, 2007, 05:12:07 PM

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We banned him - unfortunately the death penalty was officially banned on 7th January 1999 so we couldn't take further action.  In fairness, people like Ricky Skelton shouldn't be at football in the first place and although GW can be a vicious bugger (having played footy against him) I've also been lurking around these forums long enough to know that he isn't someone who actively goes looking for trouble a la Ricky Skelton.

Of course, I could read the Alty FC fans handbook, Chapter 3, Verse 1 that states, "If a supporter of an opposing team behaves in an unacceptable manner, you must tar all other supporters of the same club with the same brush.  You must then attempt to whip up some mass hysteria based on hearsay and half-truths on all non-league forums you visit (i.e Unemployed Coalminer)".

Nah, let's just get on with the football.... carry on.
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Fair enough,was it the same mob who were letting of fireworks at one of your away games that people were a bit pissed off about?
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: bighairedmike on February 08, 2007, 05:29:02 PM
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Ho ho ho.  Glass houses, stones and all that!

Fair play and coming out with the apologies though. 

shouldn't your username have an S instead of an F at the beginning of it??? :-*
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: FCUM on February 09, 2007, 07:52:46 PM
why you on this board you muppet

Because I live in Alty you muppet.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: FCUM on February 09, 2007, 07:54:06 PM
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Ho ho ho.  Glass houses, stones and all that!

Fair play and coming out with the apologies though. 

shouldn't your username have an S instead of an F at the beginning of it??? :-*

Think of that yourself did you?  I thought Trafford had a good education system, but if that's the best you can come up with....
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: gazwarrington on February 09, 2007, 07:55:14 PM
So when have I played footy v you mate ? And even though I have no idea who you are I must say "I WAS GOING FOR THE BALL "
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: bighairedmike on February 09, 2007, 09:49:19 PM
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Ho ho ho.  Glass houses, stones and all that!

Fair play and coming out with the apologies though. 

shouldn't your username have an S instead of an F at the beginning of it??? :-*

Think of that yourself did you?  I thought Trafford had a good education system, but if that's the best you can come up with....

nah the education systems a joke. i thought everyone knew that. this is grammar school education for you. O wel. and yeah i fort of dat all by my big self ;)
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: FCUM on February 11, 2007, 12:06:37 PM
So when have I played footy v you mate ? And even though I have no idea who you are I must say "I WAS GOING FOR THE BALL "

Alty leisure leagues about 6 years ago.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: FCUM on February 11, 2007, 12:19:13 PM

Fair enough,was it the same mob who were letting of fireworks at one of your away games that people were a bit pissed off about?

Yeah it was his son I believe - the whole group are grade A nobs to be honest.  Unfortunately our remit doesn't extend to banning them from away games so there's not much that can be done on that front.   We have had a little bit of trouble at FCUM but it seems to be the same people all the time who then give the rest of us a bad name.  It's a shame because it subtracts from all the good community work that the club does (and there is a lot of unpublicised stuff) like anti racism days, bring a big coat day (and donate to Salvation Army) etc.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: baldrick on February 11, 2007, 12:53:49 PM
Bring a coat day? Thats a new one. Personally i hate all this anti racism nonsense. Football clubs should stick to football and not try to tell people how to think.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: FCUM on February 11, 2007, 05:37:11 PM
Bring a coat day? Thats a new one. Personally i hate all this anti racism nonsense. Football clubs should stick to football and not try to tell people how to think.

http://www.sportnetwork.net/boards/read/s158.php?f=156&i=101456&t=101456&sid=158
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SW on February 11, 2007, 10:11:22 PM
Sorry Baldrick but that's a tw*ts thing to say, racism is vile. I know football is football etc but the fact remains that even nowadays some so called fans bait black players, and it frankly is not on. Why do you think there are few Asian players around the area, given the populations in Lancs and West Yorks? Have a peake.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on February 12, 2007, 12:02:40 AM
Football, like it or not, and at whatever level can and sometimes does exert a huge influence on the millions who watch,follow and play the game. Sometimes arguably too much influence but hey?

What better way to get over a message such as the anti-racism message or the eat healthily message (AFC Telford Utd?) or getting over the benefits of education or non-smoking or alcohol moderation (all these I believe have been done via sport in general and football in particular) I can't think of one. Every opportunity to reach a mass audience must be utilised to the max.

As a previous poster has said racism is vile. I cannot believe that your post actually supported racism but sorry you still get a Peake from me too
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: AltyTunnelSteward on February 12, 2007, 08:25:42 AM
Sorry can I just clarify.

I didn't mean to suggest that you were supporting racism.

What I actually meant to say was that I cannot believe that you intended your post to support racism.

Sorry for that please feel free to Peake (Baldrick Only)
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Bob on February 12, 2007, 08:36:52 AM
Bring a coat day? Thats a new one. Personally i hate all this anti racism nonsense. Football clubs should stick to football and not try to tell people how to think.

Extraordinary...  :-[