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Title: Retained list and released list
Post by: HashtagAlty on May 02, 2023, 09:45:30 AM
Been said by a few already, but are we the only club not to actually do these.

Be nice as a Pro Club to put this out, and not be waiting till they rocked up on trial elsewhere.

You'll still get your engagement from contract extension.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Saughall Robin on May 02, 2023, 11:10:03 AM
Yes. It would be nice to have one.
It does seem another step forward in our professional journey.
Not sure we're going to do it though. Well, at least, not until we've recontracted all those Parky wants.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 02, 2023, 01:20:59 PM
It always takes me aback how quickly these are released, particularly in the Football League - some seem to come out as soon as the last ball is kicked.

Gives those released the best possible chance of getting themselves fixed up quickly I suppose.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: andrewflynn on May 02, 2023, 01:37:02 PM
I like it in the sense that it quickly progresses a club and its fans to the next chapter. It works for bigger clubs particularly as speculation online around their players is more rife so it's better to own that news as quickly as possible.

It does treat the players a little like cattle, but it's effective.

I can also see why a club would want to take their time over this, particularly a club like us, as posting a list of players we are 'negotiating new deals' with will no doubt alert other clubs to their availability.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: CRT Butty on May 02, 2023, 01:59:38 PM
We should do our work quietly and professionally. After we have secured who we want from the current squad we can consider our options.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Alty Bri on May 02, 2023, 02:25:46 PM
Aren't most of our players on 2-year deals?

Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Saughall Robin on May 02, 2023, 03:18:12 PM
I think the most annoying aspect of the process is the drip feeding of sign ups. I'd much rather have a list of those who've re-signed once the process is completed.
It's not exciting, it's frustrating.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 02, 2023, 05:39:09 PM
The biggest concern would obviously be Josh Lundstram - although I'd be amazed if he wasn't already on a two-year deal.

That said, we should be considering offering him improved terms if it is within the budget to do so.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Strong summer needed on May 06, 2023, 06:28:40 AM
Still waiting.....
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Strong summer needed on May 09, 2023, 05:51:48 AM
Lots of lovely testimonial and reunion dinner updates but still no list....
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 09, 2023, 08:34:18 AM
Lots of lovely testimonial and reunion dinner updates but still no list....

As far as I can see, only 4 teams out of the 24 have currently 'declared'.

Rochdale always compile a good list here: https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/rochdale/forum/297588/released-lists/#3

Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Saughall Robin on May 09, 2023, 09:13:43 AM
Lots of lovely testimonial and reunion dinner updates but still no list....

Understand your point, and your concern, but would understand it a great deal better if you needed to make the point next month.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Bob on May 09, 2023, 11:08:06 AM
Why is it so important that we know this right now? There are still matches to be played, the season isn't even officially over yet...
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Saughall Robin on May 09, 2023, 11:14:50 AM
Exactly. I'll start worrying about it in five weeks! 😉
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: MarpleAlty on May 09, 2023, 12:05:49 PM
Username of 'strong summer needed'.

We seem to be in crisis every summer judging by the forum - we know targets are being identified and internal conversations will be happening with our players as we speak.

Let's just be glad we're not in Morecambe's position; they'll probably be assuming their natural level alongside us the season after next.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: HashtagAlty on May 09, 2023, 12:23:56 PM
Username of 'strong summer needed'.

We seem to be in crisis every summer judging by the forum - we know targets are being identified and internal conversations will be happening with our players as we speak.

Let's just be glad we're not in Morecambe's position; they'll probably be assuming their natural level alongside us the season after next.

I'm not that fussed about when it comes per se, I wouldn't expect it till June, but the format of drip feeding signings shouldn't be our approach
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Saughall Robin on May 09, 2023, 12:25:42 PM
Username of 'strong summer needed'.

We seem to be in crisis every summer judging by the forum - we know targets are being identified and internal conversations will be happening with our players as we speak.

Let's just be glad we're not in Morecambe's position; they'll probably be assuming their natural level alongside us the season after next.

I'm not that fussed about when it comes per se, I wouldn't expect it till June, but the format of drip feeding signings shouldn't be our approach

My sentiments exactly.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on May 09, 2023, 12:27:30 PM
Username of 'strong summer needed'.

We seem to be in crisis every summer judging by the forum - we know targets are being identified and internal conversations will be happening with our players as we speak.

Let's just be glad we're not in Morecambe's position; they'll probably be assuming their natural level alongside us the season after next.

I'm not that fussed about when it comes per se, I wouldn't expect it till June, but the format of drip feeding signings shouldn't be our approach

My sentiments exactly.

This. It was beyond irritating last season. We had that many teasers that I was convinced Wayno was in charge.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Strong summer needed on May 09, 2023, 02:56:17 PM
Wwhhooosssh
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: HashtagAlty on May 09, 2023, 02:57:05 PM
Thank you John, Cathal and Rob for taking the fans thoughts on board.
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Seth on May 09, 2023, 05:35:31 PM
Username of 'strong summer needed'.

We seem to be in crisis every summer judging by the forum - we know targets are being identified and internal conversations will be happening with our players as we speak.

Let's just be glad we're not in Morecambe's position; they'll probably be assuming their natural level alongside us the season after next.

We’ll need a strong summer every year we continue relying on loan players
Title: Re: Retained list and released list
Post by: Toff Apple on May 09, 2023, 07:35:56 PM
Username of 'strong summer needed'.

We seem to be in crisis every summer judging by the forum - we know targets are being identified and internal conversations will be happening with our players as we speak.

Let's just be glad we're not in Morecambe's position; they'll probably be assuming their natural level alongside us the season after next.

We’ll need a strong summer every year we continue relying on loan players

Thats the world we inhabit and without them i suspect we'd have been in deep trouble last year.  Try before you buy and a chance to get quality Maxi / CCC tha you otherwise wouldnt get.