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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: distancetraveller on May 23, 2022, 10:48:17 PM
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Grimsby come from behind to beat Notts County 2-1 AET
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Their equaliser came in the 96th minute and the winner in the 118th!
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It’s Halifax v Chesterfield tonight.
I fancy Halifax for this one
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It’s Halifax v Chesterfield tonight.
I fancy Halifax for this one
Agree.
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Chesterfield one up after 19 minutes.
May be jinxing them but Chesterfield 2-1 up with one minute plus injury time to go
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Chesterfield 2-1 victors. They were the better team.
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Wrexham to beat Grimsby.
Moors to beat Chesterfield.
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How ironic that the second Chesterfield goal was scored by ex Halifax (and Alty) player Jeff King.
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Jeff of course the nephew of the one and only John King. Amazing that Kingy still having an indirect influence at the top of non-League football even today.
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Mullins you diving Scouse Bastard
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Get in.
Well done Grimsby
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4-4 at Wrecsam with 10 minutes to go.
Come on you trawler boys!
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Another sh*t National league ref at Wrexham today,
Extra time being played 4-4
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Hey Wrexham…. See you on Boxing Day…. We’ll done Grimsby
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Grimsby long throw hurled into the area wins it for them. How ironic. 🤪
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Two goals for ex-Alty loanee Luke Waterfall.
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Two goals for ex-Alty loanee Luke Waterfall.
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one game of it lol
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Just listening to hear Wrexhams Parkinson having a moan as per usual..
I wouldn’t swap our Parky for Wrexhams.
I wonder what the Hollywood B listers reckon …
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Another sh*t National league ref at Wrexham today,
Extra time being played 4-4
Adam Herczeg, who was the referee when we were promoted at Boston.
I have never heard such a stinging criticism of a referee from a manager as Phil Parkinson's after today's game.
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Another sh*t National league ref at Wrexham today,
Extra time being played 4-4
Adam Herczeg, who was the referee when we were promoted at Boston.
I have never heard such a stinging criticism of a referee from a manager as Phil Parkinson's after today's game.
Absolutely. There were a lot of refereeing mistakes in that game but the other PP should have mentioned that his team benefitted from at least as many of them as they suffered from.
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Two goals for ex-Alty loanee Luke Waterfall.
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one game of it lol
What he learned in that one game set him up perfectly for the rest of his career 🤣
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Two goals for ex-Alty loanee Luke Waterfall.
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one game of it lol
What he learned in that one game set him up perfectly for the rest of his career 🤣
Yep. He’s not bad for a Yarky lad
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I think Solihull will do Chesterfield today and I hope they do tbh as Chesterfield much better from a financial POV for us staying in the league. Plus Solihull always equals misery when we play there.
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I would find it very amusing if Solihull won the play offs and the really big spenders lost out.
Also means bigger gates for us!
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I would find it very amusing if Solihull won the play offs and the really big spenders lost out.
Also means bigger gates for us!
Remember I tipped them some weeks ago.....
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Yep, Solihull definitely the preference to go up.
Keeps a lot of big northern teams in the division - in fact, we arguably get more if we lose Stockport but gain Oldham and York.
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Am I correct in thinking that, apart from Wrexham, if Solihull get promoted, the next team south from us is Maidenhead? That would be crazy!
Sorry, forgot about Notts County!... but still.
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Am I correct in thinking that, apart from Wrexham, if Solihull get promoted, the next team south from us is Maidenhead? That would be crazy!
Sorry, forgot about Notts County!... but still.
Chesterfield.
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That's still further north than Alty isn't it?
PS. Just checked. You're correct!
Certainly further north than Saughall! 😂😂
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Solihull 3-1 up after an hour.
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There will be a very stark North/South split if Solihull do go up and with Kings Lynn having gone down - a complete void between Notts County (the southernmost of the northern teams) and Boreham Wood (the northernmost of the southern teams).
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Less than ideal for Alty fans living in the Cotswolds
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Less than ideal for Alty fans living in the Cotswolds
If you can afford to live there surely you can stretch to a chauffeur? 😂😂
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Less than ideal for Alty fans living in the Cotswolds
If you can afford to live there surely you can stretch to a chauffeur? 😂😂
Altrincham is one of the more expensive parts of the UK to live in also :)
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Less than ideal for Alty fans living in the Cotswolds
If you can afford to live there surely you can stretch to a chauffeur? 😂😂
Altrincham is one of the more expensive parts of the UK to live in also :)
That's one of the reasons why I can't afford to live there either! 😉
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Someone recently mentioned the north / south split not being great in this league - I actually think it's been better in recent years, with all the money spinning big guns being based in the north too. And we get both York / Oldham now.
10 / 14 split with a yawning gap in between! - I bet the league will be glad the numbers are even for the Christmas / New Year pairings regardless of what happens in the playoffs.
Where have all the midlands clubs gone? Kettering / Kiddy / Telford / Tamworth / Nuneaton etc. Maybe we'll get one next year.
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How many of those 'southern' clubs are in Greater London and the South East? Most of them I'd think.
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Weymouth gone, so we have Yeovil and Torquay in the South west.
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Solihull 3-1 up after an hour.
I hope they go up, Chesterfield is a much better awayday if Solihull do go up they will have to sort out the parking and access plus LandRover Jaguar may want there land back
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How many of those 'southern' clubs are in Greater London and the South East? Most of them I'd think.
I make 14/24 next season being in the Home Counties in our league and 10 of those 14 under an hour from central London by train with Yeovil, Torquay, Maidstone (just) and Eastleigh being the exceptions. I still maintain Sutton’s title last season was massively aided by just how many local
Games they had.
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Less than ideal for Alty fans living in the Cotswolds
If you can afford to live there surely you can stretch to a chauffeur? 😂😂
I could have those of us living 10 miles from Swindon (nearest supermarket) but that sounds much less pleasant!
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Only teasing you know, BA, cheer up, you've still got the Yeovil game. 😉
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Just under two hours that one. Maidenhead is the closest. Shame both Chippenham and Oxford city lost in nls playoff semis
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Yes. I keep thinking Chester might make a push for it as they're about three miles away but nearer bottom half again.
Vauxhall Motors used to be good only four or five miles to them.
I'm left with with Wrexham who are three times as close as Alty! 😉
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Yes. I keep thinking Chester might make a push for it as they're about three miles away but nearer bottom half again.
Vauxhall Motors used to be good only four or five miles to them.
I'm left with with Wrexham who are three times as close as Alty! 😉
If they keep tumbling, you could have Crewe next season....
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That's still further north than Alty isn't it?
PS. Just checked. You're correct!
Certainly further north than Saughall! 😂😂
Chesterfield
Notts County
Wealdstone
Barnet
Boreham Wood
Dagenham & Redbridge
are all further north than Maidenhead by my reckoning.
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That's still further north than Alty isn't it?
PS. Just checked. You're correct!
Certainly further north than Saughall! 😂😂
Chesterfield
Notts County
Wealdstone
Barnet
Boreham Wood
Dagenham & Redbridge
are all further north than Maidenhead by my reckoning.
Just shows you what I know! 🙄😂😂
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That's still further north than Alty isn't it?
PS. Just checked. You're correct!
Certainly further north than Saughall! 😂😂
Chesterfield
Notts County
Wealdstone
Barnet
Boreham Wood
Dagenham & Redbridge
are all further north than Maidenhead by my reckoning.
Just shows you what I know! 🙄😂😂
The principle of the point you made was very good, it's just not quite as dramatic as you thought.
It is a weird geographical spread of teams in NL.
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As long as I can get to a fair number and we can win 50% of the matches, I don't really care where they are!
Having said that, the demise of non-league teams in the Midlands and the regular dropping into the league of northern big hitters has certainly accelerated the polarisation of the league.
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As long as I can get to a fair number and we can win 50% of the matches, I don't really care where they are!
Having said that, the demise of non-league teams in the Midlands and the regular dropping into the league of northern big hitters has certainly accelerated the polarisation of the league.
56% win rate takes us to the POs.
50% win rate and some draws would be a fab season!
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Top half next season would be fabulous and, perhaps, an optimistic outcome with all the changes that are going through.
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There could be as many as 16 former league teams in the NL next season (even if that does include Gateshead), Add the likes of Boreham Wood and Woking, and the Conference has never been more competitive. Average crowds over 3,000 for the first time too - more than some seasons for the 4th division in the 1980's Probably a good thing we're going full time!
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Absolutely , it get's stronger by the year , i really think it's time for 3 up 3 down to be considered.
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Absolutely , it get's stronger by the year , i really think it's time for 3 up 3 down to be considered.
Many recall the days league clubs being set against any automatic promotion, now so many ex-league clubs are in the NL that wheel has certainly turned.
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Absolutely , it get's stronger by the year , i really think it's time for 3 up 3 down to be considered.
Many recall the days league clubs being set against any automatic promotion, now so many ex-league clubs are in the NL that wheel has certainly turned.
Wasn’t the then Luton chairman (one Eric Morecambe) one of the ones who voted against Alty joining the league.
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Absolutely , it get's stronger by the year , i really think it's time for 3 up 3 down to be considered.
Many recall the days league clubs being set against any automatic promotion, now so many ex-league clubs are in the NL that wheel has certainly turned.
Wasn’t the then Luton chairman (one Eric Morecambe) one of the ones who voted against Alty joining the league.
It might have been the Luton chairman who voted against us but it certainly wasn't Eric Morecambe...
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Absolutely , it get's stronger by the year , i really think it's time for 3 up 3 down to be considered.
Many recall the days league clubs being set against any automatic promotion, now so many ex-league clubs are in the NL that wheel has certainly turned.
Wasn’t the then Luton chairman (one Eric Morecambe) one of the ones who voted against Alty joining the league.
It might have been the Luton chairman who voted against us but it certainly wasn't Eric Morecambe...
Yeah correct, he was a director and became Vice president 👍
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Absolutely , it get's stronger by the year , i really think it's time for 3 up 3 down to be considered.
Many recall the days league clubs being set against any automatic promotion, now so many ex-league clubs are in the NL that wheel has certainly turned.
Wasn’t the then Luton chairman (one Eric Morecambe) one of the ones who voted against Alty joining the league.
Extract from my When We Were Kings article covering the 1980 re-election travesty:
The votes cast in the eventual Football League re-election poll for the 1979/80 season were as follows: Darlington: 49; Crewe Alexandra: 48; Hereford United: 48; Rochdale: 26 and Altrincham: 25. If the Robins had received just one additional vote and tied with the Spotland club, a second ballot featuring only those two candidates would have ensued, in which the eligible electors were then obliged to cast a single vote for the club of their choice. In the two preceding instances when it had proved necessary to hold a second round of voting, the Non League club had, indeed, prevailed on each occasion and, hence, had secured admission into the Football League (Hereford United defeating Barrow in 1972 and Wigan Athletic overcoming Southport in 1978).
Alty‘s initial emotions of intense heartache and sheer disbelief at this cruel news that they had failed to displace Rochdale by just two votes were subsequently exacerbated by disillusionment and the impression that they had been cheated, when it emerged that two clubs had actually omitted to vote and the absence of their ballot papers had not been detected until after the AGM had concluded.
The first of the culprits to be identified were Second Division Luton Town, whose delegation of representatives had been late in arriving for the meeting after ostensibly getting held up in London’s traffic. Their Chairman, Denis Mortimer, duly released a statement: “The traffic was bad and we were delayed. To be fair to everyone involved, I am not going to reveal who we would have voted for.”
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Absolutely , it get's stronger by the year , i really think it's time for 3 up 3 down to be considered.
Many recall the days league clubs being set against any automatic promotion, now so many ex-league clubs are in the NL that wheel has certainly turned.
Wasn’t the then Luton chairman (one Eric Morecambe) one of the ones who voted against Alty joining the league.
Extract from my When We Were Kings article covering the 1980 re-election travesty:
The votes cast in the eventual Football League re-election poll for the 1979/80 season were as follows: Darlington: 49; Crewe Alexandra: 48; Hereford United: 48; Rochdale: 26 and Altrincham: 25. If the Robins had received just one additional vote and tied with the Spotland club, a second ballot featuring only those two candidates would have ensued, in which the eligible electors were then obliged to cast a single vote for the club of their choice. In the two preceding instances when it had proved necessary to hold a second round of voting, the Non League club had, indeed, prevailed on each occasion and, hence, had secured admission into the Football League (Hereford United defeating Barrow in 1972 and Wigan Athletic overcoming Southport in 1978).
Alty‘s initial emotions of intense heartache and sheer disbelief at this cruel news that they had failed to displace Rochdale by just two votes were subsequently exacerbated by disillusionment and the impression that they had been cheated, when it emerged that two clubs had actually omitted to vote and the absence of their ballot papers had not been detected until after the AGM had concluded.
The first of the culprits to be identified were Second Division Luton Town, whose delegation of representatives had been late in arriving for the meeting after ostensibly getting held up in London’s traffic. Their Chairman, Denis Mortimer, duly released a statement: “The traffic was bad and we were delayed. To be fair to everyone involved, I am not going to reveal who we would have voted for.”
I seem to remember Graham Heathcote saying the reason the other club didn't vote was because their chairman got drunk and fell asleep when the vote was being taken. Was it Grimsby?
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It was.
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Absolutely , it get's stronger by the year , i really think it's time for 3 up 3 down to be considered.
Many recall the days league clubs being set against any automatic promotion, now so many ex-league clubs are in the NL that wheel has certainly turned.
Wasn’t the then Luton chairman (one Eric Morecambe) one of the ones who voted against Alty joining the league.
Extract from my When We Were Kings article covering the 1980 re-election travesty:
The votes cast in the eventual Football League re-election poll for the 1979/80 season were as follows: Darlington: 49; Crewe Alexandra: 48; Hereford United: 48; Rochdale: 26 and Altrincham: 25. If the Robins had received just one additional vote and tied with the Spotland club, a second ballot featuring only those two candidates would have ensued, in which the eligible electors were then obliged to cast a single vote for the club of their choice. In the two preceding instances when it had proved necessary to hold a second round of voting, the Non League club had, indeed, prevailed on each occasion and, hence, had secured admission into the Football League (Hereford United defeating Barrow in 1972 and Wigan Athletic overcoming Southport in 1978).
Alty‘s initial emotions of intense heartache and sheer disbelief at this cruel news that they had failed to displace Rochdale by just two votes were subsequently exacerbated by disillusionment and the impression that they had been cheated, when it emerged that two clubs had actually omitted to vote and the absence of their ballot papers had not been detected until after the AGM had concluded.
The first of the culprits to be identified were Second Division Luton Town, whose delegation of representatives had been late in arriving for the meeting after ostensibly getting held up in London’s traffic. Their Chairman, Denis Mortimer, duly released a statement: “The traffic was bad and we were delayed. To be fair to everyone involved, I am not going to reveal who we would have voted for.”
I seem to remember Graham Heathcote saying the reason the other club didn't vote was because their chairman got drunk and fell asleep when the vote was being taken. Was it Grimsby?
Further paragraphs from When We Were Kings:
Grimsby Town were later unmasked as being the second guilty party in this electoral chaos, when it was disclosed that the Chairman of the newly-promoted Third Division Champions, Dick Middleton, had contrived to sit in the main body of the hall in error, rather than proceed to his rightful place at the front amongst the voting members. Consequently, he was not handed his ballot paper.
The Manchester Evening News’ Non League Football correspondent, Doug Peacock, succeeded in buttonholing an unnamed Grimsby Town official as they scurried away from the AGM, who sheepishly divulged their account of the cause of this farcical confusion: “We understood that in previous years, representatives of newly-promoted clubs stayed among the non-voting-members of the Third and Fourth Divisions during the meeting. It was a misunderstanding.”
However, a radically different theory pertaining to the reason for the absence of four of this total of eight uncast votes was subsequently expounded by Graham Heathcote in Andy Mitten’s article on Altrincham FC in the November 2004 issue of Four Four Two magazine, when the Alty midfielder alleged that: “One bloke who promised to support us got pissed and fell asleep."
Just to add insult to injury, the Robins’ officials intimated that both of the clubs involved had previously indicated that they were in favour of electing Alty into the Fourth Division. A crestfallen Noel White remarked: “Two clubs did not vote and they were as near as you can get to being ones we could bank on. But they did not arrive and now we feel a little bit cheated. We are very, very disappointed because we went flat out for the league this time. We only asked to be judged on merit and I don’t think we have been.”
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Absolutely , it get's stronger by the year , i really think it's time for 3 up 3 down to be considered.
Or, a more radical approach, but quite easy to justify...create "Division 3"
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I should imagine the current Grimsby Chairman will also be getting pissed on Sunday if they beat Solihull
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Absolutely , it get's stronger by the year , i really think it's time for 3 up 3 down to be considered.
Or, a more radical approach, but quite easy to justify...create "Division 3"
What about div2 North and South?
That way we'd be tier 4 instead of tier 5!
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Well done Grimsby. I’d loved to see the back of Solihull but by God The trawlermen deserved it. Well done.
The Solihull manager looks like a pissed off image of Gordon Ramsey
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Agreed.
If you win away at Notts County and Wrexham (both after extra time) and then come from behind to win in extra time in the final, you really do deserve to go up.
Well done Grimsby!
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Agreed.
If you win away at Notts County and Wrexham (both after extra time) and then come from behind to win in extra time in the final, you really do deserve to go up.
Well done Grimsby!
If you finish second over a league season and two go up, you deserve to go up.
I don't agree with playoffs as a concept, I am an increasingly old fart.
(But yeah far rather Grimsby than Solihull!)
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On the one hand, I agree.
On the other, if we are ever in the future to be promoted from this league, the most likely route would be through the play offs rather than winning the league.
That being the case, I'm totally in favour of play offs. I do think it should be three up though (two top clubs and one via the play offs).
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On the one hand, I agree.
On the other, if we are ever in the future to be promoted from this league, the most likely route would be through the play offs rather than winning the league.
That being the case, I'm totally in favour of play offs. I do think it should be three up though (two top clubs and one via the play offs).
I was gobsmacked when the League agreed to two up, two down. I doubt it'll go to three any time soon.
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Sadly, I agree with you there too! 😉
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Delighted for Solihull to be getting beat in ET. Classless throughout that defeat in January
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Delighted for Solihull to be getting beat in ET. Classless throughout that defeat in January
And afterwards too - don't forget the painful comments on the PA about it being our cup final.
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Delighted for Solihull to be getting beat in ET. Classless throughout that defeat in January
And afterwards too - don't forget the painful comments on the PA about it being our cup final.
They'll always be a small club, regardless of what division they get to play in - see also Forest Green Rovers.
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Delighted for Solihull to be getting beat in ET. Classless throughout that defeat in January
And afterwards too - don't forget the painful comments on the PA about it being our cup final.
They'll always be a small club, regardless of what division they get to play in - see also Forest Green Rovers.
Correct. Been hugely bankrolled to get where they are today-just a Midlands version of Salford City.
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I should think that there ground will be swallowed up by Landrover/Jaguar in the not too distant future
Parking is also a problem at there place, sending people to the airport a mile away is not really an option if they attract a big away following.
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I believe the council are on their side and they could be moving to a sports ground about a mile away. How the move is funded though is still up in the air. Perhaps the car firm will give them a chunk to get shot of them?