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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: samba on April 28, 2007, 07:43:52 PM
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Don't think it's been mentioned yet, but what are the chances of another team leaving/being kicked out and us being kept up by it? Crawley are in admin, so will they get kicked out?
I also remember the Weymouth statement saying "we will complete this year in the conference but our future may be in a different league"?
Just being hopeful! I think did really well, absolutely gutted we didn't score. Can't beleive we didn't in honesty. Also DEFINATELY think we should have had at least 2 penalties. But as they say, it wasn't our day.
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I think Weymouth will stay, but struggle next year.
We can still dream regarding Crawley. Quite simply, financially, they cheated.
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lets just hope we stay up, because crawley down by financial business
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Don't forget that we still have to have the end of season chaos brought to you by the incompetants who run the Conference
It would come as a fairly major surprise if we didn't have some sort of fiasco with teams facing expulsion for financial problems, and if they dig deep enough, they will surely find some team who has fielded an ineligible player ;)
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boston prob best bet if clutching at straws.
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Weymouth are staying in the conferance they have sorted themselves out.I think we have to accept we are in conferance north,could be worse it could be conferance south lol.
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I'll be amazed if Boston or Crawley go. For one, it doesn't look good on a league if teams are constantly being relegated for off the pitch issues, as has happened too often in the past few years. I suspect those at the top are wary of doing this again.
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heres to hoping and dreamig then!
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I think Weymouth will stay, but struggle next year.
We can still dream regarding Crawley. Quite simply, financially, they cheated.
at the race night last night somebody said to us that crawley would not go down. he said he had inside information so...
also i got a text of a mate last night saying that he had heard stafford may be getting 3 points deducted an asking if i knew anything. i haven't got a clue. anybody?
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heres to hoping and dreamig then!
You can hope and dream all you like, Crawley aint going anywhere, we have done enough on the field, to rightfully keep our place in the Premier, weve paid our dues with a ten point deduction, weve made a team out of players that no one else wanted and we held our own, Alty however didnt, so take your punishment for not being good enough for this league, like Tamworth, Southport and st albans had to.
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im praying crawley leave.
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heres to hoping and dreamig then!
weve made a team out of players that no one else wanted
That's obviously not true.
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heres to hoping and dreamig then!
weve made a team out of players that no one else wanted
That's obviously not true.
You don't pay the sort of money Crawley were paying for players noboby else wanted!
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"weve paid our dues with a ten point deduction"
Is this some sort of new exchange rate?
Alty could quite clearly spend a couple of million on the team to finsih high in the league and then reduce this by 75%......then do the same again!!
We'd rather earn things on merit on a sound financial footing and pay our bills but if other clubs f*ck themselves good and proper and break rules left right and centre we can't help it really if the conference kick them out and reprieve us can we?
Crawley have clearly the money to pay their dues at the proper rate of £1 to the £1 owed (at worst they could sell a few motors) so as such do not have financial problems. My suspicion is that the owners are just grinding out their cva payment with which the conference may lose patience.
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Who's going into the Southern league from the Conference?
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FAO Robbie the Crawley fan - too right mate, I'd rather take my punishment and watch Alty in the Conf North as opposed to watching your team being made a laughing stock by a couple of crooks. The more sensible among your fans were happy to do a Canvey at the start of the season than go through the farce of being 'run' by the Majeeds. I reckon you need the luck more than we do next year.
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heres to hoping and dreamig then!
You can hope and dream all you like, Crawley aint going anywhere, we have done enough on the field, to rightfully keep our place in the Premier, weve paid our dues with a ten point deduction, weve made a team out of players that no one else wanted and we held our own, Alty however didnt, so take your punishment for not being good enough for this league, like Tamworth, Southport and st albans had to.
I accept that we didn't do well enough on the pitch to stay up because the league table speaks for itself. I accept we will play in a lower league next year also.
Most of all, however, we at Alty will all hold our heads high and feel proud that we gave it our best whilst acting with integrity and paying our way at all times. We have solid foundations upon which to build and we also have a chairman (I assume you still don't have one!). Sometimes you have to take a step back in order to take two steps forward and we all know the score at Alty. There is no bitterness, no "sack the board" and there are also no thugs in control of the club facing the potential loss of their assets if we can't pay a CVA. I would still be proud of this club if we were playing in trhe North West Counties League and I would not swap with Crawley for anything even if it takes another 5 years for us to bounce back.
I'M SO PROUD TO BE AN ALTY FAN
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heres to hoping and dreamig then!
You can hope and dream all you like, Crawley aint going anywhere, we have done enough on the field, to rightfully keep our place in the Premier, weve paid our dues with a ten point deduction, weve made a team out of players that no one else wanted and we held our own, Alty however didnt, so take your punishment for not being good enough for this league, like Tamworth, Southport and st albans had to.
I accept that we didn't do well enough on the pitch to stay up because the league table speaks for itself. I accept we will play in a lower league next year also.
Most of all, however, we at Alty will all hold our heads high and feel proud that we gave it our best whilst acting with integrity and paying our way at all times. We have solid foundations upon which to build and we also have a chairman (I assume you still don't have one!). Sometimes you have to take a step back in order to take two steps forward and we all know the score at Alty. There is no bitterness, no "sack the board" and there are also no thugs in control of the club facing the potential loss of their assets if we can't pay a CVA. I would still be proud of this club if we were playing in trhe North West Counties League and I would not swap with Crawley for anything even if it takes another 5 years for us to bounce back.
I'M SO PROUD TO BE AN ALTY FAN
This is very true, and you can ring in a few other clubs i wouldnt swap places for. How long will northwich last in their current state? Droylsden, not the kind of club that will be knocking on the conference door in 5 years time. Numerous other conference clubs living in the shadow of a bursting bubble!
We're down but not out, its the third time we've been relegated in recent years and we've had more success in that time than i can remember. Its an opportunity for us to build up again and enjoy some good results along the way.
Im gutted for everyone there on saturday, particularly the lads and lasses who were experiencing their third relegation at moss lane, I really feel for these true football fans. But we've been there before and i wouldnt be suprised if we taste it again. To get back to where we are now means winning the league or another great day at stoke or similar. Surely that opportunity alone beats the bollocks off being a creepy crawley fan with the majeeds ready to pull the trigger at any time!
Cheers crawley robbie, you really helped bring out the positives at moss lane!
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If, as is highly possible, Boston go down on Saturday then I doubt they will survive.
Not only will they have a 10 point deduction for next season, but they will owe at least £1.5m and may yet be evicted from their ground.
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If, as is highly possible, Boston go down on Saturday then I doubt they will survive.
Not only will they have a 10 point deduction for next season, but they will owe at least £1.5m and may yet be evicted from their ground.
As much as I dislike Boston and think their club is a cmplete shambles I would just feel a bit empty were we to survive in this way. Last season we genuinely survived on the pitch but despite our best efforts we failed to do so this year. I would naturally be happy to stay in the Conference but would certainly not feel like celebrating it at the expense of another club (whoever they might be).
Something tells me Boston will get something sorted out and play on next year in the conference.
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The irony of this is unbelievable Silky. So basically, if we want the possibility of Boston coming down going bust and repreiving us we have to hope and pray Macc stay up on the last day ::)
Also, as I feared, we wait 10 years for you to come down so we meet again and what happens, we're back down too. Never the twain shall meet >:(
Personally I knew we were doomed when the Setanta deal was announced, we are unbelievably unlucky at missing out on windfalls. Incredible :( Likewise, I've a feeling Wrexham will come down now that we're in the BSN, another payday bites the dust :P
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If we were to be reprieved, we would continue to work within our means - which is what we all want - and would be in for another season of struggle with the likelihood of another season-long fight against relegation.
I'm not sure if that's very palatable either.
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Struggle at Exeter vs. battle at Redditch.
Struggle please! :)
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Struggle at Exeter vs. battle at Redditch.
Struggle please! :)
Agreed.
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Agreed ,but Exeter my well be in division2 next season
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heres to hoping and dreamig then!
You can hope and dream all you like, Crawley aint going anywhere, we have done enough on the field, to rightfully keep our place in the Premier, weve paid our dues with a ten point deduction, weve made a team out of players that no one else wanted and we held our own, Alty however didnt, so take your punishment for not being good enough for this league, like Tamworth, Southport and st albans had to.
We deserve to go down, we didn't get enough points. Can't see many on here saying differently. We tried our best but it wasn't enough.
Please, please spare us the "its been a struggle against all odds crap". You beaten a number of clubs to the signature of players this season. How many signings have you made this year?
Does Tony Scully player for £50 and petrol money at Crawley?
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This (http://www.ctfc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=858) may be of some interest. Maybe.
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definetly st albans and probably tamworth
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It seems that May 11th is D Day for Crawley if they have not paid back their creditors by then then they will lose their conferance status,not that i wish that upon them.
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if boston liquidate when relegated and u r given a reprieve. would you rather build up in the conference north or try conference football for another season?
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The concensus is that we'd rather be in the conf national but we will not be kicking down anyone's door to force the issue. We accept relegation graciously and if lady luck hands us a reprieve we will accept it without any schadenfreude.
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I agree and i would not like to see another club fold either
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No-one wants to see a club fold, but if they are thrown out of the Conference they could possibly start in the Southern League. Everyone wins: the wrongdoers are punished and the club stays in existence.
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i agree i don't like to see any club fold but a football club isnt kept in a league by just what happens on the pitch. The club has to deal financially and run the club as a business. and this is what makes me proud to be an ALTY fan. We survived as a part time team in conf national and then the following season, came 4th bottom with a respectable 51 points. At the same time we made small profit over the season and improved the debt problem when a lesser club would have made a difference decision. therefore, although i dont like to see clubs fold, it is punishment for not running the club properly and if we stay up due to another clubs financial problems i won't accept the "you were lucky" speech or the "you're only here cos of Crawley" speech because we ran our club properly and you didnt.
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Spot on Altyf, exactly the point. Why we went down is because we didn't get one more goal, one more point but others stay up by buying their position with funds they don't have. If it can happen to a club the size of Leeds then surely these buy now pay later clubs have to see the writing is on the wall. The gamble will not work long term.
Football itself must change, the Conference wage cap is a good move but it needs to be properly audited and regular spot checks carried out so clubs cant do what Vics are supposed to have done in delaying publishing accounts.
The moral high ground is all well and good but only if others who walk over rules are caught out and dealt with as any other business would be.
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F.A.O.
Bob
Stafford aint losing any points as they haven't played any inelligable players, offered bungs, gone into admin or anything else for that matter ::)
Feel sorry for genuine fans but those who support prospering of wrong doing or try to cover up shall surely fall from grace ala M Connett and the Madjeeds
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