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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: MarpleAlty on October 11, 2023, 12:23:27 PM
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...so the management have a bit of a decision to make regarding which system to use; I'm sure I speak for most in saying I think we should revert back to 4-2-3-1:
Ross
Banks Cooper Baines E.Jones
Marriott(c) Osborne
Amaluzor Conn-Clarke Newby
Angus
Could be well off, but I'm thinking the inclusion of James Jones last night means he's thinking of starting with 4-2-3-1 and Jake Cooper for the weekend, because I doubt he would have felt Jones needed the match fitness after the full 90 against Gateshead. Dior Angus needs to keep his minutes up too.
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That's the obvious selection - and I agree with it. But what do we know? 😏
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...so the management have a bit of a decision to make regarding which system to use; I'm sure I speak for most in saying I think we should revert back to 4-2-3-1:
Ross
Banks Cooper Baines E.Jones
Marriott(c) Osborne
Amaluzor Conn-Clarke Newby
Angus
Could be well off, but I'm thinking the inclusion of James Jones last night means he's thinking of starting with 4-2-3-1 and Jake Cooper for the weekend, because I doubt he would have felt Jones needed the match fitness after the full 90 against Gateshead. Dior Angus needs to keep his minutes up too.
As an armchair manager, I would go with same lineup.
We'll see on Saturday.
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That would be my starting 11.
Alty 2-1 Oldham (Con-Clarke, Banks)
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Both teams are in form. Really looking forward to this one. Anyone any idea how many tickets we’ve sold?
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Both teams are in form. Really looking forward to this one. Anyone any idea how many tickets we’ve sold?
Someone bought ticket 1378 yesterday morning I believe, slowly ticking over and now taking cash on the gate.
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Just over 1500 i hear
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That would be my starting 11.
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Just over 1500 i hear
Which isn't great
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Just over 1500 i hear
Which isn't great
Financial realities I suspect.
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Both teams are in form. Really looking forward to this one. Anyone any idea how many tickets we’ve sold?
Someone bought ticket 1378 yesterday morning I believe, slowly ticking over and now taking cash on the gate.
Never realisticly going to get anywhere near 5,000 in so should have been pay at gate from square one . Remember the Barnsley game being foolishly made all ticket and we lost a packet with only 2,500 attending.
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Both teams are in form. Really looking forward to this one. Anyone any idea how many tickets we’ve sold?
Someone bought ticket 1378 yesterday morning I believe, slowly ticking over and now taking cash on the gate.
Never realisticly going to get anywhere near 5,000 in so should have been pay at gate from square one . Remember the Barnsley game being foolishly made all ticket and we lost a packet with only 2,500 attending.
My thoughts exactly.
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I understand Oldham are currently managerless too, but that may change before tomorrow I guess.
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Both teams are in form. Really looking forward to this one. Anyone any idea how many tickets we’ve sold?
Someone bought ticket 1378 yesterday morning I believe, slowly ticking over and now taking cash on the gate.
Never realisticly going to get anywhere near 5,000 in so should have been pay at gate from square one . Remember the Barnsley game being foolishly made all ticket and we lost a packet with only 2,500 attending.
My thoughts exactly.
Easy to say in hindsight, I suppose... but ultimately it's a fourth qualifying round game, I'm not sure why they thought we'd be threatening anything much above 3,000.
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I understand Oldham are currently managerless too, but that may change before tomorrow I guess.
Micky Mell9n announced as new manager.
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MELLON 😪
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Only expected to be watching from the stand tomorrow, so hopefully the New Manager Bounce can wait a game.
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Keep the winning run going, don’t let Mr Lundstrum have a happy return to ML
Alty 2-1 Oldham
Att 4183.
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Surely attendance won't reach 4000...
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3456
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4032 👍
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Just over 3k. 3076.
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3651
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3148
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3-2-1-0 and blast off to a cup run 🤞
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3-2-1-0 and blast off to a cup run 🤞
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Get rid of the sodding music
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Get rid of the sodding music
They listened but didn't bring back commentary... Fun beeps is fun
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Tough one that….. :(
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No idea how we lost that and fair play to Oldham for hanging in there.
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Only Newby was moving out of the front 4.
How did Amaluzor get MOTM? Lacked confidence and movement, looked disinterested at times.
Dior was poor again, his touch was awful and a lack of strength. Would rather see Sithole start.
Desperately need Linney back.
They wanted it more than us.
Yet again we have bottled the FA Cup.
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The treble is over, but the double is still on ;)
Seriously though as already stated bottled it in the
FA cup again so frustrating,hopefully Dorking will suffer
The backlash next week
Gutted but we will go again next week.
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Look, it's a tough one to take and we're all gonna be down, but we were clearly better than Oldham - we just couldn't score.
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I didn’t think they offered much going forward but they looked well organised defensively. We couldn’t break them down. CCC and Justin A had a tough day. Nothing came off for either of them and I felt it was a game that was going to be settled by a bit of brilliance or a scrappy goal.
Sadly it was the latter.
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Poor performances all round. Never got going. Looked nervous. Think we bottled it. They came for a nil nil from the start. They are poor. We'll see what excuses are given..
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Oh well... that's it for another year 🙄
Never thought I'd say it, but rather we took the league points off them. Looking forward to seeing a response and six points in the next two home games cementing a play offs spot.
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Not that bothered about losing a cup match we are never going to win, romantic yes, but with our good start to the season I would rather get 3 points at Boundary Park in a fortnight and maybe a good run in the trophy.
Dorking up next followed by Kiddy both winnable to keep us on track.
Not sure giving up half the ground to away fans is the way ahead to be frank. It’s not ALL about money folks.
The view from the pop side for home fans wasn’t good unless you are 6’ 4”
The tannoy needs adjusting or the bloke who operates it does…
Marriott was MoM
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Not that bothered about losing a cup match we are never going to win, romantic yes, but with our good start to the season I would rather get 3 points at Boundary Park in a fortnight and maybe a good run in the trophy.
Dorking up next followed by Kiddy both winnable to keep us on track.
Not sure giving up half the ground to away fans is the way ahead to be frank. It’s not ALL about money folks.
The view from the pop side for home fans wasn’t good unless you are 6’ 4”
The tannoy needs adjusting or the bloke who operates it does…
Marriott was MoM
Isaac Marriott was definitely MOM. I couldn't believe it when Amaluzor was announced - they must just let the nearest young kid to the microphone pluck a name out of thin air.
Their additional squad depth definitely helped - they cranked it up a gear when Reid came on, and the goal followed a sustained period of pressure from them - we had nothing to turn to ourselves.
Although - that said - not sure what Sithole's meant to do with 5 minutes plus stoppages.
I do fear that, when Chris Conn-Clarke doesn't show up, we don't show up - the lad can't have a worldy every week, and he obviously can't do it all on his own. I agree that Newby was the only one that looked sharp, and the other three forwards were well off it.
Probably a good reality check, and a reset going into two winnable home games.
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Not that bothered about losing a cup match we are never going to win, romantic yes, but with our good start to the season I would rather get 3 points at Boundary Park in a fortnight and maybe a good run in the trophy.
Dorking up next followed by Kiddy both winnable to keep us on track.
Not sure giving up half the ground to away fans is the way ahead to be frank. It’s not ALL about money folks.
The view from the pop side for home fans wasn’t good unless you are 6’ 4”
The tannoy needs adjusting or the bloke who operates it does…
Marriott was MoM
Isaac Marriott was definitely MOM. I couldn't believe it when Amaluzor was announced - they must just let the nearest young kid to the microphone pluck a name out of thin air.
Their additional squad depth definitely helped - they cranked it up a gear when Reid came on, and the goal followed a sustained period of pressure from them - we had nothing to turn to ourselves.
Although - that said - not sure what Sithole's meant to do with 5 minutes plus stoppages.
I do fear that, when Chris Conn-Clarke doesn't show up, we don't show up - the lad can't have a worldy every week, and he obviously can't do it all on his own. I agree that Newby was the only one that looked sharp, and the other three forwards were well off it.
Probably a good reality check, and a reset going into two winnable home games.
I think the matchday sponsors choose the MoM.
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What was the attendance?
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What was the attendance?
3874 (1115 Oldham)
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Like others say we weren't quite at it yesterday, especially second half. That said we had the better and more chances through the match. Just not clinical enough and lady luck deserted us as the save from the Dior shot was saved onto the cross bar. Newby also had a good chance spurned.
Need to dust ourselves down and move onto Dorking.
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At this point in our season I've got used to saying, often tongue in cheek, that it leaves free to concentrate on the relegation battle.
This season I'm instead hoping that the battle is for a playoff spot.
COYR!!!
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I endorse what 'That Man' says in #31 and will add that overall I think that the best team lost and if we had put our scoring boots on we could have trounced them. Their defence managed to stay ½ second ahead of us getting to the ball and they did this effectively by playing 10 men behind the ball for much of the game and thowing themselves in front of any strikes that we attempted to take.
it will be a different game at Boundary Park in a couple of weeks time in the league. They are aiming to get into the playoffs and will attempt to play a more open attacking game. We may take them apart if we are on form and revenge will be ours.
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I endorse what 'That Man' says in #31 and will add that overall I think that the best team lost and if we had put our scoring boots on we could have trounced them. Their defence managed to stay ½ second ahead of us getting to the ball and they did this effectively by playing 10 men behind the ball for much of the game and thowing themselves in front of any strikes that we attempted to take.
it will be a different game at Boundary Park in a couple of weeks time in the league. They are aiming to get into the playoffs and will attempt to play a more open attacking game. We may take them apart if we are on form and revenge will be ours.
This.
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Oldham defensively were good and we couldn't quite get through them, they set up not to concede and it worked on that occasion. So you could say a traditional away cup game set up and they're through to the next round. Not great to watch but it got the job done for them. Our forwards not quite at their best yesterday as others have mentioned.
A floater near me was moaning about lack of subs but we just don't have a strong enough bench at the moment yet to make a difference unfortunately. Linney starting up top and then a fresh winger to come on in the second half would have been ideal but squad not big enough for an impact sub at the mo.
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We definitely didn't work their keeper enough.
He looked very nervous and made a complete mess of two very average shots in the first half, the second should have been put in on the rebound by Angus.
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i'm not very happy with this "losing to a club as big as" attitude. they are in the same division and sitting in a lower position. number of fans, size of ground, available money to spend, or club history is not how matches get won. no disgrace losing to a club in a similar competitive state would be a better outlook.
(Looking at some of yesterday's results I think we'd be even more cheesed off if they'd gone against us).
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i'm not very happy with this "losing to a club as big as" attitude.
Yes, my flabber was well and truly gasted when I saw/heard that. How can we expect the team to feel the pride generated by the club’s history, the importance of the FA Cup and play with fire in their bellies (all of which were sadly lacking yesterday) when the management capitulates like that?
If that’s how you justify a gutless performance and your own inability to design a plan to break down an 11 man defence then let’s hope the league is soon populated by small clubs whose size will determine the results in our favour.
BTW, if we didn’t spend so long passing the ball around at the back before attempting to find an ever-elusive incisive through-ball, maybe the opposition would be denied the eons to get 11 behind the ball.
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I sort of understand tempering expectations when we're on a good run, which inevitably can't go on forever. But I did find the overegging of the Oldham side this week a bit absurd. They may well have once been seconds away from a cup final, but they're currently what they appeared to be yesterday - a mediocre Conference side waiting for the new manager to sort them out. Still thought we did enough to win, had we taken a chance or two.
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I'm one that's happier to give Oldham credit where it's due - they' defended excellently and their goal came during a period of pressure from them. We all expected us to have more of the ball, and we only have ourselves to blame that the play was too lateral and not incisive enough.
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I was hoping we had seen the last of the over cautious passing back formula that was to the forefront last season but sadly it returned with a vengeance yesterday.. we are never as good when we take an age to get the ball forward. One day the penny will drop. We have played some cracking games this season by not playing the way we did yesterday
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Oldham defensively were good and we couldn't quite get through them, they set up not to concede and it worked on that occasion. So you could say a traditional away cup game set up and they're through to the next round. Not great to watch but it got the job done for them. Our forwards not quite at their best yesterday as others have mentioned.
A floater near me was moaning about lack of subs but we just don't have a strong enough bench at the moment yet to make a difference unfortunately. Linney starting up top and then a fresh winger to come on in the second half would have been ideal but squad not big enough for an impact sub at the mo.
This hits the nail on the head.
Our current squad is threadbare and the bench yesterday didn't include even a single player who could realistically offer an attacking threat.
I thought that the defence performed well, but our front four attacking players all rather failed to shine. Newby and Amaluzor were largely peripheral figures, Angus fluffed his big chance (although credit goes to Hogan for his defensive block) and CCC endured a nightmare.
Unexpectedly, we found ourselves having a chat with the Oldham owner Frank Rothwell in the CSH after the game. Nice chap.
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There’s a lot of talk about moving the ball forward quicker but when a team has set up like Oldham did with 10 men behind the ball, almost every pass isn’t on. The lateral game then becomes inevitable as you need to draw the opposition in to find the space behind their forward/midfield lines or end up playing it long to stick in a 50/50. Oldham setup not to lose and worked hard off the ball, which to be fair to them they did it well. A lucky goal from some poor defensive work from I think Dior/Osbourne allowed the ball to drop in the 6 yard area and a toe poke home. We didn’t deserve to lose but that’s cup footy for you.
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Wholly agree with the last post , their set up presented us with a riddle we are not really accustomed to and they did their job very well. Totally gutted to go out so early yet again , it's now 28 years since our last 3rd round and the income from a long run and possible plum away tie would have given our future ambitions a massive boost.
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pretty sure phil parkinson works on the basis that it works when it works and when it doesn't he'll live with it. that's all well and good over a league campaign, but when it come to knock-out games you've got to mix it up a bit.
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Alex Reid looked as poor on the highlights as he did during the game