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Title: Southend Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 23, 2023, 12:38:23 PM
Hoping Welsh-Hayes is able to play some part.

Be interesting to see if Hugill and/or Linney start.

Alty 2-1 Southend (Hulme,Jones)
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 23, 2023, 01:41:14 PM
Big match, no Oyedelle.

Hopefully MWH back, maybe a new winger if we sign one today. I guess Hulme and Hugill will start. Lundstram back into midfield. Hopefully we'll be looking for 3 points.



Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 23, 2023, 02:00:50 PM
Big match, no Oyedelle.

Hopefully MWH back, maybe a new winger if we sign one today. I guess Hulme and Hugill will start. Lundstram back into midfield. Hopefully we'll be looking for 3 points.

Must have missed that. How come Oyedele is unavailable? (or do you mean you wouldn't pick him for this one?)
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: ManagementGuru on March 23, 2023, 02:16:30 PM
Maxi is playing for Poland in the UEFA U19 Championships
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 23, 2023, 02:50:59 PM
Going to miss Oyedelle, not sure who i ld put there, suspect it will be Osbourne
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on March 23, 2023, 03:40:34 PM
Maxi is playing for Poland in the UEFA U19 Championships

Is not a sentence I expected to read on our forum. Huge miss.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 23, 2023, 04:45:38 PM
Ah yes. Thanks for reminding me! 👍
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 23, 2023, 06:23:00 PM
If Miles Welch-Hayes is available, I guess we could always try Harry Perritt in holding midfield, with Lundstram and Marriott in front of him.

Or, if we're continuing the three at the back experiment, go 343 with Sinclair and Hulme either side of Hugill/Linney.

However I guess the easier thing would be to play Osborne at 10 as we've done in the past.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on March 23, 2023, 07:15:31 PM
Play our strongest 11 on Sat.

Just read Oyedele isn't available. Need him for Halifax.

GK Byrne

RB MWH
CB J.Jones
CB Baines
LB E.Jones

CM Marriott
CM Lundstram

LW Sinclair
RW New Guy ?
10. Hulme

ST Linney


Then big rotation for Tuesday.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on March 23, 2023, 09:40:38 PM
Play our strongest 11 on Sat.

Just read Oyedele isn't available. Need him for Halifax.

GK Byrne

RB MWH
CB J.Jones
CB Baines
LB E.Jones

CM Marriott
CM Lundstram

LW Sinclair
RW New Guy ?
10. Hulme

ST Linney


Then big rotation for Tuesday.

Highly unlikely the new lad from Oldham will get a start when he’s not really featured much there this season. I suspect Osbourne will be a starter.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 23, 2023, 11:06:11 PM
Play our strongest 11 on Sat.

Just read Oyedele isn't available. Need him for Halifax.

GK Byrne

RB MWH
CB J.Jones
CB Baines
LB E.Jones

CM Marriott
CM Lundstram

LW Sinclair
RW New Guy ?
10. Hulme

ST Linney


Then big rotation for Tuesday.

Highly unlikely the new lad from Oldham will get a start when he’s not really featured much there this season. I suspect Osbourne will be a starter.

Jordan's not a number 10 either.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: finnquark1 on March 24, 2023, 08:46:43 AM
Have I missed the email to season ticket holders with the additional ticket? Was going to pass it on to a mate at work.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on March 24, 2023, 11:54:14 AM
Play our strongest 11 on Sat.

Just read Oyedele isn't available. Need him for Halifax.

GK Byrne

RB MWH
CB J.Jones
CB Baines
LB E.Jones

CM Marriott
CM Lundstram

LW Sinclair
RW New Guy ?
10. Hulme

ST Linney


Then big rotation for Tuesday.

Highly unlikely the new lad from Oldham will get a start when he’s not really featured much there this season. I suspect Osbourne will be a starter.

Jordan's not a number 10 either.

Also, not a right winger but has done well out right.

Would have Hulme no.10 over Osborne all day long.

Linney needs to start and given decent minutes, before we shatter his confidence. He should be playing both games, considering he is cup tied.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 24, 2023, 01:37:37 PM
^^^^^^ This (all day long!)
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 24, 2023, 02:13:08 PM
Play our strongest 11 on Sat.

Just read Oyedele isn't available. Need him for Halifax.

GK Byrne

RB MWH
CB J.Jones
CB Baines
LB E.Jones

CM Marriott
CM Lundstram

LW Sinclair
RW New Guy ?
10. Hulme

ST Linney


Then big rotation for Tuesday.

Highly unlikely the new lad from Oldham will get a start when he’s not really featured much there this season. I suspect Osbourne will be a starter.

Jordan's not a number 10 either.

Also, not a right winger but has done well out right.

Would have Hulme no.10 over Osborne all day long.

Linney needs to start and given decent minutes, before we shatter his confidence. He should be playing both games, considering he is cup tied.

Jordan has generally played as a wide forward previously in his career though, where his work rate goes a long way. I don't think he's accomplished enough with the ball at his feet to play 10 at this level - yes I'm sure you think the same about Elliott Osborne but I'm sure the manager would go with that option first.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Randy Konk on March 24, 2023, 07:09:56 PM
Have I missed the email to season ticket holders with the additional ticket? Was going to pass it on to a mate at work.

Mine didn't arrive so emailed club and Bill W sent over the discount code very quickly. Suggest doing the same...
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on March 25, 2023, 02:45:38 PM
1
Byrne O. (G)
6
Baines L.
27
Bennett A.
5
Ferguson K.
39
Hugill J.
9
Hulme J. (C)
2
Jones E.
26
Jones J.
8
Lundstram J.
4
Marriott I.
34
Welch-Hayes M.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on March 25, 2023, 02:46:26 PM
subs
 Burgess L.
29
Linney R.
10
Osborne E.
30
Perritt H.
18
Pringle B
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 25, 2023, 05:06:13 PM
Not a classic, by any stretch of the imagination - between two teams consigned to mid table.

Josh and Isaac magificent, as always - nice to hear the tannoy MOM actually get it right for a change.

MWH and Bennett both looked a little short on match sharpness - but I suppose that was to be expected.

I appreciate that Joe Hugill needs to be given game time, given he's our only option for the Trophy - however you can tell which one has played men's football out of him & Regan Linney - it's as clear as day.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on March 25, 2023, 06:04:13 PM
A win AND a clean sheet-hallelujah.

Definitely rode our luck & on the balance Sarfend will be wondering how exactly they lost that one through some last ditch defending by us & woeful finishing by them.

Marriot & Lundstram ran the show in midfield again & Burgess from Oldham showed promise when he came on. How good is it too to have a bloke in Linney who you have total confidence with on pens, so cool sending their GK the wrong way. Been an age since we’ve had that reliable penalty taker. I thought there were signs from Bennett too that he’s gradually getting there.

Great attendance too, the FZ doing a roaring at HT & so many kids & parents in. A really positive day for our club overall & more to come this week.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on March 25, 2023, 06:07:33 PM
Yeah poor game.
Much better with Marriott and Lundstram CM.
Don't buzz watching us play that formation, really missing us have wingers.Where is Sinclair?
Linney should be starting, he is far more dangerous than Hulme and Hugill.
Big rotation Tuesday. Should give the likes of Bennett, Pringle etc some much needed minutes.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 25, 2023, 06:09:27 PM
As a glass half empty kind of bloke, can I point out the real positive of today's win?
We can now mathematically not finish bottom! 😉 😂😂
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on March 25, 2023, 06:27:51 PM
Poor game and atmosphere tbh.

Rode our luck a tad, thought Baines was superb.3 points is 3 points

Welsh-Hayes was decent enough but Bennett was miles off it.

Striker is going to be an issue next Saturday im afraid. May as well start Hugill on Tues as whoever plays there isn't going to see much of the ball


Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on March 25, 2023, 06:37:16 PM
I'd like to see the penalty again. I thought they both slipped
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 25, 2023, 06:55:34 PM
If I'm not mistaken, that's our first clean sheet in the league since the Oldham game at the end of October and only our third of the season. The other being Aldershot in September?
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Mick on March 25, 2023, 07:09:06 PM
I'd like to see the penalty again. I thought they both slipped
Deffo a penalty
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Leon on March 25, 2023, 07:09:18 PM
If I'm not mistaken, that's our first clean sheet in the league since the Oldham game at the end of October and only our third of the season. The other being Aldershot in September?

We also kept at clean sheet at Bromley back in August.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Mick on March 25, 2023, 07:09:57 PM
Yeah poor game.
Much better with Marriott and Lundstram CM.
Don't buzz watching us play that formation, really missing us have wingers.Where is Sinclair?
Linney should be starting, he is far more dangerous than Hulme and Hugill.
Big rotation Tuesday. Should give the likes of Bennett, Pringle etc some much needed minutes.
Saw Sinclair at HT in stands
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on March 25, 2023, 07:11:02 PM
I'd like to see the penalty again. I thought they both slipped
Deffo a penalty

The handball before that on the CSH side looked a clear pen to me but would like to see the highlights. So justice done on that front I think.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Mick on March 25, 2023, 07:12:19 PM
We will play twice as good and lose.....not a spectacle and as the Cult said to me....scored with our only shot on target
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 25, 2023, 07:18:25 PM
If we could do the same vs Halifax and again at Wembley it'd do for me! 😉
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on March 25, 2023, 07:19:37 PM
If I'm not mistaken, that's our first clean sheet in the league since the Oldham game at the end of October and only our third of the season. The other being Aldershot in September?

We also kept at clean sheet at Bromley back in August.

Ah yes. Forgot that one.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: adzid on March 25, 2023, 07:19:52 PM
Poor game lack of quality from both teams. Not a fan of 532 lack of width really kills us going forward and don't have the wing backs good enough going forward for it to work .
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on March 25, 2023, 07:31:44 PM
Marriott was my MoM that man covers every blade of grass twice in every game. My first game back at ML for a long time. 3 pts is 3 pts
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on March 25, 2023, 07:45:35 PM

We will play twice as good and lose.....not a spectacle and as the Cult said to me....scored with our only shot on target



100% efficiency rate!

Not a memorable game (and I have to say that a draw would have been the fairest outcome) but, nonetheless, I am delighted that we have finally beaten those Essex shysters.

Plus a rare sighting of a clean sheet, too.

Marriott and Lundstram were both excellent (and a tip of the hat to Baines as well) and I fear that our next major challenge is going to comprise retaining both of them.

I always find Non League Day to be a curiously unsettling experience. The attendance invariably increases and yet the atmosphere itself seems to deflate.

As a long-standing grudge-bearer, Rochdale's defeat was the perfect accompaniment to our victory.

 
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on March 25, 2023, 07:47:45 PM
Got away with one there , good , sometimes desperate  ,defending and poor finishing from them and never looked likely to score ourselves , penalty apart . Great three points considering .Both Josh and Isaac superb yet again .  Massive lack of creativety going forward and both the 'H's never got a look in all game .
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: chesteralty on March 25, 2023, 09:02:40 PM
Great quote from Maher after the match, bemoaning their bad luck.
"Ralphy hits the post in the first half, a foot either side and it's in!"
The basic geography of football goalposts is obviously beyond him.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: cheshire cat on March 25, 2023, 09:37:11 PM
But you know what he meant. A draw would have been a fair rezult
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: chesteralty on March 25, 2023, 09:49:07 PM
It would.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on March 25, 2023, 09:49:21 PM
Great quote from Maher after the match, bemoaning their bad luck.
"Ralphy hits the post in the first half, a foot either side and it's in!"
The basic geography of football goalposts is obviously beyond him.

my view about hitting post or cross bar is that you missed. it's nothing to do with luck.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Macsporran on March 26, 2023, 09:27:41 AM
I’m beginning to think that the ‘new’ formation with the 3 Centre Backs is here to stay, certainly with the players we currently have in the squad. It’s making us more solid at the back, albeit Southend did miss some chances. Our first clean sheet for months tells its own story, I’d be amazed to see Parky change it for the semi next week.

Baines was excellent, and Fergie had his best game since coming back to us. I’d love to think we have a chance of signing him permanently next season.

Sinclair was part of the warm up yesterday, I’m sure Parky is getting him right for Halifax. He played a lot of games after virtually nothing at Rochdale, I’m sure there was a reaction to that. Would love to see him flying next Sat.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 26, 2023, 09:48:01 AM
I’m beginning to think that the ‘new’ formation with the 3 Centre Backs is here to stay, certainly with the players we currently have in the squad. It’s making us more solid at the back, albeit Southend did miss some chances. Our first clean sheet for months tells its own story, I’d be amazed to see Parky change it for the semi next week.

Baines was excellent, and Fergie had his best game since coming back to us. I’d love to think we have a chance of signing him permanently next season.

Sinclair was part of the warm up yesterday, I’m sure Parky is getting him right for Halifax. He played a lot of games after virtually nothing at Rochdale, I’m sure there was a reaction to that. Would love to see him flying next Sat.
I agree over the formation when we don't deploy wingers. Pleased with clean sheet yesterday, we got some great blocks in as did they. When not at your best need to find a way to win and we did. Thought Ollie commanded his box better and only had 1 save to make. Could of had another penalty and there player should have seen red for the penalty with a second yellow. Interesting to see the rotation on Tuesday.

Tyrese in my opinion is being rested following a knock he had, hopefully he'll be fit for next Saturday.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Knutty robin on March 26, 2023, 11:06:59 AM
The formation allowed them to press and we had no outlet. I liked the look of Burgess when he came on but I thought he was a winger and was a little surprised not to see him in that position. Could not believe Ferguson did not get penalised for wrapping his arms around forwards.  He needs to watch that
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on March 26, 2023, 01:36:37 PM
They did press us quite high, but I think we dealt with it OK. The extra man certainly helped in that respect, but it did leave us short on options other than sending it back to Ollie or lumping it forward to Joe and Jordan who weren't positioned wide enough to get in behind.

With the absence of Sinclair I think our hand was probably forced a little with the formation - if he's available I do still think we'd go back to 4231, for the home games at the very least I would have thought.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 26, 2023, 07:28:31 PM
Link to Phils thoughts

https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/phil-parkinson-interview-post-southend-win
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on March 26, 2023, 08:54:52 PM
"We need that (something from the Notts Co. game) to take [some confidence] into the Halifax game".

Personally, I'd be a bit worried about resting Marriott and Lundstram and possibly ending up getting well beat and having our confidence affected. Sometimes you have to take a risk.
Title: Re: Southend Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on March 27, 2023, 09:05:27 AM
"We need that (something from the Notts Co. game) to take [some confidence] into the Halifax game".

Personally, I'd be a bit worried about resting Marriott and Lundstram and possibly ending up getting well beat and having our confidence affected. Sometimes you have to take a risk.

I agree, Parky will no doubt work out the calculated risks and know we need to compete against Notts.