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[Ballers]

Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.

Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.

Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.

Correct

Not particularly conducive to building healthy relationships with our fellow clubs though, is it.

It's one game in the grand scheme of things.

What the actual f**k are you on about? Building relationships with other clubs? It’s completely immaterial.

Have you noticed that Chesterfield have put a clause in so that Michael Gyasi cannot play against them tonight? Like with Stockport, that’s a one sided relationship we can do without.

Why is everyone as soft as sh*te?




Although that said, no point wasting too much time on this until we see if Colclough actually lines up against us tonight…

[MarpleAlty]

Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.

Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.

Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.

Correct

Not particularly conducive to building healthy relationships with our fellow clubs though, is it.

It's one game in the grand scheme of things.

What the actual f**k are you on about? Building relationships with other clubs? It’s completely immaterial.

Have you noticed that Chesterfield have put a clause in so that Michael Gyasi cannot play against them tonight? Like with Stockport, that’s a one sided relationship we can do without.

Why is everyone as soft as sh*te?

Although that said, no point wasting too much time on this until we see if Colclough actually lines up against us tonight…

Firstly, building relationships with clubs is exactly the reason why we have players like Chris Conn-Clarke come to us (to give just one example).

Secondly, I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept that Ryan Colclough is their player... and Michael Gyasi isn't ours. I've only ever known of a handful of occasions a loan player has played against their parent club (Lua Lua famously? Courtois against Chelsea because they didn't think about the Champions League?) - and it's usually been met with ridicule at the parent club for being so complacent.

There's only one person here spouting nonsense, and it certainly isn't me.

[Hale Alty]

would be nice to know if the possibility of Ryan NOT playing tonight was even discussed. Maybe it's something you can stipulate on loan deal but not a transfer, but as previously mentioned maybe the date of the transfer could have been arranged for tomorrow.

[MarpleAlty]

would be nice to know if the possibility of Ryan NOT playing tonight was even discussed. Maybe it's something you can stipulate on loan deal but not a transfer, but as previously mentioned maybe the date of the transfer could have been arranged for tomorrow.

It can certainly be discussed, but it would be unusual. Chesterfield have paid good money to us for the privilege of being able to use him without restriction.

Fair play to the board if they've managed it - we know they do drive a hard bargain judging by other club's comments.

[swindellsworth]

Suppose we will never know the exact fee we got - clues anyone ....

[andrewflynn]

Not sure we were exactly in a position of strength in this deal. Ryan had a release clause that Chesterfield met and that was enough to secure the deal. The ball wasn't exactly in our court to start making demands.

[Hale Alty]

couldn't someone have taken the plug off the fax?

[Amsterdam Alty]

We'll defend like trojans, Ollie to have a stormer, CCC 1-0

We let the whole squad in to the penalty area hidden inside Gyasi?

[Ballers]

would be nice to know if the possibility of Ryan NOT playing tonight was even discussed. Maybe it's something you can stipulate on loan deal but not a transfer, but as previously mentioned maybe the date of the transfer could have been arranged for tomorrow.

It can certainly be discussed, but it would be unusual. Chesterfield have paid good money to us for the privilege of being able to use him without restriction.

Fair play to the board if they've managed it - we know they do drive a hard bargain judging by other club's comments.

We’ll have to agree to disagree in general, many clubs stipulate that a player can’t play against them (in the short term). Whether the release clause being met, precludes us (legally or morally) pushing for that I guess is another question as Flynny adds.

But certainly we were doing Chesterfield a favour selling them Colclough as they were giving us money. I don’t consider it unreasonable that we’d have stuck to our guns that he shouldn’t play. It’ll certainly be a bitter pill to swallow should he play tonight while we have Kaja lumbering about because Gyasi is blocked from playing.

We just don’t seem to be strong in any area, either in regards to our own contracted players or the terms of deals attached to loan players. I think that is now extending beyond a mere period of transition to full time football and we need to look at the inner strength of the club and where we are at.

[distancetraveller]

Ryan’s no longer an Alty player I expect chesterfield to play him as and when they want.
Good luck to the bloke.

[TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe]

Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.

Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.

Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.

Correct

Not particularly conducive to building healthy relationships with our fellow clubs though, is it.

It's one game in the grand scheme of things.

What the actual f**k are you on about? Building relationships with other clubs? It’s completely immaterial.

Have you noticed that Chesterfield have put a clause in so that Michael Gyasi cannot play against them tonight? Like with Stockport, that’s a one sided relationship we can do without.

Why is everyone as soft as sh*te?

Although that said, no point wasting too much time on this until we see if Colclough actually lines up against us tonight…

Firstly, building relationships with clubs is exactly the reason why we have players like Chris Conn-Clarke come to us (to give just one example).

Secondly, I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept that Ryan Colclough is their player... and Michael Gyasi isn't ours. I've only ever known of a handful of occasions a loan player has played against their parent club (Lua Lua famously? Courtois against Chelsea because they didn't think about the Champions League?) - and it's usually been met with ridicule at the parent club for being so complacent.

There's only one person here spouting nonsense, and it certainly isn't me.

Some of us recall the mortifying nonsense of Alty allowing Leroy Chambers to play against us whilst he was on loan at Frickley Athletic, whereupon he duly scored two goals:

http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/fricalty.htm

[GolfRoader]

Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.

Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.

Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.

Correct

Not particularly conducive to building healthy relationships with our fellow clubs though, is it.

It's one game in the grand scheme of things.

What the actual f**k are you on about? Building relationships with other clubs? It’s completely immaterial.

Have you noticed that Chesterfield have put a clause in so that Michael Gyasi cannot play against them tonight? Like with Stockport, that’s a one sided relationship we can do without.

Why is everyone as soft as sh*te?

Although that said, no point wasting too much time on this until we see if Colclough actually lines up against us tonight…

Firstly, building relationships with clubs is exactly the reason why we have players like Chris Conn-Clarke come to us (to give just one example).

Secondly, I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept that Ryan Colclough is their player... and Michael Gyasi isn't ours. I've only ever known of a handful of occasions a loan player has played against their parent club (Lua Lua famously? Courtois against Chelsea because they didn't think about the Champions League?) - and it's usually been met with ridicule at the parent club for being so complacent.

There's only one person here spouting nonsense, and it certainly isn't me.

Some of us recall the mortifying nonsense of Alty allowing Leroy Chambers to play against us whilst he was on loan at Frickley Athletic, whereupon he duly scored two goals:

http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/fricalty.htm

Attendance of 223! Dark times indeed. We'd probably take that number ourselves to Frickley these days.

[Hale Alty]

looking to see if bbc local radio in derbyshire was covering our game tonight (they aren't)  and i notice that radio manchester is covering NON-LEAGUE oldham's game at york tonight. they didn't cover stockport in non-league, and they don't cover altrincham, so how come they are still covering oldham?

[GolfRoader]

I was caught out by this last year but Chesterfield, despite being in Derbyshire, are covered by BBC radio Sheffield. Our game is live on there tonight.

[AltyNotFaulty]

Ryan’s on the bench!