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[teasybeaver]

Gary,

I don't understand - both Crawley and Scarborough were deducted 10 points for going into Administration.  Treated the same just depended upon where they were in the league at the time of the deduction.

Not true although Accrington are a northern team so its not a north/south thing cos they seem to have the fa silver spoon in their mouths too!

However Crawley have been blatantly flouting the rules of admin since it happened and they are laughing in the face of their own fans and every club who fights to survive week in week out!

Crawley didnt get relegated either, scarboro's 10 points wouldnt have left them below alty. To me it seems ridiculous, that they treated scarboro and crawley so differently, even if it did keep us up!

Fair play to AFC Wimbledon, I wouldnt want most clubs to go through what we did last season, them included, so its a nice ending. But for f**ks sake, how can our circumstances be any less UNUSUAL than theirs! We got our player from an English club! Is that not UNUSUAL in an International Clearance case in England???

Football is officially on its arse!

[Altysmiffy]

The FA reason/excuse* is bull$&%^

*delete as applicable

[Zigga Zagga Freddy]

Gary,

I don't understand - both Crawley and Scarborough were deducted 10 points for going into Administration.  Treated the same just depended upon where they were in the league at the time of the deduction.

              Scarborough were first relegated, and then deducted 10 points for administration, so the deduction was enforced in this season, in the Conf North.
         

[Hemel Dave]

I think we are maybe being a bit paranoid about Accrington.  I suspect it more West Ham that they are trying to set a precedent for.

[Beez]

Is there anyway in which we can appeal for some sort of compensation now that this has happened? not really fair that we got slapped with a £1000 fine and 18 points when 10 months later wimbledon get the same punishment reduced! that said im glad that wimbledon have had their penalty reduced. not sure id have quite the same sentiments were we toiling away in nationwide north this season.

[gazwarrington]

But they were relegated because of those 'breach of rules' so got punished in that season (season we stayed up even though we finished below them with the 18 point deduction) so why punish AGAIN in a new season ?

But the point is that IF they have enforced the rules so strictly for them then why are Crawley allowed to drag this on for as long as they have ?

Either way it seems that certain clubs get better treated than others. Thats my opinion. Maybe its cos AFC Wimbledon are a 'fans club' and all that as well ?

Sorry but I really couldn't care less about any other club, if I did I'd join all the supporters trusts \ membership schemes and live in one big happy footballing community but thats just not for me, but when some other club gets off with something very similair to what we got punished for then it just seems unfair and I can't believe its happened... Sorry I CAN believe its happened to be fair as the English FA are a joke and another reason to not support the national side as they are representatives of them.

Anyway rant over. I'm sure my views have been put across.

suspect it more West Ham that they are trying to set a precedent for.
Knew there'd be a Southern team to be saved. 

[casper]

I think this whole thing stinks. Our appeal was turned down due to "no merits" yet AFC Wimbledon have theirs upheld and penalty reduced. Something is not quite right here! Although i am very happy for AFC wimbledon, i am stunned that the FA have acted in this way. How can they dish out different punishments for the same offence?

Even taking the rules are rules angle, the FA comment that Ryman League DID NOT mis-interpret the rules and acted accordingly (18pts docked)
so why reduce the penalty?? It seems rather strange and shows the FA making rules up as they go along.

[gazwarrington]

So how the hell are the FA going to deal with Accrington? Surely they have made it more difficult for themselves as they can't use "Rules are Rules" as they are clearly not and Stanley coudl just use AFC Wimbledon as an example to not lose points were as the FA COULD have easily just used us (and AFC Wimbledon if they had the guts) to uphold it.

I can't figure out how the FA can now get away with punishing Accrington as that would seem unfair on them as AFC Wimbledon got away with it. I suppose it could depend how each league interprets the rules ?

[York Alty]

Delighted that Wimbledon were treated far better than us.

Legally we're in an odd position.  If we had the cash I'd say take this all the way but as we don't let's just be pragmatic about it. 

Leave it, move on.

Fingers crossed Stanley get whacked though.

[radcliffe alty]

I am very much looking forward to John Laidlar's thinly velied sarcasm and incredulity when he reports this on the official site.

Mr Laidlar doesn't let us down yet again! I think he sums up how many of us are feeling very well. Can we send him down to the FA and see what damage and embarrassment he can cause? 

From Altrinchamfc.com:

F.A.RCE
The BBC reports that "AFC Wimbledon have had their points deduction reduced from 18 to three by an FA appeal board. In February the Ryman League appeals committee had handed out the more severe sanction for fielding a player without international clearance. The Dons had already been expelled from the FA Trophy for utilising midfielder Jermaine Darlington. Originally they had points taken off for the 11 games in which the former Cardiff player featured for them. The £400 fine imposed upon the club for breaching three league rules has not been reduced. The appeal board ruled that, although the Ryman League had not misinterpreted its rules on eligibility and the decision to deduct 18 points was wholly in accordance with those rules, given the specific and unusual circumstances the deduction of 18 points was excessive".
Altrincham had 18 points deducted last season when James Robinson's former club failed to get international clearance before he joined us. One wonders what the "specific and unusual circumstances" may be in the AFC Wimbledon case; surely the fact that prime minister Tony Blair expressed his support for AFC recently in the House of Commons has nothing to do with it? Also Altrincham got fined £1,000 not £400.

Whilst pleased that AFC Wimbledon have had their sentence lightened where is the consistency in this? Most importantly, it was so obvious when we got clobbered by the FA last year that the problem would rear its head again because the FA did nothing to prevent that happening. And it will happen again...

So Altrincham are left with a record that shows them having finished bottom of the league last season when they did not - will the FA do anything about that?

And a year after our debacle, the BBC reports that "Accrington Stanley have lodged an appeal against the dismissal of striker David Brown in Saturday's vital 2-0 victory over Hereford United. Brown scored against his former club to help Stanley secure a second successive win before being sent off for a late foul on Danny Thomas. However, Accrington hope to get the decision overturned. Meanwhile, Accrington face a hearing on Friday to answer the League's charge of fielding ineligible players".

[gazwarrington]

Delighted that Wimbledon were treated far better than us.
Can't say I agree and certainly would not agree if it was Redditch we were playing tomo in the conference north.

The FA Should have changed the rules after what happened to us but they didn't, all they seem to have done is change the rules depending on who you are when it should be the same for all.

Stanley can't get docked now as far as I see it as that wouldn't be fair on them. The FA have made that decision very easy for themselves.

I don't understand how the points can be 'reduced' Surely you are either guilty or not guilty and there is no grey area or else that means you could just think of a number and dock as many or little points as you please.

Its all a big joke but at the moment I don't see the funny side

[casper]

Its hard to see what the FA are thinking, they will never say what the different cicumstances are between alty and AFC Wim. As far as i can see the decision further reduces (if its even possible) the credibility of the FA.

Again this decision poses more questions, many of which will go unanswered.

[Hemel Dave]

The more I think about it, the more I think they have one eye on the West Ham situation who are up for a similar offence.

They can't be seen to mete out a similar punishment to Wet Spam as they did to Alty because it would be so high profile.  If we caused a minor ripple with our situation, then Wet Spam would create a tidal wave, such is the Premier League's interest worldwide.  Plus Wet Spam would have the clout and resource to challenge the decision, through the courts if neccessary that we evidently didn't.   This would show the FA up to be the incompetent T**ts that they really are.

This way they can just give them a small points deduction and cite AFC Wimbledon as the example. 

[casper]

The more I think about it, the more I think they have one eye on the West Ham situation who are up for a similar offence.

I thought the FA were charging the hammers with breaches of the transfer system. not fielding a player without international clearence. Im looking towards Accrington, and what the FA will do there. The more i think about it, the more the whole thing stinks. There is a rule, it was broken, there is the punishment end of story...

I thnk the club should query the decision through the FA. With no malice intended, sinmply to say "we were docked 18 pts for this, they were docked 3pts, why is there a 15pts difference between punishments for the same offence?"

It also seems that the press view is that the punishment was over-excessive in teh first place, but despite the high profile we recieved last season, none are actually saying "look, this happened to them, they were docked 18pts, why the difference?".

Overall, im not impressed with the FA at all - they simply know how to mess everything up.

[WotaWally]

Can I just say as an AFC Wimbledon Womble that I really feel for you guys at the moment. You should have had a similar punishment last year, or less. I, and many other AFCW supporters signed your petition little thinking we would be in the same position a year later. Thanks to all of you that signed our petition and showed support - we all appreciate it. I would love to see somebody take your case to court now to claim compensation from the FA; little chance of winning though.
Hopefully the rules will now be clarified and no other club will be put in the position that you an us have been in through an admin error, rather than blatent cheating like Boston.
Thanks again for your support, and the best of luck on and off the pitch.

Colin