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Title: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on October 05, 2020, 10:55:18 AM
Notts Co 2/5
Draw 7/2
Alty 7/1

Great value being 7/1 in a two horse race. And 7/2 for the draw decent also

Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 05, 2020, 11:31:49 AM
Don't know why (probably delusional rabid Altyitis) but I do fancy us to get something out of this game.





PS.
Wonder what odds are on offer for Notts County 0 Alty 1 (Peers) 😉?
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on October 05, 2020, 11:36:36 AM
This is a good test to see where we are at, and what areas need attention.

Anything is possible with regards to the result. Players need to treat as any old match and not the occasion of playing in a large stadium.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 05, 2020, 12:03:56 PM
What are people thinking in terms of the team?

Given Toby is showing some glimpses of some real quality, could we look to slot Sutton in and push everyone a position up the pitch?

I know Williams hasn't had much of a go at No10 for us, but that's where he's excelled for other clubs and could work well.

Similarly we know Hanks can play up top, and against opposition like this we need someone who's going to be able to hold the ball up (as well as knowing where the net is).

              Thompson

Dens  Sutton  Hannigan  White

          Mullarkey  Moult

    Ceesay  Williams  Kosylo

                Hancock
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on October 05, 2020, 12:08:34 PM
Before thinking about the outcome, I spent half an hour reflecting on the fact that we are facing Notts. County in the league. Putting aside the fall they've had for now this game is a fantastic testimony to the work the management team, players, board and fans have put in over the past few years. Thank you.

One all draw.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: AltyFan101 on October 05, 2020, 12:29:31 PM
Thompson
Densmore
Mullarkey
Hannigan
White
Moult
Richman
Peers
Kosylo
Ceesay
Clayton
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: AltyFan101 on October 05, 2020, 12:29:59 PM
Thompson
Densmore
Mullarkey
Hannigan
White
Moult
Richman
Peers
Kosylo
Ceesay
Clayton

Mooney for Peers if available but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on October 05, 2020, 01:08:40 PM
Thompson
Densmore
Mullarkey
Hannigan
White
Moult
Richman
Peers
Kosylo
Ceesay
Clayton

Mooney for Peers if available but I doubt it.


What no Hanks?
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 05, 2020, 01:19:49 PM
I'd go:
             Thompson

Densmore Sutton  Hannigan  White

          Richman Moult

    Peers Hancock Kosylo

                Cisse

Harsh to drop Mallarky, but wondering if Sutton's experience would be good here, not a game to trial him in CM for the first game, especially as Richman is traditionally good on big away pitched (Boston, Lincoln, Grimsby) so gets the nod against Williams and Mallarky.

Cisse up top to get in behind and stretch them Let Hancock and Kosylo pull the strings to get in behind.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 05, 2020, 01:35:55 PM
I'd go:
             Thompson

Densmore Sutton  Hannigan  White

          Richman Moult

    Peers Hancock Kosylo

                Cisse

Harsh to drop Mallarky, but wondering if Sutton's experience would be good here. Richman traditionally good on big away pitched (Boston, Lincoln, Grimsby) so gets the nod against Williams

Cisse up top to get in behind and stretch them Let Hancock and Kosylo pull the strings to get in behind.

Almost the same from me but I'd be tempted to pick Mullarkey instead of peers and drop him in the midfield
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on October 05, 2020, 02:03:33 PM
I'd go with the MarpleAlty team above. Yes, it's not Josh's most effective position at number 9 but we'd be very difficult to break down with that team.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 05, 2020, 02:12:33 PM
'Harsh to drop Malarkey'!

It would be outrageous

Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 05, 2020, 03:14:06 PM
'Harsh to drop Malarkey'!

It would be outrageous


We've essentially got three first choice CBs. One with ample experience in the conference the other just a single game in which he did well.

Sutton is an expensive and experienced player to warm the bench for six months. We may move Mallarky in to midfield on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on October 05, 2020, 03:34:34 PM
Wouldn't surprise me to see Dens on the bench with Hampson coming in. Dens did nothing wrong on Saturday and his energy levels were good, I just think PP might manage him as an older player and not give him 2 games in 4 days.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 05, 2020, 04:19:59 PM
Apparently they insist on playing it out of the back, and get done by a high press.  On that basis, it would have been a top assignment for Jordan  >:(

I think Ceesay up top wouldn't be the best idea, to be honest - I think we need someone of Hancock's quality up there to make the ball stick for us.

Same re: dropping Mullarkey - not sure the experience thing can be held against him when we threw him into the playoffs headfirst and saw how he fared.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 05, 2020, 04:22:39 PM
I'd go with the MarpleAlty team above. Yes, it's not Josh's most effective position at number 9 but we'd be very difficult to break down with that team.

I've got this hunch that he'd be a bit of a revelation there, plus I think we'll find it easier backfilling his own role than finding someone to replace Jordan at short notice.

All we can do is play the hand we've been dealt currently, I think it would be worth a go.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 05, 2020, 04:47:06 PM
Apparently they insist on playing it out of the back, and get done by a high press.  On that basis, it would have been a top assignment for Jordan  >:(

I think Ceesay up top wouldn't be the best idea, to be honest - I think we need someone of Hancock's quality up there to make the ball stick for us.

Same re: dropping Mullarkey - not sure the experience thing can be held against him when we threw him into the playoffs headfirst and saw how he fared.

Seeing Cisse at York and Chorley when he can carry the ball from deep or knock the ball in to channels and catch it, shows an alternative option.
I'd have moved him through the middle of Saturday when the channels were waterlogged. Plus PP remarked Cisse wasn't just a winger and a potential plan B.
If you look at the goal (we should have but got a pen) against Chester, that was a ball that we burst through, and Cisse could do the same - against slower CBs.

As for Mallarky, we had no other option in the playoffs. It's similar to when we had Havern Marshall and Leather last time, we opted to interchange based on the game ahead. We're playing twice a week for several weeks so I do expect we'll need to be able to rotate our CBs and FBs - especially on heavy pitches and with long travel time.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 05, 2020, 05:07:08 PM
I'd go:
             Thompson

Densmore Sutton  Hannigan  White

          Richman Moult

    Peers Hancock Kosylo

                Cisse

Harsh to drop Mallarky, but wondering if Sutton's experience would be good here, not a game to trial him in CM for the first game, especially as Richman is traditionally good on big away pitched (Boston, Lincoln, Grimsby) so gets the nod against Williams and Mallarky.

Cisse up top to get in behind and stretch them Let Hancock and Kosylo pull the strings to get in behind.




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Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on October 05, 2020, 05:12:55 PM
Thompson

Dens
Hampson
Malarkey
Hannigan

Moult
Williams

Peers( better out wide than up top and he grafts )
Kosylo
Hancock

Ceesay ( up front - not many will catch him)
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 05, 2020, 06:50:57 PM
I'd go:
             Thompson

Densmore Sutton  Hannigan  White

          Richman Moult

    Peers Hancock Kosylo

                Cisse

Harsh to drop Mallarky, but wondering if Sutton's experience would be good here, not a game to trial him in CM for the first game, especially as Richman is traditionally good on big away pitched (Boston, Lincoln, Grimsby) so gets the nod against Williams and Mallarky.

Cisse up top to get in behind and stretch them Let Hancock and Kosylo pull the strings to get in behind.




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Wish he had No Peers.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: AltyFan101 on October 05, 2020, 07:08:07 PM
Thompson
Densmore
Mullarkey
Hannigan
White
Moult
Richman
Peers
Kosylo
Ceesay
Clayton

Mooney for Peers if available but I doubt it.


What no Hanks?

Oops 🤦‍♂️ what've I done.  Obviously Hanks starts, probably over Peers for me.
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 05, 2020, 07:13:53 PM
Same starting 11 as Sat but Hampson for White I reckon
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: AltyFan101 on October 05, 2020, 07:24:04 PM
Dropping Mullarkey or Hannigan would be a strange decision and one I don't see Parky doing & I don't think this is the game for Mullarkey to be played in midfield, he is unlikely to get the amount of time on the ball to be properly effective in that role.  I would also say Joel Senior's pace would be very useful against Notts' quick attack and I think that will be weighed up against Densmore's experience in these kind of games.  Same for White/Hampson.  Richman or Williams is also interesting but maybe Parky will opt for Richman's slightly better defensive ability in a game that we will likely be doing most of the defending.  Mentioned it the other day that I'd like to see Clayton in that kind of playmaker striker role and I also think it would be beneficial to have two narrow wingers pressing their defence if they are keen to play it out along the floor.  On Saturday, Ceesay looked very good at recovering the ball which could be massive for us on Wednesday.

                   Thompson(GK)

Senior  Mullarkey  Hannigan  Hampson

            Richman      Moult(c)

                    Hancock

                     Clayton
    Kosylo                          Ceesay
          
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 05, 2020, 07:30:13 PM
We'd be overrun in midfield with that side imho
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: AltyFan101 on October 05, 2020, 07:31:43 PM
We'd be overrun in midfield with that side imho

Can't see who makes the midfield better unless you start Williams over Clayton?
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 05, 2020, 07:36:34 PM
We'd be overrun in midfield with that side imho

Can't see who makes the midfield better unless you start Williams over Clayton?

Think he'll stick with Williams
Title: Re: Notts County - Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 05, 2020, 08:36:05 PM
We'd be overrun in midfield with that side imho

Can't see who makes the midfield better unless you start Williams over Clayton?

Certainly that; also, Sutton for Mullarkey who moves up to replace Richman.