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Title: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Knutsford Alty on September 13, 2021, 10:41:10 AM
Hi All,

Anyone know the information with tickets for Yeovil Away next Saturday? Is there a saving beforehand booking up front or can you pay on the door?

Looking on their website, pre-booking tickets looks like it is postage or collection at their ground.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: hsmith1 on September 13, 2021, 02:08:58 PM
you can buy on the day from the ticket office at the ground,but its an extra £2 per ticket.I have bought mine this morning and paid the extra 80 pence postage,its a pity that you cannot print them off online like the Torquay ones were.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Mick on September 13, 2021, 07:02:50 PM
If anyone got non- refundable accommodation booked.....please PM me.....I have a close friend who is hoping to travel down to Yeovil for the game they have rearranged with Chesterfield FC
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Hugh on September 13, 2021, 11:40:18 PM
Now no longer required, And you wonder why I prefer to pay on the gate!
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: hsmith1 on September 15, 2021, 03:39:33 PM
i ordered my ticket on Monday morning,then the game gets called off.Tuesday had an email from Yeovil asking if i wanted a refund or to carry the tickets over.Ticket arrived Wednesday and i decided to contact Yeovil and to carry the ticket over to when we do play them,Its only just over the hour away so can go midweek if need be.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: RockyRobin on September 16, 2021, 10:46:23 AM
Now no longer required, And you wonder why I prefer to pay on the gate!

Hugh, get over it please.

No one is arsed about it apart from you and you quite obviously are not affected so what's the issue?
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Hugh on September 17, 2021, 02:36:47 AM
I have my doubts. I'm pretty sure it would have been a different crowd against Dover if you had to get tickets in advance. I seem to remember going to Southport (and probably other places - King's Lynn?) and you had to find a ticket office, queue up for a ticket, and then queue up again to get in, and I thought, this is a right hassle. And if you do it by phone and have to spend time giving your details, or do it over the internet and likewise give your details plus spend several minutes turning a computer on, it's still a hassle compared to a couple of seconds to pay on the gate after deciding at a quarter to three that one fancies going. The whole point of non-league football is it's supposed to be free of the hassle of watching big clubs. This is something new in my my time watching Alty (apart from the occasional game, as indicated), and it's the first few games of this new situation. What's the big rush to move on?

As I say, I have no problem with other people doing this, and the Dover match was no problem, but one has to recognise that everyone's situation is different and ideally try and cater for this so far as possible, and I personally will in general not go to away matches if I can't pay on the day, or for that matter if I can't go on standing terraces. My money, my choice.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: RolfGoad on September 17, 2021, 06:19:37 AM
Cash handed from one person to another carries germs. It’s fine that some people can only use cash, but it’s on its way out, with good reason.

Cashless is safer. Plain fact.

Here’s a link for you, there are hundreds though:

https://www.insider.com/does-money-carry-germs
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: CRT Butty on September 17, 2021, 06:51:45 AM
Cash handed from one person to another carries germs. It’s fine that some people can only use cash, but it’s on its way out, with good reason.

Cashless is safer. Plain fact.

Here’s a link for you, there are hundreds though:

https://www.insider.com/does-money-carry-germs

It should be put out of its misery.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: andrewflynn on September 17, 2021, 07:57:13 AM
I have my doubts. I'm pretty sure it would have been a different crowd against Dover if you had to get tickets in advance. I seem to remember going to Southport (and probably other places - King's Lynn?) and you had to find a ticket office, queue up for a ticket, and then queue up again to get in, and I thought, this is a right hassle. And if you do it by phone and have to spend time giving your details, or do it over the internet and likewise give your details plus spend several minutes turning a computer on, it's still a hassle compared to a couple of seconds to pay on the gate after deciding at a quarter to three that one fancies going. The whole point of non-league football is it's supposed to be free of the hassle of watching big clubs. This is something new in my my time watching Alty (apart from the occasional game, as indicated), and it's the first few games of this new situation. What's the big rush to move on?

As I say, I have no problem with other people doing this, and the Dover match was no problem, but one has to recognise that everyone's situation is different and ideally try and cater for this so far as possible, and I personally will in general not go to away matches if I can't pay on the day, or for that matter if I can't go on standing terraces. My money, my choice.

Is it?

It’s that sort of thinking that holds clubs in these leagues back.

It might work for a Witton or a Wythenshawe Town but we’re bigger than marketing ourselves that way. We need to cherry pick the modern features that the majority of fans want, like online ticketing, better sponsor facilities, and a better kit supplier - all three of which have been massively successful for the club so far.

Non-league clubs need to get out of the mindset that their role is to be there as an alternative at 2:45pm if John United fancies watching.

We’re here to convert people into Altrincham fans by catering to their modern expectations whilst maintaining some of the traditional quirks that make us an attractive alternative. It’s the natural progression of clubs at this level, in keeping with the way the developed world is moving.

Do it or be left behind, playing in front of 400 old men and ground hoppers, wondering why the town doesn’t back you.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: RockyRobin on September 17, 2021, 09:05:05 AM
Cash handed from one person to another carries germs. It’s fine that some people can only use cash, but it’s on its way out, with good reason.

Cashless is safer. Plain fact.

Here’s a link for you, there are hundreds though:

https://www.insider.com/does-money-carry-germs

Whilst I think Hugh is over thinking the problems of advance tickets you neurotic thoughts about cash are so far from reality its quite scary.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: HashtagAlty on September 17, 2021, 09:23:20 AM
I have my doubts. I'm pretty sure it would have been a different crowd against Dover if you had to get tickets in advance. I seem to remember going to Southport (and probably other places - King's Lynn?) and you had to find a ticket office, queue up for a ticket, and then queue up again to get in, and I thought, this is a right hassle. And if you do it by phone and have to spend time giving your details, or do it over the internet and likewise give your details plus spend several minutes turning a computer on, it's still a hassle compared to a couple of seconds to pay on the gate after deciding at a quarter to three that one fancies going. The whole point of non-league football is it's supposed to be free of the hassle of watching big clubs. This is something new in my my time watching Alty (apart from the occasional game, as indicated), and it's the first few games of this new situation. What's the big rush to move on?

As I say, I have no problem with other people doing this, and the Dover match was no problem, but one has to recognise that everyone's situation is different and ideally try and cater for this so far as possible, and I personally will in general not go to away matches if I can't pay on the day, or for that matter if I can't go on standing terraces. My money, my choice.

Is it?

It’s that sort of thinking that holds clubs in these leagues back.

It might work for a Witton or a Wythenshawe Town but we’re bigger than marketing ourselves that way. We need to cherry-pick the modern features that the majority of fans want, like online ticketing, better sponsor facilities, and a better kit supplier - all three of which have been massively successful for the club so far.

Non-league clubs need to get out of the mindset that their role is to be there as an alternative at 2:45 pm if John United fancies watching.

We’re here to convert people into Altrincham fans by catering to their modern expectations whilst maintaining some of the traditional quirks that make us an attractive alternative. It’s the natural progression of clubs at this level, in keeping with the way the developed world is moving.

Do it or be left behind, playing in front of 400 old men and groundhoppers, wondering why the town doesn’t back you.

We should always allow pay on the day. The day we start having to apply for allocations for away tickets, or entering ballots is the day Altrincham stops being for me.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: andrewflynn on September 17, 2021, 09:28:34 AM
I have my doubts. I'm pretty sure it would have been a different crowd against Dover if you had to get tickets in advance. I seem to remember going to Southport (and probably other places - King's Lynn?) and you had to find a ticket office, queue up for a ticket, and then queue up again to get in, and I thought, this is a right hassle. And if you do it by phone and have to spend time giving your details, or do it over the internet and likewise give your details plus spend several minutes turning a computer on, it's still a hassle compared to a couple of seconds to pay on the gate after deciding at a quarter to three that one fancies going. The whole point of non-league football is it's supposed to be free of the hassle of watching big clubs. This is something new in my my time watching Alty (apart from the occasional game, as indicated), and it's the first few games of this new situation. What's the big rush to move on?

As I say, I have no problem with other people doing this, and the Dover match was no problem, but one has to recognise that everyone's situation is different and ideally try and cater for this so far as possible, and I personally will in general not go to away matches if I can't pay on the day, or for that matter if I can't go on standing terraces. My money, my choice.

Is it?

It’s that sort of thinking that holds clubs in these leagues back.

It might work for a Witton or a Wythenshawe Town but we’re bigger than marketing ourselves that way. We need to cherry-pick the modern features that the majority of fans want, like online ticketing, better sponsor facilities, and a better kit supplier - all three of which have been massively successful for the club so far.

Non-league clubs need to get out of the mindset that their role is to be there as an alternative at 2:45 pm if John United fancies watching.

We’re here to convert people into Altrincham fans by catering to their modern expectations whilst maintaining some of the traditional quirks that make us an attractive alternative. It’s the natural progression of clubs at this level, in keeping with the way the developed world is moving.

Do it or be left behind, playing in front of 400 old men and groundhoppers, wondering why the town doesn’t back you.

We should always allow pay on the day. The day we start having to apply for allocations for away tickets, or entering ballots is the day Altrincham stops being for me.

If I can hop on the met up to the Etihad tomorrow and grab a ticket for City v Southampton from their ticket office I don't think fans of Altrincham have anything to be immediately worried about to be honest.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: altrincham on September 17, 2021, 11:00:23 AM
Just to throw my 2 pence in like a lot of part timers who cant make a lot of games these days I am always trying to drag different mates down and paying on the day makes it much more likely to get a few in on the day than paying £17 in advance.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: ManagementGuru on September 17, 2021, 12:20:13 PM
Just an illustration from the Dover game.

Of the 1800 home fans, around 1000 bought tickets in in advance (including season ticket holders) and 800 paid cash on the day. 

Its only a couple of seasons since 800 was all we would get.  So we handled what was a normal crowd of few years ago paying on the door and normal crowd from the following season buying in advance.

The only way we can regularly handle crowds of this size, and we want them to become the norm, is if a substantial number buy in advance.

When we brought in e-ticketing, I made it clear we would not move away from cash payments on the day.  And this remains the case - unless of course legislation intervenes to prevent this.

As many home fans as possible, and catering for all preferences in terms of them getting access.  But more and more converting to advance purchase because this makes it easier for everyone. 
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: RockyRobin on September 17, 2021, 01:49:50 PM
Yep and as Moss Lane isn't exactly over loaded with cash machines the option of cashless is a great option to have if you have travelled to the area not from the town centre as many do.

I really wish people could thing outside of what they do; it's not a great leap forwards.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Hugh on September 17, 2021, 10:18:45 PM
Cash handed from one person to another carries germs. It’s fine that some people can only use cash, but it’s on its way out, with good reason.

Cashless is safer. Plain fact.

Here’s a link for you, there are hundreds though:

https://www.insider.com/does-money-carry-germs

My bottom line is that we should give people the choice of what they want to do so far as possible - which to be fair we are doing, so it's fine.
I heard that most bank notes have traces of drugs on them. And then there's train seats...

In any case, excessive sanitation also carries health risks; and there's issues with a cashless society. But that's another story..
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: hsmith1 on September 18, 2021, 11:21:52 AM
i prefer to PAY at the gate,but had no option for yeovil or torquay
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Sarf London Alty on September 18, 2021, 11:43:44 AM
Re pay on the gate vs advance tickets, I read on the Blyth Spartans site ahead of their cup tie with FCUM today that they are also encouraging advance tickets. They estimate in one minute they can scan in 16 people with advance tickets versus four paying with cash. That’s Bill’s point I guess when 500 people turn up at 245 vs Notts County next Saturday. I think increasingly it’s the future but I understand whose who still want pay on the gate but from an organisational and planning POV as we play these games against your Notts, Stockports, Wrexham’s etc then buying in advance makes the clubs job so much easier.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Freddie on September 18, 2021, 11:45:29 AM
Exactly correct, we must cater for everyone.

A lot of mates I go with to games aren't full time Alty fans like those of us who post on here, so quite simply aren't organised or motivated enough to buy tickets in advance.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Hugh on September 18, 2021, 08:40:53 PM
1 cash payment in 15 seconds average? Some people must be taking ages!

Speaking for myself, I'm just generally not organised or motivated. :)

I remember last season when I had to start my "journey" to the page for the online coverage earlier than I'd sometimes left to watch the match live!

Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: ManagementGuru on September 18, 2021, 08:58:01 PM
I can confirm the Blyth numbers.  When we started the trial of e-tickets in the 2019-20 season, we found that we could get three times as many people through with e-tickets as we could cash payments.  Specifically around 5 a minute for cash and around 15 a minute for scanners.

Also if things get really tight we can open a gate and let people with e-tickets through en masse.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Hugh on September 18, 2021, 09:44:54 PM
That's longer than I thought to be fair, and probably longer than I would take, but how long would it take me to buy a ticket and get entry without a smart phone (assuming this is possible)?
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: ManagementGuru on September 18, 2021, 09:48:23 PM
You can buy a ticket, it gets e-mailed to you and you then print it out.

It doesn't take too long, although probably more than 15 seconds to be fair!
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: RolfGoad on September 19, 2021, 01:03:51 PM
Cash handed from one person to another carries germs. It’s fine that some people can only use cash, but it’s on its way out, with good reason.

Cashless is safer. Plain fact.

Here’s a link for you, there are hundreds though:

https://www.insider.com/does-money-carry-germs

Whilst I think Hugh is over thinking the problems of advance tickets you neurotic thoughts about cash are so far from reality its quite scary.

It’s plain fact 🤷🏻

I get that people aren’t going to be dropping dead from paying for a footy ticket with cash, but cash does, and always has carried germs.

When you have someone handling entry money received directly from several hundred people during a worldwide pandemic, it’s not as safe as not coming into contact with it. (I don’t need my degree in molecular biology to help me with that)

That said, cashless just isn’t an option for some people yet, and so the option of paying cash has to be there.

Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: wayno on September 19, 2021, 11:10:56 PM
I can't believe I am writing this on a football forum . Germs exist on cash well I never . Next people will be telling me germs are air Bourne and are all around us and on our hands and faces .

We cant hold back the tide none of us can

It's like no one dies of anything else anymore . The air we breath it's self is contaminated. Should we stop breathing?

Good night x
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Mick on September 19, 2021, 11:30:29 PM
I can't believe I am writing this on a football forum . Germs exist on cash well I never . Next people will be telling me germs are air Bourne and are all around us and on our hands and faces .

We cant hold back the tide none of us can

It's like no one dies of anything else anymore . The air we breath it's self is contaminated. Should we stop breathing?

Good night x

Beer glasses, door handles, pens and park benches....nothing is safe anymore. We all know cash can be dirty and that is why we were taught to keep fingers out of our mouths at school and to wash our hands...a school where we shared PE kit if you forgot yours on purpose to avoid an hours cross country when it was snowing and minus five....smile.

PS......can you still catch VD from a pub toilet seat
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Hugh on September 20, 2021, 03:28:02 AM
I would be prepared to use a contactless debit card for entry, something I have often done at the beer bar (now in the fan zone), and which I assume would allow faster entry similar to the ticketing system. I still think a cash option should be available if possible though. I know there are people who prefer to pay with cash as a matter of principle, for example. However, I rarely use a printer and don't have a smart phone, so it would mean quite a lot of hassle for me personally under the current ticketing system. Is the club considering a bank card payment option (on the turnstiles I mean)?
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: wayno on September 20, 2021, 07:16:59 AM
I can't believe I am writing this on a football forum . Germs exist on cash well I never . Next people will be telling me germs are air Bourne and are all around us and on our hands and faces .

We cant hold back the tide none of us can

It's like no one dies of anything else anymore . The air we breath it's self is contaminated. Should we stop breathing?

Good night x

Beer glasses, door handles, pens and park benches....nothing is safe anymore. We all know cash can be dirty and that is why we were taught to keep fingers out of our mouths at school and to wash our hands...a school where we shared PE kit if you forgot yours on purpose to avoid an hours cross country when it was snowing and minus five....smile.

PS......can you still catch VD from a pub toilet seat
on the VD question back in the 80s that also stopped teams getting to wemberly... I recall 😆
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 20, 2021, 09:03:08 AM
I'll use my own example here...

I turned up at the Dover game at 2:55pm (my bad), only to encounter a queue for the turnstyles stretching round Golf Road and getting on towards the Community Hall entrance.

So I got my phone out, went to the club website, bought my ticket (which immediately landed in my Gmail), flashed it to the steward on the big side gate and strolled straight in. Whole process took about 30 seconds.*

If you're on Android and/or use Google Chrome, you can auto-fill all your contact details which make the transaction a matter of seconds, I'd really start practising it if you can because it does make life so much easier.

* probably worth stressing to the club at this stage - whilst not wanting to be a grass on anyone in particular - that it was almost TOO easy - i.e. I flashed my phone for a millisecond, if people cotton on to this and the stewards are eager to get people in, people could start trying it on and flashing any old ticket. Maybe we actually need to start scanning them - or maybe we usually should be doing, and the steward had given up by that stage?
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: MadFrankie on September 20, 2021, 09:27:10 AM
I would be prepared to use a contactless debit card for entry, something I have often done at the beer bar (now in the fan zone), and which I assume would allow faster entry similar to the ticketing system. I still think a cash option should be available if possible though. I know there are people who prefer to pay with cash as a matter of principle, for example. However, I rarely use a printer and don't have a smart phone, so it would mean quite a lot of hassle for me personally under the current ticketing system. Is the club considering a bank card payment option (on the turnstiles I mean)?
Maybe there should just be a turnstile for you, equipped to support every type of ticket arrangement depending on your whim on the day?
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: HashtagAlty on September 20, 2021, 09:32:27 AM
I would be prepared to use a contactless debit card for entry, something I have often done at the beer bar (now in the fan zone), and which I assume would allow faster entry similar to the ticketing system. I still think a cash option should be available if possible though. I know there are people who prefer to pay with cash as a matter of principle, for example. However, I rarely use a printer and don't have a smart phone, so it would mean quite a lot of hassle for me personally under the current ticketing system. Is the club considering a bank card payment option (on the turnstiles I mean)?
Maybe there should just be a turnstile for you, equipped to support every type of ticket arrangement depending on your whim on the day?

I mean that's essentially what the metrolink and tube have.

Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: robininstockport on September 20, 2021, 09:46:07 AM
Pretty sure e-tickets were scanned for the last 3 home games last season
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 20, 2021, 10:02:07 AM


* probably worth stressing to the club at this stage - whilst not wanting to be a grass on anyone in particular - that it was almost TOO easy - i.e. I flashed my phone for a millisecond, if people cotton on to this and the stewards are eager to get people in, people could start trying it on and flashing any old ticket. Maybe we actually need to start scanning them - or maybe we usually should be doing, and the steward had given up by that stage?

This is a very good point - one QR code looks pretty much like any other. If scanning isn't done, we're open to unscrupulous individuals buying one ticket and using it all season.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: andrewflynn on September 20, 2021, 10:32:43 AM


* probably worth stressing to the club at this stage - whilst not wanting to be a grass on anyone in particular - that it was almost TOO easy - i.e. I flashed my phone for a millisecond, if people cotton on to this and the stewards are eager to get people in, people could start trying it on and flashing any old ticket. Maybe we actually need to start scanning them - or maybe we usually should be doing, and the steward had given up by that stage?

This is a very good point - one QR code looks pretty much like any other. If scanning isn't done, we're open to unscrupulous individuals buying one ticket and using it all season.

I've heard similar from a few people, who also suggested they could have print screened their ticket and sent it around a group of mates to get them all in for the cost of one.

People will do this if it isn't nipped in the bud. It catches on quickly.
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: ManagementGuru on September 20, 2021, 11:48:00 AM
We will be introducing the potential for card payment on the turnstile - getting the card machines is proving challenging, like getting anything these days. 

But the contactless pay on the day option will be in place very soon, if not quite for Notts County .
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Hugh on September 20, 2021, 09:01:02 PM
I would be prepared to use a contactless debit card for entry, something I have often done at the beer bar (now in the fan zone), and which I assume would allow faster entry similar to the ticketing system. I still think a cash option should be available if possible though. I know there are people who prefer to pay with cash as a matter of principle, for example. However, I rarely use a printer and don't have a smart phone, so it would mean quite a lot of hassle for me personally under the current ticketing system. Is the club considering a bank card payment option (on the turnstiles I mean)?
Maybe there should just be a turnstile for you, equipped to support every type of ticket arrangement depending on your whim on the day?

Very funny, but hardly helpful. I suppose I could always do something else with my time if it came to it. Believe it or not, for various reasons not everyone carries a working smart phone around with them all the time, and this is likely to remain the case.
carries a smart phone around with them, and this is likely to remain the case. 
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 20, 2021, 09:27:47 PM
I would be prepared to use a contactless debit card for entry, something I have often done at the beer bar (now in the fan zone), and which I assume would allow faster entry similar to the ticketing system. I still think a cash option should be available if possible though. I know there are people who prefer to pay with cash as a matter of principle, for example. However, I rarely use a printer and don't have a smart phone, so it would mean quite a lot of hassle for me personally under the current ticketing system. Is the club considering a bank card payment option (on the turnstiles I mean)?
Maybe there should just be a turnstile for you, equipped to support every type of ticket arrangement depending on your whim on the day?

Very funny, but hardly helpful. I suppose I could always do something else with my time if it came to it. Believe it or not, for various reasons not everyone carries a working smart phone around with them all the time, and this is likely to remain the case.
carries a smart phone around with them, and this is likely to remain the case.

Have you got an echo over there echo over there? 😊
Title: Re: Yeovil Town Away Tickets
Post by: JD on September 20, 2021, 09:39:42 PM
I can't believe I am writing this on a football forum . Germs exist on cash well I never . Next people will be telling me germs are air Bourne and are all around us and on our hands and faces .

We cant hold back the tide none of us can

It's like no one dies of anything else anymore . The air we breath it's self is contaminated. Should we stop breathing?

Good night x

Beer glasses, door handles, pens and park benches....nothing is safe anymore. We all know cash can be dirty and that is why we were taught to keep fingers out of our mouths at school and to wash our hands...a school where we shared PE kit if you forgot yours on purpose to avoid an hours cross country when it was snowing and minus five....smile.

PS......can you still catch VD from a pub toilet seat

That's still my excuse.

And well said Wayno: perspective!