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Title: competitions we miss out on
Post by: thegazelle on July 20, 2007, 12:27:29 AM
i really think we should be involved in the new cheshire senior very no we are so senior cup

macc crewe stockport tranmere ( did i miss someone) et al    is it a round robin tournie or straight knockout two legs or one?
Title: Re: competitions we mis out on
Post by: Ashley Alty on July 20, 2007, 01:34:43 PM
This competition is now no longer worth winning as all the league clubs in Cheshire are competing in their own competition!  The "Senior" clubs are now therefore us and Northwich

What a disgrace!

I think we should get to keep that glorious cup by default that we're the best club in the competition, let's abandon the competition now - it would avoid any fixture backlogand put the cup where it belongs

We could start a petition  ;D
Title: Re: competitions we mis out on
Post by: Ideas 4 Alty on July 20, 2007, 02:26:54 PM
The only thing we've really lost is the potential to meet Macc in the final each year. Apart from that I'm actually quite pleased the league teams won't be taking part anymore. Better to have a competition for non-league sides to win than have it won by Stockport's reserves who aren't really arsed about it in the first place.
Title: Re: competitions we mis out on
Post by: Ballers on July 20, 2007, 03:03:48 PM
This competition is now no longer worth winning as all the league clubs in Cheshire are competing in their own competition!  The "Senior" clubs are now therefore us and Northwich

What a disgrace!

I disagree. The Cheshire Senior Cup was far better before the league sides came into it. Certainly from the 80s upto 98 ish when  it seemed like a sop to keep Macc involved.

Whilst it was not highest on the list of priorities at least everyone played to win it. Once Crewe and Stockport were involved it became a farce. Obviously if Crewe put out their strongest side they would win it. In effect it was saying, this is now a competition for reserve sides. In the olden days it was at least first team v first team.

The CSC will be better for it I say.
Title: Re: competitions we mis out on
Post by: worcester robin on July 20, 2007, 03:54:49 PM
 :D is it to be known as  the cheshire not so senior cup now
Title: Re: competitions we mis out on
Post by: joe on July 20, 2007, 06:43:28 PM
Have to agree with Ballers. In my opinion the Cheshire Senior Cup was always better with just non league teams in it in. When we played teams like Crewe it was more like a pre season friendly than a competitive cup match.
Title: Re: competitions we mis out on
Post by: Altysmiffy on July 20, 2007, 06:46:49 PM
If its round robin would give us a few matches to give 1 or 2 reserves some experience, especially as they are not in a league.
Title: Re: competitions we mis out on
Post by: Graham Bennetts Perm on July 20, 2007, 06:50:37 PM
Great news! The Footlball League dross has gone....one of the greatest cup competitions in the world is restored to its former glory... although one aspect of the CSC will be sadly missed as  its no longer possible to get to the games on Crosville buses.
Title: Re: competitions we mis out on
Post by: thegazelle on July 21, 2007, 05:06:55 AM
 dear Hair do

now that made me laugh !!!!!

even as your old nemisis in the gaming world i cant understand why you have such a terrible peake rating please accept agoodwin from me in a selnec type way

i honestly looked at a bus stop sign today bancroft road/ grove lane and was pleased to see it was still 298 /299 territory but a pint for any one who can tell me the local name for that bus stop in the seventies ( by the funeral Parlour)

PS how many people can recall when we treated the cheshire senior cup with complete disdain and still beat macc( i know this got a mention recently but you tell the kids of today this and they wont believe yer)
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: Graham Bennetts Perm on July 21, 2007, 01:31:53 PM
I'll have a guess at the Morgue.

Thanks for the selnec, but really I could have done with a good peakeing as I am trying to achieve the highest peake to posting ratio possible, and am currently well clear in the UK rankings for this event.

In my experience the most dangerous 1970s bus stop must have been the 108 terminus at the Hare and Hounds, which had its own in situ purpose built skinhead conference facility ie the public loos next to the cricket club.
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: thegazelle on July 21, 2007, 01:43:26 PM
not as dangerous as the stop outside whgs on princess parkway i once got stabbed with a compass for "raping someone's sister" i was 12 at the time.


bus trivia question still stands and it is well before it was an undertakers so try again
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on July 21, 2007, 02:32:38 PM
Irene's Steak Sandwich Junction.....?
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: SW on July 21, 2007, 03:52:17 PM
I was kung fu kicked in the side of my head at the same Princess Parkway bus stop for having a briefcase!
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: thegazelle on July 21, 2007, 05:28:02 PM
i honestly cant help but think steak sandwich on hearing the name irene she never washed the pan just scrubbed it with salt once in a blue moon but boy were they good.

bored with my bus stop quiz.... the answer was stores corner after the massive coop hypermarket that was on that corner.right opposite bill watkins house (i assume he is long gone)
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: Mallorca Alty on July 23, 2007, 12:42:37 PM
Are we going back to the old days when the League clubs in Cheshire completed for the Cheshire Bowl, which I think took place during the 1930's. Maybe going back to the old format stops the league clubs being embarrased by part-time clubs. Wot next. Will they ban non-league clubs from the F.A. Cup for the same reason?
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: ManagementGuru on July 24, 2007, 09:41:57 AM
The official site says the Cheshire Premier Cup (or Cheshire Bowl) is open to the counties "professional" clubs.  What does that mean? We pay our players, don't we (although less than any other conference club etc.) - and doesn't that therefore make us professional?

If professional means full time, then shouldn't Northwich Vics be in it?

Or do they just mean football league - and if so, shouldn't they say it?
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: Alty365 on July 24, 2007, 11:41:21 AM
I think it's fair to say they mean the league clubs. As previously stated, I'm glad they're getting their own competition because playing against the reserve teams of league outfits has killed a lot of interest in a competition which already draws small crowds. To make things worse you have clubs like Chester whho are too "big time" to stage home fixtures in the competition and consequently switch them to bigger grounds. What is the point of entering a competition if you're not prepared to stage the fixtures?

I like the bizarre away ties it sometimes throws up eg. Cheadle, Woodley Sports but I did not get the same level of interest from our game at Gresty Road a couple of years back with us all sat in that big stand freezing to death.

 
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: markecky on July 24, 2007, 11:59:51 AM
I love stupid away games in the Cheshire Cup.  It almost becomes a contest to see who can go to the oddest one.
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: ManagementGuru on July 24, 2007, 01:24:33 PM
Oh boy - the 4-0 loss at Crewe.  As an exile I can only get to midweek games with any certainty - and driving from Bristol (where I had been working) to Crewe for a  match which no-one seemed to give a toss about was sould destroying

Whereas a nice Saturday trip to Middlewich (by Crosville as mentioned above) for a 2 oclock kick off was great fun
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: Saughall Robin on July 24, 2007, 03:36:50 PM
I love stupid away games in the Cheshire Cup.  It almost becomes a contest to see who can go to the oddest one.


Remember going to Sandbach once to see us play the mighty Ramblers!

What a great day out. No seating, covering along a third of the main side if I remember rightly?

Can't find the programme and if one had been sold I would have had one - but I'm sure we won by at least a couple of goals?

I don't recall if that was in the FACup or the CSC.


Great Harwood was another one. Does anyone else recall the (possibly apocryphal) story circulating at the time? The saturday game was postponed until tuesday but as they had no lights at the time it was played in the afternoon. Someone got a day off work sick, went to the game and his photo was spotted in the Daily Telegraph by his boss - he was stood behind the net celebrating as the winner went in!
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: ManagementGuru on July 24, 2007, 04:44:08 PM
I remember specifically a midweek trip to Great Harwood in the run up to the Leatherhead trophy final.  In those days you could name the Alty team in advance: Eales, Allen, Brooke, Bailey, Owens, King, Heathcote, Morris, Johnson, Rogers, Davison.  And our squad only contained a couple of other players: Crossley, Flaherty, Heys, Bannister.

And there were two players I had never seen before - and they were both in the starting line up.  I had to listen to the PA to determine that we had a new centre half: Graham Tobin and a new skinhead - Larry Garrity.  In my opinion Larry Garrity was a contender for man of the match at Canal Street in the Trophy semi final. 
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: thegazelle on July 25, 2007, 01:45:16 AM
i thin k the story on the picure in the paper was a home game when the pink used to give a fiver? to the face with a ring round it.
and it wasnt a perfect story as the guy who got sacked was only a mate of the guy who got ringed on the back page of the pink.

i am such a sad alty fano ntehat one of the best moments of my life was walking into a bar in ghana and finding a two week old copy of the pink left on a table,

brought back such good memories of queueing in the newsagents near the moss waiting for the paper to arrive whilst hearing how sh*t we  were from big bill and brian sweeney

oh how tinternet etc have ruined saturday night in blackpool we used to have to wait for the green now thats along long time ago
Title: Re: competitions we miss out on
Post by: Stockportalty on July 25, 2007, 08:59:01 AM
All this talk of the League clubs being in the CSC or not just adds to my thoughts about the FA Trophy, my understanding is that the FA Trophy is for Semi-Professional Teams so why are the full-time teams in the Conference allowed to take part? ???