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Title: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on December 27, 2022, 09:41:02 AM
Hulme on rw for Jackson. Either Jennings or Dinanga as the 9.

No reason why we cant win but would be happy with a point.

Halifax 1-1 Alty (Colclough)
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on December 27, 2022, 11:50:44 AM
Think I would start Dinanga, they did not like his closing down and nearly got on the end of a couple.
Pringle or Hulme for Jackson. I do not think we'll ever see the Jackson once a favourite at Chester.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on December 27, 2022, 01:04:20 PM
I fear that CCC's applause of the Golf Road after his superb goal may have been a gesture of farewell. His loan was "until the end of the year" so he may not be available at The Shay. I think I'd start Pringle rather than Osborne.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on December 27, 2022, 01:26:05 PM
I fear that CCC's applause of the Golf Road after his superb goal may have been a gesture of farewell. His loan was "until the end of the year" so he may not be available at The Shay. I think I'd start Pringle rather than Osborne.

Is there a chance we can extend or do they want him back?

Losing him and Newby could really derail us.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 27, 2022, 01:28:56 PM
I'm still hoping that we can get CCC until the end of the season. Keeping hold of Coco would be fantastic - especially if we (ie Parky) could get him to sign some sort of contract extension.
Even if we don't sign a right winger, securing those two could mean our first top half finish for donkeys years.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on December 27, 2022, 07:29:09 PM
Does anybody know how far you have to walk from the supporters coach to the ground for Halifax? Also how you book tickets, I cannot find anywhere on their site to book, or prices, or is it pay at gate?

I am slightly disabled but would like to take my foster daughters to an away game on the supporters coach to have an away matchday experience at a reasonably close away venue. Halifax fits that bill.

Any help much appreciated, thanks.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on December 28, 2022, 05:39:34 AM
OK, I've booked the girls and I for the away coach, via the Alty website and pre-paid it. It has been a couple of seasons since I last attended an away match, and I am unsure where you find the times from each joining point, which I assume are still the same places.

Can anybody advise me?
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Bob on December 28, 2022, 09:12:05 AM
OK, I've booked the girls and I for the away coach, via the Alty website and pre-paid it. It has been a couple of seasons since I last attended an away match, and I am unsure where you find the times from each joining point, which I assume are still the same places.

Can anybody advise me?

I'd call the club in the first instance. They took the booking after all.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on December 28, 2022, 09:32:27 AM
OK, I've booked the girls and I for the away coach, via the Alty website and pre-paid it. It has been a couple of seasons since I last attended an away match, and I am unsure where you find the times from each joining point, which I assume are still the same places.

Can anybody advise me?

https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/are-you-crossing-the-pennines-with-us-on-new-years-day-travel-and-admission-details-are-here

Same pick up points as ever & starting at the Vine from 1140.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: andrewflynn on December 28, 2022, 09:50:32 AM
It’s cash only, pay on the gate.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on December 28, 2022, 10:16:57 AM
I fear that CCC's applause of the Golf Road after his superb goal may have been a gesture of farewell. His loan was "until the end of the year" so he may not be available at The Shay. I think I'd start Pringle rather than Osborne.

I hope to God that CCC is available - I get what you mean about the applause at the end, but the fella's just scored the goal of the season in injury time - judging by the looks on his face he looked bloody delighted, it didn't seem like a goodbye to me but who knows.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on December 28, 2022, 10:42:55 AM
It’s cash only, pay on the gate.

This is really odd in 2023. Are there any other clubs in our league (Sarfend aside as it’s obviously a tax fiddle with their awful Chairman) where you can’t buy online in advance?

As for the game, now we’ve both had a good look at each other I imagine it’ll be another tight one. Might depend on the various rumours swirling about re our squad & outgoings. If we still have CCC & Coco starting on Sunday I’ll take a repeat of the 2-1 for us. Attendance wise I’d hope we take a similar number to what they brought to us, can’t rely on the trains on NYD though so glad that the club is running a bus & into Halifax in plenty of time for a pint before KO too.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on December 28, 2022, 10:44:36 AM
Thanks Sarf London Alty. Missed it in the news pages, all details now known and understood and all booked now.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on December 29, 2022, 11:34:14 AM
I'd be happy with a point, but if its our last full strength side, with rumours abound, the extra 2 could be crucial.

We'd be in the playoffs without that Torquay embarrassment
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on December 30, 2022, 03:47:53 PM
I know I should read things thoroughly. I’ve only just noticed that season ticket holders of EFL clubs and above can get into Halifax for £12. I’m a ST holder at United as well as Alty but don’t have a card for either but the digital version as it is 2023 on Sunday and not 1923.
I’m wondering if they’ll be issues at the turnstiles using the £12 and digital ST for United or I’ll be accused of being in league with the devil with new fangled technology.
It’s been a while since I’ve ventured into darkest Yorkshire and not sure if they’ve moved with the times. I’m amazed they have the ability to cultivate tea in local plantations though. That’s really amazing.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 31, 2022, 11:16:16 AM
Just to clarify things in my befuddled brain then; are we expecting CCC and Coco to be starters tomorrow?
Yes would seem to be the answer but I'm a bit confused.com!🤔
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on December 31, 2022, 11:25:05 AM
BBB ( Brian's Befuddled Brain ) and CCC . Dynamic duo 😀
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 31, 2022, 11:38:04 AM
What about PPP? (Pete's Potty Post) 😉

I. E. Not an answer!
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on December 31, 2022, 12:09:42 PM
We await events !
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 31, 2022, 12:24:49 PM
We await events !

We certainly do!
I think it's a case of 🤞
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on December 31, 2022, 03:09:03 PM
Just to clarify things in my befuddled brain then; are we expecting CCC and Coco to be starters tomorrow?
Yes would seem to be the answer but I'm a bit confused.com!🤔

Yes, Con Clarke available untill the end of January, and Colclough unless a deal is annouced tomorrow morning
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on December 31, 2022, 03:17:43 PM
Thanks for that Hashtag 👍
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on December 31, 2022, 06:45:00 PM
Great news about CCC. Sure Halifax will be delighted 😱
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on December 31, 2022, 07:17:12 PM
CCC & Coco both start then we have the two best players on the pitch before kick off, a big psychological boost after all the speculation. We will see…
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Leon on December 31, 2022, 08:05:23 PM
Just to clarify things in my befuddled brain then; are we expecting CCC and Coco to be starters tomorrow?
Yes would seem to be the answer but I'm a bit confused.com!🤔

Yes, Con Clarke available untill the end of January, and Colclough unless a deal is annouced tomorrow morning

When we signed him, the article said “till early Jan”, which I took to mean up to and including Jan 1st. I’ve not heard that we’ve extended that till the end of Jan but you may know something I don’t. My understanding is that tomorrow will be the last game of their current loan period for CCC, Jones and Jennings.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Alty Dave on January 01, 2023, 10:23:07 AM
No planned pitch inspection today according to a Halifax tweet recently
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 01, 2023, 11:16:40 AM
Good luck today boys ... You can do it!
Also, safe travels to the travelling Robins. 👍
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 01, 2023, 11:16:59 AM
Going to be heavy under foot, for sure.

I think this one will be one goal either way.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 01, 2023, 11:19:38 AM
Quite a lot of our matches are! 😉 😊
If we can keep a clean sheet, I'll be happy. (even happier if Halifax don't 😂)
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 01, 2023, 01:20:00 PM
Is anyone else biting their fingernails waiting for the starting eleven?
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on January 01, 2023, 01:27:33 PM
Alty fans safely ensconced in the 3 pigeons. Lovely stuff 🍻🍻
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: PukkaPieman on January 01, 2023, 01:53:54 PM
Pitch inspection ongoing and it sounds touch and go :-\
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on January 01, 2023, 02:03:17 PM
Pitch inspection ongoing and it sounds touch and go :-\

Described as unplayable 30 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 01, 2023, 02:10:42 PM
That's saved what's left of my nails! 😉
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Bear Town Robin on January 01, 2023, 02:12:27 PM
Joke! If postponed I fear we may have already seen the last of Colclough in an Alty shirt!  :(
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: b23 on January 01, 2023, 02:15:22 PM
Game on
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: CRT Butty on January 01, 2023, 02:16:57 PM
Game on

From unplayable to game on in 45 minutes.

Come on ALTY!
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on January 01, 2023, 02:21:31 PM
3.15 kick off
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 01, 2023, 02:28:57 PM
Osbourne playing according to the BBC. Does that mean Colclough and Conn Clarke are on either side of him?
Or is he in a midfield three with three up front instead of 3+1? A more defensive away-style line-up.

I think I'd settle for a battling 0-0 but hoping for better.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on January 01, 2023, 02:39:03 PM
Byrne O. (G)
6
Baines L.
11
Colclough R.
16
Conn-Clarke C.
35
Jennings C.
2
Jones E.
26
Jones J.
8
Lundstram J.
4
Marriott I.
5
Mullarkey T.
10
Osborne E.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on January 01, 2023, 02:39:53 PM
subs Dinanga M.
9
Hulme J.
17
Jackson B.
31
Malone D.
18
Pringle B.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on January 01, 2023, 02:51:13 PM
The team formation on the BBC site is bonkers as usual , and not even the right 11 . Oh well .
  C'mon boys 👍
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on January 01, 2023, 03:15:04 PM
BBC always shows 4.4.2
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: chesteralty on January 01, 2023, 05:15:14 PM
He's got to go. Never want to see a certain player in an Alty shirt again.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on January 01, 2023, 05:17:02 PM
He's got to go. Never want to see a certain player in an Alty shirt again.
No arguments from me. blocked Byrne on their equaliser and I just don't know what to say about the other thing that happened.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 01, 2023, 05:19:22 PM


Dinanga was an utter embarrassment.

Missed two golden chances; lost his man for their second goal and then cost us two points with that imbecilic action at the end when Colclough's shot was going in.

I never want to see him again.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Hale Alty on January 01, 2023, 05:22:12 PM
why he would get chosen in front of jordan hulme beggars belief.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on January 01, 2023, 05:22:41 PM


Dinanga was an utter embarrassment.

Missed two golden chances; lost his man for their second goal and then cost us two points with that imbecilic action at the end when Colclough's shot was going in.

I never want to see him again.
Holy f**k I forgot about the missed chances in the midst of the other cock ups
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: JD on January 01, 2023, 05:26:10 PM
On the chatroom we were thinking Pringle and Hulme: we got Jackson and Dinanga!
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2023, 05:36:32 PM
Parky got it wrong tactically, waiting far too long when we were under pressure to make the changes.
Osborne was lost out there, jogging around the pitch, stood off players. He is so poor and allows pressure onto us.
Hulme should be getting more minutes. Miss his bite and strength.
I think Colclough is on his way, sadly.
That was a game for Pringle to come on, huge pitch for his vision.
I fear we will lose both CCC and Colclough, need to be making some quality signings.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: shelmers on January 01, 2023, 05:52:13 PM
Dinanga was poor but ultimately Parky cost us that win! Everyone could see we needed changes wel before their equaliser! Really poor! No idea how Osborne stayed on so long or Jennings! Then game was crying out for Pringle to come on and CCC to goin in at number 10. Poor management today cost us
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 01, 2023, 05:53:03 PM
Can we please PAY somebody to take Dire-nanga off our hands ?
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on January 01, 2023, 05:54:38 PM
BBC always shows 4.4.2
  I meant the players that they listed  in that formation .
    Sounds like another two points squandered away from home .
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: GolfRoader on January 01, 2023, 06:00:27 PM
He may be actually have been onside meaning the linesman has a lot more to answer for but of course Dinanga shouldn't have given him that choice to make in the first place.

(PIC ATTACHED)
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Alty Bri on January 01, 2023, 06:00:39 PM
I didn't go today but after his involvement on Boxing Day, I am surprised that Pringle didn't come on.
Look, at the end of the day, we've just taken 4 points from a very good team - a team who you would expect to be in the top 7 by the end of the season.
I don't know what is happening re. Colclough and CCC but I'm pretty sure the club are doing everything they can to keep them for as long as they can.
Moving forward, we do need to operate more like Halifax and become less dependent on loanees, or this sort of thing will happen again and again.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Nom de plume on January 01, 2023, 06:30:24 PM


Dinanga was an utter embarrassment.

Missed two golden chances; lost his man for their second goal and then cost us two points with that imbecilic action at the end when Colclough's shot was going in.

I never want to see him again.
He has reached new heights of utter incompetence. Previously he was incapable of not adding to our points tally. Now he has devised a method of reducing the points to be gained. I previously said that he’ll never be a footballer as long as I’ve got a hole…….
Can I amend that? He’ll never be a footballer as long as the earth spins - I’m assuming that will be longer than I’ve got a hole….

The sad thing is that he normally misses crosses which beat the keeper and come across goal. Trust him to touch that one.

Perhaps we could start a Justgiving page to pay someone to take him off us.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on January 01, 2023, 06:31:36 PM
Really frustrating end but overall 2-2 was probably fair & you’d have taken 4/6 against them before Xmas.

For what it’s worth I was sat near level from where Colclough shot & I don’t think Dinanga was offside and, of course, it’s the same linesman who did Dinanga over vs Maidstone on the opening day when he was definitely onside. Strikers instinct takes over from there so I don’t blame him tapping it in but there we are.

I think the bigger picture risks getting lost a bit that at 1-0 our game management was just not there, we were completely on the back foot, couldn’t get out of our own half & eventually pressure told. If we’d changed things up at 1-0, Jennings was knackered & got Pringle on then we might have avoided the game of pinball it became in the last 20.

Lovely stadium they’ve got but the pre-match radio silence from their Twitter account about pitch inspections & whether we were on or not was woeful. Relying on our own Twitter & snippets from Bill in the Three Pigeons, a very poor do from Halifax.

If we can get our ground sorted out we’ll overtake them as a club in the next 5-10 years, about 600 fewer home fans there than we had on Boxing Day & any club that still plays ‘Tom Hark’ when they score a goal needs a points deduction. Highly amusing when their end started singing ‘you’re not singing anymore’ on 75 mins too after complete silence interspersed with the odd random bang of a drum for the vast majority of it.

Onwards and upwards for 2023 anyway. If we can somehow get past Wrexham I think a trophy run should be the focus.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 01, 2023, 07:19:31 PM
No words.

Why Conn-Clarke was moved to wide right to accommodate Osbourne as the 10 is criminal.

Osborne isn't a bad footballer but hes no 10.

Jennings was poor and the subs were 10/15 minutes too late (again)

As for the non goal Dinanga looked on side but why he felt the need to toe nob it over the line is something only he can answer.

Id have took 4 points from the 2 games but i feel robbed.

J
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2023, 07:37:25 PM
Dinanga was poor but ultimately Parky cost us that win! Everyone could see we needed changes wel before their equaliser! Really poor! No idea how Osborne stayed on so long or Jennings! Then game was crying out for Pringle to come on and CCC to goin in at number 10. Poor management today cost us

Their weakness in both games, was us attacking their average defence and dodgy keeper. Today Parky got it wrong.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on January 01, 2023, 07:41:48 PM
No words.

Why Conn-Clarke was moved to wide right to accommodate Osbourne as the 10 is criminal.

Osborne isn't a bad footballer but hes no 10.

Jennings was poor and the subs were 10/15 minutes too late (again)

As for the non goal Dinanga looked on side but why he felt the need to toe nob it over the line is something only he can answer.

Id have took 4 points from the 2 games but i feel robbed.

J

Osborne is actually slower than the ageing Moult and nowhere near the player.

Don't think he should be anywhere near the team sheet or even to bring on. He gives away so many free kicks, when he actually gets near a player, because he is simply far too slow.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 01, 2023, 09:25:02 PM
Furious with that. More points dropped by negatively sitting back.

On our day one of the most attacking sides around this level. Kill them off.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 01, 2023, 11:10:59 PM
The game management made me angrier than anything Jennings or Dinanga did - both of whom were as atrocious as each other, by the way. I'm glad we've not rushed into anything longer term or permanent with Jennings, as I suspect we'll prefer to send him back. Dinanga? Well, I'm not sure what else I can say.

HOWEVER...

We were screaming at Parky to change it up when they had us on the ropes - and yet he waited... and waited... and waited. In fact, he did nothing. I can't tell you how furious I was when they inevitably scored. We improved instantly after the subs - just like we did on Boxing Day - what is even going through his mind not to change it?
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on January 01, 2023, 11:38:19 PM
Yes, the difference from Boxing Day was that we left the substitutions too late, and they made an immediate difference., but only after Halifax had equalised.

As for the late incident, surely Dinanga was offside anyway (assuming the offside call was correct, which it looked to be), whether or not he touched the ball, as he was clearly in a position where he could score a goal and was therefore interfering with play.

I am delighted with the four points from Halifax over Christmas, I should add.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: B. 4D on January 02, 2023, 01:37:08 AM
Yes, the difference from Boxing Day was that we left the substitutions too late, and they made an immediate difference., but only after Halifax had equalised.

As for the late incident, surely Dinanga was offside anyway (assuming the offside call was correct, which it looked to be), whether or not he touched the ball, as he was clearly in a position where he could score a goal and was therefore interfering with play.

I am delighted with the four points from Halifax over Christmas, I should add.

I don’t think Dinanga was offside.
The Linesman never kept up with play
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on January 02, 2023, 03:19:45 AM
He's got to go. Never want to see a certain player in an Alty shirt again.
No arguments from me. blocked Byrne on their equaliser and I just don't know what to say about the other thing that happened.

Flip flopping again? By the sound of the celebrations, quite a lot of people thought he was onside, and the video seems to show why. Still, don't let facts get in the way...
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on January 02, 2023, 08:18:39 AM
To be fair to Dinanga,he did what any forward would do and try to get the goal for his tally,sadly it was deemed offside
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on January 02, 2023, 09:11:26 AM
The game management made me angrier than anything Jennings or Dinanga did - both of whom were as atrocious as each other, by the way. I'm glad we've not rushed into anything longer term or permanent with Jennings, as I suspect we'll prefer to send him back. Dinanga? Well, I'm not sure what else I can say.

HOWEVER...

We were screaming at Parky to change it up when they had us on the ropes - and yet he waited... and waited... and waited. In fact, he did nothing. I can't tell you how furious I was when they inevitably scored. We improved instantly after the subs - just like we did on Boxing Day - what is even going through his mind not to change it?

Yeah, the game management was the most frustrating part of the game. No idea what PP and Neil were watching and thinking.
If we had brought Pringle on during that period, we would have relieved pressure and attacked them.
As for Jennings, 100% no for me, heard people thinking his flick on's were him playing well. Not one header created a chance.
Can we please just keep Colclough, extend CCC, buy a right side winger and start Hulme number 9 for a few games.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 02, 2023, 09:26:11 AM
The game management made me angrier than anything Jennings or Dinanga did - both of whom were as atrocious as each other, by the way. I'm glad we've not rushed into anything longer term or permanent with Jennings, as I suspect we'll prefer to send him back. Dinanga? Well, I'm not sure what else I can say.

HOWEVER...

We were screaming at Parky to change it up when they had us on the ropes - and yet he waited... and waited... and waited. In fact, he did nothing. I can't tell you how furious I was when they inevitably scored. We improved instantly after the subs - just like we did on Boxing Day - what is even going through his mind not to change it?

Can we please just keep Colclough, extend CCC, buy a right side winger and start Hulme number 9 for a few games.

My thoughts precisely.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on January 02, 2023, 09:36:03 AM
He's got to go. Never want to see a certain player in an Alty shirt again.
No arguments from me. blocked Byrne on their equaliser and I just don't know what to say about the other thing that happened.

Flip flopping again? By the sound of the celebrations, quite a lot of people thought he was onside, and the video seems
 to show why. Still, don't let facts get in the way...
Intolerable prick was the mood of the day I see...

Only one person who leaves fact at the door for conjecture so may be you should shut your f**king mouth (it's you Hugh, I know your brain is too small to take subtle hints or to extract reason from words on paper)

I'm allowed to see a player play and make mistakes as horrific as he made yesterday and agree someone is below par.

Honestly, just when I was thinking I should let your f**king weirdness slide. I'm gonna jump on every idiotic comment you make until you leave this forum you unbelievable cock.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: GolfRoader on January 02, 2023, 02:19:47 PM
Initially, I was frustrated after the end of the game yesterday but I disagree that Phil got it wrong. We played very well for the majority of the game and more than matched Halifax. Bear in mind that Halifax have won 7 of their last 8 Home matches before yesterday and we came and almost secured 3 points.

The second goal we conceded was atypical of a team that had just scored and let their guard down. We made the changes, perhaps a little bit too late, when we were under the cosh but the direction of the game did change. It was mostly Halifax up until their goal on 69 minutes (we made changes on 75) then scored 7-8 minutes later after a lot of pressure.

A lack of concentration let us down for the equaliser and we would've won it had it not been for the madness of the last minute. I don't think Parkinson got it wrong, I think a few small mistakes cost us, including a lack of concentration which you will get with a team so young.

As for Dinanga, what he did was mindless, but I think he played a role in changing the flow of the game when he came on. He's so close to being a very capable player it's incredibly frustrating. He helped stretch the play with his energy and got himself into all the correct positions when we were getting forward but lacks the conviction at the last second. It's almost like he's a striker but isn't there to score. That doesn't make the last second any less agonising, however.

Colclough was fantastic and it's a joy to watch him play, Conn Clarke superb also and it's incredible to see how much Toby Mullarkey is turning into a very good all round footballer. He seems just as assured going forward as he does defending.

We're playing some brilliant football at the moment, our record is getting better and better and Phil and Neil are improving us yet again. I don't quite understand the backlash after this game. A frustrating manner in which we got the result but a very good draw all the same and an excellent 6 points over Christmas which I'm sure we'd have all gladly taken.

On to Bromley
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on January 02, 2023, 03:48:20 PM
I know the liner yesterday was poor, but watching this Maidstone v D&R game the liner is off the scale wank
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 02, 2023, 04:25:51 PM
Always good to have a moment of calm once we've all slept on it; the fact we're furious to come away from the Shay without three points, on New Years Day and on an absolute dog of a pitch, is testament to how far we've come. That said, there's nothing wrong with continuing to demand more - as I'm sure Parky does - and it's a nice position to be in that we're doing so well and yet there's still some very obvious areas of improvement.

Parky did get it wrong - he's not perfect, but the in-game management does seem to be his most glaring weakness of the lot, given we've been here before.

Chris Conn-Clarke was having a stinker from around 50-70; for the first equaliser, it wasn't too dissimilar to the Brad Jackson one at Torquay that he got absolutely slaughtered for. Although that's where the comparisons end; you leave CCC on the pitch for those moments of quality which are sadly well beyond Jackson's capability. He also looks to be carrying a bit too much weight in my opinion.

Halifax could end up in the playoffs - and they looked poor for large periods of both games because we made them look that way. I'm confident that the days of being 'Conferenced to Death' by outfits like Bromley are a thing of the past and that we can get back on track.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 02, 2023, 05:43:18 PM
Always good to have a moment of calm once we've all slept on it; the fact we're furious to come away from the Shay without three points, on New Years Day and on an absolute dog of a pitch, is testament to how far we've come. That said, there's nothing wrong with continuing to demand more - as I'm sure Parky does - and it's a nice position to be in that we're doing so well and yet there's still some very obvious areas of improvement.

Parky did get it wrong - he's not perfect, but the in-game management does seem to be his most glaring weakness of the lot, given we've been here before.

Chris Conn-Clarke was having a stinker from around 50-70; for the first equaliser, it wasn't too dissimilar to the Brad Jackson one at Torquay that he got absolutely slaughtered for. Although that's where the comparisons end; you leave CCC on the pitch for those moments of quality which are sadly well beyond Jackson's capability. He also looks to be carrying a bit too much weight in my opinion.

Halifax could end up in the playoffs - and they looked poor for large periods of both games because we made them look that way. I'm confident that the days of being 'Conferenced to Death' by outfits like Bromley are a thing of the past and that we can get back on track.

CCC got slaughtered in the awaynend around me for sh*tting out the tackle.

But Jackson had the ball and was unmarked all he had to do was be calm.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on January 02, 2023, 09:34:02 PM
Always good to have a moment of calm once we've all slept on it; the fact we're furious to come away from the Shay without three points, on New Years Day and on an absolute dog of a pitch, is testament to how far we've come. That said, there's nothing wrong with continuing to demand more - as I'm sure Parky does - and it's a nice position to be in that we're doing so well and yet there's still some very obvious areas of improvement.

Parky did get it wrong - he's not perfect, but the in-game management does seem to be his most glaring weakness of the lot, given we've been here before.

Chris Conn-Clarke was having a stinker from around 50-70; for the first equaliser, it wasn't too dissimilar to the Brad Jackson one at Torquay that he got absolutely slaughtered for. Although that's where the comparisons end; you leave CCC on the pitch for those moments of quality which are sadly well beyond Jackson's capability. He also looks to be carrying a bit too much weight in my opinion.

Halifax could end up in the playoffs - and they looked poor for large periods of both games because we made them look that way. I'm confident that the days of being 'Conferenced to Death' by outfits like Bromley are a thing of the past and that we can get back on track.

Ah, "dog of a pitch". Could Dinanga have been 100% sure that the ball would not hit a divot and deflect wide? That the defender running back wouldn't stop it? And was he really off-side? Did he even have time to think about all this, and is he perhaps a bit rusty with his relative lack of game time recently? Here's the video anyway. Stop it at about 5.33 and see what you think.

http://altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=26207.30 (http://altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=26207.30)
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 03, 2023, 10:50:52 AM
Nothing yet from Phil or Neil, certainly a game I'd love some candid answers about.

Halifax had an interview out already
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on January 03, 2023, 12:46:08 PM
Always good to have a moment of calm once we've all slept on it; the fact we're furious to come away from the Shay without three points, on New Years Day and on an absolute dog of a pitch, is testament to how far we've come. That said, there's nothing wrong with continuing to demand more - as I'm sure Parky does - and it's a nice position to be in that we're doing so well and yet there's still some very obvious areas of improvement.

Parky did get it wrong - he's not perfect, but the in-game management does seem to be his most glaring weakness of the lot, given we've been here before.

Chris Conn-Clarke was having a stinker from around 50-70; for the first equaliser, it wasn't too dissimilar to the Brad Jackson one at Torquay that he got absolutely slaughtered for. Although that's where the comparisons end; you leave CCC on the pitch for those moments of quality which are sadly well beyond Jackson's capability. He also looks to be carrying a bit too much weight in my opinion.

Halifax could end up in the playoffs - and they looked poor for large periods of both games because we made them look that way. I'm confident that the days of being 'Conferenced to Death' by outfits like Bromley are a thing of the past and that we can get back on track.

Ah, "dog of a pitch". Could Dinanga have been 100% sure that the ball would not hit a divot and deflect wide? That the defender running back wouldn't stop it? And was he really off-side? Did he even have time to think about all this, and is he perhaps a bit rusty with his relative lack of game time recently? Here's the video anyway. Stop it at about 5.33 and see what you think.

http://altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=26207.30 (http://altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=26207.30)

For all the points you mention, earlier in this same thread I mentioned that the game management from the touchline cheesed me off much more than the split second actions of Dinanga.

That said, all of your points would have been analysed by a better forward and the correct decision made. Alas, Dinanga is not one of those individuals. Could I be certain that Conor Jennings or Jordan Hulme would have acted differently? No, probably not - but then again, we need a better quality than all of them.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on January 03, 2023, 01:30:43 PM
Having watched the disallowed goal live at the game then again on the highlights the ball is at least a third of the way on its journey to Dinanga when he runs past a static last defender.
 The liner (I refuse to give him the kudos of assistant referee) was obviously going to thrust his flag skyward at the defenders request as he had spent all afternoon delighting in being the centre of attention whilst being blissfully unaware of what he was flagging for. I think Jordan would have banged it in too as offside appeared not to be an issue. Ref should have got the liner to call ins and outs only and replaced his flag with a white hankie.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on January 03, 2023, 03:37:25 PM
The ball was on the line when he riffled it in. He didn't not know it was going wide; it was going in. The  defenders were crestfallen in as soon as colcolugh hit it and sprung back to life on dinanga hitting it in to appeal.

He was onside, but it was purely selfish to take a goal off a teammate, whether he needs them for his goal bonus, to earn a start of continue his career.

He was onside, and the lineman, flagged, very late.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on January 03, 2023, 04:11:22 PM
The ball was on the line when he riffled it in. He didn't not know it was going wide; it was going in. The  defenders were crestfallen in as soon as colcolugh hit it and sprung back to life on dinanga hitting it in to appeal.

He was onside, but it was purely selfish to take a goal off a teammate, whether he needs them for his goal bonus, to earn a start of continue his career.

He was onside, and the lineman, flagged, very late.
Agreed. Stupid and selfish. Not a team man for me.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 03, 2023, 04:28:05 PM
The ball was on the line when he riffled it in. He didn't not know it was going wide; it was going in. The  defenders were crestfallen in as soon as colcolugh hit it and sprung back to life on dinanga hitting it in to appeal.

He was onside, but it was purely selfish to take a goal off a teammate, whether he needs them for his goal bonus, to earn a start of continue his career.

He was onside, and the lineman, flagged, very late.
Agreed. Stupid and selfish. Not a team man for me.
the warning signs have been there for a while sadly and I agree around the player element his reaction ( or lack of it ) to one the best goals scored in recent years is very odd to me . It's been noted elsewhere be great one level down . https://youtu.be/COiKU7rfrIY 8.50 onwards . He meanders over as a token getsture in my opinion
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 03, 2023, 05:21:56 PM
The ball was on the line when he riffled it in. He didn't not know it was going wide; it was going in. The  defenders were crestfallen in as soon as colcolugh hit it and sprung back to life on dinanga hitting it in to appeal.

He was onside, but it was purely selfish to take a goal off a teammate, whether he needs them for his goal bonus, to earn a start of continue his career.

He was onside, and the lineman, flagged, very late.
Agreed. Stupid and selfish. Not a team man for me.
the warning signs have been there for a while sadly and I agree around the player element his reaction ( or lack of it ) to one the best goals scored in recent years is very odd to me . It's been noted elsewhere be great one level down . https://youtu.be/COiKU7rfrIY 8.50 onwards . He meanders over as a token getsture in my opinion



Ollie Byrne gets to CCC quicker than Dinanga.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 03, 2023, 05:26:16 PM

The ball was on the line when he riffled it in. He didn't not know it was going wide; it was going in. The  defenders were crestfallen in as soon as colcolugh hit it and sprung back to life on dinanga hitting it in to appeal.

He was onside, but it was purely selfish to take a goal off a teammate, whether he needs them for his goal bonus, to earn a start of continue his career.

He was onside, and the lineman, flagged, very late.



Possibly the most surprising aspect of that controversial late incident at The Shay is that Dinanga didn't still somehow contrive to miss the target.

Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 03, 2023, 05:50:59 PM

The ball was on the line when he riffled it in. He didn't not know it was going wide; it was going in. The  defenders were crestfallen in as soon as colcolugh hit it and sprung back to life on dinanga hitting it in to appeal.

He was onside, but it was purely selfish to take a goal off a teammate, whether he needs them for his goal bonus, to earn a start of continue his career.

He was onside, and the lineman, flagged, very late.



Possibly the most surprising aspect of that controversial late incident at The Shay is that Dinanga didn't still somehow contrive to miss the target.

Made I larf!
(wish I could give you a Goodwin) 😊
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 03, 2023, 06:29:57 PM

The ball was on the line when he riffled it in. He didn't not know it was going wide; it was going in. The  defenders were crestfallen in as soon as colcolugh hit it and sprung back to life on dinanga hitting it in to appeal.

He was onside, but it was purely selfish to take a goal off a teammate, whether he needs them for his goal bonus, to earn a start of continue his career.

He was onside, and the lineman, flagged, very late.



Possibly the most surprising aspect of that controversial late incident at The Shay is that Dinanga didn't still somehow contrive to miss the target.

Made I larf!
(wish I could give you a Goodwin) 😊
bring back Peaks !! 😂😂
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: wayno on January 03, 2023, 06:30:27 PM
The ball was on the line when he riffled it in. He didn't not know it was going wide; it was going in. The  defenders were crestfallen in as soon as colcolugh hit it and sprung back to life on dinanga hitting it in to appeal.

He was onside, but it was purely selfish to take a goal off a teammate, whether he needs them for his goal bonus, to earn a start of continue his career.

He was onside, and the lineman, flagged, very late.
Agreed. Stupid and selfish. Not a team man for me.
the warning signs have been there for a while sadly and I agree around the player element his reaction ( or lack of it ) to one the best goals scored in recent years is very odd to me . It's been noted elsewhere be great one level down . https://youtu.be/COiKU7rfrIY 8.50 onwards . He meanders over as a token getsture in my opinion



Ollie Byrne gets to CCC quicker than Dinanga.
tickled me that
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on January 04, 2023, 09:47:31 PM
Always good to have a moment of calm once we've all slept on it; the fact we're furious to come away from the Shay without three points, on New Years Day and on an absolute dog of a pitch, is testament to how far we've come. That said, there's nothing wrong with continuing to demand more - as I'm sure Parky does - and it's a nice position to be in that we're doing so well and yet there's still some very obvious areas of improvement.

Parky did get it wrong - he's not perfect, but the in-game management does seem to be his most glaring weakness of the lot, given we've been here before.

Chris Conn-Clarke was having a stinker from around 50-70; for the first equaliser, it wasn't too dissimilar to the Brad Jackson one at Torquay that he got absolutely slaughtered for. Although that's where the comparisons end; you leave CCC on the pitch for those moments of quality which are sadly well beyond Jackson's capability. He also looks to be carrying a bit too much weight in my opinion.

Halifax could end up in the playoffs - and they looked poor for large periods of both games because we made them look that way. I'm confident that the days of being 'Conferenced to Death' by outfits like Bromley are a thing of the past and that we can get back on track.

Ah, "dog of a pitch". Could Dinanga have been 100% sure that the ball would not hit a divot and deflect wide? That the defender running back wouldn't stop it? And was he really off-side? Did he even have time to think about all this, and is he perhaps a bit rusty with his relative lack of game time recently? Here's the video anyway. Stop it at about 5.33 and see what you think.

http://altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=26207.30 (http://altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=26207.30)

For all the points you mention, earlier in this same thread I mentioned that the game management from the touchline cheesed me off much more than the split second actions of Dinanga.

That said, all of your points would have been analysed by a better forward and the correct decision made. Alas, Dinanga is not one of those individuals. Could I be certain that Conor Jennings or Jordan Hulme would have acted differently? No, probably not - but then again, we need a better quality than all of them.

It looks like they're doing something about it anyway.

https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/welcome-to-alty-michael-clegg-former-ashton-boss-is-robins-new-chief-scout
 (https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/welcome-to-alty-michael-clegg-former-ashton-boss-is-robins-new-chief-scout)

From what I remember, Atherton Collieries looked a decent enough side in that game going into their first season at NPL Premier. When you think that a few years back, they were the second team in Atherton (To Atherton Labernum Rovers, whatever a "labernum" is), it is remarkable what they achieved in getting to that level. After the inevitable rebuilding job his season, I hope that they can make a real go at getting a forward of the quality of Newby for a whole season in the next year or two. Before he left, we were looking like a team good enough to compete for a play-off, and the challenge now is to maintain that sort of quality over a whole season. FC Halifax have possibly managed it with former County man Warburton, and I assume they are not repeating the financial mistakes of the defunct Halifax Town, so hopefully we can manage it too.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 04, 2023, 09:56:05 PM
The 'laburnum' comes from the laburnum playing fields where they originally played.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on January 04, 2023, 10:02:59 PM
Ah yes, a bit like Bradford (Park Avenue) - who should really be called "Bradford (Park Avenue (Now Cemetery Road (Mind The Cricket Balls!)))F.C."!  :)

I suppose they haven't confirmed for certain what a "yeltz" is at Halesowen? Then again, my native Aberdeen couldn't say for certain why they were the "Dons", last I heard. And as for the Grapplers! The mists of time...
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 04, 2023, 10:10:26 PM
Yeltz comes from the local pronunciation of Yeltz own.
Dons is a diminutive of Aberdonian.

HTH 😉
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Hugh on January 04, 2023, 10:53:49 PM
There was also a theory that it was related to Aberdeen (or one of their three predecessors (one of whom were involved in a record 36-0 scoreline I think)) being formed by teachers, as I understand. I'm not sure that it's even certain that Aberdeen is formed from a contraction of Don and Dee, the two rivers in that city. Apparently there was also more than one theory about the Yeltz, so I suppose what I really mean is can these other theories definitively be dismissed? And then there's the Grapplers. And what was Rigby Memorial School actually in memory of? And I think I read somewhere that Altrincham F.C. used to be called Broadheath Manchester - was this simply a mistake? Interesting stuff.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 05, 2023, 08:47:15 AM
Also worth noting that Aberdeen's ground, Pittodrie, translates into English as "dung heap".
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on January 05, 2023, 09:22:57 AM
Thought that was Macclesfield 🤔
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on January 05, 2023, 11:47:48 AM
Also worth noting that Aberdeen's ground, Pittodrie, translates into English as "dung heap".

You obviously watched The Chase last night 😉
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on January 06, 2023, 12:57:13 AM
Also worth noting that Aberdeen's ground, Pittodrie, translates into English as "dung heap".

You obviously watched The Chase last night 😉

I did Ray, but I did know already.
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on January 06, 2023, 10:50:19 AM
There was also a theory that it was related to Aberdeen (or one of their three predecessors (one of whom were involved in a record 36-0 scoreline I think)) being formed by teachers, as I understand. I'm not sure that it's even certain that Aberdeen is formed from a contraction of Don and Dee, the two rivers in that city. Apparently there was also more than one theory about the Yeltz, so I suppose what I really mean is can these other theories definitively be dismissed? And then there's the Grapplers. And what was Rigby Memorial School actually in memory of? And I think I read somewhere that Altrincham F.C. used to be called Broadheath Manchester - was this simply a mistake? Interesting stuff.
  You may be thinking of this , Scottish Cup record score ,  Arbroath 36 Bon Accord 0 . Fortunately for BA no added time back then 😂
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: chesteralty on January 06, 2023, 11:09:18 AM
Amazingly on the same day Dundee Harp beat Aberdeen Rovers 35 - 0. No one ever remembers that though!!
Title: Re: Halifax Away Match Thread
Post by: swindellsworth on January 06, 2023, 12:42:36 PM
This is what you get when you allow these no hope part timers to join in 🙂