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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: AltyNotFaulty on February 01, 2023, 01:42:28 AM
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Your new look Alty starting Xl….
Byrne
Welch-Hales. J.Jones Baines. E.Jones
Ludstrum. Marriot
Quitirna. Cashman Gyasi
Hulme
Bench - Pringle, Kaja, Osbourne, Oyedele, Dinanga
Looks so strange… but like losing the Mag 7 and starting again 😝
Wrexham - Just signed Central Defender O’Connel from Charlton due to losing 2 CB to injury.
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If the new loan signings bed in quickly, it won't be too bad - just need that elusive striker now.
Hopefully the two Parkies can have a glass of wine after the game, brush the handbags from the last encounter under the carpet - and seal a loan deal for their young lad up front.
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I thought Kaja looked v sharp last Saturday, and he offered a turn of pace that I hadn't seen previously. I'd start him in preference, I think.
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Gould
Welsh-Hayes J. Jones Baines(C) E. Jones
Marriot Lundstam
Kaja Cashman Gyasi
Hulme
Gould's in as he's more chance of dealing with the aerial bombardment.
Baines is captain because he's the only player I hear on the pitch.
Hulme is not captain as it might give him his bite back which we've not had all season
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https://altrinchamfc.com/blogs/news/important-info-wrexham-game-now-ticket-only
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My guess is that Cashman and Hugill will go straight in - whereas the others will probably make the bench:
Byrne
Welch-Hayes J.Jones Baines E.Jones
Marriott Lundstram
Kaja Cashman Gyasi
Hugill
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Can't see Hugill starring as much as Id likw him to.
Feels like FM after you strip the sqaud bare and bring in half of League 1 on loan.
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With what is effectively 7 new faces, God only knows how anyone can name a team!
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None of them cup tied for the FA Trophy
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Gould
Welsh-Hayes J. Jones Baines(C) E. Jones
Marriot Lundstam
Kaja Cashman Gyasi
Hulme
Gould's in as he's more chance of dealing with the aerial bombardment.
Baines is captain because he's the only player I hear on the pitch.
Hulme is not captain as it might give him his bite back which we've not had all season
This team
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Gould
Welsh-Hayes J. Jones Baines(C) E. Jones
Marriot Lundstam
Kaja Cashman Gyasi
Hulme
Gould's in as he's more chance of dealing with the aerial bombardment.
Baines is captain because he's the only player I hear on the pitch.
Hulme is not captain as it might give him his bite back which we've not had all season
This team
I wouldn't give up on Byrne just yet - plus surely Hugill of all people has got to go straight in if he's available.
My captain would be Isaac Marriott, just because he's been here a bit longer than the others.
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Any score from 1-1 to 6-0 could be the score.
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Any score from 1-1 to 6-0 could be the score.
When you say 6-0 I'm horribly afraid you actually mean 0-6.
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Any score from 1-1 to 6-0 could be the score.
Hope you're right first time, Hashtag! (i.e. 1-1)😄
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I’ll settle for a Chesterfield type performance, backs against the walls and defend like trojans.
I’d also enjoy an Alty win just to shut some moaners up on here! The amount of desperate, worried people that feel we are going to implode and grow two left feet… Probably the same people that couldn’t stop moaning after a few matches.
Like many have said before me… stop moaning, get behind your team and make some noise!
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oh lay oh lay oh lay oh layyyyy Alty Alty!!!!
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I’ll settle for a Chesterfield type performance, backs against the walls and defend like trojans.
I’d also enjoy an Alty win just to shut some moaners up on here! The amount of desperate, worried people that feel we are going to implode and grow two left feet… Probably the same people that couldn’t stop moaning after a few matches.
Like many have said before me… stop moaning, get behind your team and make some noise!
As a great man one said, get your talking done early.
Ill be stood singing (one of the few that still do) for. 90 minutes, because id rather be wrong and win. However, this season, has felt bleak during the first 10, and bleak during the middle 15 when we won most weaks.
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Feels a bit like the circus is coming to town for me on Saturday. Live TV coverage, on course to be 5000 in & all this after a very interesting week at the club with the outgoings & the tie up with United & these promising kids coming in. All happening at Moss Lane these days. It’s a far cry from Parky’s first year in charge in the NPL.
Doubtless be a tough night but Maidstone were minutes away from taking a point off these the other week so why not. Wouldn’t want to predict the attacking part of our line up but it’s not like the back 5 & midfield two will change so it just depends on if the various newbies can hit the ground running.
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I’ll settle for a Chesterfield type performance, backs against the walls and defend like trojans.
I’d also enjoy an Alty win just to shut some moaners up on here! The amount of desperate, worried people that feel we are going to implode and grow two left feet… Probably the same people that couldn’t stop moaning after a few matches.
Like many have said before me… stop moaning, get behind your team and make some noise!
"Bloody Rubbish Alty"! Plus ca change...
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I’ll settle for a Chesterfield type performance, backs against the walls and defend like trojans.
I’d also enjoy an Alty win just to shut some moaners up on here! The amount of desperate, worried people that feel we are going to implode and grow two left feet… Probably the same people that couldn’t stop moaning after a few matches.
Like many have said before me… stop moaning, get behind your team and make some noise!
As a great man one said, get your talking done early.
Ill be stood singing (one of the few that still do) for. 90 minutes, because id rather be wrong and win. However, this season, has felt bleak during the first 10, and bleak during the middle 15 when we won most weaks.
I'll even give up going on the pop side when we're shooting towards the Chequers End to join you if you're really up for singing for 90 minutes! I wouldn't be able to get very far along the pop side anyway.
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Interesting on Wrexham AFC News.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJj_Tvi_cTg
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJj_Tvi_cTg)
Who calls Sheffield United "Sheffield" (apart from me)? And then there's Al-trin-cham! Anyway, looks to be a first team player they signed from Charlton, as I suspected. A different planet really, and if we do much better than "0-6", we're not doing so bad, considering. But don't worry, it'll be an "exciting match"!
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According to the club site re Saturday , Wrexham have sold out their allocation of 1,656 tickets which includes entry to some of the family stand , all of the chequers end AND 60% OF THE POPULAR SIDE ! That's effectively almost half the ground , so with the club stating they expect a crowd in excess of the Guiseley game ( 4,600 plus) , their fans can move about at their leisure whilst we are packed in like sardines . What the hell ???
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According to the club site re Saturday , Wrexham have sold out their allocation of 1,656 tickets which includes entry to some of the family stand , all of the chequers end AND 60% OF THE POPULAR SIDE ! That's effectively almost half the ground , so with the club stating they expect a crowd in excess of the Guiseley game ( 4,600 plus) , their fans can move about at their leisure whilst we are packed in like sardines . What the hell ???
It's nowhere near half the capacity, a big chunk of the chequers end doesn't even have terracing and they are getting a slither of one entire side where they'd have to sit anyway. Hardly moving about at their leisure...
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According to the club site re Saturday , Wrexham have sold out their allocation of 1,656 tickets which includes entry to some of the family stand , all of the chequers end AND 60% OF THE POPULAR SIDE ! That's effectively almost half the ground , so with the club stating they expect a crowd in excess of the Guiseley game ( 4,600 plus) , their fans can move about at their leisure whilst we are packed in like sardines . What the hell ???
This particular point was done to death on the fans Facebook group yesterday. They have the same number of tickets as Oldham or Stockport did but the council are insisting on a large sterile area between fans which means more of the Pop Side has to be left empty between the two sets of fans. End of the day we still all have the luxury of a roof, two bars to choose from & some of the Pop Side, the GRE, the standing in front of the CSH and the Main Stand. I think we can all manage for one game. It’ll be back to 1300 for Bromley at home on a Tuesday night in two weeks.
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According to the club site re Saturday , Wrexham have sold out their allocation of 1,656 tickets which includes entry to some of the family stand , all of the chequers end AND 60% OF THE POPULAR SIDE ! That's effectively almost half the ground , so with the club stating they expect a crowd in excess of the Guiseley game ( 4,600 plus) , their fans can move about at their leisure whilst we are packed in like sardines . What the hell ???
Are you on Nights mate or just suffering from insomnia? 😄😄
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2-0 Alty
I stream therefore I am
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According to the club site re Saturday , Wrexham have sold out their allocation of 1,656 tickets which includes entry to some of the family stand , all of the chequers end AND 60% OF THE POPULAR SIDE ! That's effectively almost half the ground , so with the club stating they expect a crowd in excess of the Guiseley game ( 4,600 plus) , their fans can move about at their leisure whilst we are packed in like sardines . What the hell ???
Are you on Nights mate or just suffering from insomnia? 😄😄
It's all sleep deprivation mate , worrying about Saturdays scoreline 🥺🥱😂
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According to the club site re Saturday , Wrexham have sold out their allocation of 1,656 tickets which includes entry to some of the family stand , all of the chequers end AND 60% OF THE POPULAR SIDE ! That's effectively almost half the ground , so with the club stating they expect a crowd in excess of the Guiseley game ( 4,600 plus) , their fans can move about at their leisure whilst we are packed in like sardines . What the hell ???
This particular point was done to death on the fans Facebook group yesterday. They have the same number of tickets as Oldham or Stockport did but the council are insisting on a large sterile area between fans which means more of the Pop Side has to be left empty between the two sets of fans. End of the day we still all have the luxury of a roof, two bars to choose from & some of the Pop Side, the GRE, the standing in front of the CSH and the Main Stand. I think we can all manage for one game. It’ll be back to 1300 for Bromley at home on a Tuesday night in two weeks.
Cheers for that SLA , need to face up to Facebook facts 👍
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1-1 attendance 4966
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4-0 - bur only see 2 as the other 2 are 42 and. 48
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Accept I have only seen highlights and the new players on paper, but we have acquired some solid attacking threat.
Why not give Wrexham a game and get at them.
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Slightly amended - I think Linney will start on the bench if Hugill is available, but I could be well out with this:
Byrne
Welch-Hayes J.Jones Baines E.Jones
Marriott Lundstram
Sinclair Cashman Gyasi
Hugill
Subs: God knows
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Not sure if the documentation for Linney will be completed in time for Saturday evening.
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I'd go:
Byrne;
MWH, JJ, Baines, EJ;
Lundstram, Marriott
Kaja, Cashman, Quitirna/Sinclair
Linney
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Hulme/Dinanga, Quitirna/Sinclar, Pringle, Osborne, Oyedele
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I'd go:
Byrne;
MWH, JJ, Baines, EJ;
Lundstram, Marriott
Kaja, Cashman, Quitirna/Sinclair
Linney
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Hulme/Dinanga, Quitirna/Sinclar, Pringle, Osborne, Oyedele
I reckon that's about right although I think Gyasi may start and will almost certainly be in the 16.
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I'd go:
Byrne;
MWH, JJ, Baines, EJ;
Lundstram, Marriott
Kaja, Cashman, Quitirna/Sinclair
Linney
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Hulme/Dinanga, Quitirna/Sinclar, Pringle, Osborne, Oyedele
I reckon that's about right although I think Gyasi may start and will almost certainly be in the 16.
I forgot about Gyasi! Easily done at the moment I guess.
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Byrne
Welch-Hayes J.Jones Baines E.Jones
Marriott Lundstram
Kaja Cashman Sinclair
Linney
Subs : Hugill/Hulme, Gyasi, Quitirna, (defender) & Pringle
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I'd go:
Byrne;
MWH, JJ, Baines, EJ;
Lundstram, Marriott
Kaja, Cashman, Quitirna/Sinclair
Linney
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Hulme/Dinanga, Quitirna/Sinclar, Pringle, Osborne, Oyedele
I reckon that's about right although I think Gyasi may start and will almost certainly be in the 16.
I forgot about Gyasi! Easily done at the moment I guess.
Very easily.
Given there is this rule whereby a team can only field five loan players max in any matchday squad, I wonder if that's a clue to the status of the three lads from Utd? ie the other five (Gyasi, Quitirna, Sinclair, Cashman and Welch-Hayes) will be the first choice loan players and the other three will fill in if we get injuries or when players are Trophy-tied.
I wonder if the same rule re loan players applies in the Trophy incidentally?
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I'd go:
Byrne;
MWH, JJ, Baines, EJ;
Lundstram, Marriott
Kaja, Cashman, Quitirna/Sinclair
Linney
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Hulme/Dinanga, Quitirna/Sinclar, Pringle, Osborne, Oyedele
Yes. This is my thoughts. Thought Gyasi didn't show much on Tuesday, very disappointing
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I'd go:
Byrne;
MWH, JJ, Baines, EJ;
Lundstram, Marriott
Kaja, Cashman, Quitirna/Sinclair
Linney
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Hulme/Dinanga, Quitirna/Sinclar, Pringle, Osborne, Oyedele
I reckon that's about right although I think Gyasi may start and will almost certainly be in the 16.
I forgot about Gyasi! Easily done at the moment I guess.
Very easily.
Given there is this rule whereby a team can only field five loan players max in any matchday squad, I wonder if that's a clue to the status of the three lads from Utd? ie the other five (Gyasi, Quitirna, Sinclair, Cashman and Welch-Hayes) will be the first choice loan players and the other three will fill in if we get injuries or when players are Trophy-tied.
I wonder if the same rule re loan players applies in the Trophy incidentally?
I wonder if the language we've used suggest theres a smart work around as in work experience doesnt count
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I'd go:
Byrne;
MWH, JJ, Baines, EJ;
Lundstram, Marriott
Kaja, Cashman, Quitirna/Sinclair
Linney
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Hulme/Dinanga, Quitirna/Sinclar, Pringle, Osborne, Oyedele
Yes. This is my thoughts. Thought Gyasi didn't show much on Tuesday, very disappointing
Agreed, he was poor bar an excellent through ball to Dinanga in the second half.
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I'd go:
Byrne;
MWH, JJ, Baines, EJ;
Lundstram, Marriott
Kaja, Cashman, Quitirna/Sinclair
Linney
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Hulme/Dinanga, Quitirna/Sinclar, Pringle, Osborne, Oyedele
I reckon that's about right although I think Gyasi may start and will almost certainly be in the 16.
I forgot about Gyasi! Easily done at the moment I guess.
Very easily.
Given there is this rule whereby a team can only field five loan players max in any matchday squad, I wonder if that's a clue to the status of the three lads from Utd? ie the other five (Gyasi, Quitirna, Sinclair, Cashman and Welch-Hayes) will be the first choice loan players and the other three will fill in if we get injuries or when players are Trophy-tied.
I wonder if the same rule re loan players applies in the Trophy incidentally?
I wonder if the language we've used suggest theres a smart work around as in work experience doesnt count
I wondered that but the wording of the NL rule in question specifically includes youth loans and work experience:
"Rule 6.4.8:
A Club may name up to a maximum of five (5) players on a Team Sheet who are either Short Term Loan, Long Term, Youth Loan or Work Experience. Any Club in breach of this Rule which results in more than 5 of such players entering the field of play during the course of any one fixture will be deemed to have played an ineligible player(s) and will be dealt with in accordance with Rule 6.9."
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I'd go:
Byrne;
MWH, JJ, Baines, EJ;
Lundstram, Marriott
Kaja, Cashman, Quitirna/Sinclair
Linney
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Hulme/Dinanga, Quitirna/Sinclar, Pringle, Osborne, Oyedele
I reckon that's about right although I think Gyasi may start and will almost certainly be in the 16.
I forgot about Gyasi! Easily done at the moment I guess.
Very easily.
Given there is this rule whereby a team can only field five loan players max in any matchday squad, I wonder if that's a clue to the status of the three lads from Utd? ie the other five (Gyasi, Quitirna, Sinclair, Cashman and Welch-Hayes) will be the first choice loan players and the other three will fill in if we get injuries or when players are Trophy-tied.
I wonder if the same rule re loan players applies in the Trophy incidentally?
I wonder if the language we've used suggest theres a smart work around as in work experience doesnt count
I wondered that but the wording of the NL rule in question specifically includes youth loans and work experience:
"Rule 6.4.8:
A Club may name up to a maximum of five (5) players on a Team Sheet who are either Short Term Loan, Long Term, Youth Loan or Work Experience. Any Club in breach of this Rule which results in more than 5 of such players entering the field of play during the course of any one fixture will be deemed to have played an ineligible player(s) and will be dealt with in accordance with Rule 6.9."
It might sound silly but are our management team aware of this. One simple mistake with a substitute could easily see is forfeit the game. It could be very easy to do in a pressurised situation ir where emotions are high.
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Slightly amended - I think Linney will start on the bench if Hugill is available, but I could be well out with this:
Byrne
Welch-Hayes J.Jones Baines E.Jones
Marriott Lundstram
Sinclair Cashman Gyasi
Hugill
Subs: Cooper, Osborne, Pringle, Kaja, Linney
Had a go at the sub's bench, given five loanees are already on the pitch.
Out of the loanees, I think the two younger United lads - plus the Fleetwood lad with the visa issues - will be the ones to miss out.
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I wonder if there's a case for playing Hugill and Linney together.
If Wrexham have a weakness its their defence and their two first choice centre backs were injured last weekend. We're not going to get anywhere sitting back and letting Mullins and Palmer run onto us.
This game was always going to be a free hit, it might be interesting to give it a go.
I do admit it probably won't happen though!
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Hope there are plenty of stewards (and boys in blue) to keep things on track this evening given, I'm betting, there'll be quite a number of away fans in the home areas.
Hope I'm overthinking this but don't believe so.
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Osborne starting is ridiculous. A game which will be high tempo, silly decision.
We now have some quality and we sacrifice a position.
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Not sure why one United lad would be available and not the others.
Jordan's going to have his work cut out up top.
Might be a long evening.
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Osborne starting is ridiculous.
I just can't believe that!
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Good effort so far, keep it going lads.
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Obviously, Wrexham will come at us 2nd half, but so far at least, it's been quite encouraging.
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Ouch! So close to a point there…. :(
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I have to say the Wrexham Parkinson is an utter classless T**t. It was all he could do to attempt to shake Phil Parkys hand.
Wrexham will probably go up . I won’t miss their manager.
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Gutted, well done Alty. Their pressure told too much in the end.
I thought Welch-Hayes was great regardless of his goal, James Jones too (who I've criticised recently) - even the often-maligned Osborne acquitted himself well.
Where's that Jordan been hiding? Seeing him booked for being a sh*thouse took me back to the old days.
On that showing we'll be OK.
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Unlucky boys, top effort.
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Agree re. Welch-Hayes. He offers us something going forward and is a decent defender too. In fact, I felt the entire defence did really well and we're very nearly able to grab a point against a Wrexham team which flattered to deceive to be perfectly honest. Marriott and Lundstram did well too - particularly the former (who was everywhere). Osborne was a weird selection over the likes of Pringle, but hey ho.
The obvious fallback is up front. I love Jordan, don't get me wrong but he ain't scoring and that's a problem. Sinclair and Kaja (when he came on) tried hard but there aren't many goals there either. I'd like to see Linney and Gyasi start the next game, because I feel they will offer more.
We're only 8 points clear of Gateshead - that's the harsh reality with a bad run of fixtures to come.
Hopefully we'll find the right combination up top - then we'll definitely be okay. Fingers crossed.
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Wrexham pay a lot of money but appear to have one tactic long throws and corners into the box and pick up the scraps.
We played the better football but just couldn't finish off our chances. If only we'd started with a striker who scores goals.
On the positive side Cashman looked very good especially in the first half.
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Agree re. Welch-Hayes. He offers us something going forward and is a decent defender too. In fact, I felt the entire defence did really well and we're very nearly able to grab a point against a Wrexham team which flattered to deceive to be perfectly honest. Marriott and Lundstram did well too - particularly the former (who was everywhere). Osborne was a weird selection over the likes of Pringle, but hey ho.
The obvious fallback is up front. I love Jordan, don't get me wrong but he ain't scoring and that's a problem. Sinclair and Kaja (when he came on) tried hard but there aren't many goals there either. I'd like to see Linney and Gyasi start the next game, because I feel they will offer more.
We're only 8 points clear of Gateshead - that's the harsh reality with a bad run of fixtures to come.
Hopefully we'll find the right combination up top - then we'll definitely be okay. Fingers crossed.
Linney and Gyasi are the two players who can’t play in our next game.
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Osborne starting is ridiculous. A game which will be high tempo, silly decision.
We now have some quality and we sacrifice a position.
Can’t be getting onto players before the games even started. Thought he was really solid today, showed his quality with a few raking balls out to MWH in the 1st half. He only made 2 fouls today aswell which suprised be the most! Not sure what he was doing with a slide tackle in the second half though.
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On the positive side Cashman looked very good especially in the first half.
Cashman looked class - especially that ball he played to Sinclair. Had echoes of a head-down, tearing through defences, Chris Sharratt at times too. Happy with that.
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Battling display , closer game than most of us expected and a lot of positives . The newcomers did well especially Cashman i thought , Marriott was my m.o.m. what a gem he has become .
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Marriott has got to be the club captain in my opinion.
I think Cashman and Sinclair - whose clubs say they're not quite League Two standard - will come good against clubs that aren't League Two standard like Wrexham are.
What's the situation with the United lads - especially Hugill - why wasn't he available for us?
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unfortunately i had to missed the end of the game so i didnt follow how it panned out, but it looks like a very respectably performance by altrincham, and in front of a world wide audience too.
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I suspect there may be caveats to having the United lads at the club. If so, this would be a shame as we could certainly do with Hugill.
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Proud of the lads today and we deserved more. If we show this spirit and commitment we should be ok for the rest of the season
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I suspect there may be caveats to having the United lads at the club. If so, this would be a shame as we could certainly do with Hugill.
That's the 'innovative' part of the deal...
It is understood the FA Youth Cup winners will continue to train with United and be available to play for the Under-21s as well as Altrincham.
Sources say the legislation allows them to gain non-league experience whilst remaining involved in the day-to-day environment at United. (MEN)
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After the team being pretty much decimated that was a fantastic performance. Well done lads
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Thought Wrexham were there for the taking. We played really well but that extra bit of firepower they have saw them home.
If we keep up that standard we'll be fine.
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With the players we've got on board, we've still got a great chance of finishing higher than last year which would be good! 😉
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Good effort today. Thought Wrexham were the better team but dear god for what they've paid/paying not good
Don't feel too deflated after that defeat
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Byrne has to learn how to hold the ball and not parry it across goal,he did it a few times tonight and they scored from the second one.Other than that ,thought we played really well and were the better team apart from about 15 minutes in each half.We deserved at least a point today.How Bt gave Lee man of the match i do not know.
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Can’t ask for any more from a side that’s still gelling. Was so proud. Really thought we were on for a point but that was a proper league-winning result for Wrexham. 3 points when you’re at 75% and your opposition at 110%.
Carry it into Bracknell, such a big game that.
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What was the official attendance tonight
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What was the official attendance tonight
4865.
Record gate receipts.
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Great effort and so proud of the boys (a little gutted too).
It got a bit feisty on the pop side segregation, the Stewards where happy to remove 12 year old's from the Alty side but run scared from the 50 year old Neanderthal from the Wrexham side (I did get a little worried and protective for my elderly Dad and young Daughter) who barged through the gate.
I was told NW & GM Police would be on hand ?
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Agreed it did. Not sure why they have such a small distance between home and away fans there, it just attracts idiots on both sides of the fencing. Enlarge it and that may help reduce the issues. Always a bit of a mystery why when there are police in the ground, like last night, there are never any there, when that seems to be such an obvious potential flashpoint area.
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Agreed it did. Not sure why they have such a small distance between home and away fans there, it just attracts idiots on both sides of the fencing. Enlarge it and that may help reduce the issues. Always a bit of a mystery why when there are police in the ground, like last night, there are never any there, when that seems to be such an obvious potential flashpoint area.
If often takes a minimal, but obvious, police presence in the right area to stop that. Two officers in that area would have been ideal. Having said that, 4865 people with generally excellent behaviour.
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Agree yes and rather randomly what seemed to be the only incident, the pitch invader after we scored, was a Scottish bloke on a stag do!
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In the equivalent games last season, we took 16 points from our remaining league games (with the addition of an extra game vs York). That involves swapping Lynn at Home for Gateshead, and Dover away for Dorking - both of those are now much harder fixtures. This site predicts the league table using some unknown model, and has us finishing 19th, 2 points clear of relegation: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/league-table/predicted
Thought we were really good yesterday, given all the turnover, and really liked Cashman in particular. But we need these arrivals to get match fit and gel, quickly. We didn't win any of the next 7 last season, and if that happens again this year we'll be sucked right into it.
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Is that the biggest crowd ever for a league game then? I'm sure the biggest crowd ever was Blackburn in the cup in 1974 (?). Something like 8000+, which seems very scary now, and I was there!
*According to Wiki Record attendance: 10,275, Altrincham Boys vs Sunderland Boys, 28 February 1925[19]
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In the equivalent games last season, we took 16 points from our remaining league games (with the addition of an extra game vs York). That involves swapping Lynn at Home for Gateshead, and Dover away for Dorking - both of those are now much harder fixtures. This site predicts the league table using some unknown model, and has us finishing 19th, 2 points clear of relegation: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/league-table/predicted
Thought we were really good yesterday, given all the turnover, and really liked Cashman in particular. But we need these arrivals to get match fit and gel, quickly. We didn't win any of the next 7 last season, and if that happens again this year we'll be sucked right into it.
Yes, this makes a lot of sense.
I think 19th is about right given the upheaval, but agree too that finding the right combination from the multiple options we appear to have at present could easily propel us much higher than 19th.
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Is that the biggest crowd ever for a league game then? I'm sure the biggest crowd ever was Blackburn in the cup in 1974 (?). Something like 8000+, which seems very scary now, and I was there!
*According to Wiki Record attendance: 10,275, Altrincham Boys vs Sunderland Boys, 28 February 1925[19]
Around 5,500 v Blackburn . Best league crowd i remember is against Macc here in 67/68 of 8,700 or so .
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What was the crowd v Leyton Orient in the FA Cup? My Dad said it was absolutely rammed for that game.
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In the equivalent games last season, we took 16 points from our remaining league games (with the addition of an extra game vs York). That involves swapping Lynn at Home for Gateshead, and Dover away for Dorking - both of those are now much harder fixtures. This site predicts the league table using some unknown model, and has us finishing 19th, 2 points clear of relegation: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/league-table/predicted
Thought we were really good yesterday, given all the turnover, and really liked Cashman in particular. But we need these arrivals to get match fit and gel, quickly. We didn't win any of the next 7 last season, and if that happens again this year we'll be sucked right into it.
That’s interesting in that a lot of predicted tables just tend to be done roughly on a current points per game basis so no one moves very much.
But I think that could be more realistic, I hope we don’t leave it so tight though!!
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What was the crowd v Leyton Orient in the FA Cup? My Dad said it was absolutely rammed for that game.
I thought the biggest fa cup crowd was the over 7k we got for the game with Barrow.
Never forget the exhilaration I felt when Bert Lister put us in the lead at the Red Robin Club end (as it was then).
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What was the crowd v Leyton Orient in the FA Cup? My Dad said it was absolutely rammed for that game.
7,844.
It was very snug on the Chequers End, as I recall!
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Is that the biggest crowd ever for a league game then? I'm sure the biggest crowd ever was Blackburn in the cup in 1974 (?). Something like 8000+, which seems very scary now, and I was there!
*According to Wiki Record attendance: 10,275, Altrincham Boys vs Sunderland Boys, 28 February 1925[19]
The attendance at Moss Lane for the FA Cup Second Round replay against Blackburn Rovers on Wednesday, 19th December 1973 was 5,021.
That game had a kick-off time of 1:15pm.
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What was the crowd v Leyton Orient in the FA Cup? My Dad said it was absolutely rammed for that game.
7,844.
It was very snug on the Chequers End, as I recall!
Only time iv'e ever been squashed in at a home game , the Golf Rd was jam packed . The only spaces i recall was in the corner of the pop side / now fanzone area where the Orient fans were
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In the equivalent games last season, we took 16 points from our remaining league games (with the addition of an extra game vs York). That involves swapping Lynn at Home for Gateshead, and Dover away for Dorking - both of those are now much harder fixtures. This site predicts the league table using some unknown model, and has us finishing 19th, 2 points clear of relegation: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/league-table/predicted
Thought we were really good yesterday, given all the turnover, and really liked Cashman in particular. But we need these arrivals to get match fit and gel, quickly. We didn't win any of the next 7 last season, and if that happens again this year we'll be sucked right into it.
Yes, this makes a lot of sense.
I think 19th is about right given the upheaval, but agree too that finding the right combination from the multiple options we appear to have at present could easily propel us much higher than 19th.
It says we'll take a single point from Eastligh Gateshead SC**thorped Oldham and Dorking which I cant see, us failing to pick up more than a single point from,
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What was the crowd v Leyton Orient in the FA Cup? My Dad said it was absolutely rammed for that game.
I thought the biggest fa cup crowd was the over 7k we got for the game with Barrow.
Never forget the exhilaration I felt when Bert Lister put us in the lead at the Red Robin Club end (as it was then).
Brian,
The attendance for that FA Cup Second Round tie at Moss Lane back on Saturday, 6th January 1968 was 8,462.
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What was the crowd v Leyton Orient in the FA Cup? My Dad said it was absolutely rammed for that game.
7,844.
It was very snug on the Chequers End, as I recall!
It was.
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Is that the biggest crowd ever for a league game then? I'm sure the biggest crowd ever was Blackburn in the cup in 1974 (?). Something like 8000+, which seems very scary now, and I was there!
*According to Wiki Record attendance: 10,275, Altrincham Boys vs Sunderland Boys, 28 February 1925[19]
The attendance at Moss Lane for the FA Cup Second Round replay against Blackburn Rovers on Wednesday, 19th December 1973 was 5,021.
That game had a kick-off time of 1:15pm.
Ah yes bang on , thanks , similar crowds against Crewe and Sheff Utd later on .
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Wow.
I'd got it into my head that it was 7700 but as I wasn't sure, I said 7k+.
I didn't think it was that high but, as there was no segregation in those days, I do remember the "traffic jams" in the middle of the popular side when we all changed ends at half time!
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What was the crowd v Leyton Orient in the FA Cup? My Dad said it was absolutely rammed for that game.
7,844.
It was very snug on the Chequers End, as I recall!
Thanks for that, Barry. Yes, I imagine it was a bit of a tight squeeze with that many in!
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So, Barry, as you're the records man, would you say I was correct in saying the Barrow game was our record fa cup crowd?
PS. I didn't just say 'Cup' as I positive there were more at the second leg of the Cheshire Senior Cup final vs Strolling Ken Barnes's Witton Albion (whatever the official figures were!)
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Wow.
I'd got it into my head that it was 7700 but as I wasn't sure, I said 7k+.
I didn't think it was that high but, as there was no segregation in those days, I do remember the "traffic jams" in the middle of the popular side when we all changed ends at half time!
Bloody hell , what a crowd !!! What a throwback , those change of ends were fun back then , wonder that crowd did'nt spill onto the pitch . Slightly before i started going as you know , but did'nt a gobby geezer called Ron McGarry score their winner .
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Wow.
I'd got it into my head that it was 7700 but as I wasn't sure, I said 7k+.
I didn't think it was that high but, as there was no segregation in those days, I do remember the "traffic jams" in the middle of the popular side when we all changed ends at half time!
Bloody hell , what a crowd !!! What a throwback , those change of ends were fun back then , wonder that crowd did'nt spill onto the pitch . Slightly before i started going as you know , but did'nt a gobby geezer called Ron McGarry score their winner .
Excerpt from one of my When We Were Kings programme articles (which were written in 2010/11):
"I sincerely hope that I am not tempting fate by citing the statistic that Barrow have accomplished only three victories at Moss Lane from a total of 31 post World War II visits to date.
The first of this trio of rare away wins occurred in an FA Cup Second Round tie back on 6th January 1968. At that juncture, the Holker Street side were under the guidance of player-manager Colin Appleton and lying in 13th position in the old English Third Division. Notwithstanding the former Oldham Athletic and Stockport County striker Bert Lister scoring a first minute goal for the Robins, Barrow eventually progressed to a Third Round home tie with Leicester City courtesy of two strikes in the 22nd and 42nd minutes respectively by Ron “Cassius” McGarry (a flamboyant character who reportedly once had his business cards printed with the legend: "Have goals, will travel") in front of an attendance of 8,462.
Incidentally, the Robins’ pre-match preparation for that fixture consisted of an overnight stay for the squad at The Bowdon Hotel on the Friday, which was preceded by manager Freddie Pye leading his players en masse to Hale Cinema in order to watch Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor in The Taming Of The Shrew. I wonder whether Graham Heathcote has ever contemplated using a dose of Shakespeare as a pre-match motivational aid for inspiring his players…..?"
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So, Barry, as you're the records man, would you say I was correct in saying the Barrow game was our record fa cup crowd?
PS. I didn't just say 'Cup' as I positive there were more at the second leg of the Cheshire Senior Cup final vs Strolling Ken Barnes's Witton Albion (whatever the official figures were!)
At Moss Lane post-World War II, I'd say 'yes'.
And unlikely to be surpassed.
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Wow.
I'd got it into my head that it was 7700 but as I wasn't sure, I said 7k+.
I didn't think it was that high but, as there was no segregation in those days, I do remember the "traffic jams" in the middle of the popular side when we all changed ends at half time!
Bloody hell , what a crowd !!! What a throwback , those change of ends were fun back then , wonder that crowd did'nt spill onto the pitch . Slightly before i started going as you know , but did'nt a gobby geezer called Ron McGarry score their winner .
Excerpt from one of my When We Were Kings programme articles (which were written in 2010/11):
"I sincerely hope that I am not tempting fate by citing the statistic that Barrow have accomplished only three victories at Moss Lane from a total of 31 post World War II visits to date.
The first of this trio of rare away wins occurred in an FA Cup Second Round tie back on 6th January 1968. At that juncture, the Holker Street side were under the guidance of player-manager Colin Appleton and lying in 13th position in the old English Third Division. Notwithstanding the former Oldham Athletic and Stockport County striker Bert Lister scoring a first minute goal for the Robins, Barrow eventually progressed to a Third Round home tie with Leicester City courtesy of two strikes in the 22nd and 42nd minutes respectively by Ron “Cassius” McGarry (a flamboyant character who reportedly once had his business cards printed with the legend: "Have goals, will travel") in front of an attendance of 8,462.
Incidentally, the Robins’ pre-match preparation for that fixture consisted of an overnight stay for the squad at The Bowdon Hotel on the Friday, which was preceded by manager Freddie Pye leading his players en masse to Hale Cinema in order to watch Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor in The Taming Of The Shrew. I wonder whether Graham Heathcote has ever contemplated using a dose of Shakespeare as a pre-match motivational aid for inspiring his players…..?"
Brilliant ! Thank you . I read all of your articles of course , some you just can't recall somehow ! Those mid to late sixties crowds were amazing and like you say unlikely to be repeated .
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So, Barry, as you're the records man, would you say I was correct in saying the Barrow game was our record fa cup crowd?
PS. I didn't just say 'Cup' as I positive there were more at the second leg of the Cheshire Senior Cup final vs Strolling Ken Barnes's Witton Albion (whatever the official figures were!)
At Moss Lane post-World War II, I'd say 'yes'.
And unlikely to be surpassed.
Yes. Very precise mate! Obviously excluding our 'home' games vs Everton (OT) and Spurs (Maine Road) 😉 👍
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i must be confusing the Blackburn and Orient crowd sizes (i was at both games). the blackburn replay was in the afternoon because of the three-day week during the miners strike with the early ko to avoid having to use the floodlights. we all bunked off school but got away with it. i've still not told my mum.
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i must be confusing the Blackburn and Orient crowd sizes (i was at both games). the blackburn replay was in the afternoon because of the three-day week during the miners strike with the early ko to avoid having to use the floodlights. we all bunked off school but got away with it. i've still not told my mum.
Is your tea still waiting on the table for you?
>:(
Scamp!
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Overall a great day for the club barring the result. Listening to Parky, both JJ and Lundstram were unwell prior to the game, but played. You could not have told.
Thought we deserved a point, but just outdone. Defensively we were pretty good, but there is room for improvement. Hope Ollie continues to improve.
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i was at both games,it was a great atmostphere for them both.i was at my usual spot just to the right hand side of the goal post in the moss lane end.