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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on September 11, 2016, 11:37:57 AM
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Is there any chance we can have an update or some news on what the situation is with injured and MIA players? Two left backs have disappeared without a word, here's what I think is injured/missing, can anyone fill in the gaps, because playing a striker at centre back really is beyond a joke for a club of this standing.
Callum Charlton
Adam Sumner
Shaun Desmore
John Cyrus
Tom Hannigan
Billy Hasler-Cregg
Fabio bassangue
What is the script with above, how long are we talking regards Cyrus, Densmore, Hannigan injury wise and what is the situation with
Charlton
Sumner
Hasler-Cregg
bassangue
Two left backs in that list and we are playing a midfielder at left back and a striker at centre back
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All 100% valid questions. I'd suggest addressing them to the chairman, if I thought he'd respond.
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I believe Sinclair has left
I'd like to know who on contract and for how long, plus length of loans
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I hope you're right about Sinclair. I thought Sumner was on non contract terms, so surely that should be easy enough. Last I heard, Bassengue was here till Christmas. I'm sure Dens said on RR he was hoping for an October return and Hannigan has now been out for a month (out of 6 weeks). Charlton and Cregg's situations are a complete mystery to me.
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Is there any chance we can have an update or some news on what the situation is with injured and MIA players? Two left backs have disappeared without a word, here's what I think is injured/missing, can anyone fill in the gaps, because playing a striker at centre back really is beyond a joke for a club of this standing.
Callum Charlton
Adam Sumner
Shaun Desmore
John Cyrus
Tom Hannigan
Billy Hasler-Cregg
Fabio bassangue
What is the script with above, how long are we talking regards Cyrus, Densmore, Hannigan injury wise and what is the situation with
Charlton
Sumner
Hasler-Cregg
bassangue
Two left backs in that list and we are playing a midfielder at left back and a striker at centre back
Also add to the injured and need an update list Danny Hall and Tim Deasy.
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I commented a few months ago, and got shouted down, that we can read about injuries, comings and goings etc at any Conference club in the country on our website, other than our own. This was never a criticism of John Laidlar as it's obvious he doesn't have the information to hand to report it....why is that? Other clubs release news information so why not us?
I'm beginning to believe the Chairman is running this club in a manner similar to that crazy fella in North Korea!
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I commented a few months ago, and got shouted down, that we can read about injuries, comings and goings etc at any Conference club in the country on our website, other than our own. This was never a criticism of John Laidlar as it's obvious he doesn't have the information to hand to report it....why is that? Other clubs release news information so why not us?
I'm beginning to believe the Chairman is running this club in a manner similar to that crazy fella in North Korea!
The club gives the perception it has no respect for the fans. It's only a matter of time before we get a 'you don't know how hard it is to run a football club' type press release appealing for calm and trying to patronise us.
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I commented a few months ago, and got shouted down, that we can read about injuries, comings and goings etc at any Conference club in the country on our website, other than our own. This was never a criticism of John Laidlar as it's obvious he doesn't have the information to hand to report it....why is that? Other clubs release news information so why not us?
I'm beginning to believe the Chairman is running this club in a manner similar to that crazy fella in North Korea!
The club gives the perception it has no respect for the fans. It's only a matter of time before we get a 'you don't know how hard it is to run a football club' type press release appealing for calm and trying to patronise us.
The way some posters are behaving on here they absolutely deserve exactly such a message!
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sh*te communication is a kind description
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I'm beginning to believe that the Chairman / Board are not willing to provide updates on signings, departures, or injuries because they are sulking about all of the criticism coming their way, and therefore they don't believe we deserve to be told.
Just a theory.
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John Edwards indicated on Radio Robins last night that there would be a full update on the injured and departed players in the coming days.
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John Edwards indicated on Radio Robins last night that there would be a full update on the injured and departed players in the coming days.
It shouldn't take this long, the lines of communication are terrible.
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For me, the breakdown in communication is one of the most worrying aspects of our current situation. I think it needs addressing outright at the forthcoming open meeting and for all parties to be completely open and honest about the situation. The problem needs to be dealt with once and for all, no matter how many noses get put out of joint, and only then we can resolve it and move on.
It's absolutely bloody ridiculous in all honesty. A club the size of ours cannot hope to move forwards if there is pettiness and in-fighting.
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For me, the club hierarchy seem to be anti social media, because they dislike the negative aspects of it, but of course, social media has many positive aspects too which need to be tapped into., and they don't seem to embrace the website either IMHO. It's outdated and needs to be brought into the current era.
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Didnt there used to be a piece in the programme from the physio about current injuries ?
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John Edwards indicated on Radio Robins last night that there would be a full update on the injured and departed players in the coming days.
It shouldn't take this long, the lines of communication are terrible.
I agree. It was in response to my criticism of the lack of information from the club that John said an update was coming - I suspect in (slow) response to the many critical posts on here.
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I'm beginning to believe that the Chairman / Board are not willing to provide updates on signings, departures, or injuries because they are sulking about all of the criticism coming their way, and therefore they don't believe we deserve to be told.
Just a theory.
Agreed. Not sure whether it's intentional or not, but the vibes coming from the board towards the fans recently have been absolutely dreadful.
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Didnt there used to be a piece in the programme from the physio about current injuries?
Yes - and there still is. The most recent one (Chorley prog) updated Shaun Densmore's situation - rehab continuing with an exercise programme - and Alan Goodall's change of working circumstances.
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For me, the club hierarchy seem to be anti social media, because they dislike the negative aspects of it, but of course, social media has many positive aspects too which need to be tapped into., and they don't seem to embrace the website either IMHO. It's outdated and needs to be brought into the current era.
I disagree with the website comment - its updated daily with current relevant content thats provided both from our club and the wider league. A county fan at work actually commented to me how much better it was than their site - and I've just seen their fans forum which is miles behind this one.
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For me, the club hierarchy seem to be anti social media, because they dislike the negative aspects of it, but of course, social media has many positive aspects too which need to be tapped into., and they don't seem to embrace the website either IMHO. It's outdated and needs to be brought into the current era.
I agree, we're miles behind some clubs in terms of social media content.
Didnt there used to be a piece in the programme from the physio about current injuries?
Yes - and there still is. The most recent one (Chorley prog) updated Shaun Densmore's situation - rehab continuing with an exercise programme - and Alan Goodall's change of working circumstances.
That's all well and good for the 100 or so fans who still choose the programme as their source of information, but there's an entire generation of new fans that don't want one. They get their information via Twitter and Facebook, and as a club we don't cater for them very well.
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
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Twitter and Facebook don't cost money, the website is poor for 2016 there are no excuses other than a backward outlook.
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
It shouldnt just be about folk wanting info, it should be about people being made aware, the word being spread. Just sticking it on the main site won't do that. You are relying then on people actually visiting the site.
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I might at a stretch use Twitter, but Facebook is a total pain and wild horses etc.
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
Do you know how social media works? It doesn't cost anything.
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
Do you know how social media works? It doesn't cost anything.
Keep on trying CB, you'll get people into the 21st century eventually.
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
Do you know how social media works? It doesn't cost anything.
I think he was probably referring to the fact that somebody would have to take the time (and therefore money) to update the twitter feed, the facebok page, the website, etc, etc
I quite like the idea of Alty pigeon post (a meal and a message in one).
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
Do you know how social media works? It doesn't cost anything.
I think he was probably referring to the fact that somebody would have to take the time (and therefore money) to update the twitter feed, the facebok page, the website, etc, etc
I quite like the idea of Alty pigeon post (a meal and a message in one).
That is what I was on about yes. The more apps you want to update the more you need to commit. Why just those two, why not all the other Social Media. Once you start it is increasingly hard to stop...so don't start.
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
Do you know how social media works? It doesn't cost anything.
I think he was probably referring to the fact that somebody would have to take the time (and therefore money) to update the twitter feed, the facebok page, the website, etc, etc
I quite like the idea of Alty pigeon post (a meal and a message in one).
That is what I was on about yes. The more apps you want to update the more you need to commit. Why just those two, why not all the other Social Media. Once you start it is increasingly hard to stop...so don't start.
What's it like in your cave?
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John Edwards indicated on Radio Robins last night that there would be a full update on the injured and departed players in the coming days.
It shouldn't take this long, the lines of communication are terrible.
I agree. It was in response to my criticism of the lack of information from the club that John said an update was coming - I suspect in (slow) response to the many critical posts on here.
In the interests of clarity and fairness, I'd like to make one or two points, because a lot of the criticism on this thread has been unjust and, in some cases, downright inaccurate. To suggest news of injuries, fitness, suspensions, whatever, is deliberately withheld is just plain wrong. Going back to the days of Grahame Heathcote and then Ken McKenna, when I started as press officer, I've always interviewed the manager after a game, asked for team news as well as reaction to events on the pitch and then submitted the interview in full for use on the website. This season has been a little different, as other matters have overshadowed the usual everyday stuff, such as Neil Young making one signing after another then resigning. For each signing, I received a name and a one-sentence quote. It was up to me to research the player for background information and put together a reasonably detailed press release. Similarly, when Neil resigned, an appropriate statement had to be devised, followed by further information about the search for a new manager. That search ended 11 days ago, with the appointment of Jim Harvey. An initial same-day website article announcing Jim's arrival was followed within 24-48 hours by an in-depth interview with him. Since then, a week has elapsed. I agree supporters are fully entitled to expect news of injuries and availability, but what people don't seem to realise is I was working on it. You are out of order Laurence (Leon) in suggesting I'd only put together an injury update as a response to your criticism on Radio Robins. That was the inference in your post. Certainly, you went on to say you 'suspected it was a (slow) response to the many critical posts'. Again, absolutely wrong. I asked about injuries and availability last week, but the response, quite reasonably, was that we didn't want to alert the opposition to who might or might not be doubtful. That happens at all levels of football, week-in week-out. It was a response I became accustomed to from Premier League managers throughout my time as a sports writer. It's simply a case of timing, not deliberately keeping supporters in the dark, and the correct timing for releasing injury information was after the Nuneaton game, which was duly done. Also, for those wondering about social media, we do make use of it. Everything I send to John Laidlar for the website, I also send to Simon Brotherton, and he does a great job of posting on Facebook and Twitter. I'm not averse to criticism, if it is merited and informed. Additionally, a bit of realism wouldn't go amiss. If we could afford to employ a PR/press person, it would be reasonable to expect a daily flow of news and information. As it is, it's all done on a voluntary basis. Even so, I'd still hazard a guess our output of news and views at least matches other clubs of a similar standing.
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
Do you know how social media works? It doesn't cost anything.
I think he was probably referring to the fact that somebody would have to take the time (and therefore money) to update the twitter feed, the facebok page, the website, etc, etc
I quite like the idea of Alty pigeon post (a meal and a message in one).
That is what I was on about yes. The more apps you want to update the more you need to commit. Why just those two, why not all the other Social Media. Once you start it is increasingly hard to stop...so don't start.
Or you know some dead clever person could event an app that updates all of them at once. Perhaps name it something clever llike tweetdeck...
Hang on..
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John Edwards indicated on Radio Robins last night that there would be a full update on the injured and departed players in the coming days.
It shouldn't take this long, the lines of communication are terrible.
I agree. It was in response to my criticism of the lack of information from the club that John said an update was coming - I suspect in (slow) response to the many critical posts on here.
In the interests of clarity and fairness, I'd like to make one or two points, because a lot of the criticism on this thread has been unjust and, in some cases, downright inaccurate. To suggest news of injuries, fitness, suspensions, whatever, is deliberately withheld is just plain wrong. Going back to the days of Grahame Heathcote and then Ken McKenna, when I started as press officer, I've always interviewed the manager after a game, asked for team news as well as reaction to events on the pitch and then submitted the interview in full for use on the website. This season has been a little different, as other matters have overshadowed the usual everyday stuff, such as Neil Young making one signing after another then resigning. For each signing, I received a name and a one-sentence quote. It was up to me to research the player for background information and put together a reasonably detailed press release. Similarly, when Neil resigned, an appropriate statement had to be devised, followed by further information about the search for a new manager. That search ended 11 days ago, with the appointment of Jim Harvey. An initial same-day website article announcing Jim's arrival was followed within 24-48 hours by an in-depth interview with him. Since then, a week has elapsed. I agree supporters are fully entitled to expect news of injuries and availability, but what people don't seem to realise is I was working on it. You are out of order Laurence (Leon) in suggesting I'd only put together an injury update as a response to your criticism on Radio Robins. That was the inference in your post. Certainly, you went on to say you 'suspected it was a (slow) response to the many critical posts'. Again, absolutely wrong. I asked about injuries and availability last week, but the response, quite reasonably, was that we didn't want to alert the opposition to who might or might not be doubtful. That happens at all levels of football, week-in week-out. It was a response I became accustomed to from Premier League managers throughout my time as a sports writer. It's simply a case of timing, not deliberately keeping supporters in the dark, and the correct timing for releasing injury information was after the Nuneaton game, which was duly done. Also, for those wondering about social media, we do make use of it. Everything I send to John Laidlar for the website, I also send to Simon Brotherton, and he does a great job of posting on Facebook and Twitter. I'm not averse to criticism, if it is merited and informed. Additionally, a bit of realism wouldn't go amiss. If we could afford to employ a PR/press person, it would be reasonable to expect a daily flow of news and information. As it is, it's all done on a voluntary basis. Even so, I'd still hazard a guess our output of news and views at least matches other clubs of a similar standing.
John, my sincere apologies. Nothing that I said on here or on RR was intended as a criticism of you. What I was trying to say was that I'd mentioned on commentary that I wasn't sure where we were up to with certain injuries and that just gave you the cue to tell people an update was coming - I wasn't suggesting it was my comment that occasioned the whole thing. And my speculation that the update had been motivated by criticism on the forum was again not aimed at you but at the people who provide you with the information. That though was pure speculation and, it would seem, just plain wrong. So again, my apologies on that score.
I've never doubted that you and JL and Simon all post the information you get from the club as quickly as you can and I think you all do a great job. Your points about not wanting to tip the wink to other clubs and what a frantic time it's been are also good ones. But I do still wonder whether the club generally gives us, the fans, as much information as it could and as other equivalent clubs seem to. It feels at times like they don't but I don't know. Maybe we're actually more forthcoming than other clubs and this is just my frustration at this season coming out in other ways? Suffice it to say that knowing now that a fair few of our injured players are close to a return has made me feel a deal better about our prospects.
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John Edwards indicated on Radio Robins last night that there would be a full update on the injured and departed players in the coming days.
It shouldn't take this long, the lines of communication are terrible.
I agree. It was in response to my criticism of the lack of information from the club that John said an update was coming - I suspect in (slow) response to the many critical posts on here.
In the interests of clarity and fairness, I'd like to make one or two points, because a lot of the criticism on this thread has been unjust and, in some cases, downright inaccurate. To suggest news of injuries, fitness, suspensions, whatever, is deliberately withheld is just plain wrong. Going back to the days of Grahame Heathcote and then Ken McKenna, when I started as press officer, I've always interviewed the manager after a game, asked for team news as well as reaction to events on the pitch and then submitted the interview in full for use on the website. This season has been a little different, as other matters have overshadowed the usual everyday stuff, such as Neil Young making one signing after another then resigning. For each signing, I received a name and a one-sentence quote. It was up to me to research the player for background information and put together a reasonably detailed press release. Similarly, when Neil resigned, an appropriate statement had to be devised, followed by further information about the search for a new manager. That search ended 11 days ago, with the appointment of Jim Harvey. An initial same-day website article announcing Jim's arrival was followed within 24-48 hours by an in-depth interview with him. Since then, a week has elapsed. I agree supporters are fully entitled to expect news of injuries and availability, but what people don't seem to realise is I was working on it. You are out of order Laurence (Leon) in suggesting I'd only put together an injury update as a response to your criticism on Radio Robins. That was the inference in your post. Certainly, you went on to say you 'suspected it was a (slow) response to the many critical posts'. Again, absolutely wrong. I asked about injuries and availability last week, but the response, quite reasonably, was that we didn't want to alert the opposition to who might or might not be doubtful. That happens at all levels of football, week-in week-out. It was a response I became accustomed to from Premier League managers throughout my time as a sports writer. It's simply a case of timing, not deliberately keeping supporters in the dark, and the correct timing for releasing injury information was after the Nuneaton game, which was duly done. Also, for those wondering about social media, we do make use of it. Everything I send to John Laidlar for the website, I also send to Simon Brotherton, and he does a great job of posting on Facebook and Twitter. I'm not averse to criticism, if it is merited and informed. Additionally, a bit of realism wouldn't go amiss. If we could afford to employ a PR/press person, it would be reasonable to expect a daily flow of news and information. As it is, it's all done on a voluntary basis. Even so, I'd still hazard a guess our output of news and views at least matches other clubs of a similar standing.
John, my sincere apologies. Nothing that I said on here or on RR was intended as a criticism of you. What I was trying to say was that I'd mentioned on commentary that I wasn't sure where we were up to with certain injuries and that just gave you the cue to tell people an update was coming - I wasn't suggesting it was my comment that occasioned the whole thing. And my speculation that the update had been motivated by criticism on the forum was again not aimed at you but at the people who provide you with the information. That though was pure speculation and, it would seem, just plain wrong. So again, my apologies on that score.
I've never doubted that you and JL and Simon all post the information you get from the club as quickly as you can and I think you all do a great job. Your points about not wanting to tip the wink to other clubs and what a frantic time it's been are also good ones. But I do still wonder whether the club generally gives us, the fans, as much information as it could and as other equivalent clubs seem to. It feels at times like they don't but I don't know. Maybe we're actually more forthcoming than other clubs and this is just my frustration at this season coming out in other ways? Suffice it to say that knowing now that a fair few of our injured players are close to a return has made me feel a deal better about our prospects.
No worries, Laurence, thanks for the response. It does matter to me that things are done as professionally as possible on the press and media front, and it does therefore irritate and frustrate me sometimes when people occasionally rush to judgement without necessarily having all the facts to hand. That said, I'd be the first to admit there is always room for improvement, and I am doing my best to try to increase the flow of news and information to the website. Believe me, I'll keep striving, because obviously I'd much rather have positive feedback than dissatisfaction over our efforts to communicate.
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Quoting John Edwards, "As it is, it's all done on a voluntary basis." People would do well to remember that before criticising the website, the PR or most other aspects of what goes on at Altrincham FC
Additionally, you can't make somebody say something (e.g. about injuries) if they don't want to.
Third and last - I'd like to know a lot of things. I have no right to know any of them, and in some cases there is an absolute imperative that I should not know certain things - that's called confidentiality. I completely accept those distinctions and I hope others do too.
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
Do you know how social media works? It doesn't cost anything.
I think he was probably referring to the fact that somebody would have to take the time (and therefore money) to update the twitter feed, the facebok page, the website, etc, etc
I quite like the idea of Alty pigeon post (a meal and a message in one).
That is what I was on about yes. The more apps you want to update the more you need to commit. Why just those two, why not all the other Social Media. Once you start it is increasingly hard to stop...so don't start.
Or you know some dead clever person could event an app that updates all of them at once. Perhaps name it something clever llike tweetdeck...
Hang on..
I've never heard of tweetdeck and doubt I'm the only one. As a man in his 40s I wasn't brought up with social media and the internet whereas people 20 years younger were so they probably find it quite bizarre that some have never heard of a lot of apps let alone don't know how to use them.
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
Do you know how social media works? It doesn't cost anything.
I think he was probably referring to the fact that somebody would have to take the time (and therefore money) to update the twitter feed, the facebok page, the website, etc, etc
I quite like the idea of Alty pigeon post (a meal and a message in one).
That is what I was on about yes. The more apps you want to update the more you need to commit. Why just those two, why not all the other Social Media. Once you start it is increasingly hard to stop...so don't start.
Or you know some dead clever person could event an app that updates all of them at once. Perhaps name it something clever llike tweetdeck...
Hang on..
I've never heard of tweetdeck and doubt I'm the only one. As a man in his 40s I wasn't brought up with social media and the internet whereas people 20 years younger were so they probably find it quite bizarre that some have never heard of a lot of apps let alone don't know how to use them.
Yes, and there's also the fact that some of us actually choose what social media we buy into. Keep Facebook and tweet deck thanks, it's not for me. And for the record I work in IT and have got along just fine without it so far in life. There's nothing wrong with a website as a medium for distributing information to the fans. All this talk of dragging us all into the 21st century is naive nonsense.
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I don't, and won't, use Twitter and Facebook. If folk want info then slap it on the website. There are loads of Social Media applications out there, should we be spending time and money on updating all of those too? No thanks. Stick it on the main site and that's fine.
Do you know how social media works? It doesn't cost anything.
I think he was probably referring to the fact that somebody would have to take the time (and therefore money) to update the twitter feed, the facebok page, the website, etc, etc
I quite like the idea of Alty pigeon post (a meal and a message in one).
That is what I was on about yes. The more apps you want to update the more you need to commit. Why just those two, why not all the other Social Media. Once you start it is increasingly hard to stop...so don't start.
Or you know some dead clever person could event an app that updates all of them at once. Perhaps name it something clever llike tweetdeck...
Hang on..
I've never heard of tweetdeck and doubt I'm the only one. As a man in his 40s I wasn't brought up with social media and the internet whereas people 20 years younger were so they probably find it quite bizarre that some have never heard of a lot of apps let alone don't know how to use them.
I dont doubt nobdoy has heard of tweetdeck but its how you can run 8 different social media accounts from one person.
I for the record wasnt broughy up with social media. 2/3rds of my life were spent with out it.
The fact is the world changes. My grandparents use social media. Like many didnt get it, and gavie it a go and love it.
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The club doesn't run Facebook and Twitter accounts in an attempt to drag 50 year old John from Timperley into the 21st century. Everyone is more than entitled to go about acquiring information in whatever way they wish. No one has ever said "right, get Facebook or you'll just have to miss out."
The absolute fact of the matter is that if you want this club to expand its fan base, and acquire a new generation of supporters, then we're going to have to cater for them and their means of keeping up to date with the club. For them its Facebook and Twitter whether you all think its pointless (it isn't) or not.
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Its okay to admit youre not smart enough to use it xx
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Viva la yoof x
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The club doesn't run Facebook and Twitter accounts in an attempt to drag 50 year old John from Timperley into the 21st century. Everyone is more than entitled to go about acquiring information in whatever way they wish. No one has ever said "right, get Facebook or you'll just have to miss out."
The absolute fact of the matter is that if you want this club to expand its fan base, and acquire a new generation of supporters, then we're going to have to cater for them and their means of keeping up to date with the club. For them its Facebook and Twitter whether you all think its pointless (it isn't) or not.
That was actually the point I was trying to make,I just didn't do it very well! The majority of youngsters live their life on their mobile phones whereas the older generation use the internet in the spare time.
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Freakin 'ek, I've only recently learnt how to send a text message
Steve from Sale - aged 58 and 11/12ths!!
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The club doesn't run Facebook and Twitter accounts in an attempt to drag 50 year old John from Timperley into the 21st century. Everyone is more than entitled to go about acquiring information in whatever way they wish. No one has ever said "right, get Facebook or you'll just have to miss out."
The absolute fact of the matter is that if you want this club to expand its fan base, and acquire a new generation of supporters, then we're going to have to cater for them and their means of keeping up to date with the club. For them its Facebook and Twitter whether you all think its pointless (it isn't) or not.
100% correct.
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It's not an age thing, it's a mindset thing. Social media is ridiculously simple; my parents, both in their late 60s, have grasped it with ease.
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It's not an age thing, it's a mindset thing. Social media is ridiculously simple; my parents, both in their late 60s, have grasped it with ease.
Or a matter of choice
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People seem very anti-social media because they personally don't want to use it. That fine. That's your prerogative.
Don't try and shout down new avenues of information and then moan that the club don't inform fans easily enough of things.
I have only used social media for 8 of my 25 years. I don't use Twitter often, but I run a fundraising account on it. Showing potential sponsors about the amount of followers you have and promising them a few tweets to x number of people is priceless. The same goes with Facebook, Instagram, snapchat. You name it, people are always looking to grow their customer base. If the club have 6000 followers it's also a way of drawing sponsorship, and companies would pay more advertising space for more followers.
It's so simple, I just don't see why everyone is so averse to it.
Also, the club already have Facebook and Twitter matchday updates run by two volunteers. They don't get paid to run that.
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The only issue was people were talking about transferring the forum onto social media. I'm all for using social media to spread the word of the club etc.
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Arsed
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Arsed enough to post
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People seem very anti-social media because they personally don't want to use it. That fine. That's your prerogative.
Don't try and shout down new avenues of information and then moan that the club don't inform fans easily enough of things.
I have only used social media for 8 of my 25 years. I don't use Twitter often, but I run a fundraising account on it. Showing potential sponsors about the amount of followers you have and promising them a few tweets to x number of people is priceless. The same goes with Facebook, Instagram, snapchat. You name it, people are always looking to grow their customer base. If the club have 6000 followers it's also a way of drawing sponsorship, and companies would pay more advertising space for more followers.
It's so simple, I just don't see why everyone is so averse to it.
Also, the club already have Facebook and Twitter matchday updates run by two volunteers. They don't get paid to run that.
Nobody has said don't use social media. I use Twitter to see the matchday updates. I'm all for the club using every means it can to attract new fans. What I, and others, are saying is we don't need to discard the current means we have, they can be improved. There's loads of people we can attract to the club young and old. The website, this forum, local press and radio are great means of communication if used correctly. And yes all the other things that have come along are just as important.
And the assertiion that someone doesn't use social media because they're old or because they're on some personal punk crusade is plain insulting.
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People seem very anti-social media because they personally don't want to use it. That fine. That's your prerogative.
Don't try and shout down new avenues of information and then moan that the club don't inform fans easily enough of things.
I have only used social media for 8 of my 25 years. I don't use Twitter often, but I run a fundraising account on it. Showing potential sponsors about the amount of followers you have and promising them a few tweets to x number of people is priceless. The same goes with Facebook, Instagram, snapchat. You name it, people are always looking to grow their customer base. If the club have 6000 followers it's also a way of drawing sponsorship, and companies would pay more advertising space for more followers.
It's so simple, I just don't see why everyone is so averse to it.
Also, the club already have Facebook and Twitter matchday updates run by two volunteers. They don't get paid to run that.
Nobody has said don't use social media. I use Twitter to see the matchday updates. I'm all for the club using every means it can to attract new fans. What I, and others, are saying is we don't need to discard the current means we have, they can be improved. There's loads of people we can attract to the club young and old. The website, this forum, local press and radio are great means of communication if used correctly. And yes all the other things that have come along are just as important.
And the assertiion that someone doesn't use social media because they're old or because they're on some personal punk crusade is plain insulting.
Please highlight where I have said that. I have also not suggested getting rid of the website.
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For those interested, I've volunteered on the social media along with Simon for coming up to 3 years now. In that time, we have grown the Twitter following from 2000 to over 12200 followers. We cover all info from the main site and all match day activity including play by play updates for every home and away game. The support and engagement we receive on there has no doubt helped raise the profile of the club and I am extremely proud of the work we have done in that time, along with the excellent work Ecky does on Facebook. Considering we all work full time I think we do as well as we possibly can, but of course the more people who volunteer/get involved the better these channels will get.
In December Simon and I are both taking a step back from volunteering as our first baby is due. I am happy that fans like Jack and @wearealty are exploring our social channels and showing a keen interest in developing this key area. The future looks bright for our social media and I am looking forward to seeing how things progress.
I understand that some fans do not wish to use social media personally and that is understandable - but there are over 12,000 people who do want to hear from Alty on Twitter so it is a hugely important channel for the club.
I don't post on here very often but wanted to give some insight, take it or leave it.
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For those interested, I've volunteered on the social media along with Simon for coming up to 3 years now. In that time, we have grown the Twitter following from 2000 to over 12200 followers. We cover all info from the main site and all match day activity including play by play updates for every home and away game. The support and engagement we receive on there has no doubt helped raise the profile of the club and I am extremely proud of the work we have done in that time, along with the excellent work Ecky does on Facebook. Considering we all work full time I think we do as well as we possibly can, but of course the more people who volunteer/get involved the better these channels will get.
In December Simon and I are both taking a step back from volunteering as our first baby is due. I am happy that fans like Jack and @wearealty are exploring our social channels and showing a keen interest in developing this key area. The future looks bright for our social media and I am looking forward to seeing how things progress.
I understand that some fans do not wish to use social media personally and that is understandable - but there are over 12,000 people who do want to hear from Alty on Twitter so it is a hugely important channel for the club.
I don't post on here very often but wanted to give some insight, take it or leave it.
Its been great watching you guys grow the account into what it is today. Thank you for all for your hard work, hoping me and Jack can grow it further!
The bold statement is all I'm getting at, really. Its just frustrating that people seem to neglect that fact based on their own personal preferences.
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People seem very anti-social media because they personally don't want to use it. That fine. That's your prerogative.
Don't try and shout down new avenues of information and then moan that the club don't inform fans easily enough of things.
I have only used social media for 8 of my 25 years. I don't use Twitter often, but I run a fundraising account on it. Showing potential sponsors about the amount of followers you have and promising them a few tweets to x number of people is priceless. The same goes with Facebook, Instagram, snapchat. You name it, people are always looking to grow their customer base. If the club have 6000 followers it's also a way of drawing sponsorship, and companies would pay more advertising space for more followers.
It's so simple, I just don't see why everyone is so averse to it.
Also, the club already have Facebook and Twitter matchday updates run by two volunteers. They don't get paid to run that.
Nobody has said don't use social media. I use Twitter to see the matchday updates. I'm all for the club using every means it can to attract new fans. What I, and others, are saying is we don't need to discard the current means we have, they can be improved. There's loads of people we can attract to the club young and old. The website, this forum, local press and radio are great means of communication if used correctly. And yes all the other things that have come along are just as important.
And the assertiion that someone doesn't use social media because they're old or because they're on some personal punk crusade is plain insulting.
Please highlight where I have said that. I have also not suggested getting rid of the website.
I never said you did. You misquoted people's point of view, I was making a point about the general sentiment of thread being a bit 'us and you'. That's the end of it really from me. The fans have enough to debate about without having a tit for tat over this.
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It's not an age thing, it's a mindset thing. Social media is ridiculously simple; my parents, both in their late 60s, have grasped it with ease.
Or a matter of choice
Are the two mutually exclusive?
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This forum could start an argument in an empty room
We must be running out of people to fall out with soon ..
Well done to all that give there time for free to the club ;D
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There are many posts on this forum by people suggesting things could be done better.
I think the saying goes: if you are not part of the solution, you must be part of the problem.
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This forum could start an argument in an empty room
We must be running out of people to fall out with soon ..
Well done to all that give there time for free to the club ;D
Apart from photographers who spend more time on twitter than taking pictures
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This forum could start an argument in an empty room
We must be running out of people to fall out with soon ..
Well done to all that give there time for free to the club ;D
Apart from photographers who spend more time on twitter than taking pictures
And Instagram. And Facebook.
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This forum could start an argument in an empty room
We must be running out of people to fall out with soon ..
Well done to all that give there time for free to the club ;D
Apart from photographers who spend more time on twitter than taking pictures
And Instagram. And Facebook.
it's this lapsadaisy attitude that has got us into this mess
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This forum could start an argument in an empty room
We must be running out of people to fall out with soon ..
Well done to all that give there time for free to the club ;D
Apart from photographers who spend more time on twitter than taking pictures
And Instagram. And Facebook.
it's this lapsadaisy attitude that has got us into this mess
I demand an immediate inquiry, starting with a Twitter poll.
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Apologies if I've come across as abrasive here, that's not my intent. I think I've been pretty well reasoned with my posts... I don't know why people are seeing the thread as argumentative.
It's a constructive topic, it's good to get a gauge of who uses what to get their information about the club. The younger generation is the one we need to target as a club and that's what we plan to do through our official Twitter channel coupled with my personal blog which I'll continue on the side.
Thanks all.
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Apologies if I've come across as abrasive here, that's not my intent. I think I've been pretty well reasoned with my posts... I don't know why people are seeing the thread as argumentative.
It's a constructive topic, it's good to get a gauge of who uses what to get their information about the club. The younger generation is the one we need to target as a club and that's what we plan to do through our official Twitter channel coupled with my personal blog which I'll continue on the side.
Thanks all.
Well I'll be 20 soon so definitely agree about engaging the youth
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I don't personally care if we publicise via Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat....provided that it's as well as the forum, not instead of it.
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The more mediums we use to get information out the better imo. Anything of importance appears on the forum quickly.
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Apologies if I've come across as abrasive here, that's not my intent. I think I've been pretty well reasoned with my posts... I don't know why people are seeing the thread as argumentative.
It's a constructive topic, it's good to get a gauge of who uses what to get their information about the club. The younger generation is the one we need to target as a club and that's what we plan to do through our official Twitter channel coupled with my personal blog which I'll continue on the side.
Thanks all.
Well I'll be 20 soon so definitely agree about engaging the youth
And still getting in for under 16 ;)
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Or you know some dead clever person could event an app that updates all of them at once. Perhaps name it something clever llike tweetdeck...
Hang on..
That assumes you're happy with exactly the same content being posted on each platform (which of course in the case of Twitter is somewhat limited).
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the "instead of a forum" mentioned on another thread, not this one?
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The more mediums we use to get information out the better imo. Anything of importance appears on the forum quickly.
we could have done with a good fortune teller at the back end of last season 😎
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The more mediums we use to get information out the better imo. Anything of importance appears on the forum quickly.
(http://www.link4life.org/images/middleton-arena-whats-on/derek-acorah-2016-tour.jpg)
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The more mediums we use to get information out the better imo. Anything of importance appears on the forum quickly.
(http://www.link4life.org/images/middleton-arena-whats-on/derek-acorah-2016-tour.jpg)
Get him into the club house
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the "instead of a forum" mentioned on another thread, not this one?
Yes. I'm merely clarifying my position on an active thread.