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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: whopper on November 21, 2012, 10:54:05 AM
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With all this in terms of managers being sacked we must have the lowest turnover in non league football lately.
Im guessing we are the most patient club in our division???
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Patient could also be understood as stupid and too soft.
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Patient could also be understood as stupid and too soft.
I remember the days when managers in the top flight were given time to achieve things. The world of football has changed with the amount of money flying around the Premier League and the player power which now undermines too many managers.
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It all depends circumstances in this case he was very unlucky to go I'd be bemused how I win the European cup and mark Hughes keeps his job
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Nobody is surprised by RDM, surely? Chelsea have always been a horrid football club and now they have a trigger-happy bat sh*t insane owner. It'd have been a miracle if he'd lasted the season.
Appointing Benitez though... :D :D :D
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Nobody is surprised by RDM, surely? Chelsea have always been a horrid football club and now they have a trigger-happy bat sh*t insane owner. It'd have been a miracle if he'd lasted the season.
Appointing Benitez though... :D :D :D
I can only assume they think he'll be the one manager who can revive Torres.
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Nobody is surprised by RDM, surely? Chelsea have always been a horrid football club and now they have a trigger-happy bat sh*t insane owner. It'd have been a miracle if he'd lasted the season.
Appointing Benitez though... :D :D :D
I can only assume they think he'll be the one manager who can revive Torres.
The only thing that could revive Torres is one of these ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPRINGER-MAGRATH-34-SHAFT-COMPLETE-UNIT-ELECTRIC-CATTLE-PROD-SHOCKER-LIVESTOCK-/160852085738?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2573880bea
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Nobody is surprised by RDM, surely? Chelsea have always been a horrid football club and now they have a trigger-happy bat sh*t insane owner. It'd have been a miracle if he'd lasted the season.
Appointing Benitez though... :D :D :D
I can only assume they think he'll be the one manager who can revive Torres.
The only thing that could revive Torres is one of these ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPRINGER-MAGRATH-34-SHAFT-COMPLETE-UNIT-ELECTRIC-CATTLE-PROD-SHOCKER-LIVESTOCK-/160852085738?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2573880bea
Possibly, have a Goodwin ! But Rafa will give him the TLC he needs, and if he rediscovers his Anfield mojo.....
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TLC? I'd say one of the reasons Torres' powers have declined so rapidly is that Benitez consistently asked him to play when he was less than 100% fit. And he was forced to do that because he never signed an adequate back-up/alternative.
It takes its toll on the body, does that.
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TLC? I'd say one of the reasons Torres' powers have declined so rapidly is that Benitez consistently asked him to play when he was less than 100% fit. And he was forced to do that because he never signed an adequate back-up/alternative.
It takes its toll on the body, does that.
I must admit that my best mate, who's a Liverpool season ticket holder, did say at the time of his exit that Torres felt he was abused in that respect.
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It all depends circumstances in this case he was very unlucky to go I'd be bemused how I win the European cup and mark Hughes keeps his job
He didn't after this morning. This constant recycling of managers is a pathetic spectacle. It's another reason to ignore the prem - it's bloated and boring.
Bring me lower league fare every time. More honesty, more the footy I want to see, standing up, crap tea etc. You can shove yer prawn sandwiches where the sun don't shine.
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It all depends circumstances in this case he was very unlucky to go I'd be bemused how I win the European cup and mark Hughes keeps his job
He didn't after this morning. This constant recycling of managers is a pathetic spectacle. It's another reason to ignore the prem - it's bloated and boring.
Bring me lower league fare every time. More honesty, more the footy I want to see, standing up, crap tea etc. You can shove yer prawn sandwiches where the sun don't shine.
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That'll be the UK then :D
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Mark Hughes with the money he has spent would've and shouldev been sacked
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Mark Hughes with the money he has spent would've and shouldev been sacked
Great player, crap manager. I don't think he has the "people skills" for the job. There's much more to it than being a decent coach with a cheque book to wave around.
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Great player, crap manager. I don't think he has the "people skills" for the job. There's much more to it than being a decent coach with a cheque book to wave around.
Sorry to disagree with you again, but I'd hardly say "crap".
He did very well with Wales, converting them from a laughing stock into a good international team capable of beating Italy and very nearly qualifying for a major tournament.
He took Blackburn from relegation strugglers to European qualifiers.
I don't think he's particularly fantastic or anything, but he's proven he can manage football teams well. We have a tendnncy in this country to label managers "sh*t" if they fail anywhere. It's silly, really.
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The move from Blackburn to City has killed his managerial career. QPR is a poor mans Real Madrid 'Galaticos', a group of good individual players, but no fight or spirit of a team.
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Nobody is surprised by RDM, surely? Chelsea have always been a horrid football club and now they have a trigger-happy bat sh*t insane owner. It'd have been a miracle if he'd lasted the season.
Appointing Benitez though... :D :D :D
Bit bizarre your laughing at a man who has won the best league in the world and won the european cup but your defending hughes
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Bit bizarre your laughing at a man who has won the best league in the world and won the european cup but your defending hughes
Benitez has his strengths. His tactical awareness is certainly good and his achievements with Valencia impressive.
However, his last two jobs involved absolutely ruining Liverpool (left them 7th in the league, outside the CL with a poor squad) and in a few short months also ruining the Inter team that had conquered all and sundry the season before.
I'm laughing at the appointment because Chelsea have just sacked a manager that had won them two cups and was doing pretty well in the league. If they think Benitez is the answer given his recent track record with really big teams with big expectations, I'd suggest they're sorely mistaken. In fact, despite defending Hughes against accusations of being "crap", I'd also laugh my head off if they'd appointed him.
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Bit bizarre your laughing at a man who has won the best league in the world and won the european cup but your defending hughes
Benitez has his strengths. His tactical awareness is certainly good and his achievements with Valencia impressive.
However, his last two jobs involved absolutely ruining Liverpool (left them 7th in the league, outside the CL with a poor squad) and in a few short months also ruining the Inter team that had conquered all and sundry the season before.
I'm laughing at the appointment because Chelsea have just sacked a manager that had won them two cups and was doing pretty well in the league. If they think Benitez is the answer given his recent track record with really big teams with big expectations, I'd suggest they're sorely mistaken. In fact, despite defending Hughes against accusations of being "crap", I'd also laugh my head off if they'd appointed him.
maybe they employed Benitez to make the next manager look better!
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Bit bizarre your laughing at a man who has won the best league in the world and won the european cup but your defending hughes
Benitez has his strengths. His tactical awareness is certainly good and his achievements with Valencia impressive.
However, his last two jobs involved absolutely ruining Liverpool (left them 7th in the league, outside the CL with a poor squad) and in a few short months also ruining the Inter team that had conquered all and sundry the season before.
I'm laughing at the appointment because Chelsea have just sacked a manager that had won them two cups and was doing pretty well in the league. If they think Benitez is the answer given his recent track record with really big teams with big expectations, I'd suggest they're sorely mistaken. In fact, despite defending Hughes against accusations of being "crap", I'd also laugh my head off if they'd appointed him.
Did he absolutely ruin Liverpool? Not sure they were that much better when he took over, a bit yes but he did win them the CL (and runners up) and the FA Cup. I think a Liverpool fan would say it was Hicks & Gillet who ruined them. Benitez's time ha djust run out I think.
But in answer to the original question, we've only had 4 managers in 17 years so yes.
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Bit bizarre your laughing at a man who has won the best league in the world and won the european cup but your defending hughes
Benitez has his strengths. His tactical awareness is certainly good and his achievements with Valencia impressive.
However, his last two jobs involved absolutely ruining Liverpool (left them 7th in the league, outside the CL with a poor squad) and in a few short months also ruining the Inter team that had conquered all and sundry the season before.
I'm laughing at the appointment because Chelsea have just sacked a manager that had won them two cups and was doing pretty well in the league. If they think Benitez is the answer given his recent track record with really big teams with big expectations, I'd suggest they're sorely mistaken. In fact, despite defending Hughes against accusations of being "crap", I'd also laugh my head off if they'd appointed him.
Did he absolutely ruin Liverpool? Not sure they were that much better when he took over, a bit yes but he did win them the CL (and runners up) and the FA Cup. I think a Liverpool fan would say it was Hicks & Gillet who ruined them. Benitez's time ha djust run out I think.
But in answer to the original question, we've only had 4 managers in 17 years so yes.
4 in 17 years bloody hell we must be a poor managers dream.
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Bit bizarre your laughing at a man who has won the best league in the world and won the european cup but your defending hughes
Benitez has his strengths. His tactical awareness is certainly good and his achievements with Valencia impressive.
However, his last two jobs involved absolutely ruining Liverpool (left them 7th in the league, outside the CL with a poor squad) and in a few short months also ruining the Inter team that had conquered all and sundry the season before.
I'm laughing at the appointment because Chelsea have just sacked a manager that had won them two cups and was doing pretty well in the league. If they think Benitez is the answer given his recent track record with really big teams with big expectations, I'd suggest they're sorely mistaken. In fact, despite defending Hughes against accusations of being "crap", I'd also laugh my head off if they'd appointed him.
Did he absolutely ruin Liverpool? Not sure they were that much better when he took over, a bit yes but he did win them the CL (and runners up) and the FA Cup. I think a Liverpool fan would say it was Hicks & Gillet who ruined them. Benitez's time ha djust run out I think.
But in answer to the original question, we've only had 4 managers in 17 years so yes.
4 in 17 years bloody hell we must be a poor managers dream.
It's a great stat. Not actually true though.
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Did he absolutely ruin Liverpool? Not sure they were that much better when he took over, a bit yes but he did win them the CL (and runners up) and the FA Cup. I think a Liverpool fan would say it was Hicks & Gillet who ruined them. Benitez's time ha djust run out I think.
But in answer to the original question, we've only had 4 managers in 17 years so yes.
They were a CL team when he took over. Hence having the chance to have a crack at it in his first season. And even then, the consensus was that Houllier had underachieved in his last season or two.
He certainly left them in a poorer state than he found them. Blaming the (admittedly awful) owners doesn't really cut it. He still had money and he still coached the players. Annoying and ultimately having to sell Xabi Alonso as part of a mad quest to sign Gareth Barry has to be one of the most embarrassing transfer episodes in Liverpool's history.
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Did he absolutely ruin Liverpool? Not sure they were that much better when he took over, a bit yes but he did win them the CL (and runners up) and the FA Cup. I think a Liverpool fan would say it was Hicks & Gillet who ruined them. Benitez's time ha djust run out I think.
But in answer to the original question, we've only had 4 managers in 17 years so yes.
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You are right. However, a Liverpool fan will always blame someone else as its Scouse mentality that nothing is ever their own fault. The problem with Liverpool has not been the managers or even directors, but their supporters and you can see this with all the empty Anfield seats these days. They are obsessed with and jealous of the continuing success at Manchester United, who have dominated British football for the past 20 years on similar financial resources/backers.
From an Alty perspective, we do not have the money to be hiring and firing managers at will. I am envious of the likes of Fleetwood, AFC Wimbledon, Wigan and Stevenage and I have always wanted to see Altrincham as a Football League Club. On the other hand, I would not want to risk going the same way as Maidstone, Scarborough, Vics and soon to follow these will be Macc.
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Bit odd you can't blame the fans for the sides lack of success besides do they have many empty seats from an alty point are club is financially in a good state and I'm not sure it's a lack of ambition I find it wrong choices
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Did he absolutely ruin Liverpool? Not sure they were that much better when he took over, a bit yes but he did win them the CL (and runners up) and the FA Cup. I think a Liverpool fan would say it was Hicks & Gillet who ruined them. Benitez's time ha djust run out I think.
But in answer to the original question, we've only had 4 managers in 17 years so yes.
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You are right. However, a Liverpool fan will always blame someone else as its Scouse mentality that nothing is ever their own fault. The problem with Liverpool has not been the managers or even directors, but their supporters and you can see this with all the empty Anfield seats these days. They are obsessed with and jealous of the continuing success at Manchester United, who have dominated British football for the past 20 years on similar financial resources/backers.
From an Alty perspective, we do not have the money to be hiring and firing managers at will. I am envious of the likes of Fleetwood, AFC Wimbledon, Wigan and Stevenage and I have always wanted to see Altrincham as a Football League Club. On the other hand, I would not want to risk going the same way as Maidstone, Scarborough, Vics and soon to follow these will be Macc.
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There is some truth in this.
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It's a game of two halves
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But in answer to the original question, we've only had 4 managers in 17 years so yes.
4 in 17 years bloody hell we must be a poor managers dream.
It's a great stat. Not actually true though.
You're quite right Leon, I totally and utterly forgot anout Mark Ward. I went King- Taylor - Heatchote - Sinnott. When in fact it's King-Taylor-Ward-Taylor-Heathcote-Sinnott (I think!) So 6 managers (5 people), still fairly stable though.
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But in answer to the original question, we've only had 4 managers in 17 years so yes.
4 in 17 years bloody hell we must be a poor managers dream.
It's a great stat. Not actually true though.
You're quite right Leon, I totally and utterly forgot anout Mark Ward. I went King- Taylor - Heatchote - Sinnott. When in fact it's King-Taylor-Ward-Taylor-Heathcote-Sinnott (I think!) So 6 managers (5 people), still fairly stable though.
Ballers,
How could you forget Ken McKenna...?!