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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Jezza on February 28, 2017, 04:52:47 PM
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Lets see....bearing in mind the forum may or may not be the best representation of average alty fans.
So are we thriving or driving down sh*t creek with a faulty sat nav?
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Rowley Out
Rowley Out
Rowley Out
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When does the voting end ?
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It's inconclusive because there are enough people who have voted for Rowley out but remain to swing the vote either way if they had to choose go or stay.
On what basis will people be walking out of the ground in two weeks? Rowley out or Rowley step down a rung?
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It's inconclusive because there are enough people who have voted for Rowley out but remain to swing the vote either way if they had to choose go or stay.
On what basis will people be walking out of the ground in two weeks? Rowley out or Rowley step down a rung?
Well, technically neither want him as chairman.
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It's inconclusive because there are enough people who have voted for Rowley out but remain to swing the vote either way if they had to choose go or stay.
On what basis will people be walking out of the ground in two weeks? Rowley out or Rowley step down a rung?
As someone who will be walking out, I voted resign but stay at the club.
Nobody doubts the work has done or continues to do. It's the fact he refuses to build bridges with the fans which makes it almost impossible to reunite the fan base in any way. That's why I don't think his position as chairman is tenable.
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For me its about being responsible for some dreadful managerial appointments. Accountability.
Mr. Rowley must go.
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Sorry, I wasn't asking you to indicate your stance to me. I just think that when this walkout takes place the message should not be open to interpretation. You all need to be clear about what you are asking for.
Personally, I don't want to see the guy go but the worst case scenario as I see it is that Mr Rowley steps down but stays on the board and half of the protesters still aren't happy.
A line does need to be drawn under this some how.
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22% no
Looking forward to this figure shooting up when the club offices open tomorrow!!
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I too opted for option 3
The club could become more united and the excellent legacy of community work can continue if the right thing is done.
The longer this goes on the more divided the fanbase will be and the community work will be less appreciated.
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I voted for option 3 too - it's the right one for the club.
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who would yoy replace grahame with?
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who would yoy replace grahame with?
By that do you mean he should go and are wondering who the next guy could be,; or that he should stay because he will be difficult to replace?
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who would yoy replace grahame with?
I never understand why this line is trotted out regularly. It's the responsibility of the board & shareholders to identify appoint a new chairman, not the supporters. As pointed out on another thread, when Geoff Goodwin took over, how many people on this forum would have nominated him in response to a similar question?
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who would yoy replace grahame with?
Who wouldn't you replace him with?
As football club - we should be judged from the playing side, not how well the books balance or how many people attend yoga in the community hall.
From a footballing perspective we have reached rock bottom and are still sinking. I don't see how the club would be in a lower position if a child had been running the club for the past two years.
I know Grahame has done well at balancing the books and getting the community side together, but this is first and foremost a football club. So maybe let someone who can improve the footballing side of things take over the reins. If Grahame wants to work as part of the community hall then let him be in charge of running that, but he shouldn't be involved with any of the football aspect.
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ROWLEY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ROWLEY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Resign and let him have a job serving pints behind the bar
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I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be able to have a preferred opinion in terms of what else Graham Rowley would be better suited to than being chairman - i.e. Vice chairman, community director, barman etc. But ultimately that should be a decision for the new chairman coming in. Would he want the ex-chairman in a prominent position? Would Graham Rowley even think the relationship was workable having previously clung on so desperately to being the chairman? Who knows.
The most, and only, important thing for now is that he goes. Exactly what that looks like for him moving forward can be worked through later.
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Yes although we are thriving
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I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be able to have a preferred opinion in terms of what else Graham Rowley would be better suited to than being chairman - i.e. Vice chairman, community director, barman etc. But ultimately that should be a decision for the new chairman coming in. Would he want the ex-chairman in a prominent position? Would Graham Rowley even think the relationship was workable having previously clung on so desperately to being the chairman? Who knows.
The most, and only, important thing for now is that he goes. Exactly what that looks like for him moving forward can be worked through later.
I dont think he is clinging on desperately. It seems a pretty comfortable post to me. He's appointing new directors, I assume in the hope they can turn the clubs fortunes around. I think he is just not at the point of realisation yet that his position is no longer sustainable. It seems that a lot of fans believe that point has been reached.
I think he could do a good job for the club, his passion and commitment is undoubted. Is he the person to lead the club and make the ultimate call on big decisions on the footballing side, which ultimately dictate the rest? I think that question answers itself.
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i voted No, if there are people out there with money to invest,why are they not on the board and putting their money into the club,again who would you replace him with?
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i voted No, if there are people out there with money to invest,why are they not on the board and putting their money into the club,again who would you replace him with?
To be honest, that particular argument is becoming a little bit tired hsmith. My cat could equally have taken us down this year.
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i voted No, if there are people out there with money to invest,why are they not on the board and putting their money into the club,again who would you replace him with?
Bill waterson
Jonathon Wall
Mike Adams
John Henderson
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If a chairman who has alienated more than a few fans and has presided over two successive relegations is irreplaceable then we might as well shut down now.
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i voted No, if there are people out there with money to invest,why are they not on the board and putting their money into the club,again who would you replace him with?
Bill waterson
Jonathon Wall
Mike Adams
John Henderson
Rowley in
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i voted No, if there are people out there with money to invest,why are they not on the board and putting their money into the club,again who would you replace him with?
Bill waterson
Jonathon Wall
Mike Adams
John Henderson
Rowley in
Someone had to say it!
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I'd endorse Graham being made club president (aware that is not in my power). I feel we owe a lot, but I feel on balance its time for a change
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If a chairman who has alienated more than a few fans and has presided over two successive relegations is irreplaceable then we might as well shut down now.
Exactly.
i'd go further to say that his extraordinary contribution to the running of the club which goes way beyond any wages he could take from the club on a regular basis are partly responsible to him taking his eye off the ball so badly, and thats by his own admission.
Maybe we need a chairman who sits at the top and isnt so involved in the nuts and bolts.
The idea that this person doesnt exist because they aren't screaming out in public they are ready to take over needs to be forgotten.
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I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be able to have a preferred opinion in terms of what else Graham Rowley would be better suited to than being chairman - i.e. Vice chairman, community director, barman etc. But ultimately that should be a decision for the new chairman coming in. Would he want the ex-chairman in a prominent position? Would Graham Rowley even think the relationship was workable having previously clung on so desperately to being the chairman? Who knows.
The most, and only, important thing for now is that he goes. Exactly what that looks like for him moving forward can be worked through later.
I dont think he is clinging on desperately. It seems a pretty comfortable post to me. He's appointing new directors, I assume in the hope they can turn the clubs fortunes around. I think he is just not at the point of realisation yet that his position is no longer sustainable. It seems that a lot of fans believe that point has been reached.
Yes, that's a fair point mate. We can disagree on the definition of clinging on, but the point I was making was more from a hypothetical (although some might think unlikely) position where Graham Rowley has left his position, wasn't best pleased about it, and what would happen next in that scenario. It would then be for a new chairman to decide what he/she wants from the team around them and what position each individual should occupy moving forward.
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Resign and let him have a job serving pints behind the bar
Spot on
He can even clean the toilets as well
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I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be able to have a preferred opinion in terms of what else Graham Rowley would be better suited to than being chairman - i.e. Vice chairman, community director, barman etc. But ultimately that should be a decision for the new chairman coming in. Would he want the ex-chairman in a prominent position? Would Graham Rowley even think the relationship was workable having previously clung on so desperately to being the chairman? Who knows.
The most, and only, important thing for now is that he goes. Exactly what that looks like for him moving forward can be worked through later.
I dont think he is clinging on desperately. It seems a pretty comfortable post to me. He's appointing new directors, I assume in the hope they can turn the clubs fortunes around. I think he is just not at the point of realisation yet that his position is no longer sustainable. It seems that a lot of fans believe that point has been reached.
Yes, that's a fair point mate. We can disagree on the definition of clinging on, but the point I was making was more from a hypothetical (although some might think unlikely) position where Graham Rowley has left his position, wasn't best pleased about it, and what would happen next in that scenario. It would then be for a new chairman to decide what he/she wants from the team around them and what position each individual should occupy moving forward.
I completely agree on that. Maybe that's why it's such a big thing. Would he and his family want to continue to give so much if he's completely frozen out of the board? I wouldn't blame him for walking away but what would he do? Behind this is several human beings with lives completely devout to the club. It's not easy but it doesn't mean he has a right to kill the club.
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Does anyone know the actual mechanics and process that would have to be followed if Mr Rowley did decide to step down from the Chairman role but agreed to stay on the Board?
How do possible replacements become nominated.....is it by invitation from the Board or application to the Board when the vacancy was announced.
I appreciate the above is purely hypothetical but it as well to know the process the majority of people who have voted, would prefer to see enacted.
It is not totally inconceivable that Mr Rowley does recognise himself that he was a great success as Vice Chairman but that he has clearly failed as Chairman. He is not stupid and must surely recognise that he is the first Chairman in living history that has presided over a team that is financially stable and not in debt but whose performances on the pitch were classified as the' worst in English football'.
You would have to be an ostrich not to recognise that this happening on your watch has to rank as an example of undoubted failure and if you truly loved the club, as we all believe he does, he might recognise that it was the benefit of the club that he should revert back to the role where he was successful and let someone else take a turn at the helm.
Or am I naive dreamer ? Answers on a postcard to The Moss Lane Home For the Delusional.
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There is no question that GR and his family have put a lot of effort into the club. Yet, if he didnt, there would be other people who would collectively put in the same amount of time and effort.
The review does have some interesting pieces in there, but for me, GR is not the person to take the review or Alty further.
He has presided over the worst showing in our history. The appointment of Tolson & Young were abject failures. Harvey inherited a load of rubbish and coudnt do much with it, same with Doughty.
In addition to the footballing, GR has shown continued inability to communicate effectively with the paying supporters.
From confronting fans at Braintree, the NLP article, the public shaming of "supporters" despite no evidence being shown that an Altrincham supporter was involved in any wrongdoing etc. This is not what the chairman should be doing.
GR has lost support from me.
GR may work well on the community side of things, but this should not be a cloud over any incoming Chairman.
Its not a case of no one being out there to take the role. There wasnt anyone when Goodwin took the job.