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Title: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 01:55:32 PM
Commentary is here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_conf/7656823.stm

We're going to need a top performance and nothing less today. Good luck to Graham and the lads!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 02:23:15 PM
Trying to get it on my laptop here at work,but the wifi hi is a bit iffy,may have to settle for text commentary on the works PC.
Just a thought Gh says we have 29 points at Xmas with another 21 needed in the New Year,has he forgotten todays game? we could have 32 by Xmas with the right result today.
Come on you Robins
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 02:25:10 PM
Coburn
Smith
Young
McGregor
Doughty
Meechan
Densmore
Danylyk
Peyton
Little
Senior

Subs

Ralph
O'Neill
Johnson
Elam
Lane

Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 02:31:07 PM
Trying to get it on my laptop here at work,but the wifi hi is a bit iffy,may have to settle for text commentary on the works PC.
Just a thought Gh says we have 29 points at Xmas with another 21 needed in the New Year,has he forgotten todays game? we could have 32 by Xmas with the right result today.
Come on you Robins

Fair point. To be honest I think we might well need more than 50 points the way this league is shaping up. Would be ecstatic with a point today.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 02:40:15 PM
Same here and all 3 would be out of this world,lets hope so ,i fancy a trip to mars
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 02:42:22 PM
Same here and all 3 would be out of this world,lets hope so ,i fancy a trip to mars

Given the seasonal timing of the fixture I would happily substitute Mars for Lapland!   ;)   ;D
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 02:46:22 PM
Blast looks like the wifi connection has gone offline,just come back on
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 02:53:10 PM
Currently getting commentary from Derby v Watford!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 02:55:33 PM
0-0 at the moment though
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 02:56:26 PM
To quote Ian Brown:

"The BBC are a bunch of amateurs!"
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: RedhillAlty on December 20, 2008, 02:57:18 PM
I am also getting Derby v Watford
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 02:58:14 PM
and i am not even getting that wish i was at home then i would at least get some commentary.All the BBC text says is the game has begun wow
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 02:59:15 PM
wonder why Johnson and Elam are on the bench?
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: altyusa on December 20, 2008, 03:07:37 PM
Still Derby v Watford  :-\  Anyone any ideas?
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: RedhillAlty on December 20, 2008, 03:08:05 PM
Macc 0-2 down at home to Daggers after only 7 mins
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 03:08:52 PM
Why advertise a game commentary then not do it.
26%to us Burton must be all over us
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: altyusa on December 20, 2008, 03:12:39 PM
Vics 1 up....
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:13:38 PM
Hallelujah! Commentary now working.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: blackpoolalty on December 20, 2008, 03:13:47 PM
Why advertise a game commentary then not do it.
26%to us Burton must be all over us

Would assume that commentary and live commentary is probably the difference.

Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:15:19 PM
My source at the game says we are playing the dreaded 4-4-2 formation again.

Why are we doing this when we had a different system that was winning us games?
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:16:05 PM
This commentator is as camp as a row of tents!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: blackpoolalty on December 20, 2008, 03:16:59 PM
This commentator is as camp as a row of tents!

Oooh Matron !
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:18:57 PM
Webster - "10 years at the Pirelli Stadium"

Highly unlikely as 10 years ago it didn't exist.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 03:19:52 PM
I gave up trying to get the commentary am playing patience instead
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 03:19:57 PM
Webster - "10 years at the Pirelli Stadium"

Highly unlikely as 10 years ago it didn't exist.

Maybe he built it!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: blackpoolalty on December 20, 2008, 03:20:08 PM
Webster - "10 years at the Pirelli Stadium"

Highly unlikely as 10 years ago it didn't exist.

He spent 8 of them at the Farmers field across the way
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 03:21:15 PM
Blimey:

POSSESSION
  22%              78%
Altrincham Burton Albion
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: blackpoolalty on December 20, 2008, 03:22:04 PM
26 mins. Shot by Colin Little (Altrincham) it goes wide.

 :(
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:22:59 PM
Barrow 1 up

FC Vics of London still 1 up

1-0 Alty!!!!

Little
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:23:28 PM
Disallowed for offside although my source at the game says it was for a push.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: altyusa on December 20, 2008, 03:23:33 PM
Disallowed!!!  F***!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 03:27:05 PM
Disallowed!!!  F***!

Disallowed f***s!

I've had one or 2 of those!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:27:19 PM
Angus Loughran - "not sure if he's here today"

Highly unlikely!  :D
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 03:28:37 PM
Blast bashed my bad knee on the desk when i jumped up after reading we were one up.
we are upto 39 % now
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:30:28 PM
"Graham Heathcote, 30 years as a player, manager,( etc, etc.)"

This is a total myth! I really wish people would stop saying this!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:33:40 PM
1 down
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 03:35:23 PM
BLAST,BLAST,BLAST
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 03:35:58 PM
1 down

The test now is how we react! Hopefully with more caharacetr that one or 2 of our more recent matches
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:38:03 PM
Grays 1-1 AFC "We really should be beating these"
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 03:40:18 PM
Woking 1 up at Lewes
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 03:42:13 PM
right trains dealt with for now,slippers on and follow the game for a while.
Lol half time
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: altyusa on December 20, 2008, 03:43:27 PM
Up against it here now in the 2nd half.   Lets at least keep it respectable.  Lets get Elam and Johnson on and have a crack, what the hell, lets have a go!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 03:45:53 PM
agreed
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 03:50:02 PM
hows this for justice torquay 2-o histon 2nd goal came from a long throw
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:02:53 PM
Nappy changed and ready for the 2nd half.









I'll do Jennifer's nappy after full time!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 04:03:44 PM
Johnson on for Meecham
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on December 20, 2008, 04:06:36 PM
Get in there.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: altyusa on December 20, 2008, 04:06:58 PM
1-1!!!  Get in!!  Johnson!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:07:27 PM
That's character

Reckon that'll do Dale a world of good
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 04:10:12 PM
great great great come on Alty
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:11:04 PM
Grays 1-1 AFC "We really should be beating these"

2-1 to Grays now!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: altyusa on December 20, 2008, 04:16:05 PM
Bollocks! 1-2, pen to them, sounds as though we are somewhat lucky ref didn't send Coburn off...
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on December 20, 2008, 04:16:30 PM
Bollocks!

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:17:32 PM
Bollocks!

My thoughts exactly.


My thoughts were worse!

From the txt commentary & stats it looked like Alty were much better in the 2nd half
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 04:17:45 PM
Wow! I go away for 20 minutes to make some Bombay sweet potatoes and it's all been happening!

Come on you reds!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 04:18:47 PM
For me we now have nothing to lose. Get Elam on for Peyton and have a go at them!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:19:49 PM
For me we now have nothing to lose. Get Elam on for Peyton and have a go at them!

Agreed
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
JUST seen it blast it
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:22:07 PM
As things stand York overtake us on goal difference in the league
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 04:23:35 PM
Senior off, Elam on.

Why bring off a danger man like Senior? I agree with bringing Elam on but we should have gone three up front at this stage!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:25:06 PM
Senior off, Elam on.

Why bring off a danger man like Senior? I agree with bringing Elam on but we should have gone three up front at this stage!

Maybe put Peyton in centre mid to help cover the defence?
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 04:33:36 PM
Looks like Elam is getting involved quite a bit
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 04:35:52 PM
Please score Alty!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:36:40 PM
Looks like Elam is getting involved quite a bit

He prob wants to make a point to GH to get a starting place or 2 in the next few matches
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:37:37 PM
Thought this might happen:

82:15 Substitution (Altrincham) makes a substitution, with Joe O'Neill coming on for Shaun Densmore
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: altyusa on December 20, 2008, 04:38:12 PM
1-3, all over :(
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:38:51 PM
Bo%%ocks

Looks like Col was close to getting an equaliser just before that goal
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 04:39:34 PM
Oh  why is it once we go behind most times we lose can we ever come back and win a game
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on December 20, 2008, 04:39:44 PM
Pre-Xmas curtain comes down.

Roll on the panto season and hopefully six festive panto points.


Oh and wish these two would stop moaning about the floodlights.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 04:39:52 PM
"The lights are not the best"

They're brand new you prat!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 04:41:22 PM
lol i cannot hear that at least some good news then and Vics losing 2-1 now
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:42:48 PM
The result I would have liked (other than an Alty win) would have been Lewes to beat Woking - alas not to be.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 04:43:44 PM
Nothing happenning since the 3rd went in BBC has gone to sleep again
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:44:33 PM
Nothing happenning since the 3rd went in BBC has gone to sleep again

... as usual!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 04:45:47 PM
Can we please revert to the 3-4-3 formation for Boxing Day?

We actually won games when we used these tactics. It's not rocket science.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 04:46:22 PM
931 in the ground
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:47:06 PM
Full time.

Fingers crossed for good results over Xmas.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Uncle Globnasty on December 20, 2008, 04:47:26 PM
Well, happy Xmas to all and hopefully a stuffing for the Vics turkeys.

Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 20, 2008, 04:47:48 PM
thanks fro that still at 90+1 with BBC
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Dougals Dad on December 20, 2008, 04:48:58 PM
Well, happy Xmas to all and hopefully a stuffing for the Vics turkeys.



Hope Elam can get some Hot Crossed buns over for Little & Johnson!








Oh! Sorry! Wrong time of year
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 04:50:51 PM
I have just been told by a very reliable source at the game that the overall performance today was genunely encouraging.

In all fairness we've lost to a team who have won 8 on the bounce so it's not a disaster. Howevr, I stand by what I said regarding the 3-4-3 thing and we must throw the kitchen sink at the green slime over Christmas.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: fuertes on December 20, 2008, 05:59:50 PM
Just back. We did okay, referee pretty poor.

Disallowed goal I'm assuming was for a push, not that I saw it, and I didn't agree with the pen; the lad was looking for it. I thought the back line was decent, Johnson looked good when he was on, Elam was trying to exert an influence, midfield with Densmore back looked better, so all in all I'm not too down about things.

However, whilst it pains me to say it, Stu looked decidedly dodgy all afternoon. I hope it was just a bad day at the office.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on December 20, 2008, 07:29:29 PM
i have to agree with you fuertes, Stu was not the best today, very indecisive at through balls.

Otherwise we played well today and I think we were worth a point.

NC has stated there hardest game of the season!

Lets carry that performance into the next game.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: VofD on December 20, 2008, 08:50:56 PM
PEYTON and MEECHAN absolutely useless. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Lew Needham on December 20, 2008, 09:21:02 PM
How can anyone justify playing Peyton or Meechan over Elam and Johnson- its a joke.

I can't get my head round it. If we are going to play 4 4 2 then it should be Little & Johnson upfront with Elam and Senior on the wings.

People are going to say that Elam and Senior won't give us enough cover but thats rubbish as they both track back as much as Peyton & Meechan.

I just can't believe we have Lee Elam sat on the bench its crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 09:34:31 PM
My starting lineup for Boxing Day would be as follows:

Coburn

Smith
McGregor
Young

Doughty
Densmore
Danylyk
Peyton

Elam
Little
Johnson

I feel a bit harsh leaving out Senior but I think his pace would be a valuable weapon later in the game against tired defenders. O'Neill to come on for his annual goal away at Vics as well!  ;D

I think the above starting lineup would put them under lots of pressure which is the way we must approach a game like this. If you take the fact it's a derby game out of the equation just for a second it's a game against a lowly side who are very low on confidence. We must be in their faces from the very first whistle to the last!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on December 20, 2008, 11:27:03 PM
Last comment about going at them is correct.

Perhaps ralphy for Stu?

Robbie for peyton if fit.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 20, 2008, 11:50:45 PM
Last comment about going at them is correct.

Perhaps ralphy for Stu?

Robbie for peyton if fit.

I've not seen Stu play since his return from injury so you are in a better position than I to judge that.

However, I do strongly believe that we should play the above outfield players in the 3-4-3 formation that won us so many games a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: highwayman on December 21, 2008, 06:39:40 AM
Very encouraging performance by the lads with the next three games coming up, which will probably go a long way in shaping the rest of the season for the Alty.They are going to be like three cup ties! Let's hope we don't take our cup form into the games!

I thought we had strong performances from Jamie, Youngy, Macca, Shaun and Dale (when he got on)

Less impressed with Stu, Meech, Wozza.

Mistakes by the keeper are always magnified but I thought Stu's decision making (especially for the pen) and his distribution were the poorest I've seen from him. Keep him in for Vics away but...

We need big, consistent  performances from our experienced players such as Stu and Col in the next three games.

I too don't understand what is going on with Elam - he only seems to get a "cameo" role nowadays. I would definitely have him starting ahead of Meech or Wozza any day.

I would also start with Dale. All too often we are clearing from defence and the lack of height of Col and Chris doesn't give us an option. It's just coming straight back. At least with Dale he can get a decent challenge in and hold the ball up.

What's the situation with Robbie? We are deinitely missing him!

Assuming Robbie is still out for Vics away I would go 4-4-2

Coburn

Smith
McGregor
Young
Doughty

Senior
Densmore
Danylyk
Elam

Little
Johnson

Vics are now without a win in 7 - they will see Boxing Day as an opportunity to start the Great Escape (again!) - it's going to be very, very interesting!
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Nonleaguer on December 21, 2008, 09:32:37 AM
When Nigel Clough states that the match was one of the hardest his team have played this season it's testament that Alty battled well and but for a golden chance missed at 2-1 down there may have been an upset on the cards. Granted our first half performance was not the best but in the second we seized the baton and deservedly got back on terms.

Only downside is the long ball forward to probably the smallest attack force in the league. It's bread and butter to any defence when the high ball comes in with regularity. It's time the likes of Danylyk and Densmore are receiving the ball to feet and pushing on which will be far more effective than squandering needless possession time and time again. We need to have a bit more guile on our free kicks and corners as on numerous occasions their keeper plucked the ball from the air unchallenged. Let's vary it a little and deliver a ball to the penalty spot to create a bit more attack minded opportunity.

Looking forward to the Xmas fixtures and if we build on today we should soon come out of this small depression.

Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on December 21, 2008, 09:35:56 AM
9 points over the Christams and new year will be very nice and very do able
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 21, 2008, 10:18:39 AM
What's the situation with Robbie? We are deinitely missing him!

Robbie situation was explained here:   http://www.altyfans.co.uk/index.php?topic=7200.0

I would seriously doubt he'll be appearing again before mid-January at the earliest.
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: Altyant on December 21, 2008, 09:35:39 PM
How can anyone justify playing Peyton or Meechan over Elam and Johnson- its a joke.

I can't get my head round it. If we are going to play 4 4 2 then it should be Little & Johnson upfront with Elam and Senior on the wings.

People are going to say that Elam and Senior won't give us enough cover but thats rubbish as they both track back as much as Peyton & Meechan.

I just can't believe we have Lee Elam sat on the bench its crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe that Dale didnt start as he'd been ill in the week.

Thought that we were genuinely improved from the Southport game. I believe that Cols goal was disallowed for a push.

Stayed behind the goal for the secons half, I didnt think it was a penalty - Cobs went our to Webster and Webster seemed to have poked the ball towards going out of touch before going down without any contacvt from Stu. It was also very disappointing to hear Burtons Number 4 asking for Stu to be sent off.

Third goal was defo Stus fault, behind the goal you knew exactly what was coming, except Stu who never moved for it.

However I still think we will be ok. Burton have now won 8(?) in a row, they will there or there abouts at the end of season and we really gave them a good game
Title: Re: Burton Albion match thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on December 22, 2008, 12:07:55 AM
From what I have seen of Meechan to date, he has been very disappointing.

To be honest, I thought that Peyton had a nightmare yesterday and was bewildered as to how he avoided being substituted.
As always, lots of effort but his passing has really deteriorated and it just looks like he's low on confidence to me. 

Densmore and Danylyk were the pick of the Alty players for me.