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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 23, 2021, 12:01:53 PM »
Maybe I'm being naive, but it reads to me like a complaint from a disgruntled neighbour to the ground.

Sometimes people want to ignore the most obvious answer. And let's face it, the work needs doing.

I think you are being extremely naive, which is ironic given how quick you are to pick up on what you perceive as naivety in others.

Why on earth would a disgruntled neighbour complain about the state of the terracing on the Golf Rd? How would they even know about it? The statement from the board makes it perfectly clear that the complaint came from someone they hoped would have come to them first. That would hardly apply to a disgruntled neighbour.

When have I suggested naivety in others? Genuine question if you think I've been a bit unreasonable in the past, I'm always happy to hold my hand up.

For me, the statement ('wish they'd come to us first') doesn't sound like an insider with an axe to grind - it reads like someone that's turned up to a game and then complained - we all have members within our friend and family circles that are only happy when moaning.

I don't sign up to this 'inside knowledge' either - any visit from a member of the council with two funtional eyes would have identified the ground is a mess.

Re: signed off fine at the start of the season - responding to a complaint means you have to be shown to be doing something, not a routine inspection. Of course the outcome would be different.

Sorry for being the voice of reason and I'll be sad to see that it's an inside job if I am indeed wrong.

Somebody spots something wrong and notifies the council / whomever.

Council confirms safety work needs doing, thus confirming that we Alty fans were in an unacceptable level of danger.

Whomever spotted the defects and started the repair works, I thank you. You did the right thing whether we like it or not.

You’re  in danger at every possible time in your life.

At home? Gas explosion
In the car? Car accident
Walking down the road? Hit by an asteroid

If you think some wonky walls, loose concrete and non running water to the new fan zone is “totally unacceptable” I’d suggest burying your head under a rock forever

Are you a structural engineer? What experience do.you have in the field?

I am quite happy to take my own risks in my personal life. When you're talking about public safety a very different mindset is required.

As for burying my head under a rock, perhaps that's what you have been doing as clearly  the horrors of Valley Parade, Heysel and Hillsborough have passed you by. Don't come back with "it's a totally different scale', we can refer to a collapsed wall at Birmingham City leading to the death of a 15 year old. Luckily nobody was seriously hurt at Caernarfon when a wall collapsed. There will be others I can't recall right now.

Bet your fun at full-capacity football matches.

Did you write the email? Seem to be the only person happy with the disruption

I've no problem at all with full houses, being 'em on. A full house at Moss Lane is a couple of thousand isn't it? Let's get it back up to where it was.

No I did not write the email.

I am not happy that the club has had this cruddy disruption, loss of income and unexpected outgoings. Previous boards / inspections / whatever went badly wrong, I am happy that this excellent board have taken the correct steps.I

Time to look to the near future when the fixes have been done.




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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 22, 2021, 12:24:48 PM »
Maybe I'm being naive, but it reads to me like a complaint from a disgruntled neighbour to the ground.

Sometimes people want to ignore the most obvious answer. And let's face it, the work needs doing.

I think you are being extremely naive, which is ironic given how quick you are to pick up on what you perceive as naivety in others.

Why on earth would a disgruntled neighbour complain about the state of the terracing on the Golf Rd? How would they even know about it? The statement from the board makes it perfectly clear that the complaint came from someone they hoped would have come to them first. That would hardly apply to a disgruntled neighbour.

When have I suggested naivety in others? Genuine question if you think I've been a bit unreasonable in the past, I'm always happy to hold my hand up.

For me, the statement ('wish they'd come to us first') doesn't sound like an insider with an axe to grind - it reads like someone that's turned up to a game and then complained - we all have members within our friend and family circles that are only happy when moaning.

I don't sign up to this 'inside knowledge' either - any visit from a member of the council with two funtional eyes would have identified the ground is a mess.

Re: signed off fine at the start of the season - responding to a complaint means you have to be shown to be doing something, not a routine inspection. Of course the outcome would be different.

Sorry for being the voice of reason and I'll be sad to see that it's an inside job if I am indeed wrong.

Somebody spots something wrong and notifies the council / whomever.

Council confirms safety work needs doing, thus confirming that we Alty fans were in an unacceptable level of danger.

Whomever spotted the defects and started the repair works, I thank you. You did the right thing whether we like it or not.

You’re  in danger at every possible time in your life.

At home? Gas explosion
In the car? Car accident
Walking down the road? Hit by an asteroid

If you think some wonky walls, loose concrete and non running water to the new fan zone is “totally unacceptable” I’d suggest burying your head under a rock forever

Are you a structural engineer? What experience do.you have in the field?

I am quite happy to take my own risks in my personal life. When you're talking about public safety a very different mindset is required.

As for burying my head under a rock, perhaps that's what you have been doing as clearly  the horrors of Valley Parade, Heysel and Hillsborough have passed you by. Don't come back with "it's a totally different scale', we can refer to a collapsed wall at Birmingham City leading to the death of a 15 year old. Luckily nobody was seriously hurt at Caernarfon when a wall collapsed. There will be others I can't recall right now.

648
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 21, 2021, 03:47:34 PM »
Maybe I'm being naive, but it reads to me like a complaint from a disgruntled neighbour to the ground.

Sometimes people want to ignore the most obvious answer. And let's face it, the work needs doing.

I think you are being extremely naive, which is ironic given how quick you are to pick up on what you perceive as naivety in others.

Why on earth would a disgruntled neighbour complain about the state of the terracing on the Golf Rd? How would they even know about it? The statement from the board makes it perfectly clear that the complaint came from someone they hoped would have come to them first. That would hardly apply to a disgruntled neighbour.

When have I suggested naivety in others? Genuine question if you think I've been a bit unreasonable in the past, I'm always happy to hold my hand up.

For me, the statement ('wish they'd come to us first') doesn't sound like an insider with an axe to grind - it reads like someone that's turned up to a game and then complained - we all have members within our friend and family circles that are only happy when moaning.

I don't sign up to this 'inside knowledge' either - any visit from a member of the council with two funtional eyes would have identified the ground is a mess.

Re: signed off fine at the start of the season - responding to a complaint means you have to be shown to be doing something, not a routine inspection. Of course the outcome would be different.

Sorry for being the voice of reason and I'll be sad to see that it's an inside job if I am indeed wrong.

Somebody spots something wrong and notifies the council / whomever.

Council confirms safety work needs doing, thus confirming that we Alty fans were in an unacceptable level of danger.

Whomever spotted the defects and started the repair works, I thank you. You did the right thing whether we like it or not.

Sounds like what a grass would say.

You say grass I say whistle blower.

649
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 21, 2021, 03:08:31 PM »
Unacceptable level of danger my arse. Anyway being honest I don't care who it was . Things happen for a reason and I think after the intial inconvenience it will be a good thing. It may also spark much needed conversation about doing more with the ground in particular the pop side which it  would be amazing to rebuild it more into the car park if ever possible . Up the reds . Long live Bill long live parky

Bar the first six words I agree totally.

650
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 20, 2021, 07:44:53 PM »
Maybe I'm being naive, but it reads to me like a complaint from a disgruntled neighbour to the ground.

Sometimes people want to ignore the most obvious answer. And let's face it, the work needs doing.

I think you are being extremely naive, which is ironic given how quick you are to pick up on what you perceive as naivety in others.

Why on earth would a disgruntled neighbour complain about the state of the terracing on the Golf Rd? How would they even know about it? The statement from the board makes it perfectly clear that the complaint came from someone they hoped would have come to them first. That would hardly apply to a disgruntled neighbour.

When have I suggested naivety in others? Genuine question if you think I've been a bit unreasonable in the past, I'm always happy to hold my hand up.

For me, the statement ('wish they'd come to us first') doesn't sound like an insider with an axe to grind - it reads like someone that's turned up to a game and then complained - we all have members within our friend and family circles that are only happy when moaning.

I don't sign up to this 'inside knowledge' either - any visit from a member of the council with two funtional eyes would have identified the ground is a mess.

Re: signed off fine at the start of the season - responding to a complaint means you have to be shown to be doing something, not a routine inspection. Of course the outcome would be different.

Sorry for being the voice of reason and I'll be sad to see that it's an inside job if I am indeed wrong.

Somebody spots something wrong and notifies the council / whomever.

Council confirms safety work needs doing, thus confirming that we Alty fans were in an unacceptable level of danger.

Whomever spotted the defects and started the repair works, I thank you. You did the right thing whether we like it or not.


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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: PP comment.
« on: November 17, 2021, 02:11:02 PM »
Played Gateshead twice. Deserved to lose twice.

Congratulations to Gateshead.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Tonight's capacity is now 1,390...!
« on: November 16, 2021, 07:54:21 PM »
How long until the only usable parts of the ground are the Chequers end and the front of the sports hall are the only usable parts of the ground?? Its getting scandalous this. The ground was deemed safe last year for over 7000. WTF has changed? The council and whoever has made these decisions need to be held accountable here.

They absolutely do. In reality those have used the golf road have been put at unnecessary risk. Isn't this why we have stadia safety certificate inspections?

653
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Billy Sass Davies
« on: November 16, 2021, 07:51:44 PM »
That's great for him.

654
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Tonight's capacity is now 1,390...!
« on: November 16, 2021, 07:25:07 PM »
I take it the Trafford Council official who only recently set the capacity at 6,000 has been sacked for gross incompetence. No ? Well what a f**king surprise !

Somebody has dropped an absolute bollock, heads should roll. Will they?

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Gateshead Replay Match Thread
« on: November 16, 2021, 06:47:54 AM »
Potentially a pivotal day for the club.
Come on Alty.

656
Altrincham FC First Team / Re: Spare for Gateshead
« on: November 15, 2021, 09:22:58 PM »
Sold out before I knew it was all ticket. What would  we do for the potential Charlton game then? i.e. would you be able to get in without a printer or smart phone, or are real tickets a thing of the past? And why is the capacity so low? People were talking 3 or 4 thousand.

Repair works are the cause of the reduced capacity.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 15, 2021, 09:00:52 PM »
Perhaps our long-standing local MP could pull his finger out on our behalf. He’ll have noted how much our gates have increased in recent times I’m sure. Sure the Board will be pursuing all avenues of influence.

He won't give a flying fart till elections come round.

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 15, 2021, 08:33:55 PM »
Doea anyone know who's dealing with it from TBC?

These two https://youtu.be/aeARXMHW4Is

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Altrincham FC First Team / Re: ground safety work
« on: November 15, 2021, 08:01:25 PM »
I smell a rat

Those will be at Old Trafford, another ground under the auspices of Trafford Council, that has / had a hell of a rodent problem at times.

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Gateshead support will probably come that route. Any kindly Twitterist out there able to let them know?

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