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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Alty Dave on January 23, 2023, 09:38:52 AM
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Tough assignment.
Think team now starts to pick itself, unless we get some new players in up front and wide.
I'll be streaming the match as don't finish work until 6pm. safe travels to all attending.
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Yes a tough one made worse by the Mullarkey speculation.
Chesterfield 3-1 Alty (og)
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A spirited 2/3-1 defeat, although we are somewhat of a bogey team for them and we do tend to give them a good game.
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A spirited 2/3-1 defeat, although we are somewhat of a bogey team for them and we do tend to give them a good game.
Let's hope we give them a good game, both teams on a good run. hoping Ryan not playing as part of the deal, no doubt Gyasi, won't feature.
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Draw would be fantastic.
Can't honestly see us getting anything but, with the Supers, you never know.
I'm hoping for a last minute equaliser from us! 🤞
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Has anyone bought tickets yet? Finding it difficult to navigate on their site and ours takes us nowhere!
2-2 draw… Colclough equalises in the 93rd minute
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A spirited 2/3-1 defeat, although we are somewhat of a bogey team for them and we do tend to give them a good game.
Let's hope we give them a good game, both teams on a good run. hoping Ryan not playing as part of the deal, no doubt Gyasi, won't feature.
Dont think we can do that, he's no longer our player. However I imagine Gyasi won't be able to play as he is their player
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Has anyone bought tickets yet? Finding it difficult to navigate on their site and ours takes us nowhere!
2-2 draw… Colclough equalises in the 93rd minute
You need to click on home tickets and then look for block E1 which is the away section. Away tickets on their website is for their supporters to buy tickets to their away games
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Has anyone bought tickets yet? Finding it difficult to navigate on their site and ours takes us nowhere!
2-2 draw… Colclough equalises in the 93rd minute
Although I still love him, him scoring an OG in the last minute for us would be great!
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Ticket bought
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Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.
Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.
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Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.
Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.
Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.
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Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.
Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.
Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.
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Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.
Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.
Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.
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Not particularly conducive to building healthy relationships with our fellow clubs though, is it.
It's one game in the grand scheme of things.
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We'll defend like trojans, Ollie to have a stormer, CCC 1-0
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Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.
Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.
Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.
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Not particularly conducive to building healthy relationships with our fellow clubs though, is it.
It's one game in the grand scheme of things.
What the actual f**k are you on about? Building relationships with other clubs? It’s completely immaterial.
Have you noticed that Chesterfield have put a clause in so that Michael Gyasi cannot play against them tonight? Like with Stockport, that’s a one sided relationship we can do without.
Why is everyone as soft as sh*te?
Although that said, no point wasting too much time on this until we see if Colclough actually lines up against us tonight…
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Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.
Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.
Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.
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Not particularly conducive to building healthy relationships with our fellow clubs though, is it.
It's one game in the grand scheme of things.
What the actual f**k are you on about? Building relationships with other clubs? It’s completely immaterial.
Have you noticed that Chesterfield have put a clause in so that Michael Gyasi cannot play against them tonight? Like with Stockport, that’s a one sided relationship we can do without.
Why is everyone as soft as sh*te?
Although that said, no point wasting too much time on this until we see if Colclough actually lines up against us tonight…
Firstly, building relationships with clubs is exactly the reason why we have players like Chris Conn-Clarke come to us (to give just one example).
Secondly, I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept that Ryan Colclough is their player... and Michael Gyasi isn't ours. I've only ever known of a handful of occasions a loan player has played against their parent club (Lua Lua famously? Courtois against Chelsea because they didn't think about the Champions League?) - and it's usually been met with ridicule at the parent club for being so complacent.
There's only one person here spouting nonsense, and it certainly isn't me.
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would be nice to know if the possibility of Ryan NOT playing tonight was even discussed. Maybe it's something you can stipulate on loan deal but not a transfer, but as previously mentioned maybe the date of the transfer could have been arranged for tomorrow.
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would be nice to know if the possibility of Ryan NOT playing tonight was even discussed. Maybe it's something you can stipulate on loan deal but not a transfer, but as previously mentioned maybe the date of the transfer could have been arranged for tomorrow.
It can certainly be discussed, but it would be unusual. Chesterfield have paid good money to us for the privilege of being able to use him without restriction.
Fair play to the board if they've managed it - we know they do drive a hard bargain judging by other club's comments.
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Suppose we will never know the exact fee we got - clues anyone ....
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Not sure we were exactly in a position of strength in this deal. Ryan had a release clause that Chesterfield met and that was enough to secure the deal. The ball wasn't exactly in our court to start making demands.
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couldn't someone have taken the plug off the fax?
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We'll defend like trojans, Ollie to have a stormer, CCC 1-0
We let the whole squad in to the penalty area hidden inside Gyasi?
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would be nice to know if the possibility of Ryan NOT playing tonight was even discussed. Maybe it's something you can stipulate on loan deal but not a transfer, but as previously mentioned maybe the date of the transfer could have been arranged for tomorrow.
It can certainly be discussed, but it would be unusual. Chesterfield have paid good money to us for the privilege of being able to use him without restriction.
Fair play to the board if they've managed it - we know they do drive a hard bargain judging by other club's comments.
We’ll have to agree to disagree in general, many clubs stipulate that a player can’t play against them (in the short term). Whether the release clause being met, precludes us (legally or morally) pushing for that I guess is another question as Flynny adds.
But certainly we were doing Chesterfield a favour selling them Colclough as they were giving us money. I don’t consider it unreasonable that we’d have stuck to our guns that he shouldn’t play. It’ll certainly be a bitter pill to swallow should he play tonight while we have Kaja lumbering about because Gyasi is blocked from playing.
We just don’t seem to be strong in any area, either in regards to our own contracted players or the terms of deals attached to loan players. I think that is now extending beyond a mere period of transition to full time football and we need to look at the inner strength of the club and where we are at.
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Ryan’s no longer an Alty player I expect chesterfield to play him as and when they want.
Good luck to the bloke.
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Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.
Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.
Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.
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Not particularly conducive to building healthy relationships with our fellow clubs though, is it.
It's one game in the grand scheme of things.
What the actual f**k are you on about? Building relationships with other clubs? It’s completely immaterial.
Have you noticed that Chesterfield have put a clause in so that Michael Gyasi cannot play against them tonight? Like with Stockport, that’s a one sided relationship we can do without.
Why is everyone as soft as sh*te?
Although that said, no point wasting too much time on this until we see if Colclough actually lines up against us tonight…
Firstly, building relationships with clubs is exactly the reason why we have players like Chris Conn-Clarke come to us (to give just one example).
Secondly, I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept that Ryan Colclough is their player... and Michael Gyasi isn't ours. I've only ever known of a handful of occasions a loan player has played against their parent club (Lua Lua famously? Courtois against Chelsea because they didn't think about the Champions League?) - and it's usually been met with ridicule at the parent club for being so complacent.
There's only one person here spouting nonsense, and it certainly isn't me.
Some of us recall the mortifying nonsense of Alty allowing Leroy Chambers to play against us whilst he was on loan at Frickley Athletic, whereupon he duly scored two goals:
http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/fricalty.htm (http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/fricalty.htm)
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Had to be the case that Ryan's debut would be against us, didn't it.
Very much seeing this one as a 'free hit', if we can get something out of the game, that would be amazing.
Well, no it didn’t. We should’ve had the bollocks to insist that he didn’t play against us and if they didn’t agree we could have just been tardy about the admin and transferred him over on Jan 31st.
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Not particularly conducive to building healthy relationships with our fellow clubs though, is it.
It's one game in the grand scheme of things.
What the actual f**k are you on about? Building relationships with other clubs? It’s completely immaterial.
Have you noticed that Chesterfield have put a clause in so that Michael Gyasi cannot play against them tonight? Like with Stockport, that’s a one sided relationship we can do without.
Why is everyone as soft as sh*te?
Although that said, no point wasting too much time on this until we see if Colclough actually lines up against us tonight…
Firstly, building relationships with clubs is exactly the reason why we have players like Chris Conn-Clarke come to us (to give just one example).
Secondly, I'm not sure what's hard to understand about the concept that Ryan Colclough is their player... and Michael Gyasi isn't ours. I've only ever known of a handful of occasions a loan player has played against their parent club (Lua Lua famously? Courtois against Chelsea because they didn't think about the Champions League?) - and it's usually been met with ridicule at the parent club for being so complacent.
There's only one person here spouting nonsense, and it certainly isn't me.
Some of us recall the mortifying nonsense of Alty allowing Leroy Chambers to play against us whilst he was on loan at Frickley Athletic, whereupon he duly scored two goals:
http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/fricalty.htm (http://www.lusaweb.co.uk/fricalty.htm)
Attendance of 223! Dark times indeed. We'd probably take that number ourselves to Frickley these days.
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looking to see if bbc local radio in derbyshire was covering our game tonight (they aren't) and i notice that radio manchester is covering NON-LEAGUE oldham's game at york tonight. they didn't cover stockport in non-league, and they don't cover altrincham, so how come they are still covering oldham?
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I was caught out by this last year but Chesterfield, despite being in Derbyshire, are covered by BBC radio Sheffield. Our game is live on there tonight.
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Ryan’s on the bench!
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Byrne,E Jones.Marriot,Baibes,Lundstrum,Hulme,CCC,J Jones,Dinanga,Kaja,Welch-Hayes
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subs,Mullarey,Gould,Pringle,Osborne,Oyedele
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No Toby. This could be a long night
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No Toby. This could be a long night
What do we read into Toby the sub?
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I just hope to god he is not on his way out as well
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No Toby. This could be a long night
What do we read into Toby the sub?
It can't be good. He's fit and available.
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Hopefully he’s just got a bad cold or something that stops him playing full 90 and we’d like to rest him if we can.
Straw clutched!
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If he is fit he plays, or he’s off to new pastures, I reckon it’s the latter. Why would you not play him against a top team in the league
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I was caught out by this last year but Chesterfield, despite being in Derbyshire, are covered by BBC radio Sheffield. Our game is live on there tonight.
not listed on the bbc sport website for some reason.
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If he is fit he plays, or he’s off to new pastures, I reckon it’s the latter. Why would you not play him against a top team in the league
From Alty FC twitter:
"Toby Mullarkey drops to the bench for this evenings game as he nurses a slight strain"
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If he is fit he plays, or he’s off to new pastures, I reckon it’s the latter. Why would you not play him against a top team in the league
From Alty FC twitter:
"Toby Mullarkey drops to the bench for this evenings game as he nurses a slight strain"
Hmm.
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I really thought we would hold out when it got to 85 minutes.
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An amazing effort by all… J.Jones let his man go from the corner and scored! Olly made some great saves and Baines was superb. Good engine tonight in the middle and did well to show our fitness and toughness without the ball for long periods. The new right-back looks like he’s going to fit in well. Add a couple more attacking options and we will be pushing on for the playoffs!
Feels like a win… just really pleased with the all round performance!
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A battling defensive display, which largely kept them at arm's length, but you can't really argue with that outcome.
One lapse of concentration proved fatal, as James Jones lost his man at that corner.
Dinanga predictably fluffed his lines with that one glorious chance.
I'm afraid to say that a front three comprising Hulme, Dinanga and Kaja is simply National North standard.
We urgently need some new blood up front.
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James Jones has been poor again recently.
If not Toby, then hopefully Jake Cooper will be fit soon.
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Sounded like a very impressive defensive performance: we were giving away 3-4-5 goals earlier in the season.
Weak up front and Dinanga needs too many chances to score - John Helm described his as the best chance of the match.
Hulme wasted on the wing and Kaja still has to prove himself.
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Good effort lads , sounds like a real battling display . So the unbeaten run ends but rather lose to a top three side than one around our position in the table .
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Sounded like a very impressive defensive performance: we were giving away 3-4-5 goals earlier in the season.
Weak up front and Dinanga needs too many chances to score - John Helm described his as the best chance of the match.
Hulme wasted on the wing and Kaja still has to prove himself.
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Agree about the front three. Would rather see Jordon up front centre. Least said about 30 the better
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Phil on twitter “ those we’ve lost and those we are potentially losing” doesn’t sound encouraging!
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Phil on twitter “ those we’ve lost and those we are potentially losing” doesn’t sound encouraging!
No it sounds like a horror 6 weeks (aside from Jackson)
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Phil on twitter “ those we’ve lost and those we are potentially losing” doesn’t sound encouraging!
No it sounds like a horror 6 weeks (aside from Jackson)
Yes, Phil's comment very worrying. If lose CCC and Toby, that will be catastrophic
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Thought we defended really well on the whole, and mistakes like losing a man will likely happen if you have to defend for large parts of the game. Apart from the already made observations about a lack of quality in the final third, we also severely lack pace going forward without Colclough. Hopefully Gyasi can add some, but particularly in the second half there were multiple breaks where we weren't able to get up to the play. CCC looked gassed after 70 mins, and Hulme/Kaja aren't going to give you that outlet either. The back 6 were really solid tonight though, and the loanee looked alright defensively
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I thought we played really well last night & would have been full value for a hard earned point but eventually pressure told. I think once Gyasi comes in with his pace (assuming from Saturday) that’ll give us much needed extra outlet, as we just couldn’t get out for sustained periods in the second. If Chesterfield are as widely assumed the 3rd best team in the league then we’ll be absolutely fine for the remainder. The new lad on loan from Harrogate looked solid & got forward when he could too, a decent debut.
Lovely set up at Chesterfield, nice seats & great range of pies & beers on the concourse & some cracking pubs round the town too. 131 from us reasonable on a Tuesday night but when you see York took 714 to Oldham last night we really need to grow the fanbase.
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I thought we played really well last night & would have been full value for a hard earned point but eventually pressure told. I think once Gyasi comes in with his pace (assuming from Saturday) that’ll give us much needed extra outlet, as we just couldn’t get out for sustained periods in the second. If Chesterfield are as widely assumed the 3rd best team in the league then we’ll be absolutely fine for the remainder. The new lad on loan from Harrogate looked solid & got forward when he could too, a decent debut.
Lovely set up at Chesterfield, nice seats & great range of pies & beers on the concourse & some cracking pubs round the town too. 131 from us reasonable on a Tuesday night but when you see York took 714 to Oldham last night we really need to grow the fanbase.
We took 75 more last year, Oldham is a new ground for aclot of Yorj fans abd they've nit lost 3 of their front 4
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So close to a decent point, as others say overall we defended brilliantly, couple of decent saves from Ollie. Shame palmer seemed to get away from J Jones. Went in off shoulder I think, so a bummer. That said I thought the referee was poor second half. We should have had a foul against Osbourne, but gave nothing, they go other end and score...
we know our limitations in final third, but we created especially first half some good openings, shame we didn't convert one. Jordan especially seems not to want to shoot, Massive lack of confidence I fear. Not sure why we let Zak go out on loan, he might have a made a difference coming off the bench.
Hopefully Gyasi will add some quality going forward when we see him.
Shows how far we have come when we are disappointed losing to a club with a huge budget and good following.
I streamed the game, once it got up and running. would have gone if been a Saturday, but work precludes most away games. There stream not as good as ours. 131 away supporters I think under current financial hardship for most was creditable. Well done to all that went.
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Mad how good Lewis Baines has been considering he's inept and nowhere near good enough.
Almost as if players need a run of games in their natural position at 100% fitness......
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Mad how good Lewis Baines has been considering he's inept and nowhere near good enough.
Almost as if players need a run of games in their natural position at 100% fitness......
hit the nail on the head there Andrew, for me the front three are only still working toward full match fitness. but the moaning is so intense, we are punching way above our budget I believe.
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Mad how good Lewis Baines has been considering he's inept and nowhere near good enough.
Almost as if players need a run of games in their natural position at 100% fitness......
Thought Osborne had a great 25 minute cameo.
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Mad how good Lewis Baines has been considering he's inept and nowhere near good enough.
Almost as if players need a run of games in their natural position at 100% fitness......
Thought Osborne had a great 25 minute cameo.
Agreed on that