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[AltyTunnelSteward]

Cue accusations of Referee bias

Anyhow, For the first Bath goal Smithy dived in and ontacted neither ball nor player. However the 'careless nature' of the challenge (defender going to ground) made it a nailed on free kick. We then apparently switched off temporarily (I didn't see it tbh) and they scored.

Penalty was actually awarded by the Assistant on the popular side. Referee awarded foul but whether inside or outside was indicated by Assistant who had theoretically a better view. Was always gonna be a Red card once the fould had been given. Can't comment on the handball element as I was on the popular side terrace at the time. Oh and Smithy wants slaughtering for collecting a ridiculous caution by going back into the area as he did.

Our supposed penalty. There was a challenge in the area which may or may not have been a foul however the ball ran on to an Alty player with a clear shot at goal so Mr West played a decent advantage. We then missed this clear chance.

The third Bath goal. If the foul people are referring to was on the popular side touchline then Mr West was about three yards from it, much nearer than me so I can't comment on whetehr it was or not.

We need to remember that Bath have beaten some very good sides this season and also that we had sufficient fairly good chances to have won it had we taken them.

You obviously go to Moss Lane to watch and support the Referee and his two assistants and not the Robins. Everytime our fans criticise poor refereeing decisions you condone the officials decisions even when they are wrong (and they usually are). Our fans may see things with Red and White striped eyes but its strange thta at least ten of them see it differently to you at nearly every game.

Actually you're incorrect on this occasion

I go to support Alty as I have for the past 43 years....difference being I sort of understand why certain decisions go the way they do - I'll try to explain decisions that go our way too and don't leave an eye at the turnstile. Some of the comments I hear are so one eyed as to be unbelievable.
I was always brought up to be honest and I will continue to be so.
I absolutely refuse to accept that we lost today because of a Referee or his assistants - as has been said elsewhere we had sufficient chances to have won 4-3 or even 5-3 but didn't take them - is that his fault as well?

[AltyTunnelSteward]

Also, if Referees at Conference level are as bad as is suggested on here, do you not think that were I intent only on watching the officials, I'd go to a different level of football?

[Jacko]

Bored of twiss starting he's getting worse if that's possible, depressing that we have are top scorer busy defending on the left all first half what's all that about? We had the chances but they had the ref end of

[Butty]

Cue accusations of Referee bias

Anyhow, For the first Bath goal Smithy dived in and ontacted neither ball nor player. However the 'careless nature' of the challenge (defender going to ground) made it a nailed on free kick. We then apparently switched off temporarily (I didn't see it tbh) and they scored.

Penalty was actually awarded by the Assistant on the popular side. Referee awarded foul but whether inside or outside was indicated by Assistant who had theoretically a better view. Was always gonna be a Red card once the fould had been given. Can't comment on the handball element as I was on the popular side terrace at the time. Oh and Smithy wants slaughtering for collecting a ridiculous caution by going back into the area as he did.

Our supposed penalty. There was a challenge in the area which may or may not have been a foul however the ball ran on to an Alty player with a clear shot at goal so Mr West played a decent advantage. We then missed this clear chance.

The third Bath goal. If the foul people are referring to was on the popular side touchline then Mr West was about three yards from it, much nearer than me so I can't comment on whetehr it was or not.

We need to remember that Bath have beaten some very good sides this season and also that we had sufficient fairly good chances to have won it had we taken them.

in fairness to ATS, he is giving the theoretical side of incidents in an ideal world- it's just everybody, through rose tinted spectacles or otherwise, sees events differently, i.e how much contact was there for a foul, did it hit a hand or a chest, ect. The referee can only give it as he sees it

[taxi Phil]

Since the Bath player was 5 yards away when Smith went for the ball, I don't see that it can be classed as any sort of "challenge". The referee was apalling. That said, we wouldn't have won in any event since we didn't create enough clear cut opportunities. I thought the loss of Baynes was the final straw as he was having the best game I've seen from him. The only player I thought was substandard was Beesley who had one half decent shot from outside the box and contributed little else. And I was surprised when Twiss was withdrawn instead of him, since he put in a decent enough shift in my opinion.

[hsmith1]

having read the posts that were posted after the game,being an excile,i rely on JL's match reports and any match commentary that is on.The first goal the 2 commentators were in the process of saying that Their own player had dived when they scored.They used terms like going down in stages and did not think it was a free kick to Bath and the Alty player could feel hard done by.JLs post confrimed it also.The second goal from the sound of things should have been an Alty free kick as should have been the third.The commentators did say that the diffenence between the two sides was Bath was more adventurous than Alty who though they had quite a few scoring chances were very predictable.Ref decisions do effect games,though i would never say a ref is bias towards any team.

[bumble]

If their first goal hadn't happened, yes they may have scored the next attack, or we could have gone in at 0-0 at HT giving us chance to regroup and coming out 2nd looking to score first

[Toff Apple]

I thought that Bath were one of the most organised teams we have come up against for years, whilst it was close they gave us no space at all and the marking from their players was very good.  I was pleased to see us pass the ball around as an attempt to find space but without creativity up front or in midfield we couldn't break through.  Beesley was playing reasonably in midfield and i though hewson and lawton were solid.  Thats the crux of the matter we are solid and will scap to the end of the game but we will not easily break down sides as well organised as bath.  Time to move on.

[Jimmy Hill]

Cue accusations of Referee bias

Anyhow, For the first Bath goal Smithy dived in and ontacted neither ball nor player. However the 'careless nature' of the challenge (defender going to ground) made it a nailed on free kick. We then apparently switched off temporarily (I didn't see it tbh) and they scored.

Penalty was actually awarded by the Assistant on the popular side. Referee awarded foul but whether inside or outside was indicated by Assistant who had theoretically a better view. Was always gonna be a Red card once the fould had been given. Can't comment on the handball element as I was on the popular side terrace at the time. Oh and Smithy wants slaughtering for collecting a ridiculous caution by going back into the area as he did.

Our supposed penalty. There was a challenge in the area which may or may not have been a foul however the ball ran on to an Alty player with a clear shot at goal so Mr West played a decent advantage. We then missed this clear chance.

The third Bath goal. If the foul people are referring to was on the popular side touchline then Mr West was about three yards from it, much nearer than me so I can't comment on whetehr it was or not.

We need to remember that Bath have beaten some very good sides this season and also that we had sufficient fairly good chances to have won it had we taken them.

You obviously go to Moss Lane to watch and support the Referee and his two assistants and not the Robins. Everytime our fans criticise poor refereeing decisions you condone the officials decisions even when they are wrong (and they usually are). Our fans may see things with Red and White striped eyes but its strange thta at least ten of them see it differently to you at nearly every game.

Actually you're incorrect on this occasion

I go to support Alty as I have for the past 43 years....difference being I sort of understand why certain decisions go the way they do - I'll try to explain decisions that go our way too and don't leave an eye at the turnstile. Some of the comments I hear are so one eyed as to be unbelievable.
I was always brought up to be honest and I will continue to be so.
I absolutely refuse to accept that we lost today because of a Referee or his assistants - as has been said elsewhere we had sufficient chances to have won 4-3 or even 5-3 but didn't take them - is that his fault as well?

I think the problem might be that you've never (to my knowledge) made a post that said "Yep, the ref got that one wrong. Terrible decision."

Just as you are correct that it is pretty implausible that the referee is always at fault, it is equally implausible that they are never so.

[ArmchairAlty]

I thought that Bath were one of the most organised teams we have come up against for years, whilst it was close they gave us no space at all and the marking from their players was very good.  I was pleased to see us pass the ball around as an attempt to find space but without creativity up front or in midfield we couldn't break through.  Beesley was playing reasonably in midfield and i though hewson and lawton were solid.  Thats the crux of the matter we are solid and will scap to the end of the game but we will not easily break down sides as well organised as bath.  Time to move on.

Couldn't agree more with all of this.

[Altyant]

Just got back from match. Nothing went our way today, the ref gave us f..all all afternoon. clear dive when James Smith played and got the ball for the first (and their lad dived over his leg on the follow through) but we then fell asleep for their quick free kick. Second goal their player clearly handled the through ball and ref missed that but pen decision was right after that, clear pen for us when densmore foul not given and we missed two very clear chances from Carl and Reeves near the end.

TBF Bath probably played some of the neatest football seen at ML all season and defo wont go down. Luckliy, all the other results went our way so really not as bad an outcome as it could have been and Baynes only out one match and with Clee playing I think we will be better.

As it was a straight red, is not a 3 game ban, plus the Wrexham match, which he couldnt play in due to his loan agreement?

[Foz]

Just got back from match. Nothing went our way today, the ref gave us f..all all afternoon. clear dive when James Smith played and got the ball for the first (and their lad dived over his leg on the follow through) but we then fell asleep for their quick free kick. Second goal their player clearly handled the through ball and ref missed that but pen decision was right after that, clear pen for us when densmore foul not given and we missed two very clear chances from Carl and Reeves near the end.

TBF Bath probably played some of the neatest football seen at ML all season and defo wont go down. Luckliy, all the other results went our way so really not as bad an outcome as it could have been and Baynes only out one match and with Clee playing I think we will be better.

As it was a straight red, is not a 3 game ban, plus the Wrexham match, which he couldnt play in due to his loan agreement?

No, proffesional fouls are usually only a one game ban, violent conduct or dangerous play is 3 games.

[Altyant]

Ok- thanks Foz