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Title: Oldham match thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 24, 2022, 09:41:08 AM
Same starting 11 as Saturday

Believe they've sold 1700+ tickets.

Alty 2-1 Oldham

Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on October 24, 2022, 09:45:31 AM
Huge game as Oldham is improving, they will have a huge following tomorrow. Injuries are going to affect us, but my team would be.

                   Gould

Barrows Jones Cooper E Jones

            Pringle Lundstram

Hulme   Conne Clark Colclough

                  Dinanga

Sobs; Osborne, Malone, Byrne, Goodson Kaja

4 of us going to game, come on Alty
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 24, 2022, 09:53:17 AM
I'd play Goodson in place of Hulme, and Hulme instead of Dinanga.
It won't happen though.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on October 24, 2022, 10:09:45 AM
I'd play Goodson in place of Hulme, and Hulme instead of Dinanga.
It won't happen though.
This drop Dinanga rhetoric is so f**king stupid I can't even begin to understand it.

He's scored 6 in 6, and we're 7th in the form table during this time. That does not sound like the time we bring in a YTS player in to have a go at a level much higher than he is used to.

Bizarre. Right up there with getting boners over Sami doing step overs agains an NPL defender.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on October 24, 2022, 10:12:49 AM
First meeting in 100 years? and that was a friendly.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 24, 2022, 10:15:16 AM
I'd play Goodson in place of Hulme, and Hulme instead of Dinanga.
It won't happen though.
This drop Dinanga rhetoric is so f**king stupid I can't even begin to understand it.

He's scored 6 in 6, and we're 7th in the form table during this time. That does not sound like the time we bring in a YTS player in to have a go at a level much higher than he is used to.

Bizarre. Right up there with getting boners over Sami doing step overs agains an NPL defender.

I realise how many goals he has scored. My frustration is how many has he missed plus he doesn’t contribute in the general play he is lightweight and backs off when it’s a 50/50
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: jhcorbett on October 24, 2022, 10:33:27 AM
I'd play Goodson in place of Hulme, and Hulme instead of Dinanga.
It won't happen though.
This drop Dinanga rhetoric is so f**king stupid I can't even begin to understand it.

He's scored 6 in 6, and we're 7th in the form table during this time. That does not sound like the time we bring in a YTS player in to have a go at a level much higher than he is used to.

Bizarre. Right up there with getting boners over Sami doing step overs agains an NPL defender.

I realise how many goals he has scored. My frustration is how many has he missed plus he doesn’t contribute in the general play he is lightweight and backs off when it’s a 50/50


Harsh. His strength, hold up and link up work has been very good at times, one example was his superb strength and pass to set up Conn Clarke for the first goal in the home cup game vs Gateshead.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: finnquark1 on October 24, 2022, 10:49:42 AM
We are 8 points worse off in comparison to the equivalent fixtures last season after the weekend. Tomorrow is a big chance to make a bit of ground, given Oldham replaced Stockport/Grimsby in the fixture list. We'll have to have discovered some maturity in the last 48 hours from that to happen.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Seth on October 24, 2022, 11:19:31 AM
I'd keep Dinanga for now. If Goodson is the answer (which I don't think he is) bring him on later in the game. Just don't let Dinanga go anywhere near taking a pen again FFS
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 24, 2022, 11:23:56 AM
Big game this on and off the pitch & first of a run of key home games that will shape our season with four of our next five being at Moss Lane. Our strengths more at the front end of the pitch and them at the back so something has to give. Only one defeat at home this season for us though & that was Chesterfield so am hopeful we can get a narrow 2-1 win. Unlike all those deeply frustrating Stockport games we should go into this believing they are beatable at least.

I reckon the gate will be somewhere around 3100-3500 with not far off a 50/50 split on home and away. An easy do on the tram for the Latics with the change at Victoria & a new ground for them plus it’s half term for the kids. Hope they enjoy our fine town and it’s watering holes but let’s defend properly, keep focused for the full 95 minutes and take all 3 please, come on Alty.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: oneedham on October 24, 2022, 11:36:22 AM
It will be the same starting 11.

If not working or we are chasing the game, then I would like to see a front 4 of :

Kaja        CCC       Colclough
               Hulme

And Pringle into midfield.

Huge game.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: swindellsworth on October 24, 2022, 01:30:12 PM
First meeting in 100 years and that was a friendly.
  Challenge match 1967/8.  Alty 0 Oldham 1
 
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 24, 2022, 01:54:17 PM
I'd play Goodson in place of Hulme, and Hulme instead of Dinanga.
It won't happen though.
This drop Dinanga rhetoric is so f**king stupid I can't even begin to understand it.

He's scored 6 in 6, and we're 7th in the form table during this time. That does not sound like the time we bring in a YTS player in to have a go at a level much higher than he is used to.

Bizarre. Right up there with getting boners over Sami doing step overs agains an NPL defender.

I agree with Amsterdam Alty... we don't half seem to hype up unproven fringe players around this place.

Not so long ago it was Curtis Miller being suggested every week... last time I checked my notes, he was plying his trade at West Didsbury & Chorlton FC.

For what it's worth, I reckon it'll be an unchanged XI... I just hope he's prepared to freshen things up sooner, it's undoubtedly been one of Parky's achilles heels in game management - he's literally got the most perfect player - in Ben Pringle - to come on, get his foot on the ball, and calm things down.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 24, 2022, 02:50:05 PM
I'd start the same side as Saturday; but Pringle in for Osbourne.

We were like the alty of old first half.

Dinanga won the penalty with that audacious through ball.

Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Toff Apple on October 24, 2022, 04:05:36 PM
1-0 Alty Dinanga (Pen) 43'
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 24, 2022, 04:46:58 PM
First meeting in 100 years and that was a friendly.
 
Challenge match 1967/8.  Alty 0 Oldham 1
 


I've written an article about that game in January 1968, which will hopefully appear in the Robins Review for the Oldham Athletic fixture.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on October 24, 2022, 07:34:34 PM
My prediction 2-2 Dinanga/Conn-Clark. attendance 3541
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Hugh on October 24, 2022, 09:06:10 PM
1-0 Alty Dinanga (Pen) 43'

A clean sheet? Blimey, that would be a turnup, especially without Mullarkey. Still, I suppose we managed it against Aldershot (and Sandbach).

I just noticed the Dinanga penalty bit too. A very bold prediction! And I'd love it to be right...
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 24, 2022, 09:57:37 PM
1-0 Alty Dinanga (Pen) 43'

A clean sheet? Blimey, that would be a turnup, especially without Mullarkey. Still, I suppose we managed it against Aldershot (and Sandbach).

I just noticed the Dinanga penalty bit too. A very bold prediction! And I'd love it to be right...

A big whoosh is needed, unless you're double whooshing
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 25, 2022, 07:26:48 AM
2-2.

1-0 up at HT, Conn-Clarke.

1-2 down early in the second half through a quick fire double in front of the away end.

2-2 in added time, Colclough penalty.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: finnquark1 on October 25, 2022, 08:29:44 AM
2-2.

1-0 up at HT, Conn-Clarke.

1-2 down early in the second half through a quick fire double in front of the away end.

2-2 in added time, Colclough penalty.

I thought at times we were fantastic tonight... some outstanding play going forwards... unfortunately... young team... individual errors... transitioning side... Oldham are a massive club at this level
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: ianpickles on October 25, 2022, 09:43:55 AM
Come on everyone. Please let's get back to being optimistic. There is so much that is depressing our spirits in the world right now. Following football can be a smashing distraction from reality. Let's keep positive. Alty to win! Heroes all over the pitch. Bottom line, maximum effort from all involved. We know this can happen.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on October 25, 2022, 10:03:19 AM
Come on everyone. Please let's get back to being optimistic. There is so much that is depressing our spirits in the world right now. Following football can be a smashing distraction from reality. Let's keep positive. Alty to win! Heroes all over the pitch. Bottom line, maximum effort from all involved. We know this can happen.

Ian, at last some positivity, looking forward to the game tonight. COYR.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: swindellsworth on October 25, 2022, 12:36:15 PM
Come on everyone. Please let's get back to being optimistic. There is so much that is depressing our spirits in the world right now. Following football can be a smashing distraction from reality. Let's keep positive. Alty to win! Heroes all over the pitch. Bottom line, maximum effort from all involved. We know this can happen.

Ian, at last some positivity, looking forward to the game tonight. COYR.
   Yeah , well said mate , we do get ourselves on a downer and honestly it is because we care so much about OUR Alty , but your'e right i ( we ) should look at the bigger picture
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 25, 2022, 03:00:11 PM
Just bought my ticket. Number 612. I hope a few more buy before the game.

Having said that I hope there aren't any offers on tonight. I've noticed in the past when we do cheap offers during school holidays etc we get lots of casual attendees who just come along for a night out with their mates. It completely changes the atmosphere at the ground. It's like it's not a serious football game.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 25, 2022, 03:36:03 PM
Just bought my ticket. Number 612. I hope a few more buy before the game.

Having said that I hope there aren't any offers on tonight. I've noticed in the past when we do cheap offers during school holidays etc we get lots of casual attendees who just come along for a night out with their mates. It completely changes the atmosphere at the ground. It's like it's not a serious football game.

Looking at over 3200 as it stands. Another 300 or so tickets. Would be great to have 3.5k in
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on October 25, 2022, 04:04:16 PM
we might be able to get a new defender in then?
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 25, 2022, 04:15:28 PM
we might be able to get a new defender in then?

We've raised 300k and had promised support from thr board.

If we've not managed to get a CB within 6 week we mihht as well call it a day
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 25, 2022, 04:57:23 PM
we might be able to get a new defender in then?

We've raised 300k and had promised support from thr board.

If we've not managed to get a CB within 6 week we mihht as well call it a day

Not like you to overreact, HA!

That will be an interesting club statement when the club folds.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on October 25, 2022, 05:20:17 PM
we might be able to get a new defender in then?

With Toby and Baines just a few weeks away, I don’t think we need more than 4 CB? Or are you thinking of cover on the left or right sides? Save the money in that area and get another striker and CDM.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 25, 2022, 06:15:16 PM
Priority for me would be someone to put away a slightly greater proportion of chances created.


PS. I've tried to put it a slightly different way here 😉
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: hsmith1 on October 25, 2022, 07:52:14 PM
Same team as Saturday including the subs
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: swindellsworth on October 25, 2022, 10:18:05 PM
Great result , great crowd , first win ever v ex Premier League club . All good vibes , Torquay forgotten . Football - Bloody hell .
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 25, 2022, 10:20:38 PM
Lundstram - Marriott will be some midfield.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: swindellsworth on October 25, 2022, 10:29:05 PM
Great result , great crowd , first win ever v ex Premier League club . All good vibes , Torquay forgotten . Football - Bloody hell .
  Before someone comments , i know we've beaten teams who've been in the top Division before , i meant of course in a league game 😄
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: altyusa on October 25, 2022, 10:30:39 PM
Great result indeed!
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 25, 2022, 10:36:33 PM
Priority for me would be someone to put away a slightly greater proportion of chances created.


PS. I've tried to put it a slightly different way here 😉

I agree, but that's every player. If we were clinical wed be a playoff side
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 25, 2022, 10:39:58 PM
0-0 would have been a travesty tonight.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 25, 2022, 10:48:49 PM
Deserved for the second half performance. Lundstram was immense.  Best game J. Jones has played since his return. Worse game all season for Dinanga.


Great crowd.

Onwards and upwards
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 25, 2022, 11:22:03 PM
Fully deserved 3 points that. Two teams that were clearly slightly low on confidence but overall we were the better throughout & we got our reward-another absolute ripper from CCC. Oldham were every bit as poor as the league table suggested & it would have been a travesty had they stolen a point.

Delighted as well to sample the fanzone for the first time. It was nicely busy if not packed both before the game and at HT & service was decent IME in terms of the wait times. I know there were some teething problems in terms of how the beers were dispensing but for an opening night it was a good effort & sure two home Tuesdays in a row will give time to reflect & improve.

Overall a dream night for any Alty fan present, come on you Reds!
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: jhcorbett on October 25, 2022, 11:39:39 PM
Good solid performance against not a very good Oldham side.
Superb strike to win the game from CCC.
Well done all, deffo deserved the win and nice to keep a clean sheet.  8)
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 25, 2022, 11:55:57 PM
Agree about James Jones best game yet. Josh rarely has a bad game. A great result considering we virtually only had 10 men.. you know who I mean….
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: altering um on October 26, 2022, 12:04:50 AM
 Alty fans were MOTM tonight. Great atmosphere (despite their lot being understandably subdued after 20 mins). So, hats off to all the youth/ singers/ chaps in the Golf Road. The 'C'mon Alty' crescendo near the end was spine-tingling.

 Ross Barrows was also excellent.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 26, 2022, 12:08:35 AM
I would like to see Ross just push up a bit more when we are in the ascendency . He seemed to be holding back a bit in the second half but agree he did have a good performance.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: altering um on October 26, 2022, 01:06:31 AM
 After Kaja, who tends to cling to the right touchline (fair enough for a winger, but unlike any of our other forwards), came on there seemed to be confusion about roles on that side of the pitch. During a break in play Ross had the gumption to run 50 yards (and back) to clarify the arrangements with Parky.
 Ross also near enough scored a great goal until CCC (attempting to make it an even better goal) diverted it for a goal kick.
 Anyway, first name on the teamsheet (his initials).
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 26, 2022, 02:51:46 AM


In truth, a pretty nondescript game of football which was illuminated by a superb strike from Chris Conn-Clarke.

After a bit of a shaky opening 10 minutes or so, we enjoyed plenty of possession but it was all rather pedestrian and we never troubled their goalkeeper.

The second half witnessed greater urgency from Alty and I thought that we warranted our victory overall.

An impressive turnout from Oldham (there were certainly some Latics fans in the main stand, too) but they were mightily disgruntled at the final whistle (and with good reason).

I thought that their approach was all very negative. They lacked any threat down the flanks and there was a persistent absence of creativity. John Rooney contributed next to nothing.

Having said that, I was encouraged to see a much more convincing display from James Jones alongside a solid Jake Cooper. The imposing Josh Lundstram stood out once again.

As our Radio Robins/media darling Laurence Howarth sagely mentioned to me after the game, for Oldham Athletic this evening had distinct parallels with that afternoon back in August 2013 when we demolished Stockport County 3-0 at Moss Lane. The relative depths to which they have plummeted in recent times were never better illustrated than by tonight's wretched experience for their travelling supporters.

Anyhow, I look upon this result as overdue revenge on their CEO, one Darren Royle Esq., for that utterly miserable and wet afternoon in Guiseley back in 1996 when I had the misfortune to watch him lumbering down the wing with all the grace of a wounded bison whilst wearing an Alty shirt, as we crashed out of the FA Trophy.

In the words of Morrissey: "Beware, I bear more grudges than lonely high court judges."

Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: oneedham on October 26, 2022, 08:26:48 AM
Big result.
Defence looked more solid. Jones had his best game since returning.
Lundstram was outstanding and has been my MOTM for last 4 games that I have watched. Colclough worked so hard and covered so much ground.
Well done boys.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: CRT Butty on October 26, 2022, 08:27:11 AM
First half was frustrating to watch. Time and time again both teams were happy to retain possession but had no desire to move forward quickly enough. It was dull. Second half I felt both teams tried to put that right but it was us with ideas, drive and determination. Lovely goal, one of very few moments of genuine quality. Great to see the ground buzzing.

Wrexham next, got myself a ticket.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: oneedham on October 26, 2022, 08:29:23 AM
Lundstram - Marriott will be some midfield.

Can't wait. Will take Marriott a bit to get going but will make us a much better team.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Knutty robin on October 26, 2022, 08:35:02 AM
A good solid performance with a really good work rate.  I thought it was a strange decision to sub Jordan when we needed to retain possession and hold the ball up? Admittedly he may have been tiring but still the better option
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: oneedham on October 26, 2022, 08:45:37 AM
A good solid performance with a really good work rate.  I thought it was a strange decision to sub Jordan when we needed to retain possession and hold the ball up? Admittedly he may have been tiring but still the better option

Yeah, trying to refrain from being negative about Dinanga because he has improved a lot, but he has been poor in the last two games.

Think we need Jordan up top against Wrexham with Kaja out wide.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on October 26, 2022, 09:44:59 AM
0-0 would have been a travesty tonight.
Agreed. To a great extent so was 1-0! Oldham we’re flattered with a one goal defeat.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Alty Dave on October 26, 2022, 09:54:11 AM
Think we needed to be braver in the final third, however, I think the team worked really hard and learnt the lesson from Torquay game, with better closing down and clearing the ball when danger approached. Overall, we deserved the victory, and a great strike from CCC for the goal. Thought Marcus wasn't quite on it last night but had good work rate. Thought we regressed when Jordan went off, but he was tiring.

defensively much improved from Torquay.

Massive test on Saturday, but that result will give some confidence.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 26, 2022, 09:56:39 AM
We controlled the game and were well worth the win, I knew Oldham were struggling but that was worst performance I've seen from any team in the league this season. I was surprised by just how flat and uninspired they were. Really glad that more people got to see the James Jones that some of us got to see last week, he was my MOTM last night and I really hope he continues to grow in confidence, although you can't begrudge it going to Josh Lundstram who is without a doubt our first name on the team sheet.

I won't get too carried away with this but it's a big result and it was refreshing to see us look solid throughout. I was waiting for a moment of madness in those last ten minutes.

Presumably Hulme went off because a big shift will be required on Saturday with lots of chasing the ball.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 26, 2022, 10:22:40 AM
We controlled the game and were well worth the win, I knew Oldham were struggling but that was worst performance I've seen from any team in the league this season. I was surprised by just how flat and uninspired they were. Really glad that more people got to see the James Jones that some of us got to see last week, he was my MOTM last night and I really hope he continues to grow in confidence, although you can't begrudge it going to Josh Lundstram who is without a doubt our first name on the team sheet.

I won't get too carried away with this but it's a big result and it was refreshing to see us look solid throughout. I was waiting for a moment of madness in those last ten minutes.

Presumably Hulme went off because a big shift will be required on Saturday with lots of chasing the ball.

I honestly think we watch different games of football. Oldham weren't bad, just lacked any end product. It was us 5 weeks ago. They'll be fine, I think.

I thought a fresh Altrincham (having not played their 4th game in 10 days, or 3rd in 8) would have killed them off first half.

Frustrating that for 2 injury time goals (Torquay and opening day disallowed) we'd be comfortably top half.

Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 26, 2022, 11:02:05 AM
We controlled the game and were well worth the win, I knew Oldham were struggling but that was worst performance I've seen from any team in the league this season. I was surprised by just how flat and uninspired they were. Really glad that more people got to see the James Jones that some of us got to see last week, he was my MOTM last night and I really hope he continues to grow in confidence, although you can't begrudge it going to Josh Lundstram who is without a doubt our first name on the team sheet.

I won't get too carried away with this but it's a big result and it was refreshing to see us look solid throughout. I was waiting for a moment of madness in those last ten minutes.

Presumably Hulme went off because a big shift will be required on Saturday with lots of chasing the ball.

I honestly think we watch different games of football. Oldham weren't bad, just lacked any end product. It was us 5 weeks ago. They'll be fine, I think.

I thought a fresh Altrincham (having not played their 4th game in 10 days, or 3rd in 8) would have killed them off first half.

Frustrating that for 2 injury time goals (Torquay and opening day disallowed) we'd be comfortably top half.

I'm more confident in our survival than theirs. I thought they were absolutely dreadful, as did their manager, who all but said it without saying it.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Bob on October 26, 2022, 11:45:32 AM
There was probably something symbolic for a lot of Oldham fans about losing to a team (and in such a negative manner) that's only down the road, has only ever been non league and has a fraction of support and resources. The booing during the match was noticeable as was the number of fans who walked out when the goal went in. The change of ownership hasn't solved the problems and there is a real toxic mood still. Great win for Alty all the same.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: robininstockport on October 26, 2022, 12:34:29 PM
Just watched the highlights. Didnt think E. Jones was brought down in the box last but looked a foul on footage.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 26, 2022, 01:22:56 PM
I think we deserved more than one goal. Oldham played so deep the back five could practically shake hands with the crowd. The biggest beef of their fans seems to be that they are playing so defensive even against what they perceive as our leaky defence.

On a different matter the ground looked pretty full with 3500. I notice only Colchester and Barrow had fewer fans in the football league last night. It'll be a tough ask when we get there.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 26, 2022, 02:21:30 PM
There was probably something symbolic for a lot of Oldham fans about losing to a team (and in such a negative manner) that's only down the road, has only ever been non league and has a fraction of support and resources. The booing during the match was noticeable as was the number of fans who walked out when the goal went in. The change of ownership hasn't solved the problems and there is a real toxic mood still. Great win for Alty all the same.

There's a rot set into them unlike any other club in the country has probably ever experienced. They've not had a top half finish in any league since 2008/09. It wouldn't surprise me if the National League North is their eventual reset button, as per Stockport and York.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on October 26, 2022, 02:40:01 PM
I think we deserved more than one goal. Oldham played so deep the back five could practically shake hands with the crowd. The biggest beef of their fans seems to be that they are playing so defensive even against what they perceive as our leaky defence.

On a different matter the ground looked pretty full with 3500. I notice only Colchester and Barrow had fewer fans in the football league last night. It'll be a tough ask when we get there.

But in getting there, we will be promoted. Could easily shift another 500 - 1000 ST after weve won the title or gone to wembely
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Sarf London Alty on October 26, 2022, 02:54:07 PM
I think we deserved more than one goal. Oldham played so deep the back five could practically shake hands with the crowd. The biggest beef of their fans seems to be that they are playing so defensive even against what they perceive as our leaky defence.

On a different matter the ground looked pretty full with 3500. I notice only Colchester and Barrow had fewer fans in the football league last night. It'll be a tough ask when we get there.

But in getting there, we will be promoted. Could easily shift another 500 - 1000 ST after weve won the title or gone to wembely

The Oldham ends of the ground were packed but there still looked to be quite a few spare seats in the main stand & there was a fair bit of space in the corner of the GRE nearest the fan zone too. I think 5000 is roughly what the current layout could fit in it safely but if you got rid of all the scaffolding & redeveloped the Pop Side fully then it could be higher potentially.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: andrewflynn on October 26, 2022, 03:08:01 PM
I think we deserved more than one goal. Oldham played so deep the back five could practically shake hands with the crowd. The biggest beef of their fans seems to be that they are playing so defensive even against what they perceive as our leaky defence.

On a different matter the ground looked pretty full with 3500. I notice only Colchester and Barrow had fewer fans in the football league last night. It'll be a tough ask when we get there.

But in getting there, we will be promoted. Could easily shift another 500 - 1000 ST after weve won the title or gone to wembely

The Oldham ends of the ground were packed but there still looked to be quite a few spare seats in the main stand & there was a fair bit of space in the corner of the GRE nearest the fan zone too.I think 5000 is roughly what the current layout could fit in it safely but if you got rid of all the scaffolding & redeveloped the Pop Side fully then it could be higher potentially.

Absolutely. That entire side is crying out to be flattened and redeveloped to modern standards, including the space behind the stand. A full-length seated stand similar to that of Chester's Deva Stadium (inc. media gantry) seems a reasonable target in the mid-long term.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 26, 2022, 03:20:09 PM
I think we deserved more than one goal. Oldham played so deep the back five could practically shake hands with the crowd. The biggest beef of their fans seems to be that they are playing so defensive even against what they perceive as our leaky defence.

On a different matter the ground looked pretty full with 3500. I notice only Colchester and Barrow had fewer fans in the football league last night. It'll be a tough ask when we get there.

But in getting there, we will be promoted. Could easily shift another 500 - 1000 ST after weve won the title or gone to wembely

The Oldham ends of the ground were packed but there still looked to be quite a few spare seats in the main stand & there was a fair bit of space in the corner of the GRE nearest the fan zone too.I think 5000 is roughly what the current layout could fit in it safely but if you got rid of all the scaffolding & redeveloped the Pop Side fully then it could be higher potentially.

Absolutely. That entire side is crying out to be flattened and redeveloped to modern standards, including the space behind the stand. A full-length seated stand similar to that of Chester's Deva Stadium (inc. media gantry) seems a reasonable target in the mid-long term.

With an area to stand up if required, I much prefer standing to sitting
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on October 26, 2022, 03:23:03 PM


The post-match thoughts of Oldham Athletic's dejected manager:


https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2022/october/25102022-unsworth-post-altrincham-a/ (https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2022/october/25102022-unsworth-post-altrincham-a/)
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on October 26, 2022, 03:37:52 PM
A very honest  assessment by Dave Unsworth. He didn’t pull any punches and called it well. They also have a fantastic fanbase who I’m sure will still stand by them.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Bob on October 26, 2022, 04:25:04 PM
I think we deserved more than one goal. Oldham played so deep the back five could practically shake hands with the crowd. The biggest beef of their fans seems to be that they are playing so defensive even against what they perceive as our leaky defence.

On a different matter the ground looked pretty full with 3500. I notice only Colchester and Barrow had fewer fans in the football league last night. It'll be a tough ask when we get there.

But in getting there, we will be promoted. Could easily shift another 500 - 1000 ST after weve won the title or gone to wembely

The Oldham ends of the ground were packed but there still looked to be quite a few spare seats in the main stand & there was a fair bit of space in the corner of the GRE nearest the fan zone too.I think 5000 is roughly what the current layout could fit in it safely but if you got rid of all the scaffolding & redeveloped the Pop Side fully then it could be higher potentially.

Absolutely. That entire side is crying out to be flattened and redeveloped to modern standards, including the space behind the stand. A full-length seated stand similar to that of Chester's Deva Stadium (inc. media gantry) seems a reasonable target in the mid-long term.

As a guide, Accrington built a 1,200 seater stand where that little side terrace used to be about 4 years ago and that cost well over a million quid.

Expect things to cost a lot more since then but something has to happen one way or another because our own ground is not fit for purpose at this level.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 26, 2022, 04:55:22 PM
I think we deserved more than one goal. Oldham played so deep the back five could practically shake hands with the crowd. The biggest beef of their fans seems to be that they are playing so defensive even against what they perceive as our leaky defence.

On a different matter the ground looked pretty full with 3500. I notice only Colchester and Barrow had fewer fans in the football league last night. It'll be a tough ask when we get there.

But in getting there, we will be promoted. Could easily shift another 500 - 1000 ST after weve won the title or gone to wembely

The Oldham ends of the ground were packed but there still looked to be quite a few spare seats in the main stand & there was a fair bit of space in the corner of the GRE nearest the fan zone too.I think 5000 is roughly what the current layout could fit in it safely but if you got rid of all the scaffolding & redeveloped the Pop Side fully then it could be higher potentially.

Absolutely. That entire side is crying out to be flattened and redeveloped to modern standards, including the space behind the stand. A full-length seated stand similar to that of Chester's Deva Stadium (inc. media gantry) seems a reasonable target in the mid-long term.

As a guide, Accrington built a 1,200 seater stand where that little side terrace used to be about 4 years ago and that cost well over a million quid.

Expect things to cost a lot more since then but something has to happen one way or another because our own ground is not fit for purpose at this level.

Yes, that was my point. To have any chance of survival, without a benefactor we would need to be able to accommodate crowds in excess of 5000 on a regular basis. We can just about do it at the moment as evidenced last night but it doesn't look pretty. The popside is the obvious one to develop because it will have least impact on our neighbours but if we have to surrender some of it to bigger clubs and put a sterile zone in it won't be used to its full potential.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on October 26, 2022, 05:01:44 PM
I think we deserved more than one goal. Oldham played so deep the back five could practically shake hands with the crowd. The biggest beef of their fans seems to be that they are playing so defensive even against what they perceive as our leaky defence.

On a different matter the ground looked pretty full with 3500. I notice only Colchester and Barrow had fewer fans in the football league last night. It'll be a tough ask when we get there.

But in getting there, we will be promoted. Could easily shift another 500 - 1000 ST after weve won the title or gone to wembely

The Oldham ends of the ground were packed but there still looked to be quite a few spare seats in the main stand & there was a fair bit of space in the corner of the GRE nearest the fan zone too.I think 5000 is roughly what the current layout could fit in it safely but if you got rid of all the scaffolding & redeveloped the Pop Side fully then it could be higher potentially.

Absolutely. That entire side is crying out to be flattened and redeveloped to modern standards, including the space behind the stand. A full-length seated stand similar to that of Chester's Deva Stadium (inc. media gantry) seems a reasonable target in the mid-long term.

As a guide, Accrington built a 1,200 seater stand where that little side terrace used to be about 4 years ago and that cost well over a million quid.

Expect things to cost a lot more since then but something has to happen one way or another because our own ground is not fit for purpose at this level.



fc United stand where there is a mixture of seats and terracing has been mentioned before as potential for the pop side
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 26, 2022, 05:25:33 PM
This is the firm that redeveloped Salford's ground; currently building an impressive lengthways stand at South Shields:

https://www.stadiumsolutions.co.uk/news/stadium-solutions-constructing-cutting-edge-stand-at-south-shields-fc/

No idea how much something like this would cost.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on October 26, 2022, 05:28:14 PM
I've got the euromillions on if you can wait till Friday? 🙏😏
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Bob on October 26, 2022, 06:23:21 PM
This is the firm that redeveloped Salford's ground; currently building an impressive lengthways stand at South Shields:

https://www.stadiumsolutions.co.uk/news/stadium-solutions-constructing-cutting-edge-stand-at-south-shields-fc/

No idea how much something like this would cost.

Same company that did Accrington's. Up to £3m according to reports but it will have boxes, hospitality etc. It's open already.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: PaulClementsLaments on October 26, 2022, 07:31:57 PM


The post-match thoughts of Oldham Athletic's dejected manager:


https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2022/october/25102022-unsworth-post-altrincham-a/ (https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2022/october/25102022-unsworth-post-altrincham-a/)

Credit to PP - when we have a bad result/performance he has never been so dispirited and negative with his post match comments and always finds something to build on  - that ramble wouldn't motivate me in any way if I was an Oldham player.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on October 26, 2022, 07:54:38 PM


The post-match thoughts of Oldham Athletic's dejected manager:


https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2022/october/25102022-unsworth-post-altrincham-a/ (https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2022/october/25102022-unsworth-post-altrincham-a/)

Credit to PP - when we have a bad result/performance he has never been so dispirited and negative with his post match comments and always finds something to build on  - that ramble wouldn't motivate me in any way if I was an Oldham player.
Unsworth isn’t the solution because he’s part of the problem. Said the team needs replacing but it’ll take time. Not much of a rallying call.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: cheshire cat on October 26, 2022, 09:17:28 PM

Credit to PP - when we have a bad result/performance he has never been so dispirited and negative with his post match comments and always finds something to build on  - that ramble wouldn't motivate me in any way if I was an Oldham player.

I can't agree. After a defeat I find his tone of voice dispiriting. No disrespect. It must be crap being interviewed 15 minutes after losing.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on October 26, 2022, 10:47:08 PM
The Unsworth interview reminded me of Jim Harvey, or maybe John Pemberton after we beat Chesterfield.  It just felt like a manager who had joined a club who were big for the level at which they were playing, possibly expecting an easy ride, then just seemed shell-shocked, with nothing constructive to offer.

PP often - not always - finds some positives in  a defeat, but there was nothing in there.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on October 26, 2022, 11:42:12 PM
We need a stand like the danebank with a decent media gantry and facilities underneath it. It would be warmer just by virtue of not being in a wasteland next to a salt mine.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: altrincham on October 27, 2022, 08:28:50 PM
Defiantly something more like the danebank terrace with facilities under and possible cooperate boxes and press in the high center or along the top. Much rather this than a boring generic row of neat seats .
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Hugh on October 27, 2022, 09:16:29 PM


In truth, a pretty nondescript game of football which was illuminated by a superb strike from Chris Conn-Clarke.

After a bit of a shaky opening 10 minutes or so, we enjoyed plenty of possession but it was all rather pedestrian and we never troubled their goalkeeper.

The second half witnessed greater urgency from Alty and I thought that we warranted our victory overall.

An impressive turnout from Oldham (there were certainly some Latics fans in the main stand, too) but they were mightily disgruntled at the final whistle (and with good reason).

I thought that their approach was all very negative. They lacked any threat down the flanks and there was a persistent absence of creativity. John Rooney contributed next to nothing.

Having said that, I was encouraged to see a much more convincing display from James Jones alongside a solid Jake Cooper. The imposing Josh Lundstram stood out once again.

As our Radio Robins/media darling Laurence Howarth sagely mentioned to me after the game, for Oldham Athletic this evening had distinct parallels with that afternoon back in August 2013 when we demolished Stockport County 3-0 at Moss Lane. The relative depths to which they have plummeted in recent times were never better illustrated than by tonight's wretched experience for their travelling supporters.

Anyhow, I look upon this result as overdue revenge on their CEO, one Darren Royle Esq., for that utterly miserable and wet afternoon in Guiseley back in 1996 when I had the misfortune to watch him lumbering down the wing with all the grace of a wounded bison whilst wearing an Alty shirt, as we crashed out of the FA Trophy.

In the words of Morrissey: "Beware, I bear more grudges than lonely high court judges."

Do we still have ever Altrincham supporters going in the "away" end, like the Barnet match in 1991 (maybe I should try it as a stand against segregation - I loved that Bromley match last season!)?

I agree about that Stockport game. And Oldham will have to up theit game if they don't want to end up like Stockport.

Surely noe Darren Royle had some good games. Well one good game. Or one good goal. I think. How did he end up in that position at Oldham anyway?
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Hugh on October 27, 2022, 09:20:50 PM
A good solid performance with a really good work rate.  I thought it was a strange decision to sub Jordan when we needed to retain possession and hold the ball up? Admittedly he may have been tiring but still the better option

Yeah, trying to refrain from being negative about Dinanga because he has improved a lot, but he has been poor in the last two games.

Think we need Jordan up top against Wrexham with Kaja out wide.

I'm just pleased we've managed to get Jordan Marcus and Ryan all on the pitch, and with Egli fit again, let Wrexham do the worrying.

Also pleased to see us grind out a win after two long away trips. How much difference has being full-time made?
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Hugh on October 27, 2022, 10:03:11 PM
1-0 Alty Dinanga (Pen) 43'

A clean sheet? Blimey, that would be a turnup, especially without Mullarkey. Still, I suppose we managed it against Aldershot (and Sandbach).

I just noticed the Dinanga penalty bit too. A very bold prediction! And I'd love it to be right...

A big whoosh is needed, unless you're double whooshing

That takes me back! Hoagy's Cidespace-linked Conference forum, heated debates about crisp-flavoured sandwiches (among other delicacies), tongue in cheek posts commencing "off topic - Conference football", and nobody batting an eyelid - those were the days!
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Hugh on October 27, 2022, 10:05:35 PM


1-0 up at HT, Conn-Clarke.


One letter off - and Toffee Apple one comment about Dinanga off. And I should add that I am very pleased with the outcome, poor as Oldham were.

I must admit I hadn't realised that Oldham (or anyone else) had such a poor scoring record away from home!
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Hugh on October 27, 2022, 10:14:59 PM
we might be able to get a new defender in then?

We've raised 300k and had promised support from thr board.

If we've not managed to get a CB within 6 week we mihht as well call it a day

Unless we continue to march up the table with what we've got. ;)

Though admittedly it would be nice to know more about where this money has gone and the nature of the support.

P.S. you had it right at half time. Everyone get that quick-pouring pale ale can in the fan zone until things get up to speed...
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Hugh on October 27, 2022, 10:20:55 PM
we might be able to get a new defender in then?

With Toby and Baines just a few weeks away, I don’t think we need more than 4 CB? Or are you thinking of cover on the left or right sides? Save the money in that area and get another striker and CDM.

13 points in the last 6 league games (I think) and above a former PL team. No need to panic just yet. Let's remember that literally nobody was expecting us to finish top half a few weeks back and yet here we are just three points off the top half. And there's probably loads of other things that need money spending on them.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 29, 2022, 09:58:00 AM
This is the firm that redeveloped Salford's ground; currently building an impressive lengthways stand at South Shields:

https://www.stadiumsolutions.co.uk/news/stadium-solutions-constructing-cutting-edge-stand-at-south-shields-fc/

No idea how much something like this would cost.

Same company that did Accrington's. Up to £3m according to reports but it will have boxes, hospitality etc. It's open already.

You'd think that if you stripped out the internal infrastructure - or even just replace with internal toilet blocks to make use of the space underneath, with entrances from each side (Fan Zone on ours) - it could be a fraction of that cost... and you could reclaim the space where the unsightly catering / toilets are currently situated near the away turnstiles, so any redevelopment of Chequers could go all the way across, leading to increased capacity / keeping away fans on that end only.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: Bob on October 29, 2022, 11:47:17 AM
This is the firm that redeveloped Salford's ground; currently building an impressive lengthways stand at South Shields:

https://www.stadiumsolutions.co.uk/news/stadium-solutions-constructing-cutting-edge-stand-at-south-shields-fc/

No idea how much something like this would cost.

Same company that did Accrington's. Up to £3m according to reports but it will have boxes, hospitality etc. It's open already.

You'd think that if you stripped out the internal infrastructure - or even just replace with internal toilet blocks to make use of the space underneath, with entrances from each side (Fan Zone on ours) - it could be a fraction of that cost... and you could reclaim the space where the unsightly catering / toilets are currently situated near the away turnstiles, so any redevelopment of Chequers could go all the way across, leading to increased capacity / keeping away fans on that end only.

I think the issue with chequers is the sub station which apparently would cost a fortune to move.

As for the popular side, there's nothing to strip out. It's just a shallow terrace with old cladding and the lower roofs would be useless with seating underneath. The whole side needs demolishing, spectator areas brought nearer the touchline, steeper rake of seating and then more space behind for catering and hospitality.

Interestingly, South Shields didn't put a terrace in front of their stand because of the space it would take up; they probably felt the space would be better used and more lucrative by having boxes at the back.

https://twitter.com/Groundtastic/status/1554783877926981632?t=VuTBA-5UBZ6Y8OPi8Zd9aQ&s=19

Of course, our board has shown it's own vision for the ground so I'm sure something will be on the agenda.
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: altrincham on October 29, 2022, 01:21:35 PM
While we are dreaming of ground developments something like these on a smaller scale would be amazing, i think its essential we keep the standing tradition in the pop corner for our atmosphere and character /heritage of the ground.

https://www.rugbygroundguide.com/images/ulsternewstand.JPG

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRlMmECj4EtTX_li1LaWGxP2JFoeQUozvSOOHmyWyY_eysyierZ1PftEzDB6hvezf-HWWE&usqp=CAU
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: onetoothsdad on October 29, 2022, 02:38:53 PM
While we are dreaming of ground developments something like these on a smaller scale would be amazing, i think its essential we keep the standing tradition in the pop corner for our atmosphere and character /heritage of the ground.

https://www.rugbygroundguide.com/images/ulsternewstand.JPG

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRlMmECj4EtTX_li1LaWGxP2JFoeQUozvSOOHmyWyY_eysyierZ1PftEzDB6hvezf-HWWE&usqp=CAU




Very smart
Title: Re: Oldham match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on October 29, 2022, 05:29:17 PM
This is the firm that redeveloped Salford's ground; currently building an impressive lengthways stand at South Shields:

https://www.stadiumsolutions.co.uk/news/stadium-solutions-constructing-cutting-edge-stand-at-south-shields-fc/

No idea how much something like this would cost.

Same company that did Accrington's. Up to £3m according to reports but it will have boxes, hospitality etc. It's open already.

You'd think that if you stripped out the internal infrastructure - or even just replace with internal toilet blocks to make use of the space underneath, with entrances from each side (Fan Zone on ours) - it could be a fraction of that cost... and you could reclaim the space where the unsightly catering / toilets are currently situated near the away turnstiles, so any redevelopment of Chequers could go all the way across, leading to increased capacity / keeping away fans on that end only.

I think the issue with chequers is the sub station which apparently would cost a fortune to move.

As for the popular side, there's nothing to strip out. It's just a shallow terrace with old cladding and the lower roofs would be useless with seating underneath. The whole side needs demolishing, spectator areas brought nearer the touchline, steeper rake of seating and then more space behind for catering and hospitality.

Interestingly, South Shields didn't put a terrace in front of their stand because of the space it would take up; they probably felt the space would be better used and more lucrative by having boxes at the back.

https://twitter.com/Groundtastic/status/1554783877926981632?t=VuTBA-5UBZ6Y8OPi8Zd9aQ&s=19

Of course, our board has shown it's own vision for the ground so I'm sure something will be on the agenda.

Sorry yeah, I meant stripping out much of what South Shields have done - ours clearly needs bulldozing! - but perhaps that's a missed opportunity in itself, i.e. the hospitality could potentially move to that side too. And then there's the TV gantry to think about too.

Unless we buy land from the allotment, I assume we'd probably have the same space issues in terms of depth - although, from the photos I can see from South Shields, you can still fit quite a lot in at ground level along the touchline anyway.

Wasn't aware of the sub station issue, thanks - I wonder if you can build a support structure and go above it, but then I assume the issue would then become a planning one in terms of encroachment with the housing.