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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: ScoreDaws on June 12, 2011, 06:12:40 PM
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I think it's great that Southport have been reinstated into the BSP, however I am glad that it's not Atrincham.
After getting over relegation, losing Kenny and with one or two decent players departing things looked pretty bleak a few weeks ago. Fast forward to now, Lee installed as manager, some key players comitted and new promising players into the fold and new sponsors on board with BSN budget forecasts in mind. If we had finished the season 4th bottom and been given this reprieve 3 weeks ago, I might have been a little more upbeat on 'getting out of jail' again due to the time element we would have being in mid May.
The plans and foundations have been formulated in the last 3 weeks for Alty to do well in the BSN and not the BSP, and go back up into the top flight of non-league the right way. I would rather visit Moss lane this season seeing the team win more games and build upon what could be a great season for Altrincham FC, rather than go to Moss Lane hoping for a point.
Am I just being realistic or just crazy? ???
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Nuts
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Totally agree.
There is always the niggle that other teams have signed and players they could never afford and thus finished above us.
However I want us to be remembered for being a team that had (and will have again I hope) a great cup pedigree and a rich history. Not a team that kept getting saved.
We need a rebuilding job...and the bit that has done so far has got me looking forward to a season more that I have for a long time.
Yeah we're not going to Luton anymore, or having 500 away fans at Moss Lane but there is a chance to see a winning side and winning makes people happy.
As I have said before one of the highlights for me was the young lads coming through last year to be hardcore fans. It will make there lives easier to get mates coming down if we dont lose more than we win.
The amount of 17-19 year olds at the Eastbourne game was class.
Relegation is sh*t but there is a lot to be positive about.
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Agreed all round, time for a change.
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just typical of Alty fans to start saying we didn't want to stay up anyway etc zzzzzzz we should want the club to play in the highest league possible even if it means fighting for relegation every season,
anyway were down so u can all start mirroring Gh with his we don't belong here' talk that was frowned open
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It is for the long term good of the team to rebuild in conf north. We should hopefully be challenging in the upper reaches of the league next season and the prospect of maybe challenging for promotion under the guidance of an exciting young manager has got a lot of our fans impatient for the games to start. How many of us felt like that on April 30th?
It's a new chapter in the club's history, you've got to take a step back before you can move forwards again sometimes and this is one of those times.
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just typical of Alty fans to start saying we didn't want to stay up anyway etc zzzzzzz we should want the club to play in the highest league possible even if it means fighting for relegation every season,
anyway were down so u can all start mirroring Gh with his we don't belong here' talk that was frowned open
We got relegated Jacko..keep the GH thing going though. Its not tedious at all.....zzzzz
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just typical of Alty fans to start saying we didn't want to stay up anyway etc zzzzzzz we should want the club to play in the highest league possible even if it means fighting for relegation every season,
anyway were down so u can all start mirroring Gh with his we don't belong here' talk that was frowned open
you've missed the point. It's more about dusting ourselves down, and getting on with it. I want us to play in BSP and I'm sure most Alty fans want the same. Last season saw a lot of sell by dates reached at this club and we could have approached this summer on a real downer. Instead we've got a fresh new face as manager who has an excellent record at this level. We have two new sponsors on the shirts (no small feat in this climate). We have a board who are prudent financially and aware of what will be missing income wise. We have managed to keep a lot of the better players and offload some dross. In other words we are being positive and looking forward and I feel more encouraged about our long term future now than I did a year ago when we'd just finished midtable.
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Were down that's it look forward,Just don't try and tell me its better to play in a lower league because its complete deluded bollox
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Were down that's it look forward,Just don't try and tell me its better to play in a lower league because its complete deluded bollox
There are advantages to the fact we're playing in a lower league, it's an irrefutable fact. What we want and what's best for us are not necessarily the same thing.
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To be honest, I'm not buying all this 'Lee is building a team for the BSN, not the BSP' talk- he will be assembling the best team he can with the budget he has. The chances are, he won't shelve the whole team this time next year so it'll be the same players wearing red and white in the BSP as the BSN
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Gutted and would take a BSP place any day, all this lets build stuff, who knows how long it will be before we return, love the Gola, GMVC, BSP etc its where we belong, Droylsden on a tuesday night :-\
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Lee's first statement as manager of this great club of ours was that he wanted to build a team "that would go up, and stay up."
The confidence of winning promotion cannot be underestimated in its effect on the successful squad. Bring on the new season !
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By the way, is the manager on his Hollys for a week or a fortnight? Looking forward to more developments on the squad.
Despite the relegation, as others have said on here, I'm really looking forward to a season where we win more than we lose for the first time in a long time!
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Think the issue has got clouded a little.
I want to play at the highest level possible. I want to play in the Blue Square Premier.
However we went down because we didnt get enough points to stay up. I don't want us to be "given another go"...a fourth time would just be odd.
I think the manager is away for 2 weeks but has indicated that business could still be done and is constantly in touch with Neil Tolson.
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I'm sick to death of the ex-league tossers, like the grounds and the crowds have replaced our annual FA Cup buzz.
However we have been relegated, end of.
Hopefully by the time we get back then more of them will have gone to the wall and the planet non-league might be a little more like it used to be.
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Think the issue has got clouded a little.
I want to play at the highest level possible. I want to play in the Blue Square Premier.
However we went down because we didnt get enough points to stay up. I don't want us to be "given another go"...a fourth time would just be odd.
Spot on. We are where we are because we deserve to be there - now let's get on with it.
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We ended up relegated because we weren't fkn good enough to stay... Lets look fwd with optimism to the season ahead in the BSN.
Im sure our time will come again. Roll on the new season
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Jacko has a point, he is just too much of a troll to make it correctly. I'm also inclined to say that the boy just likes to be outspoken. He's no John Lydon tho!
Sinnott could do his re-building job in the prem after us having been saved. We might attract better players. We might have more budget, we wouldn't have to play at as many sh*tholes, we would get better press coverage and we might keep some floating fans we would otherwise lose. Most of all we might stay up comfortably having had a decent season.
I'm playing devils advocate, because I would have preferred being saved. I'm not saying the above would have happened just that I would have welcomed the chance.
Roll on BSN, we can do it!
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to be honest,i'm still sick at the thought we have been relegated,but having said that i'm not to fussed where we play,at least we still have a club.if someone else does get kicked out of bsp and we get reinstated i will be happy,but if not then i least bsn will give us some breathing space.As a club we should be aiming for the highest possible league .
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Jacko has a point, he is just too much of a troll to make it correctly. I'm also inclined to say that the boy just likes to be outspoken. He's no John Lydon tho!
Sinnott could do his re-building job in the prem after us having been saved. We might attract better players. We might have more budget, we wouldn't have to play at as many sh*tholes, we would get better press coverage and we might keep some floating fans we would otherwise lose. Most of all we might stay up comfortably having had a decent season.
I'm playing devils advocate, because I would have preferred being saved. I'm not saying the above would have happened just that I would have welcomed the chance.
Roll on BSN, we can do it!
im not a troll and im certainly not outspoken! anyone who's met me would know that, its a forum and whatever way it comes accross i try to get my point in there instead of worrying about what half the bi-polar cods on here think basically.
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Jacko has a point, he is just too much of a troll to make it correctly. I'm also inclined to say that the boy just likes to be outspoken. He's no John Lydon tho!
Sinnott could do his re-building job in the prem after us having been saved. We might attract better players. We might have more budget, we wouldn't have to play at as many sh*tholes, we would get better press coverage and we might keep some floating fans we would otherwise lose. Most of all we might stay up comfortably having had a decent season.
I'm playing devils advocate, because I would have preferred being saved. I'm not saying the above would have happened just that I would have welcomed the chance.
Roll on BSN, we can do it!
im not a troll and im certainly not outspoken! anyone who's met me would know that, its a forum and whatever way it comes accross i try to get my point in there instead of worrying about what half the bi-polar cods on here think basically.
Have you noticed that most of your posts end with a swipe at anyone who doesn't agree with you? Its quite a habit.
Why not just post what you think instead of telling everyone else they have mental health issues or are talking "deluded bollox".
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Getting back to the Blue Square Premier with a winning mentality having achieved promotion appeals to me an awful lot more than being reprieved and getting thrown in at the deep end... again.
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Jacko has a point, he is just too much of a troll to make it correctly. I'm also inclined to say that the boy just likes to be outspoken. He's no John Lydon tho!
Sinnott could do his re-building job in the prem after us having been saved. We might attract better players. We might have more budget, we wouldn't have to play at as many sh*tholes, we would get better press coverage and we might keep some floating fans we would otherwise lose. Most of all we might stay up comfortably having had a decent season.
I'm playing devils advocate, because I would have preferred being saved. I'm not saying the above would have happened just that I would have welcomed the chance.
Roll on BSN, we can do it!
im not a troll and im certainly not outspoken! anyone who's met me would know that, its a forum and whatever way it comes accross i try to get my point in there instead of worrying about what half the bi-polar cods on here think basically.
Have you noticed that most of your posts end with a swipe at anyone who doesn't agree with you? Its quite a habit.
Why not just post what you think instead of telling everyone else they have mental health issues or are talking "deluded bollox".
hold on ecky look at the very top of this post, the banter started there against me, and to me its not a swipe it is just banter as we dont know oneanother personaly, u cant really insult a person properly u dont know can u??
come on ecky let the game flow ;D
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Getting back to the Blue Square Premier with a winning mentality having achieved promotion appeals to me an awful lot more than being reprieved and getting thrown in at the deep end... again.
ok but please dont tell me you wouldnt of celebrated if we were in southports position becuase you would have
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Getting back to the Blue Square Premier with a winning mentality having achieved promotion appeals to me an awful lot more than being reprieved and getting thrown in at the deep end... again.
ok but please dont tell me you wouldnt of celebrated if we were in southports position becuase you would have
I wouldn't have celebrated and thats a fact. We need to rebuild the team and it will be a fkn damm site easier rebuilding it in the BSN than having the likes of fkn Luton, Wrexham and the other decent teams in the BSP stuffing 5 past us.
You never know this time in 12 months we may well be back in the BSP on Merit rather than through off the field activities
This isnt deluded bollocks,, Just fkn reality. We were relegated for one reason only,,, we werent fkn good enough FACT
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Getting back to the Blue Square Premier with a winning mentality having achieved promotion appeals to me an awful lot more than being reprieved and getting thrown in at the deep end... again.
ok but please dont tell me you wouldnt of celebrated if we were in southports position becuase you would have
I wouldn't have celebrated and thats a fact. We need to rebuild the team and it will be a fkn damm site easier rebuilding it in the BSN than having the likes of fkn Luton, Wrexham and the other decent teams in the BSP stuffing 5 past us.
You never know this time in 12 months we may well be back in the BSP on Merit rather than through off the field activities
This isnt deluded bollocks,, Just fkn reality. We were relegated for one reason only,,, we werent fkn good enough FACT
we all know we werent good enough becuase our squad wasnt strong enough but for the clubs sake we needed the money the bsp offers so we even have the chance of signing players like youngy senior etc, anyway its gone were down but please dont try and tell me its a good thing becuase it isnt and never will be!!!
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Getting back to the Blue Square Premier with a winning mentality having achieved promotion appeals to me an awful lot more than being reprieved and getting thrown in at the deep end... again.
ok but please dont tell me you wouldnt of celebrated if we were in southports position becuase you would have
I wouldn't have celebrated and thats a fact. We need to rebuild the team and it will be a fkn damm site easier rebuilding it in the BSN than having the likes of fkn Luton, Wrexham and the other decent teams in the BSP stuffing 5 past us.
You never know this time in 12 months we may well be back in the BSP on Merit rather than through off the field activities
This isnt deluded bollocks,, Just fkn reality. We were relegated for one reason only,,, we werent fkn good enough FACT
we all know we werent good enough becuase our squad wasnt strong enough but for the clubs sake we needed the money the bsp offers so we even have the chance of signing players like youngy senior etc, anyway its gone were down but please dont try and tell me its a good thing becuase it isnt and never will be!!!
Jacko.. Of course it isnt a good thing financially but if you look at it long term then it may well be a fkn good thing that we didnt stay up.. I for one will be glad we arent looking for scraps and hoping we nick a point here and there whilst watching the clubs around us and hoping they slip up too... I want to go to Moss Lane with some fkn optimism for a change and a smile on my face, Its a long old drive home to Shrewsbury after a game spending half the time thinking about who we need to beat to stay out of the sh*t or wonder where the next points are going to come from.. There are times in life when you have to take a step back in order to take steps forward again. Being relegated has now forced Alty to take that step back and I am feeling confident that we will be able to move forward with a more solid base thus the next time we step up into the BSP we will be more competitive and not just making up the numbers...
I dont expect you to agree with all I have said here as I think you only believe what you want to believe rather than looking at the bigger picture but one thing is undeniable Alty were relegated for no other reason than they were not good enough, I hated it when we lost to Eastbourne as much as the next fan but having took that step back myself I believe board and the new manager will have the wherewithall to turn the team around.
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we got relagated, the league doesnt lie, we were 3rd worst team in the league....lets rebuild and come back stronger and better
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realistic
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For this comong season, I am actually happy for once being a big fish in a small pond. Then with luck we can revert to being a small fish jumping higher than it should,...when we win the BSP ;D,.... am I that deluded? err yes!
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For this comong season, I am actually happy for once being a big fish in a small pond. Then with luck we can revert to being a small fish jumping higher than it should,...when we win the BSP ;D,.... am I that deluded? err yes!
In the BSP we thrived off outperforming the big time charlies who thought they were too big for that league. I don't see how we are a big fish in a small pond.
With current state of BSP I think we will be at our natural level or thereabouts. Granted we should be challenging too so you could say that lower end of BSP lies in our natural zone.
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For this comong season, I am actually happy for once being a big fish in a small pond. Then with luck we can revert to being a small fish jumping higher than it should,...when we win the BSP ;D,.... am I that deluded? err yes!
In the BSP we thrived off outperforming the big time charlies who thought they were too big for that league. I don't see how we are a big fish in a small pond.
With current state of BSP I think we will be at our natural level or thereabouts. Granted we should be challenging too so you could say that lower end of BSP lies in our natural zone.
You may be right, that our natural level is bottom half of the BSP, but I'm puzzled why you dont see how we will be a big fish THIS season in a smaller pond (BSN). We should be in the top 3 in terms of support/ground etc in the BSN. And like Ray has said, it will be a nice change supporting a club in the top half of the table,.....assuming of course it happens! If it doesnt,....I can see some major disappointed fans on here :o
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I'd certainly be disappointed if we didn't make the top half - but I can live with missing out on promotion PROVIDED that we finish the season stronger than we start it, and have a realistic chance of taking a stronq squad back to BSP football no later than 2012/13. I'll be 65 early in that season (God willing !) and I'd like to think there's a few more "hurrahs" to come for me yet !