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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: markecky on September 23, 2011, 03:20:01 PM
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THis may have slipped through in the middle of the news section last night (I missed it first time) but its worth noting.
Hoping it won't start a huge "its still too dear" debate as we all know admission is expensive but its a decent gesture I think.
FA CUP PRICES
Admission prices for Altrincham v Witton Albion in the FA Cup on 1 October will be reduced from the normal BSB North admission charges. Prices will be £12 for adults in all parts of the ground, £8 applies for concessionaries, £5 for 12-16 year-olds and £2 for under-12s.
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THis may have slipped through in the middle of the news section last night (I missed it first time) but its worth noting.
Hoping it won't start a huge "its still too dear" debate as we all know admission is expensive but its a decent gesture I think.
FA CUP PRICES
Admission prices for Altrincham v Witton Albion in the FA Cup on 1 October will be reduced from the normal BSB North admission charges. Prices will be £12 for adults in all parts of the ground, £8 applies for concessionaries, £5 for 12-16 year-olds and £2 for under-12s.
Still far to dear i am going to climb over ;)
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Stand on the phonebox outside the ground
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A pound is better than nothing however I will be sneaking under the turnstiles
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it's too dear for me so I'm going to hire a helicopter and get one of the ex-SAS to parachute me in.
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I'm going to hide in the stand after the game tomorrow and wait there all week.
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i am going to hide behind the stoppers at the snack bar
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it's too dear for me so I'm going to hire a helicopter and get one of the ex-SAS to parachute me in.
Parachuting from a helicopter?..sounds a bit iffy to me ;)
better to borrow Kenny's bus pass!
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I am bringing a ladder and putting up against the roof of the popular stand, climbing on to the roof and then watching from a high.
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What a bunch of amateurs!
Everyone knows its climbing to the top of the transmitter tower!
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You could always buy a flat overlooking the pitch in the development behind the Carole Nash Family Terrace end and rent it out on matchdays for corporate hospitality
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I'm going to hide in the stand after the game tomorrow and wait there all week.
I think this is my favourite so far :)
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If you nip into the car park behind the popular side, there's a hole in the corrugated iron big enough to see most of the game (unless some fat sod like me stands in the way).
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anyone interested in tunneling in?
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U could always write to the FA and watch it on TV
http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/FACompetitions/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/2011/fatv-match-choice-fa-cup
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You could always buy a flat overlooking the pitch in the development behind the Carole Nash Family Terrace end and rent it out on matchdays for corporate hospitality
And as we all know, that will be waaaay cheaper than £12.... ;)
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Just as a point of comparison...
Manchester City charged;
£15 for a Champions League fixture against Napoli.
£10 for a Carling Cup game against Birmingham.
I don't see how reducing the entrance by a pound for a game against Witton Albion will attract any new fans to Moss Lane. You might as well just keep tickets at £13.
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Just as a point of comparison...
Manchester City charged;
£15 for a Champions League fixture against Napoli.
£10 for a Carling Cup game against Birmingham.
I don't see how reducing the entrance by a pound for a game against Witton Albion will attract any new fans to Moss Lane. You might as well just keep tickets at £13.
Unlike City, Alty havent got a rich Arab to finance such reductions, admittedly it is a great gesture by the big clubs to lower prices but I wouldn't think it would make much financial sense for Alty to reduce there entrance fee for cup games pro rata
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Just as a point of comparison...
Manchester City charged;
£15 for a Champions League fixture against Napoli.
£10 for a Carling Cup game against Birmingham.
I don't see how reducing the entrance by a pound for a game against Witton Albion will attract any new fans to Moss Lane. You might as well just keep tickets at £13.
The tickets I saw for the Napoli game were £25 but its a ridiculous comparison anyway, it's an oil fuelled sky subsided club against one that gets no funding at all.
It's ike the old "its only 4p to watch Blackburn Rovers" argument.
Give us £40 million a year from Sky or whatever it is and people can probably come in for free.
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Some people have said they can't afford to go every home game now, and they have full time jobs,
This is where there is a problem when non league football is expensive
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How's it a ridiculous comparison!?
2 football clubs in relatively close proximity, both looking to attract a more casual fanbase, both with matches which (may) struggle to attract fans.
The arabs are subsidising the team, but not ticket prices. They've not offset ticket prices against Sky income either; tickets have gone up in the years since Sky invented the game.
They're clearly looking at offers to get people through the turnstiles and picking which matches may need some promoting; there's no value in empty seats.
City have done a lot of work on their marketing (not just on the brand either - on both Acquisition and retention strategies) and have brought in some great people to look at segmentation, pricing, offers etc.
A lot of people are being priced away from top level football, but we don't offer a value for money alternative to capitalise on the situation.
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How's it a ridiculous comparison!?
2 football clubs in relatively close proximity, both looking to attract a more casual fanbase, both with matches which (may) struggle to attract fans.
The arabs are subsidising the team, but not ticket prices. They've not offset ticket prices against Sky income either; tickets have gone up in the years since Sky invented the game.
They're clearly looking at offers to get people through the turnstiles and picking which matches may need some promoting; there's no value in empty seats.
City have done a lot of work on their marketing (not just on the brand either - on both Acquisition and retention strategies) and have brought in some great people to look at segmentation, pricing, offers etc.
A lot of people are being priced away from top level football, but we don't offer a value for money alternative to capitalise on the situation.
Because if we start charging a fiver, crowds may go up to 1,200-1,500 but we'll have far less money and won't ever have a chance of establishing ourselves in the Conference.
The answer to the problems lie in wage caps and a more equal distribution of funds throughout the game. At the moment, the board are doing what they can.
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The FA impose a minimum admission fee for cup games. Beyond that, it's down to the competing clubs to agree the admission charge as they each take a share of the gate money. Perhaps we wanted to reduce it to £6.71 but Witton wouldn't let us....who knows.
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How's it a ridiculous comparison!?
2 football clubs in relatively close proximity, both looking to attract a more casual fanbase, both with matches which (may) struggle to attract fans.
The arabs are subsidising the team, but not ticket prices. They've not offset ticket prices against Sky income either; tickets have gone up in the years since Sky invented the game.
They're clearly looking at offers to get people through the turnstiles and picking which matches may need some promoting; there's no value in empty seats.
City have done a lot of work on their marketing (not just on the brand either - on both Acquisition and retention strategies) and have brought in some great people to look at segmentation, pricing, offers etc.
A lot of people are being priced away from top level football, but we don't offer a value for money alternative to capitalise on the situation.
So comparing the first champions league game in a teams history to a 2nd qualifying round FA cup tie is not a ridiculous comparison?
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Not really sure why the club has bothered.
eiether way, the attendance will be 783 - by which reckoning the club has just lost £783
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So comparing the first champions league game in a teams history to a 2nd qualifying round FA cup tie is not a ridiculous comparison?
I didn't just mention the CL game, also the Carling cup.
My point is more that if Manchester (bloody) City are having to put in competititive offers for matches (and one of which looked a juicy one) then a £1 reduction on a ticket to watch Witton (bloody) Albion is really neither here nor there. It doesn't seem like much of an incentive to tempt people down (unless they're just doing it as a bit of a bonus for the regulars; if that's the case fair play).
However, I think it's a good marketing opportunity missed.
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So comparing the first champions league game in a teams history to a 2nd qualifying round FA cup tie is not a ridiculous comparison?
I didn't just mention the CL game, also the Carling cup.
My point is more that if Manchester (bloody) City are having to put in competititive offers for matches (and one of which looked a juicy one) then a £1 reduction on a ticket to watch Witton (bloody) Albion is really neither here nor there. It doesn't seem like much of an incentive to tempt people down (unless they're just doing it as a bit of a bonus for the regulars; if that's the case fair play).
However, I think it's a good marketing opportunity missed.
Getting us on the telly via the FA website would have been better.
Sadly, their email form wasn't working >:(
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Don't forget Witton get a share of the gate, so we'll be well down on income anyway compared to a league game without cutting prices.
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So let's just say for a minute that we DIDN'T reduce the prices
Cue anguished postings about how ridiculous it is that we're charging full price for a game against Witton Albion...I mean....Witton Albion
Also the whingeing comments from away fans (and we have had them in abundance already this season at League Fixtures) suggesting that we're too big for our boots, living in the past etc.
Everyone has to pay at FA Competition matches and hence some folk refuse to attend FA Cup, Trophy or CSC games. I know things are tight financially so, although I don't quite get that I will go with it as everyone is entitled to decide what to do with their own money.
Now I'm not saying that the price reduction is going to result in a 6000 crowd but if it brings even one more person through the gate who may buy a pie, a programme and/or a pint then that will be additional income will it not? You never know they, like many of us could become hooked and attend a few more games
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It's a worthwhile gesture, possibly aimed more at Witton fans used to paying £7 or £8 to get into games maybe.
As said elsewhere, there may be minimum prices and as the away team (and the FA) get a cut of the gate they might not be too happy if we made it £3 all in of which Witton get a quid, but at least there were a 1000 there.
Dammed if you do and dammed if you don't on this one. I think the fact City are reducing prices to £25 says more about the ridiculous cost or normal prices to be fair.
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what ticks me off is that IF (big IF) we got to later rounds and got a 'BIG' team how many would then go, but wouldnt go to the likes of this game because it's (not my words) 'only Witton'
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what ticks me off is that IF (big IF) we got to later rounds and got a 'BIG' team how many would then go, but wouldnt go to the likes of this game because it's (not my words) 'only Witton'
I completely understand, R1978, but you've got to be bigger than that.
Whatever the reason, the more different people try the Robins the better - that's where a proportion of the support may come from in the future.
I popped down to watch the game against Scarborough in the FA Cup in November 1965 and I'm still here nearly 47 years later!
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I do find it a little bit embarrasing when we charge £13 for adults to get in when some clubs in our league only charge £9. In an ideal world it all Blue Square North would have the same admission prices for similar facilities
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what ticks me off is that IF (big IF) we got to later rounds and got a 'BIG' team how many would then go, but wouldnt go to the likes of this game because it's (not my words) 'only Witton'
You could say that about any non league club in the country. The big motivation for a good cup run is money and publicity, if we get extra one off fans so be it. Better than none at all
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I do find it a little bit embarrasing when we charge £13 for adults to get in when some clubs in our league only charge £9. In an ideal world it all Blue Square North would have the same admission prices for similar facilities
To be fair, when you enter Moss Lane you help pay for things like proper stewarding, segregation, ballboys, you know the things that actual proper football clubs have. In places like Hyde and Harrogate these are alien concepts. Maintaining our standards can neccesarily cost a bit more.
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what ticks me off is that IF (big IF) we got to later rounds and got a 'BIG' team how many would then go, but wouldnt go to the likes of this game because it's (not my words) 'only Witton'
You could say that about any non league club in the country. The big motivation for a good cup run is money and publicity, if we get extra one off fans so be it. Better than none at all
Im not wishing it doesnt happen - of course I want a big cup game with a packed out ML. It is true its the way Non league football is - alot of the time were not noticed unless there is a specific reason like a big profile game. As for the prices as already has been said I think our standards are so that its still good value at the prices we charge and other BSN have lower standards
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Four, actually!
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I do find it a little bit embarrasing when we charge £13 for adults to get in when some clubs in our league only charge £9. In an ideal world it all Blue Square North would have the same admission prices for similar facilities
To be fair, when you enter Moss Lane you help pay for things like proper stewarding, segregation, ballboys, you know the things that actual proper football clubs have. In places like Hyde and Harrogate these are alien concepts. Maintaining our standards can neccesarily cost a bit more.
The Alty Stewards don't get paid for Alty games, they volunteer their services to help the club.
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It's such a relief this didn't turn into the usual long threaded argument about the cost of watching alty with ridiculous comparisons with premiership clubs, champions league matches and park teams charging slightly less for the same league.
I want to know where northern monkey got his marketing degree from....
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Sorry, I didn't realise I needed to justify opinion with details of relevant qualifications.
I apologise; I assumed this was an open forum. I clearly didn't realise I needed to double check my opinions didn't clash with those of others before posting. My error.
I think pricing is spot on.