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Title: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 06, 2023, 09:43:51 AM
Suspect we will go to a back 3/5

                                    Ross

Banks. Jones. Baines.  Roscoe.  Jones

      Amalozur     Marriott.   Osbourne. Crankshaw

                                     Linney


Barnet 2-1 Alty (Banks)

Good luck to all who travel
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 06, 2023, 10:11:46 AM
Suspect we will go to a back 3/5

                                    Ross

Banks. Jones. Baines.  Roscoe.  Jones

                     Marriott.   Osbourne.

    Amalozur.   Con-Clarke.    Crankshaw

                           Linney


Barnet 2-1 Alty (Banks)

Good luck to all who travel

Should have a good chance with that line up (especially if the ref doesn't spot that we're starting with 12 men!) 😉
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 06, 2023, 12:13:19 PM
Fair point.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 06, 2023, 12:15:33 PM
Re-thought it
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 06, 2023, 12:18:15 PM
                         Ross

Banks     Baines   Roscoe   Jones
         
                Marriott   Osborne

Crankshaw     CCC     Amaluzor

                       Linney
 ( concerned he might be out for a while )

Subs : Kossy, Angus, Donowa, J Jones & Joey Jones
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 06, 2023, 12:28:05 PM
I think that's the sort of team I'd be going for. They'll come out and attack us so that would be a good counter attacking side.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 06, 2023, 12:28:49 PM
                         Ross

Banks     Baines   Roscoe   Jones
         
                Marriott   Osborne

Crankshaw     CCC     Amaluzor

                       Linney
 ( concerned he might be out for a while )

Subs : Kossy, Angus, Donowa, J Jones & Joey Jones

Rubbish with 3/5 at the back. Play to our strengths and don't overthink the tactics.
We create enough chances, just need to be clinical.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 06, 2023, 02:48:08 PM
 Barnet 2 - 2 Alty     

54 away fans

                           Ross

Banks.     Cooper.       Baines.       Jones E

              Marriott.          Osborne

 Crankshaw.         CCC.     Amaluzor.

                          Linney.


Bench
J Jones (Capt)
Kossy
Angus
Roscoe
J Jones
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 06, 2023, 04:01:53 PM
Barnet 2 - 2 Alty     

54 away fans

                           Ross

Banks.     Cooper.       Baines.       Jones E

              Marriott.          Osborne

 Crankshaw.         CCC.     Amaluzor.

                          Linney.


Bench
J Jones (Capt)
Kossy
Angus
Roscoe
J Jones

I think National League is a step too high for Cooper.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 07, 2023, 12:43:31 PM
                         Ross

Banks     Baines   Roscoe   Jones
         
                Marriott   Osborne

Crankshaw     CCC     Amaluzor

                       Linney
 ( concerned he might be out for a while )

Subs : Kossy, Angus, Donowa, J Jones & Joey Jones

The selection of photos from training posted on the club's Instagram account in the past hour shows Regan training as usual.

Very pleasing to see - he must have just had a knock.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 07, 2023, 04:10:00 PM
                         Ross

Banks     Baines   Roscoe   Jones
         
                Marriott   Osborne

Crankshaw     CCC     Amaluzor

                       Linney
 ( concerned he might be out for a while )

Subs : Kossy, Angus, Donowa, J Jones & Joey Jones

The selection of photos from training posted on the club's Instagram account in the past hour shows Regan training as usual.

Very pleasing to see - he must have just had a knock.

Sadly, I think it is an old photo.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 07, 2023, 07:57:11 PM
                         Ross

Banks     Baines   Roscoe   Jones
         
                Marriott   Osborne

Crankshaw     CCC     Amaluzor

                       Linney
 ( concerned he might be out for a while )

Subs : Kossy, Angus, Donowa, J Jones & Joey Jones

The selection of photos from training posted on the club's Instagram account in the past hour shows Regan training as usual.

Very pleasing to see - he must have just had a knock.

Sadly, I think it is an old photo.

Really?  :'( I did get a little bit concerned when he posted something about a setback on his Instagram - you wouldn't say that if you were just sitting the odd game out. As ever, some communication around the subject from the club would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on September 08, 2023, 09:32:36 AM
I still don't know what's up with Justin Donowa, he's been missing some time now.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: robininstockport on September 08, 2023, 09:37:56 AM
I still don't know what's up with Justin Donowa, he's been missing some time now.

About a week away i belive
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 09, 2023, 03:00:19 PM
Radio robins playing up again
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 09, 2023, 03:24:33 PM
I still don't know what's up with Justin Donowa, he's been missing some time now.

About a week away i believe

On the bench today
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on September 09, 2023, 03:36:30 PM
Bloody music AGAIN on radio Alty keeps cutting in
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 09, 2023, 03:37:06 PM
Ethan doing his bit for us! 👍
Come on you Supers!
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on September 09, 2023, 03:41:23 PM
if i hear that bloody woman singing Layla one more time the computer is out the window
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: jhcorbett on September 09, 2023, 03:43:48 PM
Need to go back to radio robins streamed separately from Radio Alty if possible. Just adverts and random bits of music. Summariser is inaudible as well
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: altyusa on September 09, 2023, 03:44:46 PM
Harold!  Ha!  Was just thinking the same thing……didn’t sound good for Crankshaw😕
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on September 09, 2023, 03:56:09 PM
Another corner, header… goal!!! Where’s Baines & Jones (our best defenders?)
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Stuartalty on September 09, 2023, 04:05:20 PM
Need to go back to radio robins streamed separately from Radio Alty if possible. Just adverts and random bits of music. Summariser is inaudible as well

The way I read this is Adverts, music and random snippets of radio robins
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 09, 2023, 04:43:10 PM
Good night nurse. 😒
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on September 09, 2023, 04:48:08 PM
Nothing good about this game for Alty it seems.

Bad radio stream, terrible camera work on the video stream.

It also sounds like our ref is only the third worst of the day. The Halifax game saw the ref smack a player in the face then give him a red, and Ashmore has handled his ball roughly 3m out of his area without getting a card.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 09, 2023, 06:19:53 PM
All the above points are relevant, but the bottom line was that we were appalling. Once again we conceded the first goal to a free header in the box, and we were repeatedly cut apart by their passing game (quick and incisive where ours was slow and laboured). We lacked creativity, and I'm sorry to say that we don't look any better on the field than we did two years ago.

I haven't got a magic wand, but somebody needs to find one and wave it PDQ.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 09, 2023, 06:27:14 PM
I wasn’t there today but listened to bits on radio robins when it worked. From the bits I heard it sadly seems that our biggest problem yet again is the defence leaking goals just as they did last season.
This problem needs sorting out asap otherwise a great start to the season is going to mean nothing.
We do not want this season turning into a copy of last season, there has been lots of talk (myself Included) about development of the ground etc. to do this we have to have a consistent team that will make folks want to come and watch regularly.

I think we should employ a defensive coach as it’s blatantly obvious that the way our defenders are currently coached isn’t working, we have tried most combinations at the back apart from using Baines (arguably our best defender) maybe he isn’t fit but it would be nice if an update on his condition was announced
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 09, 2023, 06:32:28 PM
All the above points are relevant, but the bottom line was that we were appalling. Once again we conceded the first goal to a free header in the box, and we were repeatedly cut apart by their passing game (quick and incisive where ours was slow and laboured). We lacked creativity, and I'm sorry to say that we don't look any better on the field than we did two years ago.

I haven't got a magic wand, but somebody needs to find one and wave it PDQ.

You mentioned being quick and incisive Phil. Spot on mate. We take an age to get the ball forward (ie each of the back line have two touches before it goes forward.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: hsmith1 on September 09, 2023, 06:34:56 PM
do we practice defending corners in training?
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 09, 2023, 06:42:56 PM
If we do we're not taking it on board.
I'm not sure what our best centre back pairing is and I'm sure I'm not on my own. We need to play our best pairing and grow some understanding fast. That surely can only come when players have defined roles in situations and know and understand both their own role/responsibilities and the roles of their teammates.
That's my twopennoth anyway.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on September 09, 2023, 07:13:35 PM

Watched the National League TV stream, which featured some very dodgy camerawork (including at one point bizarrely zooming in on the anti-pigeon netting underneath the roof of the main stand!).

We were comprehensively outplayed and Barnet could easily have doubled their goal tally.

I would say that Ethan Ross is the only Alty player to have emerged with any credit from what was a hugely dispiriting performance.

Merely two shots of note on target, from Crankshaw and Amaluzor respectively. Conn-Clarke a peripheral figure. Ponderous stuff, once again, and our defence looked about as watertight as HM Prison Wandsworth. Embarrassingly fast asleep for that corner which resulted in their third goal.

I am already worried about Banks (who was fortunate to avoid a second yellow card) and Joey Jones looks light years off the pace.

We can only pray that Crankshaw's injury isn't as serious as it looked. Amidst rumours that Regan Linney will be out of action until Christmas, the necessity to enter the loan market looms large once again.
 
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Mick on September 09, 2023, 07:30:13 PM
Dinanga brace today.....maybe get him in on loan if Linney out...   ;)

Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: distancetraveller on September 09, 2023, 08:37:50 PM
Just listened to Parkys post match interview. I get where he is coming from apart from the bit where he says he isn’t concerned about conceding goals from corners. I respect you as a manager Phil but you have got to be in the minority of Alty fans if your not concerned about it.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: finnquark1 on September 09, 2023, 08:45:05 PM
Yeah that answer to the corner question is just a load of hoary old drivel, unfortunately. Saying it every week doesnt make it true.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: oneedham on September 09, 2023, 09:31:20 PM
Baines, our best defender last yeat, seems to be the one being dropped. No idea why.
We have terrible luck with bad injuries.
For me, Linney is the biggest loss for this team.
To play 9 in our formation is a proper graft and not many can do it, as we have seen on numerous occasions.
You have to be quick, strong, harrass defenders, run the channels and be aggressive.
I like Angus but Linney made us a different animal.
We need to look for a striker with those attributes.
Still feel we are a decent RB, CM and now striker short.
Play Amaluzor on the left, he will cause more issues.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on September 10, 2023, 07:50:30 AM
Just listened to Parkys post match interview. I get where he is coming from apart from the bit where he says he isn’t concerned about conceding goals from corners. I respect you as a manager Phil but you have got to be in the minority of Alty fans if your not concerned about it.

In a minority Ray? He's a lone voice crying in the wilderness!

If you can find me single Alty fan who isn't concerned at our vulnerability to high balls into the box I'll be dumbfounded. And yesterday we learned that it isn't just high balls that are a problem.
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on September 10, 2023, 11:31:08 AM
The only upside is that it's saved me another £2.20 again today! 😉
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: Julie on September 11, 2023, 08:35:28 AM
Couple of things I noticed on Saturday.
The setup down there is obviously very nice, but just how much the two team benches are exposed. They were literally the first two rows of seats in the stand. No cover/dugout type setup.  The heat on Saturday was so brutal that during the first half nearly all of the home fans in that stand transferred to the opposite side to get out of the sun, leaving pretty well the two teams baking alone. I particularly felt sorry for the subs who cooked in the first half, stay out on the pitch during HT and then get cooked again 2nd half. At least the starters and management got 20 mins inside at HT. You'd think with an all new stadium they'd consider our climate and offer the players a bit of cover from the elements. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the players had heat related illness that night.

The other thing was that one of our subs got booked at HT for saying something to the ref. Think it might have been Kosylo, but not sure. Wondering if that gets reported inside to the manager by the ref? assume that would then impact bringing him on as a sub as it has attached risk?

Poor day Saturday, keeper saved us from a significantly more embarrassing result. Hopefully a big reaction and result coming next time out !!
Title: Re: Barnet Match Thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on September 11, 2023, 09:57:58 AM
What concerned me in particular from the highlights was the handbags going on between Joey Jones and Roscoe after we conceded the 2nd goal.

I must say, I'm just concerned with Joey Jones in general. For all the supposed 'leadership acumen' he's meant to have brought to the table, he does seem to stand around barking orders at others, without seemingly doing very much himself.