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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Mrs Warbouys on April 03, 2013, 11:02:43 PM
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By crisis club Macclesfield
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Good move as he is managing above his standard
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lets watch another financial basket case unravel. Big problems there money wise....all self inflicted.
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laugh or cry?
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Good move as he is managing above his standard
If Macc is above your standard then you know you are in trouble!
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FC Town of Macclesfield - NW Counties League Division 2 Champions 2015/16
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PMIL
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Good move as he is managing above his standard
If Macc is above your standard then you know you are in trouble!
all joking aside my comment is correct
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Now, let's just think about this for a minute...
Steve King wreaked utter havoc at Northwich and now I suspect that the financial ramifications of his tenure at Macc will prove to be very severe for them.
The man is a genius!
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Now, let's just think about this for a minute...
Steve King wreaked utter havoc at Northwich and now I suspect that the financial ramifications of his tenure at Macc will prove to be very severe for them.
The man is a genius!
agent King has done his job welll, now we just need to get promoted
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This interview is class.
He knows he has been sacked and the interviewer knows he has been sacked, but neither will say it!
http://www.silk1069.com/king-sacked-following-3-1-defeat-against-grimsby-at-the-moss/
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Slimy toad
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Suppose it's too much to hope that he could get the manager's job at Accrington....... ;D
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Suppose it's too much to hope that he could get the manager's job at Accrington....... ;D
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Steve King seems to be writing his own football horror story. The man's failure rate is extraordinary!
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Suppose it's too much to hope that he could get the manager's job at Accrington....... ;D
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Steve King seems to be writing his own football horror story. The man's failure rate is extraordinary!
Looks like a shoe in for the Blackburn Rovers job then ?
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Suppose it's too much to hope that he could get the manager's job at Accrington....... ;D
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Steve King seems to be writing his own football horror story. The man's failure rate is extraordinary!
Looks like a shoe in for the Blackburn Rovers job then ?
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Steve King @_StevenKing 26m
Silkmen wont make The Playoffs. But I, da King have made The Payoffs. Again! #Sacked4timeswivcompensation
Retweeted by Jack W Jolly
"1155:
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Blackburn Rovers managing director Derek Shaw has been told to stay away from Ewood Park during an investigation into the compensation owed to former boss Henning Berg.
On Wednesday Shaw received notice of the disciplinary inquiry in a letter. Berg, who was sacked in late December, says he is owed approximately £2m and has taken his claim to the High Court.
Global advisor Shebby Singh will fly to India on Thursday for meetings with owners Venky's to discuss the matter."
You might have a point their (S)Alty!
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This interview is class.
He knows he has been sacked and the interviewer knows he has been sacked, but neither will say it!
http://www.silk1069.com/king-sacked-following-3-1-defeat-against-grimsby-at-the-moss/
Lovely to hear the cliche-ridden shyster going for the old 'rub of the green' excuse!
We await the financial meltdown....
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Only when I read the phrase dim unitive smartly dressed micro manager did I realise that it was not Jeff King who was Macc manager
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laugh or cry?
Laugh, of course. :D :D :D :D
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Funny http://fansonline.net/macclesfieldtown/mb/view.php?id=108968
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LS to Macc
Hmmmm
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LS to Macc
Hmmmm
We can hope ;)
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LS to Macc
Hmmmm
We can hope ;)
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Not going to happen hopefully
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What's in that for Lee? Closer to home? Nope. Higher placed team? Yep, but marginal. Stable club? No. Bigger club? No.
Nah, Lee will move onto bigger things than Alty at some point, but that won't involve Macclescum I'm sure.
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Two months on from Steve King getting the boot and our sheep bothering neighbours have somehow still not appointed a new manager.
Trouble at t'mill definitely.
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Strong rumours that they are going into receivership next, nobody getting paid etc.
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The owe alot of money and may not even have a ground soon at least not at its current location.
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The topic comes back to the top and they appoint a manager in Askey!! Couldn't get who they wanted so kept the caretaker on?? Efe Sodje has left Bury to be assistant.
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1438:
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Conference Premier side Macclesfield Town appoint John Askey as their new permanent manager. Askey took caretaker charge of the club's final five league games last season after the dismissal of Steve King. Askey will be assisted by ex-Nigeria defender Efe Sodje, who recently left Bury and played for the Silkmen for two years during the 1990s.
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what a superb read their fourm is!!!!
"what a sh*te appointment...we are a laughing stock...cheap option...9 weeks to appoint the caretaker with no record.....we were told to expect experience FFS!.....
....but still I wish these legends the very best and I am right behind the two jokers!!"
;D ;D ;D ;D
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No money, no future, no idea, 10 point deduction is only a matter of time. The season after next we could easily be a league above them.
You heard it here first :D
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No money, no future, no idea, 10 point deduction is only a matter of time. The season after next we could easily be a league above them.
You heard it here first :D
..and that small part of the natural order of things would have been restored...
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Obvious what's happening here then.
2012-13 with Steve King at the helm was always set as the sh*t or bust promotion season, despite chucking top dollar at the squad the milkmen were never really in serious promotion contention after Christmas.
Now, the budget has been slashed and the club stalwart who would never get a gig elsewhere has been given the hospital pass. By appointing two Macc legends the board have bought some time but essentially Macc have given up on getting back to the FL for the foreseeable. They'll be sub 1000 gates in the coming season without a shadow.
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Obvious what's happening here then.
2012-13 with Steve King at the helm was always set as the sh*t or bust promotion season, despite chucking top dollar at the squad the milkmen were never really in serious promotion contention after Christmas.
Now, the budget has been slashed and the club stalwart who would never get a gig elsewhere has been given the hospital pass. By appointing two Macc legends the board have bought some time but essentially Macc have given up on getting back to the FL for the foreseeable. They'll be sub 1000 gates in the coming season without a shadow.
And what do you think the gates will be WITH a shadow. ;D ;D
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http://www.mtfc.co.uk/news/article/silkmen-to-be-owned-by-the-community-840481.aspx
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Is this basically being owned by the council? An intriguing set-up, not the same as being owned by the fans which for me is the ideal, but may potentially protect you from some of the idiots out there who think they can run clubs. However, if this is , as I think, amount to council ownership then how does that sit with Austerity Daves cut in funding to councils?
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It's not owned by the council, it's owned by a community interest company. The council own the freehold of the ground. That's all tied in with the new stadium plan as the area the council wants to develop needs a road through the Moss Rose.
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Honest question then Silkyman, cos I don't know. What is the difference between the council ownership and a "community interest company"? The link quotes "A Community Interest Company is a new vehicle for community and social enterprise", which I don't understand. Who owns the 'community interest company'?
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A community interest company is just a different business model. From what I can see its separate from the Council, but the council funding was needed to get through/prevent the financial issues.
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Looks like council ownership, one step removed. It may work out OK.
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http://www.mtfc.co.uk/news/article/community-interest-company-858516.aspx
A bit more on the model.
the council won't own the club at all. They will own the freehold on the ground which looks to be part of the development of a new stadium. the council want to develop a chunk of land south of the town, but seem to need to build a road through the Moss Rose to do it. there's still a coveneant on the ground so they have to build a new ground if they want to build the road.
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I have some inside info from a mate on the council, and here's the model they're going to follow for the new ground:
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42370000/jpg/_42370945_02ghanachelsea.jpg)
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I have some inside info from a mate on the council, and here's the model they're going to follow for the new ground:
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42370000/jpg/_42370945_02ghanachelsea.jpg)
Upgrading then!
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From what I hear from Macc fans I know, even though the move is a very positive step (and one they should be applauded for) for the club long term, it also means that in the short term they will have a dramatically reduced budget next season and it wouldnt be surprising to see Macc relegated to BSN by the following year. So, if things go well we swop places/leagues with MTFC then at last the natural order of things may finally be restored :D
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That all depends on whether the guesswork of the NLP is in the slightest bit accurate.
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That all depends on whether the guesswork of the NLP is in the slightest bit accurate.
My source comes from within your own club. Askey is a great guy but is he the best guy to keep you in BSP? Time will tell.
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Your source in the club doesn't seem to know much then.
http://www.mtfc.co.uk/news/article/andy-scott-interview-100613-859812.aspx
“There have been some reports about our budget for next season. As a club we don’t like to put exact figures into the public domain, but the low budget suggested in the press at the weekend is inaccurate.
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They've been nationalised!
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Your source in the club doesn't seem to know much then.
http://www.mtfc.co.uk/news/article/andy-scott-interview-100613-859812.aspx
“There have been some reports about our budget for next season. As a club we don’t like to put exact figures into the public domain, but the low budget suggested in the press at the weekend is inaccurate.
With respect that doesnt say anything except the usual banging of the drum for support, indeed it only confirms the situation that;
1. MTFC will now have to live within its means, which with your gates wont be a lot.
2. The long term tenure/stability has improved, not going bust as was very close,....providing you do get more income and dont spend more than you earn.
3. Just like other non league sides again then ehh.
4. When are you going part time then? already?
It's good news for MTFC potentially but can you really expect to get back into the FL anytime soon? More likely you will go the other way.
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Not going part time yet. Certainly not next season.
This season will be the hardest one, but hopefully with the club now back as a community club, we'll see the gates rising again, and more local businesses getting involved.
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Not going part time yet. Certainly not next season.
This season will be the hardest one, but hopefully with the club now back as a community club, we'll see the gates rising again, and more local businesses getting involved.
If they weren't getting involved when you were playing Man City in league games they are hardly likely to do so now you're playing Welling United.
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Macc town have to live within their means and they're not going part time next season?
I think transferring ownership to the 'community' is what clobbered dave pace and droylsden....seems hmrc consider vat is due on the proceeds....just saying like.
Anyway I hope Macc do start to live within their means and avoid the fates of Runcorn and northwich as we should be playing them regularly....preferably in games that confirm their relegation/going out of the FA cup.... ;D ;D
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I wonder if anyone in Macc then has seen the current issue of Private Eye then were their knights in shining armour-Cheshire East Council-have a prominent piece in the infamous 'Rotten Boroughs' column. Macc's local authority decscribed as 'secretive and authoratarian' in addition to 'falsifying records and lying to the local government ombudsman' and suppressing critical reports.
Hope all the paperwork is in order then and no one asks any awkward questions. I'm sure it will all go swimmingly.... ;D
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Sounds like a marriage made in heaven ................................................ or that other place ::)
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Not going part time yet. Certainly not next season.
This season will be the hardest one, but hopefully with the club now back as a community club, we'll see the gates rising again, and more local businesses getting involved.
If they weren't getting involved when you were playing Man City in league games they are hardly likely to do so now you're playing Welling United.
That was 15 years ago nearly. And they did get involved then. It's more recently that the club has drifted away.
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I wonder if anyone in Macc then has seen the current issue of Private Eye then were their knights in shining armour-Cheshire East Council-have a prominent piece in the infamous 'Rotten Boroughs' column. Macc's local authority decscribed as 'secretive and authoratarian' in addition to 'falsifying records and lying to the local government ombudsman' and suppressing critical reports.
Hope all the paperwork is in order then and no one asks any awkward questions. I'm sure it will all go swimmingly.... ;D
Is that relating to the Lyme Green debacle?
The council voted to start a £90m regeneration of the town centre yesterday.
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Lyme Green and more...
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I wonder if anyone in Macc then has seen the current issue of Private Eye then were their knights in shining armour-Cheshire East Council-have a prominent piece in the infamous 'Rotten Boroughs' column. Macc's local authority decscribed as 'secretive and authoratarian' in addition to 'falsifying records and lying to the local government ombudsman' and suppressing critical reports.
Hope all the paperwork is in order then and no one asks any awkward questions. I'm sure it will all go swimmingly.... ;D
Is that relating to the Lyme Green debacle?
The council voted to start a £90m regeneration of the town centre yesterday.
A council vote means the square root of f**k all. And regeneration doesn't always mean that, especially when that regen is not being overseen by the council whilst considering . A private regeneration can lead to businesses moving out of the area due to a rise in costs. The town is then left with empty units and the town ends up looking even more run down and people seek alternatives.
Its all well and good throwing out numbers that the town will seek. But what about your club? £285,000 for your ground? Thats a small semi-detatched gaff round our way...
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I wonder if anyone in Macc then has seen the current issue of Private Eye then were their knights in shining armour-Cheshire East Council-have a prominent piece in the infamous 'Rotten Boroughs' column. Macc's local authority decscribed as 'secretive and authoratarian' in addition to 'falsifying records and lying to the local government ombudsman' and suppressing critical reports.
Hope all the paperwork is in order then and no one asks any awkward questions. I'm sure it will all go swimmingly.... ;D
Is that relating to the Lyme Green debacle?
The council voted to start a £90m regeneration of the town centre yesterday.
A council vote means the square root of f**k all. And regeneration doesn't always mean that, especially when that regen is not being overseen by the council whilst considering . A private regeneration can lead to businesses moving out of the area due to a rise in costs. The town is then left with empty units and the town ends up looking even more run down and people seek alternatives.
Its all well and good throwing out numbers that the town will seek. But what about your club? £285,000 for your ground? Thats a small semi-detatched gaff round our way...
classic line!
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Lyme Green and more...
Which edition. I don't always buy it ,and don't want t otrawl through the wrong one.
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I wonder if anyone in Macc then has seen the current issue of Private Eye then were their knights in shining armour-Cheshire East Council-have a prominent piece in the infamous 'Rotten Boroughs' column. Macc's local authority decscribed as 'secretive and authoratarian' in addition to 'falsifying records and lying to the local government ombudsman' and suppressing critical reports.
Hope all the paperwork is in order then and no one asks any awkward questions. I'm sure it will all go swimmingly.... ;D
Is that relating to the Lyme Green debacle?
The council voted to start a £90m regeneration of the town centre yesterday.
A council vote means the square root of f**k all. And regeneration doesn't always mean that, especially when that regen is not being overseen by the council whilst considering . A private regeneration can lead to businesses moving out of the area due to a rise in costs. The town is then left with empty units and the town ends up looking even more run down and people seek alternatives.
Its all well and good throwing out numbers that the town will seek. But what about your club? £285,000 for your ground? Thats a small semi-detatched gaff round our way...
It was the final descision. the development is now green lighted. It's been rumbling on for a few years. This move is a good thing.
It's £285k for the freehold, linked in with the South Macc development. Basically an interest free loan in all but name.
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So you put up (for the sake of argument) a mil? And you get £285k knocked off that but it still has to be paid back? That's still a mil output. If I had a 50 year rent I wouldn't be accepting that straight away. If it was a 5-10 year lease then of course I'd look at it... Smacks of someone grabbing for money because they know it'll go tits up on the shorter end of the spectrum...
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Not at all. The freehold is essentially worthless with the long leases in place, and the covenant on the stadium. Atthe fans forum last night it was announced that the club could buy back the freehold at any poit after becoming a CIC, and that any future development of the Moss Roae site would be done by the club to fund the development of a new stadium.
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getting too complex for my brain to understand!
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You still need £100,000 sharpish to stay in business though, looks like your reverting to part time to me...
http://mobile.mtfc.co.uk/news/article/fans-forum-130613-864935.aspx
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£100k in three months shouldn't be impossible. We've currently not got a shirt sponsor, back of the shirt or shorts (all sold last season) and the naming rights deals to what are currently known as The Henshaw's Stand and the Macclesfield Audi stand are all up for grabs too.
Throw in all the ad boards around the stadium and you're quite a long way down the road.
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Yes, it should be really easy to find £100k on 8 weeks, good job we're not in the middle of a recession!....
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Yes, it should be really easy to find £100k on 8 weeks, good job we're not in the middle of a recession!....
50k in 16 days?
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A single player shirt sponsorship at Oxford City would do it!
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£100k in three months shouldn't be impossible. We've currently not got a shirt sponsor, back of the shirt or shorts (all sold last season) and the naming rights deals to what are currently known as The Henshaw's Stand and the Macclesfield Audi stand are all up for grabs too.
Throw in all the ad boards around the stadium and you're quite a long way down the road.
Rearrange these words into a well known phrase or saying:
Land cloud cuckoo
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pay your debts, then look to the future, which in all honesty is looking baaaaleak !!!
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when you look at non league clubs who have moved grounds and it's worked I can think of Wycombe and Yeovil.....any others?...witton have maintained their position I guess....
ground movers that didn't make it vics Runcorn kettering....must be more?.....I can think of hucknall and farsley who's ground moves didn't work causing the clubs to fall....
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Doncaster seems to have worked quite well
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£100k in three months shouldn't be impossible. We've currently not got a shirt sponsor, back of the shirt or shorts (all sold last season) and the naming rights deals to what are currently known as The Henshaw's Stand and the Macclesfield Audi stand are all up for grabs too.
Throw in all the ad boards around the stadium and you're quite a long way down the road.
Rearrange these words into a well known phrase or saying:
Land cloud cuckoo
What? Selling sponsorships and ad boards that we sold last season as well?
The only difference is that we need to do it early summer.
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£100k in three months shouldn't be impossible. We've currently not got a shirt sponsor, back of the shirt or shorts (all sold last season) and the naming rights deals to what are currently known as The Henshaw's Stand and the Macclesfield Audi stand are all up for grabs too.
Throw in all the ad boards around the stadium and you're quite a long way down the road.
Rearrange these words into a well known phrase or saying:
Land cloud cuckoo
What? Selling sponsorships and ad boards that we sold last season as well?
The only difference is that we need to do it early summer.
You certainly do need to do it early summer, in fact you need to raise £50k before the end of July to avoid a winding up order! you're f**ked
Incredible you're £500,000 in debt despite having just been given £285,000 by the council and reaching the FA Cup 4th round last season. How much would you have been in debt in for God's sake?
Narrowly vying with Northwich Whatever FC for the title of north west non league weirdos.
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No. The £285k came after the half million, so it's £215k not £785k.
£50k by the end of July is accurate. But not impossible.
We've just re signed Jack Mackreth for next season, so no part time for us.
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so no part time for us.
good good ;D
although please try and stay in business so we meet next season or at least pass each other on the way in and out of the conference....
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Another good signing for us today as well. Chris Holroyd.
We'll have some firepower next season. We need some defenders and some bite in midfield, but I think we've already got the heart of a side that will be able to stay in the conference.
Both Mackreth and Holroyd (who used to watch Macc as a kid) have turned down bigger money elsewhere to sign for us.
It'll be interesting to see how Sodje performs and if we have Carl Martin as well, as is rumoured, then we're starting to get some half decent defensive players in too.
A long way to go yet, but I'm getting increasingly confident we'll survive this season, and after that we'll be on a level footing.
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Another good signing for us today as well. Chris Holroyd.
We'll have some firepower next season. We need some defenders and some bite in midfield, but I think we've already got the heart of a side that will be able to stay in the conference.
Both Mackreth and Holroyd (who used to watch Macc as a kid) have turned down bigger money elsewhere to sign for us.
It'll be interesting to see how Sodje performs and if we have Carl Martin as well, as is rumoured, then we're starting to get some half decent defensive players in too.
A long way to go yet, but I'm getting increasingly confident we'll survive this season, and after that we'll be on a level footing.
How?
I don't think anyone's ever doubted you won't do well on the pitch but that's not the point.
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We've got a much smaller (but not as small as the NLP suggested apparently) budget this season because we're cutting the cloth to clear the debts. So this season's ad board sales etc will go into last year's debt.
Come the end of the season, and all this stuff will go into the following season's playing budget, because by the end of the season, the debt situation should be under control.
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Within 5 years Macc will be playing second fiddle to Alty
Normal service will be resumed
Fair play Macc you have had a good few years ahead of us in the sunshine, but that time is coming to an end
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so what's this bogus online donation scam that your official website is promoting via a link? ;D
or have I read your forum warning wrong?
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I've not followed that, but looked back on twitter and the club stated that it wasn't an official scheme and followed up with saying fans should only donate to the club or the SST.
Don't see the issue. Apart from someone trying to cash in. Which hopefully they won't be able to now.
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I've not followed that, but looked back on twitter and the club stated that it wasn't an official scheme and followed up with saying fans should only donate to the club or the SST.
Don't see the issue. Apart from someone trying to cash in. Which hopefully they won't be able to now.
I take it your official website does proper checks on all of the people trying to make some money then, just like most people do. If our official site led to a scam I wouldn't be nonchalant and shrugging it off...
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The only link I saw was on facebook, basically saying 'don't use this site'
Don't get the point being made.
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So I retweeted a few items of the twitter auction desperate to raise more than £20 for a signed ball. Surprised then to get a follow back and this direct message:-
Hi we were wondering if you could donate to our website? The club need the money! http://thesilkmenfund.bigcartel.com
So I said no, in a polite way and got the following message back:-
Hi we were wondering if you could donate to our website? The club need the money! http://thesilkmenfund.bigcartel.com
Not in trouble then???
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who is this steve king? did he rite books or owt
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so is the donating site genuine then?...or not...