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Title: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on December 04, 2012, 08:26:54 PM
LEE Sinnott saluted his special reserves after seeing Altrincham launch a crucial month of Blue Square Bet North fixtures with a morale-boosting 3-2 win at Boston United.
 
Boosted by his first goal in Altrincham colours, in the previous game against Hinckley United, fringe striker Ryan Brooke continued to look a capable deputy for the injured James Lawrie, with a prominent role in a deserved win that lifted Sinnott’s side to within four points of the play-off places.
 
Lawrie is expected to be fit for Saturday’s home game with Gainsborough Trinity, but Sinnott admitted he faces a selection dilemma as he paid tribute to the patience and perseverance of Brooke and fellow-striker Danny Mitchley.

"It has been difficult for both lads, because the complexion of our strike force suddenly changed when Damian Reeves came back to us just a couple of weeks before the season started," said the Alty manager.
 
"It wasn’t rocket science that he was going to play, and when James slotted into a more central role, that gave us a further dimension up front.
 
"Unfortunately for Ryan and Danny, it meant fewer opportunities for them, and they have been left kicking their heels a bit. No-one can really quibble with our goalscoring record, but it has been difficult and frustrating for those two lads.
 
‘But they have both been patient and shown a great attitude, and I thought Ryan was excellent at Boston. You have to remember he is still only a young lad of 21 who has just come out of the professional game, but his work-rate and desire has been first class. He may not have scored at Boston, but he was instrumental in us securing all three points. He has put pressure on that position in attack, and that’s what you want."
 
Sinnott urged his side to make home advantage count, after just nine points out of 21 at Moss Lane this season, compared to a remarkable record of eight wins and three draws from 14 League and Cup games on their travels.
 
"We are facing a really congested month, and it is going to be a big ask for the squad," he said.
 
"But we know the importance of it, because when games are coming thick and fast, league positions can change rapidly. It’s a psychological test for the players, after so many away games, but I mean that in a positive manner, because it really is a great opportunity.
 
"It’s the flip side from last season, when you consider we have won three and lost four at home, but when you have got a young squad who are maturing and developing, there will be faults that need ironing out. One is getting our home form back on track. That is paramount."
 
Lawrie and Carl Rodgers are hopeful of being fit, but Danny Hall serves a one-match ban.
 
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: JDN on December 04, 2012, 09:18:50 PM
LS really is a bigger idiot than I thought he was

All looks good in the press but means zip

He been playing football manager to much
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: JDN on December 04, 2012, 09:23:46 PM
If he really thinks he has a striker dilemma he should be shot
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: markecky on December 04, 2012, 09:30:07 PM
He doesn't write the headlines, if you read his quotes he is just saying that both players have been patient in waiting for a chance and that Ryan is still a young player who he thought did his job well on Saturday.

He then talks of how we much we need to improve the home form.

What exactly is he meant to say in the press?
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Nasha on December 04, 2012, 09:37:17 PM
He doesn't write the headlines, if you read his quotes he is just saying that both players have been patient in waiting for a chance and that Ryan is still a young player who he thought did his job well on Saturday.

He then talks of how we much we need to improve the home form.

What exactly is he meant to say in the press?


This. He's hardly going to come out and say 'The sooner Lawrie gets fit again, the better and he will go straight back into the side'. We can all argue all day and all night about his tactics, management style etc, but I think in terms of his handle of the Press he's spot on. Honest to say we're poor, and gives praise when we're good but keeps feet on the ground and take one game at a time.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: PeterJ on December 04, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
LS really is a bigger idiot than I thought he was

All looks good in the press but means zip

He been playing football manager to much

perhaps you have? have you ever even been in a football dressingroom or managed a team even in a sunday league? he is encouraging his players.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Timperley The Best on December 04, 2012, 11:14:12 PM
Can't see brooke starting instead of lawrie on sat
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: im not really here on December 05, 2012, 01:22:26 AM
What do you expect him to say in the press? "We're sh*t and we know we are!" Give Lee Sinnott a break, he shows professionalism and motivates the players and fans.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Jimmy on December 05, 2012, 07:02:02 AM
Granted he made the correct statement in the press but does he really inspire the team and the supporters
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: ASMO on December 05, 2012, 08:21:31 AM
You Know what , i dont think some people will ever be happy about Lee , whatever he says . our best cup run for years , still in a good position to launch an attack for promotion , lets give him and the team some support instead of keep ripping into him every time he talks to the SAM ,which is hardly a top class paper .
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: markecky on December 05, 2012, 09:06:39 AM
I don’t know what he does to the players in the dressing room so I don’t think anyone can comment on that unless they are a player.  I’m sure like with any manager, some love him, some don’t care who is boss as long as their money is there and some think he does things wrong.

I think he is a fairly quiet bloke outside of the dressing room and I suppose it depends what you want from a manager.  I have always thought he has said pretty much what I was thinking in the press, if we’ve been poor he has said it rather than saying “we did well” when everyone thought we were shocking.

Personally I’d rather have a manager who was a bit distant than one who wanted to fight me every time anyone questioned anything.

He could do a lot more to get closer to the fans for sure although maybe we are so used to having managers who are in the fabric of the club that when ones comes in and does his job and goes home then it looks like he is being distant.  He should certainly have attended one of the new recruits night by now.

I’ve never spoken to the bloke and I remain 50/50 on whether he is the man to get us where we want to be but I do think he is getting some unfair criticism in amongst the valid gripes that we have.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Jimmy on December 05, 2012, 09:22:32 AM
Good point eck however you don't have to be a fly on the wall in the dressing room the way they play is evidence of his motivational team talks
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: markecky on December 05, 2012, 09:53:41 AM
I hionestly haven't heard anyone mention motivation or lack of it? 

Do you think that's an issue Jim? Interested to hear your view on that mate...

If I had to list things we could improve/improve I'd have starting Duncan more, not always agreeing with his subs and strengthening the depth of the squad.

I think when we have lost games this season it's been on the whole because of players beign below par (which happens) and some of the above.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Jimmy on December 05, 2012, 10:22:35 AM
My personal opinion is we play great football on the eye however we don't seem to win or even draw when things go wrong maybe a lack of character which I feel could be down to the manager hopefully come may we go up and I'm wrong
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: markecky on December 05, 2012, 10:26:45 AM
My personal opinion is we play great football on the eye however we don't seem to win or even draw when things go wrong maybe a lack of character which I feel could be down to the manager hopefully come may we go up and I'm wrong

See what you mean mate.  There is that element, Solihull being a big example of it I guess.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: RocketDan on December 05, 2012, 11:47:03 AM
My personal opinion is we play great football on the eye however we don't seem to win or even draw when things go wrong maybe a lack of character which I feel could be down to the manager hopefully come may we go up and I'm wrong

I I take on Jimmys point that we do struggle when the chips are down and worry that we will turn into a non-league Arsenal. Ie. we play attractive football but struggle when the going gets tough and ultimately not win trophies etc.

I don't agree however that this mental toughness and character should come from the top down and believe its more to do with the players themselves rather than the manager. You must remember the average age of our outfield players is still rather young. ( 23 perhaps). When the going gets tough, you could argue that Young lads aren't as mentally tough as a team filled with 30 year old journeymen but I too their credit they are far more enthusiastic and willing to work than a seasoned professional who is just looking for his last pay cheque in an aging career.

On the whole I think we need one or two more senior players to help guide the younger players both in training and in games. To help bring a sense a maturity and menatl toughness to the team. Sadly there is no quick fix or a mental gym to help players improve their determination and bravery; our team can only learn through experience.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: whopper on December 05, 2012, 12:08:59 PM
to think that we have'nt really improved after twiss going is a bit depressing  :-\
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Jimmy on December 05, 2012, 12:15:18 PM
My personal opinion is we play great football on the eye however we don't seem to win or even draw when things go wrong maybe a lack of character which I feel could be down to the manager hopefully come may we go up and I'm wrong

I I take on Jimmys point that we do struggle when the chips are down and worry that we will turn into a non-league Arsenal. Ie. we play attractive football but struggle when the going gets tough and ultimately not win trophies etc.

I don't agree however that this mental toughness and character should come from the top down and believe its more to do with the players themselves rather than the manager. You must remember the average age of our outfield players is still rather young. ( 23 perhaps). When the going gets tough, you could argue that Young lads aren't as mentally tough as a team filled with 30 year old journeymen but I too their credit they are far more enthusiastic and willing to work than a seasoned professional who is just looking for his last pay cheque in an aging career.

On the whole I think we need one or two more senior players to help guide the younger players both in training and in games. To help bring a sense a maturity and menatl toughness to the team. Sadly there is no quick fix or a mental gym to help players improve their determination and bravery; our team can only learn through experience.
To be fair dan I did say could be down to the manager and not is down to the manager
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Jenga on December 05, 2012, 12:27:17 PM
to think that we have'nt really improved after twiss going is a bit depressing  :-\

What? we play much better now.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: whopper on December 05, 2012, 01:11:34 PM
to think that we have'nt really improved after twiss going is a bit depressing  :-\

What? we play much better now.
if you consider conceding a lot but scoring a lot as better then its not really is it, the league table does'nt lie
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Jimmy on December 05, 2012, 04:53:40 PM
To be fair ridgeway we do play very good football however you could argue its no good having a beautiful wife if she dosent shag you
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: taxi Phil on December 05, 2012, 05:19:39 PM
To be fair ridgeway we do play very good football however you could argue its no good having a beautiful wife if she dosent shag you
Especially if she shags your mates, and can't cook  ;)
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Steve from Sale on December 05, 2012, 10:32:13 PM
On the subject of Lee Sinnott, I remember meeting him away at Harrogate Town in his very first game as manager. I think he knew me from his first open meeting as he recognised me and started talking to me. he was surprised when I told him I reckoned we would get 250 plus to his first game, which we did. I spoke for a few minutes to him and found him quite approachable and a genuine nice guy, an opinion I still have.

On the whole Ifeel Lee is doing fine, he will find a way to improve our home form, but I sometimes find our fans a little over-critical of him on occasions, when I feel it is more down to the players. see what happens the rest of the season, but lets give him the chance. The club is now on a stable footing, new players have come in like Scott Leather, who shows promise for the future, especially for his age. Also our finances are better thanks to Lees guidance in the FA Cup. we can build on our season starting at home this weekend. Other players such as Ryan Brooke and Danny Mitchley will improve given the chances.

See you Saturday

Steve from Sale
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Get back in yer box! on December 06, 2012, 12:50:29 PM
On the subject of Lee Sinnott...  ...I spoke for a few minutes to him and found him quite approachable and a genuine nice guy, an opinion I still have.
On the whole I feel Lee is doing fine...
...Other players such as Ryan Brooke and Danny Mitchley will improve given the chances.

See you Saturday
Steve from Sale

Just to add a voice of support to Steve's considered post...

There are too many far too scathing posts about Lee, Ryan and Danny.  A bit of realism please, perhaps?  For Lee, stick goes with the territory, but for Ryan and Danny I can't see that all the stick they get is going to help them improve.  It reminds me of all the Michael Twiss hate posts, totally over the top.  Not all players are as gifted as Duncan undoubtedly is and we are Alty not ManU / City.  Lets hope Lee, Danny and Ryan keep improving then we really will have a striking dilemma and we will get out of this 'tin-pot' league as some call it! :)



Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Hugo on December 06, 2012, 12:56:39 PM

On the whole Ifeel Lee is doing fine, he will find a way to improve our home form, but I sometimes find our fans a little over-critical of him on occasions, when I feel it is more down to the players. see what happens the rest of the season, but lets give him the chance. The club is now on a stable footing, new players have come in like Scott Leather, who shows promise for the future, especially for his age. Also our finances are better thanks to Lees guidance in the FA Cup. we can build on our season starting at home this weekend. Other players such as Ryan Brooke and Danny Mitchley will improve given the chances.



Good post that Steve. I suspect there's a lot of fans that share your view.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: whopper on December 06, 2012, 02:37:10 PM
Lets be fair.

 if he's got us around play off territory then 'OK can see progression with the team lets give u another season',

 if he's not anywhere near the play offs come the end of the season then 'cheers for the journey lee'
 :D
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: JDN on December 06, 2012, 07:17:32 PM
I see Boston have just sacked their manager, who currently we have one more point than and were behind in the table before Saturday

Interesting
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: taxi Phil on December 06, 2012, 07:46:11 PM
I see Boston have just sacked their manager, who currently we have one more point than and were behind in the table before Saturday

Interesting
No surprise. They're in shocking form just now.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: JDN on December 06, 2012, 07:56:15 PM
Knee jerk

They one point behind us
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Hamilton on December 06, 2012, 11:00:42 PM
I can see Boston wanting to have a look at Lee - Hull is closer to Boston than Alty and our victories over Boston will have made an impression - but I think Lee has a plan for a couple of years if you look at the youthfulness of the squad and the contracts offered to Leather and Watmore.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: markecky on December 06, 2012, 11:02:20 PM
I can see Boston wanting to have a look at Lee - Hull is closer to Boston than Alty and our victories over Boston will have made an impression - but I think Lee has a plan for a couple of years if you look at the youthfulness of the squad and the contracts offered to Leather and Watmore.

No prizes for guessing the next post  ;D
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Ballers on December 06, 2012, 11:21:22 PM
On the subject of Lee Sinnott, I remember meeting him away at Harrogate Town in his very first game as manager. I think he knew me from his first open meeting as he recognised me and started talking to me. he was surprised when I told him I reckoned we would get 250 plus to his first game, which we did. I spoke for a few minutes to him and found him quite approachable and a genuine nice guy, an opinion I still have.

Other players such as Ryan Brooke and Danny Mitchley will improve given the chances.


He was hopeful in his programme notes for the Burton replay that we would break the four figure barrier for the attendance. I nearly spat my coffee out. I worry that he thinks he's managing Farsley or something and we're just a hobby club where people are happy to trot down and see some nice football. I think he needs to f**king get with it really. Tactically we're way, way too open. Why on earth does he not rectify this??

Yes, we play good football and I think our first XI can beat anyone but the only way we'd go up is if he had the budget for 16 players of that standard and that ain't gonna happen.

And we need to be realistic about how close we really are to the play offs. A team that finishes 5th is inconsistent so even if you're only if the top half you're only ever 6 or 7 points away. I think we've been in the top 5 for a period of about 4 weeks in the past season and a half.

And re Brooke and Mitchley, you have to be good enough to deserve a chance...
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on December 06, 2012, 11:28:52 PM
Id like to see us bring players in elsewhere, scoring goals isn't a problem,the way we set up means we will always create chances.And to be honest sooner that than going to torquay on valentines day to be greeted with a  4-1-4-1 formation with an unfit jody banim playing as a loan striker.But there's got to be a balance. We need a defensive midfielder in my opinion.And a steak head centre back. That will come on when we are rocking a bit at 0-1 away somewhere and just calm it down and boom the ball away.If we were to bring in another forward, we would be best served bringing in a Tall Physical forward that can hold the ball up, or be someone to aim the Hail Mary balls at in stoppage if needed.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: markecky on December 06, 2012, 11:47:56 PM
On the subject of Lee Sinnott, I remember meeting him away at Harrogate Town in his very first game as manager. I think he knew me from his first open meeting as he recognised me and started talking to me. he was surprised when I told him I reckoned we would get 250 plus to his first game, which we did. I spoke for a few minutes to him and found him quite approachable and a genuine nice guy, an opinion I still have.

Other players such as Ryan Brooke and Danny Mitchley will improve given the chances.


He was hopeful in his programme notes for the Burton replay that we would break the four figure barrier for the attendance. I nearly spat my coffee out. I worry that he thinks he's managing Farsley or something and we're just a hobby club where people are happy to trot down and see some nice football. I think he needs to f**king get with it really. Tactically we're way, way too open. Why on earth does he not rectify this??

Yes, we play good football and I think our first XI can beat anyone but the only way we'd go up is if he had the budget for 16 players of that standard and that ain't gonna happen.

And we need to be realistic about how close we really are to the play offs. A team that finishes 5th is inconsistent so even if you're only if the top half you're only ever 6 or 7 points away. I think we've been in the top 5 for a period of about 4 weeks in the past season and a half.

And re Brooke and Mitchley, you have to be good enough to deserve a chance...

I applaud Steve from Sale for having the guts to say what he thinks as positive opinions just aren't popular on here and also for Hugo to agree.

The way some people speak of him you'd think this was his first ever management job and he'd never played a competitive game in his life.

He knows what people expect Ballers, if he didn't at first then he will have done about three games in last season.  The board have always made it clear that they want to go up so why would the manager not know that?

Some of the talk on here is bordering on hysterical.  It's coming after away wins now...not even defeats.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Bob on December 07, 2012, 07:41:24 AM
We have a manager who has been in the professional game for 30 years. Played at Wembley in a cup final in his late teens, captained another team to victory there a decade later. He has played at every level from top flight to Conference. As a manager he has been in charge from lower football league to regional non-league. He has a hell of a lot of knowledge and experience at all levels. I think he would know what the Alty job is about.
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Jimmy on December 07, 2012, 07:43:01 AM
To be honest I think the alty fans are fair in general including this forum
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Steve from Sale on December 08, 2012, 09:28:15 AM
The time to peak the team is now, December onwards, with games in hand that we have and in the final run in. If we win today, I can see us doing well. I have not totally discounted us being capable of winning this league either. Just stop the defensive blips. Thats all you have to do now. Are more full squad with the welcome return of Carl Rodgers will help, as did Damiens two goals last week - hope he has his scoring boots back on.

Believe me, its not all bad in our camp, we are being over-negative caused by a couple of years of disappointment and yo-yoing between North and National.

I say go for it Lee and the team and fear nobody - STARTING TODAY - youve beaten them once, and I like to feel Gainsborough are rattling their sabre because they are sh**ting themselves. They have already been beaten once this season and they do not have home advantage. Depends how you read into what their manager is saying. Me, I just diss it, Lee should do the same.

Feel free to show this post to the players Lee, tell 'em to go for the throat. I used to tell my Unicorn Tigers Under 10's team to do that, and we won 2 league cup finals. Storm them from the start and get them rattled, but keep tight at the back.

My prediction - Alty home win, by how much depends on the lads determination as per above.

Lets do our bit also!
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: Jimmy on December 08, 2012, 09:56:48 AM
Very good post and that's coming from someone who is negative
Title: Re: SAM - Sinnott faces striker selection dilemma
Post by: JDN on December 08, 2012, 11:14:06 AM
We have a manager who has been in the professional game for 30 years. Played at Wembley in a cup final in his late teens, captained another team to victory there a decade later. He has played at every level from top flight to Conference. As a manager he has been in charge from lower football league to regional non-league. He has a hell of a lot of knowledge and experience at all levels. I think he would know what the Alty job is about.
And is a sh*t manager