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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on October 12, 2022, 09:29:21 PM
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Same starting 11 as Saturday if possible just depends on Barrows availability. Would rather Roxborough at RB than J. Jones at CB. Hope Kaja makes the bench.
Alty 2-0 Gateshead. Colclough, Osbourne. Attn 1687.
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Same starting 11 as Saturday if possible just depends on Barrows availability. Would rather Roxborough at RB than J. Jones at CB. Hope Kaja makes the bench.
Alty 2-0 Gateshead. Colclough, Osbourne. Attn 1687.
I agree with the Roxburgh / Jones assessment - as much as Toby becomes a goal machine at right back, we'd all much rather have him in the middle.
Good to see Conn-Clarke is OK - Bennett probably deserves a start at some point but I don't think I'd play the pair of them together in the same team.
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Same starting 11 as Saturday if possible just depends on Barrows availability. Would rather Roxborough at RB than J. Jones at CB. Hope Kaja makes the bench.
Alty 2-0 Gateshead. Colclough, Osbourne. Attn 1687.
I agree with the Roxburgh / Jones assessment - as much as Toby becomes a goal machine at right back, we'd all much rather have him in the middle.
Good to see Conn-Clarke is OK - Bennett probably deserves a start at some point but I don't think I'd play the pair of them together in the same team.
Aye, I think we've learned the hard way with that, haven't we. We've looked far more solid with Brad Jackson grafting away on the right.
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Same starting 11 as Saturday if possible just depends on Barrows availability. Would rather Roxborough at RB than J. Jones at CB. Hope Kaja makes the bench.
Alty 2-0 Gateshead. Colclough, Osbourne. Attn 1687.
I agree with the Roxburgh / Jones assessment - as much as Toby becomes a goal machine at right back, we'd all much rather have him in the middle.
Good to see Conn-Clarke is OK - Bennett probably deserves a start at some point but I don't think I'd play the pair of them together in the same team.
Bennett went of injured on Tuesday, tweaked hammie, so you won't see him for a few weeks now I imagine. Hopefully Goodson will make the bench.
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Same starting 11 as Saturday if possible just depends on Barrows availability. Would rather Roxborough at RB than J. Jones at CB. Hope Kaja makes the bench.
Alty 2-0 Gateshead. Colclough, Osbourne. Attn 1687.
I agree with the Roxburgh / Jones assessment - as much as Toby becomes a goal machine at right back, we'd all much rather have him in the middle.
Good to see Conn-Clarke is OK - Bennett probably deserves a start at some point but I don't think I'd play the pair of them together in the same team.
Bennett went of injured on Tuesday, tweaked hammie, so you won't see him for a few weeks now I imagine. Hopefully Goodson will make the bench.
Ah, shame about Bennett - he looked good at the weekend. Takes one of the main selection headaches away I suppose.
Sounds like a productive Cheshire Cup outing for a lot of the fringe players and those returning to fitness; would be good to see a couple make the bench / feature on Saturday.
I assume all the loanees will be allowed to play? - I can't see the Championship clubs (Stoke / Preston) wanting their players not to be cup-tied, however Conn-Clarke might be a bit of a worry if he's acquitted himself well for Fleetwood's development squad midweek...?
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Do we think we may see a cup goalkeeper? Gould or Mee?
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Do we think we may see a cup goalkeeper? Gould or Mee?
I hope not, need to get Byrne back in and best available 11 on the pitch overall.
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Same starting 11 as Saturday if possible just depends on Barrows availability. Would rather Roxborough at RB than J. Jones at CB. Hope Kaja makes the bench.
Alty 2-0 Gateshead. Colclough, Osbourne. Attn 1687.
Hopefully same 11.
Shame about Bennett, he is improving each game. As mentioned above we are more solid with one of CCC or Bennett on the pitch and not both.
Spoke to Kaja last sat. He said 2 weeks so possibly too soon. Seemed keen to get going.
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Time for revenge on Saturday and this time without one hand tied behind our back by Trafford shutting half the ground and the home fans being bunged onto the Chequers. That gave Gateshead a big advantage before a ball was kicked that night no question and with it a very weird atmosphere, so good to start with a level playing field off the pitch this time.
I make us slight favourites with home advantage and in much better form than they are in the league. 3-1 Alty. With no City or United and good prices and hospitality offers hoping we might push over 2000 in.
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And wouldn't it be funny if Goodson turned out to be a sort of version of Langstaff for us? If his finishing is really better than Hulme's and Dinanga's at the moment...
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And wouldn't it be funny if Goodson turned out to be a sort of version of Langstaff for us? If his finishing is really better than Hulme's and Dinanga's at the moment...
Young lad with good potential, maybe over time he will apply pressure to Marcus and Jordan. Maybe he can switch to the No10 role as well as the wing. For now, one of the main strikers should be starting. Personally, on current form it should be Marcus.
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I know it's not what we wanted at the time, but I felt our team needed a poacher (which is why we took a punt on Jamie McDonald)
I'd like to see us look at trying to find a Reeves, even if it s a younger player we nurture.
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Byrne
Barrows* Mullarkey (c) Cooper E.Jones
Lundstram Osborne
Jackson Conn-Clarke Colclough
Dinanga
Subs: Brockbank, Roxburgh*, J.Jones, Malone, Pringle, Goodson, Hulme
If Barrows doesn't make it due to concussion protocol, hopefully it'll just be a straight swap for Roxburgh rather than moving the wider team around, with Gould on the bench.
At this point we might as well send Mee back to United if we can, don't really see the reason in having him on the books now (and I'm going to pretend Byron Harrison was a dream).
Out of the bench options I think we'll probably see Jordan at some point, which means I suspect we might see Goodson deployed on the right.
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Byrne
Barrows* Mullarkey (c) Cooper E.Jones
Lundstram Osborne
Jackson Conn-Clarke Colclough
Dinanga
Subs: Brockbank, Roxburgh*, J.Jones, Malone, Pringle, Goodson, Hulme
If Barrows doesn't make it due to concussion protocol, hopefully it'll just be a straight swap for Roxburgh rather than moving the wider team around, with Gould on the bench.
At this point we might as well send Mee back to United if we can, don't really see the reason in having him on the books now (and I'm going to pretend Byron Harrison was a dream).
Out of the bench options I think we'll probably see Jordan at some point, which means I suspect we might see Goodson deployed on the right.
barring injuries, think you could be spot on here Marple.
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Byrne
Barrows* Mullarkey (c) Cooper E.Jones
Lundstram Osborne
Jackson Conn-Clarke Colclough
Dinanga
Subs: Brockbank, Roxburgh*, J.Jones, Malone, Pringle, Goodson, Hulme
If Barrows doesn't make it due to concussion protocol, hopefully it'll just be a straight swap for Roxburgh rather than moving the wider team around, with Gould on the bench.
At this point we might as well send Mee back to United if we can, don't really see the reason in having him on the books now (and I'm going to pretend Byron Harrison was a dream).
Out of the bench options I think we'll probably see Jordan at some point, which means I suspect we might see Goodson deployed on the right.
It would be absolutely suicidal to have 7 players on a bench and not have a GK involved - Mee or Gould.
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There will definitely be a sub on the bench
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Time for revenge on Saturday and this time without one hand tied behind our back by Trafford shutting half the ground and the home fans being bunged onto the Chequers. That gave Gateshead a big advantage before a ball was kicked that night no question and with it a very weird atmosphere, so good to start with a level playing field off the pitch this time.
I make us slight favourites with home advantage and in much better form than they are in the league. 3-1 Alty. With no City or United and good prices and hospitality offers hoping we might push over 2000 in.
I'm not sure that we will ever be able to exact proportionate revenge for last year's First Round replay defeat, which cost the club at least £100k.
That evening was the undisputed nadir of last season.
Much as I would like to be proved wrong, I cannot see us attracting an attendance of circa 2,000 for Saturday's fixture. There are a few Alty season ticket holders who simply don't turn out/won't pay for cup matches.
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There will definitely be a sub on the bench
Let's hope he has a few of them!
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i feel a bit worried about this game,i know we beat them 1-3 but that will make them more keen to win.Lets just hope we get passed them and start a really good and long cup run.
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Ryan on the bench?
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Ryan on the bench?
Indeed. Lucky to still be in the tie after slightly baffling team selection. Poor first half, Gateshead should have wrapped it up then.
We went up a couple of levels once the subs were made to get us closer to our best team and might have nicked a win late on.
Hope Chris Conn Clarke is OK, he had an excellent game today.
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Ryan on the bench?
Indeed. Lucky to still be in the tie after slightly baffling team selection……
The baffling team selection was governed by the ludicrous decision to risk Bennett at Sandbach. His inability to now play before Christmas is going to bite us in the bum.
Did we really play in the FA Cup today? Did anyone tell the players? Not only did we see little cohesion, very little skill, no structure or plan but we also saw no desire whatsoever.
It’s all very well PP telling us what a great bunch of players we’ve got, and Bill Waterson waxing lyrical about how they are going to rival our best teams of the past, but I simply don’t see it.
Clearly Dorking was a flash in the pan not the beginning of some new dawn. It’s time PP started to turn this round and make it stick.
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After seeing the team selection it played out exactly how I think most of us would have predicted - less cohesion than previous weeks, and wide open at the back.
The manager has options at right back that allow him not to have to move our best centre back there - we twigged about the Bennett / Conn-Clarke playing together thing, this needs to be the next thing.
Pringle is much better coming on than starting.
Conn-Clarke is going to be black and blue tomorrow, they absolutely hacked him to death.
I think Eddy Jones has improved loads since his last spell with us.
Colclough seemed to play everywhere but his best position when he came on. Bizarre afternoon.
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I took some first timers to the match today and was a little embarrassed that only one team played football. There was no width and the midfield acted like strangers and a lot of bitching between the players. I had extolled the virtues of Coco and mystified why he didn't start. That said they really enjoyed it!
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Colclough has had a very heavy cold apparently.
Why malarkey is second choice rb is mind boggling.
Conn-Clarke was battered black and blue, received no protection from the ref and has little chance of playing Tuesday.
What position was Malone playing and why
Aside from the first 10 mins the first half was dire.
Improved when Hulme and sniffly Colclough came on.
Believe Mullarkey came off with an injury..
Bennett has torn a hamstring and gone back to parent club.
Poor day all-round but we are in the hat on Monday.
When was the last time a player scored 4 games on the spin?
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Ryan on the bench?
The chairman informed me after the game that Ryan wasn’t feeling well so fair play for him to actually come on as a sub
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I'm relieved that we are somehow still in the competition (although it will, in all likelihood, merely comprise a temporary stay of execution).
As Nom de plume notes earlier, where were the desire and passion that should constitute the bare minimum of requirements in an FA Cup tie, especially with the prize money of £9k on offer?
Once they equalised, Gateshead played the better football and they really should have put the game to bed on the stroke of half-time.
By contrast, we looked disjointed and largely directionless, especially in the absence of any attacking threat down both wings.
I thought that Lundstram was comfortably our best performer. James Jones' malaise continues and Cooper looked shaky alongside him.
I'm afraid that the purpose of playing Malone entirely eludes me. Too frail and the game simply passes him by.
A dispiritingly flat and laboured display. Here's to a victory on penalties on Tuesday evening...
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Think it was clear to see that was the wrong starting 11.
We were far too open with no width.
Can't be playing Osborne and Malone in the same team. Pringle didn't impress either.
Hoping Barrows can play Tuesday have Toby back at CB. Cooper and Jones were poor today.
They were awful at the back. Can't believe we started without any wide players, we would have split that defence numerous times with wide players ,Con-Clarke and Dinanga central.
Thought Con-Clarke and Dinanga played well but Lundstram was my MOTM again.
Can't wait to see him and a fully fit Marriott.
I am worried we may have missed the opportunity of the FA Cup 1st round draw by that poor selection. We are shocking at trying to soak up pressure and Gateshead were there for the taking with the correct team selection and attacking play.
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Ryan on the bench?
The chairman informed me after the game that Ryan wasn’t feeling well so fair play for him to actually come on as a sub
A cold you can play through.
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Why do the management insist in playing Toby at RB the bloke is the best CB at the club for Gods sake.
James Jones is not the same player from when he was previously with Alty.
Felt sorry for CCC today he got lumps kicked out of him
I know he scored a good goal but Dinanga is too lightweight up front he can’t hold the ball up and he doesn’t anticipate situations. I think Zak Goodson deserves a start.
Thought we were lucky to get a second shot at the FA Cup after the first half performance.
Please please please stop passing the ball ball back to the keeper so much. Teams have sussed us now and they just press us so we end up lumping it to them anyway.
Hopefully Ryan will be well enough to be able to play next Tuesday.
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Ryan on the bench?
The chairman informed me after the game that Ryan wasn’t feeling well so fair play for him to actually come on as a sub
A cold you can play through.
I never said he had a cold , if the guy doesn’t feel well enough to start then fair enough
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Why do the management insist in playing Toby at RB the bloke is the best CB at the club for Gods sake.
James Jones is not the same player from when he was previously with Alty.
Felt sorry for CCC today he got lumps kicked out of him
I know he scored a good goal but Dinanga is too lightweight up front he can’t hold the ball up and he doesn’t anticipate situations. I think Zak Goodson deserves a start.
Thought we were lucky to get a second shot at the FA Cup after the first half performance.
Please please please stop passing the ball ball back to the keeper so much. Teams have sussed us now and they just press us so we end up lumping it to them anyway.
Hopefully Ryan will be well enough to be able to play next Tuesday.
The short passing in and around the box was awful in the 1st half. I get it is to draw our opponents out, so we can get behind them but often we end up panicking and either knocking it out for a throwing or straight back to the opposition.
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Ryan on the bench?
Indeed. Lucky to still be in the tie after slightly baffling team selection. Poor first half, Gateshead should have wrapped it up then.
We went up a couple of levels once the subs were made to get us closer to our best team and might have nicked a win late on.
Hope Chris Conn Clarke is OK, he had an excellent game today.
CCC was my MoM today
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Byrne
Barrows* Mullarkey (c) Cooper E.Jones
Lundstram Osborne
Jackson Conn-Clarke Colclough
Dinanga
Subs: Brockbank, Roxburgh*, J.Jones, Malone, Pringle, Goodson, Hulme
If Barrows doesn't make it due to concussion protocol, hopefully it'll just be a straight swap for Roxburgh rather than moving the wider team around, with Gould on the bench.
At this point we might as well send Mee back to United if we can, don't really see the reason in having him on the books now (and I'm going to pretend Byron Harrison was a dream).
Out of the bench options I think we'll probably see Jordan at some point, which means I suspect we might see Goodson deployed on the right.
That should be the starting 11 on Tuesday.
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As others have said, we were extremely fortunate to only be a goal in arrears at half time.
Honestly believe that if we go 442 on Tuesday, we'll outscore Gateshead.
Byrne is class.
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Colclough has had a very heavy cold apparently.
Why malarkey is second choice rb is mind boggling.
Conn-Clarke was battered black and blue, received no protection from the ref and has little chance of playing Tuesday.
What position was Malone playing and why
Aside from the first 10 mins the first half was dire.
Improved when Hulme and sniffly Colclough came on.
Believe Mullarkey came off with an injury..
Bennett has torn a hamstring and gone back to parent club.
Poor day all-round but we are in the hat on Monday.
When was the last time a player scored 4 games on the spin?
Well at least I never "wined" about Dinanga. I always suspected there was a decent player in there and happily we're seeing that now!
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I thought if I waited 5 hours before posting I might be a bit less angry than I was at the end of that debacle.
We seemed to have no cogent game plan, conceded possession way too easily, and were generally sloppy
Malone was a total waste of space. James Jones needs to play alongside an experienced central defender - and that man is NOT Cooper, who had an appalling game. Midfield ? Was there one ? Osborne continually lost possession.
Why didn't Jackson start with no wide man in the squad ? He must have been dreading being dragged into the mess that was our performance.
We won at Gateshead three weeks ago for the first time in 20 years, but on what I suffered through this afternoon, it could be another 20 years before we do it again. I seriously doubt we'll be in the 1st round, and Gateshead will probably face Sunderland away instead of us (and discover thousands of new "supporters" when they do).
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If it's any consolation (and I admit it might not be) Wrexham only drew at Blyth.
We can't defend like that and expect to win games.
(By the way, Sunderland got promoted! :) )
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I thought if I waited 5 hours before posting I might be a bit less angry than I was at the end of that debacle.
We seemed to have no cogent game plan, conceded possession way too easily, and were generally sloppy
Malone was a total waste of space. James Jones needs to play alongside an experienced central defender - and that man is NOT Cooper, who had an appalling game. Midfield ? Was there one ? Osborne continually lost possession.
Why didn't Jackson start with no wide man in the squad ? He must have been dreading being dragged into the mess that was our performance.
We won at Gateshead three weeks ago for the first time in 20 years, but on what I suffered through this afternoon, it could be another 20 years before we do it again. I seriously doubt we'll be in the 1st round, and Gateshead will probably face Sunderland away instead of us (and discover thousands of new "supporters" when they do).
All correct.
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When was the last time a player scored 4 games on the spin?
I’m guessing it might be Elliott Durrell who scored in five consecutive games either side of the first Covid lockdown.
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Surely we have anyone in the team that can do a shift at RB instead of Toby. We need him back in central defence, he’s our best defender. JJ doesn’t seem to be the player he once was and Cooper is miles off it, even more so today. Looking at the stats, the best central defence has been Baines with Toby. We have shipped goals for fun since his injury. Hopefully Barrows back and E.Jones looking a better player since he was here last time, can give us a solid back four. With Elliott and Luds dictating play, then CCC (who was my MOTM today), Ryan and Dinanga playing off Jordan… We have a solid team that can gel. I think the team need to believe in themselves and show some heart and desire to win first and second balls, get behind eachother and get us through to the next round!
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Hear hear. We can still win this. Four games unbeaten now. As long as we learn from our mistakes (and to be fair we were better second half) we have every chance. Salty Alty!
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The main plus was that we can play so below par and still have another bite at the cherry, if Gatesheads finishing matched their approach play they’d have had about 5/6 yesterday. I thought we were totally overran in the middle of the park for much of it and far too easy to play through-the return of Marriot can’t come soon enough. Optimism for Tuesday of course that we’ve already won there the other week and the possibility that both Colclough and Barrows could return and we’d struggle to play worse.
I had hospitality for a treat with my dad, chicken katsu curry was v good and generous with the grog before kick off too. Randomly Viv Anderson was in there with what looked like a load of his family as well. Can recommend if others are contemplating it for future matches. Disappointed though that so many regulars seemingly won’t dip their hand into their pocket for a cup tie, about 400 down that on standard Saturday home league games thus far.
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The counter argument to the 'won't play much worse' is we were poor at their place last year and proceeded to get even worse in the home replay.
Attendance was definitely disappointing - thought we'd get up towards 1,800.
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Colclough has had a very heavy cold apparently.
Why malarkey is second choice rb is mind boggling.
Conn-Clarke was battered black and blue, received no protection from the ref and has little chance of playing Tuesday.
What position was Malone playing and why
Aside from the first 10 mins the first half was dire.
Improved when Hulme and sniffly Colclough came on.
Believe Mullarkey came off with an injury..
Bennett has torn a hamstring and gone back to parent club.
Poor day all-round but we are in the hat on Monday.
When was the last time a player scored 4 games on the spin?
Well at least I never "wined" about Dinanga. I always suspected there was a decent player in there and happily we're seeing that now!
Notwithstanding his recent welcome upturn in form, Dinanga is still failing to convert extremely presentable goalscoring chances when he finds himself one-on-one with the goalkeeper.
We witnessed another example in the first half yesterday, following on from those two excellent opportunities against Dorking and those two occasions when his shot struck the crossbar after he had been put clean through on goal at Boreham Wood and Notts County respectively.
He simply has to start capitalising on such moments.
Having said all that, credit to him for that splendid instinctive finish yesterday afternoon. It appears that the less time he has to think about things, the greater the prospect of the ball hitting the back of the net becomes.
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That trait puts one in mind of Damien Reeves...
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Having watched Salah yesterday; even one of the PL greatest talents took 2 attempts to score a 1 v 1.
Marcus' finishing is frustrating, but he's scored 4 in 4 starts now. That's a record we've not had in a long time from a striker - even with our drop to NPL football. He assist for Con Clarke was superb.
He may not be the answer; but he's the best option we've had in a long times at this level.
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I think the same is true of most strikers at this level (Tom Peers for one); they're great instinctively but lack overall composure.
Marcus does a good job of holding the ball up, and in that sense it's not a surprise that the forwards behind him have all started firing too.