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Title: FCUM match thread
Post by: Mrs Warbouys on July 10, 2023, 10:05:42 AM
Gaming being streamed for those that can’t make it

https://play.spiideo.com/games/38c5eea5-eefd-430f-a917-6fd6ad9bba43?fbclid=IwAR0plzqNPTmjMpOG6Rd_ia1iVzvHdUjlS2l9L6Exb0b7KPcE0NSeRfVE8-4_aem_AUd0gavYi5Bz4Bwm2kS7zTE4dWrbl4lq-LQDwV4yxrjnVgOEOmsthjYRXcGsR4p66Kg
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Steve from Sale on July 10, 2023, 02:29:12 PM
Got it!
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on July 10, 2023, 03:48:20 PM
I'll be going only because I'm getting cold turkey from being denied live games. Think it's really handy they're streaming it as well though.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on July 10, 2023, 04:29:17 PM
Grandchild #15 arriving tomorrow so I'll be rather preoccupied! 😏
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: swindellsworth on July 10, 2023, 05:36:34 PM
Congrats mate , hope all goes well 🤞
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on July 10, 2023, 07:12:42 PM
Congrats mate , hope all goes well 🤞

Thanks mate. 👍 I'm sure it will be fine. It's her third plus Mrs S will be there to supervise the midwives!! 😂

PS. Great Grandson #1 due in early October! (so we may miss the FA Cup 4thQ game too) .
Told them lots of times to try to arrange births in the off season! So far, only two have managed it! 😊😊
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: swindellsworth on July 10, 2023, 08:07:59 PM
Top man. Don't forget all their birthdays 🤔😀
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on July 10, 2023, 08:28:09 PM
We have got the stream, looking fwd to watching the new team..
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 11, 2023, 07:40:18 PM
is it kicking off a bit late? 7.40 and still warming up
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 11, 2023, 07:45:49 PM
8.00 kick off
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 11, 2023, 07:47:30 PM
coach broke down on the A56?
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 11, 2023, 07:51:15 PM
Started 7.50
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 11, 2023, 07:52:27 PM
No commentary on the live stream 🤬
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 11, 2023, 08:04:25 PM
No commentary on the live stream 🤬

have you clicked on the speaker bottom left?
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 11, 2023, 08:19:34 PM
F*** me how embarrassing is this? Alty players are still on the beach.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: AltyNotFaulty on July 11, 2023, 08:23:44 PM
Too many poor displays so far… there’s a let’s just turn up and play displays!

Olly & Sam at the back were poor and midfield were headless chickens at times.

Embarrassing score line.

Stream is good, glad I didn’t go! 💩
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on July 11, 2023, 08:24:21 PM
Funniest comment re. Byrne from the commentator, "He's not the first choice to be fair."  It seems that anybody other than Parky can see that he ain't a first teamer!
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: altyusa on July 11, 2023, 08:25:08 PM
I know it is only preseason but…….crikey!
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 11, 2023, 08:27:58 PM
FCUM defence really well organised. give the impression of being a stable team.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 11, 2023, 08:36:59 PM
No commentary on the live stream 🤬

have you clicked on the speaker bottom left?

Got it now.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on July 11, 2023, 08:39:20 PM
To put things into perspective, it's fair to say that very few of that starting 11 will be anywhere near the first team come the opening game.
For anyone not at Lancaster on Saturday, I think you'll like the look of right back Boateng when he comes on.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 11, 2023, 08:43:51 PM
The live stream is a good 3 minutes behind the actual game, but I've enabled FlashScores so I've got a 3 minute warning.

I've occasionally wondered whether Nom de Plume and I (and a few others) are over critical of Ollie Byrne. Tonight I know it's not the case, because of even FCUM's commentary team have picked up on his ineptitude :

"The keeper will be thinking he could have done better with at least two of the goals.......none of them have been particularly well struck."

I'm horribly afraid that if we continue with him, all of our opponents will get a goal or more advantage in every game, and having voted in the recent poll for a top half finish, I'm becoming afraid of a relegation struggle.

Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 11, 2023, 08:50:11 PM
I'd have kept Jordan Hulme and played him in goal.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 11, 2023, 08:58:41 PM
Looking on the bright side, perhaps better that the keeper is a complete and utter disaster now, rather than 'still a bit dodgy', so we're forced into the market NOW.

Have we signed the other lad just because he's his cousin?

Picking players up from the Irish/Welsh leagues is always a lottery imo - not sure why so many were so blindingly optimistic, I'm still reserving my judgement for now.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 11, 2023, 09:34:05 PM
at least the players will be nice and fresh for training in the morning.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: oneedham on July 11, 2023, 09:35:36 PM
That was really really poor. Terrible performance.

A keeper is needed. Bynre on all the goals was awful.

Still remain concerned that we only have Joey Jones and Marriott for CM.

Vital position and we have no quality in reserve. If Jones doesn't perform we will be in trouble in that area.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Alty Bri on July 11, 2023, 09:42:42 PM
I think that it's fair to say that we can begin the process of whittling it down a bit now. A number of the trialists were inadequate as were a number of our squad players from last season - no need to mention as it's clear to all.

Both keepers are dreadful and it makes me wonder how Lancaster City managed to get two keepers better than both of ours.

It's too early to tell for sure (it is only preseason after all) but a couple of our newer players from Scotland/Ireland look a little...well, let's hope it's rusty (or we may be in trouble).

I still like the look of Boateng, though tonight much of the play took place on our left side.

Obviously, no Marriott, Angus etc tonight so hoping for improvements moving forward.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: distancetraveller on July 11, 2023, 09:47:45 PM
I’m assuming the likes of Isaac and Kossy were being saved for Stockport on Saturday. Lots of trialist on show.

My big worry is the No1 position.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: oneedham on July 11, 2023, 09:54:31 PM
Just amazes me that Parky is allowing the keeper position to be a shambles.
Can't be pissing around with two bang average keepers in the National League. It will lose us so many points, as it did last season.
The defence have no confidence in him.
Also, we are a CM and winger short. In patches I really liked Swales , second half he disappeared.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Sale Holmfield on July 11, 2023, 10:10:03 PM
I’m assuming the likes of Isaac and Kossy were being saved for Stockport on Saturday. Lots of trialist on show.

My big worry is the No1 position.

I didn't go tonight, but listening to Radio Robins, Isaac had a slight niggle,so wasn't quite ready or wasn't risked. I don't remember hearing anything about Matty Kosylo, but after being out so long, I can understand him not playing two games so close to each other.

Agree on the number 1 - I am staggered we don't appear to have even a potential replacement goalkeeper - not on tonight's game, but on last season.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on July 11, 2023, 10:10:42 PM
Ben Garratt, Jonny Maxstead, Jonathan Mitchell. All are still without clubs and are based in the catchment area...
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 11, 2023, 11:07:47 PM
Just amazes me that Parky is allowing the keeper position to be a shambles.
Can't be pissing around with two bang average keepers in the National League. It will lose us so many points, as it did last season.
The defence have no confidence in him.
Also, we are a CM and winger short. In patches I really liked Swales , second half he disappeared.

I'd settle for a bang average keeper ahead of the two we've got, who aren't even that. Gould was slightly the better of the two tonight, but the goal he conceded was practically a carbon copy of Aaron Bennett's on Saturday.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on July 12, 2023, 07:25:09 AM

Still remain concerned that we only have Joey Jones and Marriott for CM.

Vital position and we have no quality in reserve. If Jones doesn't perform we will be in trouble in that area.

Osborne has been given the number six shirt.
Is that a significant gesture or are shirt numbers meaningless with regards to management intent?
If it's not meaningless it's a bit worrying isn't it?
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Bath Alty on July 12, 2023, 07:42:52 AM
He had 10 last year so I’m not reading too much into it
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 12, 2023, 07:49:06 AM
Ben Garratt, Jonny Maxstead, Jonathan Mitchell. All are still without clubs and are based in the catchment area...

There must still be loads of goalkeepers trialling at Steps 1-2 (and possibly even 3). One that I noticed was ex United graduate Mackenzie Chapman who was released by Bolton this summer and looked too good for the level at Atherton Colls at the end of last season.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 12, 2023, 07:51:29 AM

Still remain concerned that we only have Joey Jones and Marriott for CM.

Vital position and we have no quality in reserve. If Jones doesn't perform we will be in trouble in that area.

Osborne has been given the number six shirt.
Is that a significant gesture or are shirt numbers meaningless with regards to management intent?
If it's not meaningless it's a bit worrying isn't it?

Brockbank had 3 last year so I wouldn't read too much into it.

I suspect he was asked to give the number 10 shirt to Cricky and was told he could have the pick of a few other numbers if he did so.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on July 12, 2023, 07:51:50 AM
He had 10 last year so I’m not reading too much into it
hope you're right, Bath! 😉
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: HashtagAlty on July 12, 2023, 09:19:55 AM

Still remain concerned that we only have Joey Jones and Marriott for CM.

Vital position and we have no quality in reserve. If Jones doesn't perform we will be in trouble in that area.

Osborne has been given the number six shirt.
Is that a significant gesture or are shirt numbers meaningless with regards to management intent?
If it's not meaningless it's a bit worrying isn't it?

Brockbank had 3 last year so I wouldn't read too much into it.

I suspect he was asked to give the number 10 shirt to Cricky and was told he could have the pick of a few other numbers if he did so.

The academy lads got numbers under 20 last year and I don't think started a conference game.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: One Foot in the Grave on July 12, 2023, 10:16:36 AM
Joey Jones has got 22 - probably lucky for him - so I'd expect him to get a start ahead of Osborne.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: rorysgrandad on July 12, 2023, 11:00:42 AM
I've desperately wanted Byrne to succeed but my hope is declining. Whatever made him stand out in Wales is clearly not evident in England.
I went last night and only no 10 and Linney stood out. Mind you, it wasn't difficult to stand out.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Timperley The Best on July 12, 2023, 11:44:38 AM
Do think a quality central midfielder is needed
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on July 12, 2023, 12:26:39 PM
Do think a quality central midfielder is needed

You're not on your own in that opinion.
Plus a new keeper and left wing solution as well.

Couldn't one of our young reserves keepers like Forde (?) be given a shot to see how they perform at least?
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Amsterdam Alty on July 12, 2023, 01:07:12 PM
I've desperately wanted Byrne to succeed but my hope is declining. Whatever made him stand out in Wales is clearly not evident in England.

Ollie himself might know the answer to why he stood out in Wales...

https://twitter.com/oliverbyrne3/status/1660188071243988992?s=20

In his words, you do the maths...
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 12, 2023, 05:47:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aKOKmwEgzE

Taking flannel to new levels.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: GolfRoader on July 12, 2023, 10:45:52 PM
We've had successful pre-seasons in terms of results and then gone 10 games without winning at the beginning of a campaign before. This result and performance means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. Additionally, as Phil says, if there's a new pre season system we're following then I'd prefer that we're taking action to mitigate our customary slow starts to seasons at the expense of a few poor performances in friendlies.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on July 13, 2023, 01:50:21 AM
We've had successful pre-seasons in terms of results and then gone 10 games without winning at the beginning of a campaign before. This result and performance means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. Additionally, as Phil says, if there's a new pre season system we're following then I'd prefer that we're taking action to mitigate our customary slow starts to seasons at the expense of a few poor performances in friendlies.

Very good post.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 13, 2023, 08:43:04 AM
We've had successful pre-seasons in terms of results and then gone 10 games without winning at the beginning of a campaign before. This result and performance means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. Additionally, as Phil says, if there's a new pre season system we're following then I'd prefer that we're taking action to mitigate our customary slow starts to seasons at the expense of a few poor performances in friendlies.

Very good post.

Agreed, yes - better for things to go wrong now so we can do something about them.

That said, I think we're all still very nervous about whether the management team are going to act on certain things that are clearly going to cost us.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Hale Alty on July 13, 2023, 10:08:19 AM
ive long said that preseason results are not an indicator of proper match form, but tuesday looked particularly inept, even from one or two seasoned players we are hoping for big things from. i supposed in a way being full time takes the pressure off the preseason games for building overall fitness, but i would like to see linney slotting away some of his chances asap please.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: MarpleAlty on July 13, 2023, 01:19:42 PM
ive long said that preseason results are not an indicator of proper match form, but tuesday looked particularly inept, even from one or two seasoned players we are hoping for big things from. i supposed in a way being full time takes the pressure off the preseason games for building overall fitness, but i would like to see linney slotting away some of his chances asap please.

For me, Regan Linney needs to be playing up top for 90 minutes every game - I don't think being rotated with Joe Hugill at the end of last season did him - or us - any favours whatsoever.

I distinctly remember it took us a while to start Damian Reeves every game, and it possibly contributed to our relegation (amongst other things) in that first season he was with us.
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Ballers on July 14, 2023, 09:27:14 PM
I never took too much notice of pre seasons in my youth but when I have concentrated I can safely say that when we’ve looked good in pre season we’ve done ok and vice versa

Anyone who says otherwise is talking bollocks or kidding themselves 👍
Title: Re: FCUM match thread
Post by: Saughall Robin on July 15, 2023, 09:55:36 AM
I never took too much notice of pre seasons in my youth but when I have concentrated I can safely say that when we’ve looked good in pre season we’ve done ok and vice versa

Anyone who says otherwise is talking bollocks or kidding themselves 👍

I know what you mean. I don't take much notice of pre season.
Having said that, I can't remember when we had a great one. Perhaps the next few friendlies, if a team more like our strongest is fielded, will give us a better idea?