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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Alty_22 on September 13, 2015, 10:50:42 PM
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, Anthony Griffith has been forced to retire from professional football see main site
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Was he carrying this injury when we signed him,perhaps? None of this pre-signing medical in our league. ??? ???
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Wtf did we sign him for , did we not know about this ?
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Altrincham FC confirms that "Due to an ongoing hip problem, Anthony Griffith has been forced to retire from professional football forthwith. Following advice from the PFA, an agreement has been reached on settling his contract".
, an agreement has been reached on settling his contract"
Jesus wept, if we've had to pay him anything at all it's scandalous. He clearly must've known about this before signing?
Farcical.
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This should mean we get a new midfielder in ?
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This should mean we get a new midfielder in ?
I think we've got enough Midfielders to be honest. I'd rather we signed a right winger or could use whatever money is available to try and keep Parry long term.
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Danny Higginbotham played more than he did!
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Danny Higginbotham played more than he did!
It's sad to read that Anthony has had to retire.. I would have thought this problem would have been picked up during initial discussions when he joined the club..
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Danny Higginbotham played more than he did!
It's sad to read that Anthony has had to retire.. I would have thought this problem would have been picked up during initial discussions when he joined the club..
Maybe it was and maybe he was on a pay-as-you-play contract and maybe we were giving him a chance...
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At least that maybe explains why everyone thought he was crap.
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Danny Higginbotham played more than he did!
It's sad to read that Anthony has had to retire.. I would have thought this problem would have been picked up during initial discussions when he joined the club..
Maybe it was and maybe he was on a pay-as-you-play contract and maybe we were giving him a chance...
He evidently wasn't on a pay-as-you-play deal otherwise we wouldn't have had to settle up with him for the remainder of his contract.
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So we committed to someone with an 'ongoing hip problem' on contractual terms? Christ. Do we not perform medicals?
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So we committed to someone with an 'ongoing hip problem' on contractual terms? Christ. Do we not perform medicals?
Medicals aside, in this situation you'd expect him to do the decent thing and tear up his contract without expecting a penny in return.
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What a disaster; the wording suggests we've had to pay out for this.
Higgy had an existing affinity to the club, therefore I'm certain he just walked away. Can't say that was the case here - I just hope it's not a huge amount.
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shame that an injury has forced him to call time on his career hope he has some skills to fall back onto so he can find work.
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I cannot beleive we were that niaeve (check spelling - Ed). Shocked, stunned and not a little amazed if we were.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSwhOKOKaYw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSwhOKOKaYw)
He turned out to be a woeful signing, on so many levels.
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This must've been known previously.
He only managed 5 minutes despite us only winning 2 and losing 5 games with an underperformance midfield.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnYF95glDyE
Not the first crocked player to be given a contract by Alty?
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This must've been known previously.
He only managed 5 minutes despite us only winning 2 and losing 5 games with an underperformance midfield.
Surely words must have been exchanged about his condition, and he'll have been signed in the hope that he could get back to full fitness / would be able to play at this level despite not being 100%. Obviously neither have happened. For all that the manager wants a small squad, he willingly and knowingly signed an unfit passenger in Griffith.
Hopefully we can now turn our attention to signing a permanent centre half.
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got to love all the assumptions everyone has made, only on the Alty forum would you find this.
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Might I make a suggestion
Apologies if this is boring or doesn't fit in with the Club bashers - Oh you must all be loving this opportunity to invent theories and criticise all and sundry.
Why not enquire of someone who may actually know the facts about this situation? I know it's far less fun than fomenting insurrection but you never know til you try it eh?
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Might I make a suggestion
Apologies if this is boring or doesn't fit in with the Club bashers - Oh you must all be loving this opportunity to invent theories and criticise all and sundry.
Why not enquire of someone who may actually know the facts about this situation? I know it's far less fun than fomenting insurrection but you never know til you try it eh?
Who would answer though?
The club are often pretty cagey with financial information - we still don't know what the terms of the Watmore deal were!
So let's give it a try: Yo, Graham! How much did we have to pay Griffith off?
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Ok someone from club put a statement on main site please.
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Might I make a suggestion
Apologies if this is boring or doesn't fit in with the Club bashers - Oh you must all be loving this opportunity to invent theories and criticise all and sundry.
Why not enquire of someone who may actually know the facts about this situation? I know it's far less fun than fomenting insurrection but you never know til you try it eh?
The club's statement is very telling though; how else is one supposed to feel about it?
No "thanks and good luck in any future career", a withering "the midfielder (not even giving him a name) has played just 5 minutes of football for the club", and the piece de resistance, mentioning the involvement of the union in settling the contract. You can almost hear the teeth gnashing as the statement was written.
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sorry to hear Anthony has been forced to retire,he must be gutted,as for us signing an injured player,did we? or was he not injured at the time of signing and its an old injury that reared its head again?
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Reality check. What medical checks does a small Conference club have the facilities to do? I imagine 7 and 10 miles up the road they can do on site scans and all sorts of monitoring. Can we or other ordinary Conference clubs do this? Doubt it. A lot will be down to the honesty and integrity of the player and the honesty of the former club.
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The way this club looks after it's players (Williams, the left back who's name inexplicitly escapes me at the moment) who get injured in the line of duty is exceptionally good. See also how we released Boshell - we look after players. As is mentioned above the need for PFA to step in suggests the board / management feel we have been let down in this instance.
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Reality check. What medical checks does a small Conference club have the facilities to do? I imagine 7 and 10 miles up the road they can do on site scans and all sorts of monitoring. Can we or other ordinary Conference clubs do this? Doubt it. A lot will be down to the honesty and integrity of the player and the honesty of the former club.
I think that's what's is getting on everyone's beef. Without getting into too much as we don't know the facts, if as mentioned, the lad has willingly signed a contract knowing his fitness is a problem then taken a pay off after playing 300 seconds of football, that's disgusting.
Perhaps some more information will come out in the future
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Maybe we've given him f**k all and the PFA were in consultation with the club so he could get his full insurance pay out
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Maybe we've given him f**k all and the PFA were in consultation with the club so he could get his full insurance pay out
"An agreement has been made on settling his contract"
Come on Pete!
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We won't know without being told, but if the PFA are involved it can only be mediation or checking out his contract and deciding where both parties stand/stood. And an insurance claim may have gone in with PFA from either party
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Reality check. What medical checks does a small Conference club have the facilities to do? I imagine 7 and 10 miles up the road they can do on site scans and all sorts of monitoring. Can we or other ordinary Conference clubs do this? Doubt it. A lot will be down to the honesty and integrity of the player and the honesty of the former club.
We could do the same as the big clubs if we could afford to pay for the various consultants and specialists at our local private hospital........but it goes without saying that clubs at our level cannot afford to do this - The costs involved could be more than a years wages anyway so it would not be worth it (bearing in mind we have not paid millions in transfer fees either)
I imagine that all we can do realistically is look at the injury records, check out players on the treatment table, watch closely in the gym and practice games and place a lot of trust in the honesty of those we recruit
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I hope the payout reflected his 5 minutes of football - I'd have kept him on the bench and training each week for the rest of the year rather than pay him off.
Surely if he cant play then he is in breach of his contract - or does some european ruling dictate we have to make changes to accommodate !
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I hope the payout reflected his 5 minutes of football - I'd have kept him on the bench and training each week for the rest of the year rather than pay him off.
Surely if he cant play then he is in breach of his contract - or does some european ruling dictate we have to make changes to accommodate !
You are presuming too much : read the club statement again which says what is happening / has happened..........everything else is speculation - although maybe some of it comes with some sensible thought behind it....and some doesn't
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Grahame Rowley made the following statement in the programme last night:
"Anthony arrived from Carlisle in the summer but we were not made aware of his ongoing medical investigations into a hip problem.............Unfortunately, following PFA recommendations Anthony has agreed to a severance package which leaves the club a player light but with little money to fund a replacement at present. I, along with our manager Lee, don't want to go crying about the situation but want the supporters to realise the situation this outcome has put us in."
TL:DR? Signed when injured, got paid off.
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In other words; he screwed us!
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What defeats me is how a player can deliberately conceal a condition like this, yet he is now entitled to a payout from the club after being found to be unfit to perform the job he was employed for.
The whole situation is a complete farce in all honesty and it has effectively left us a man down for the season.
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What defeats me is how a player can deliberately conceal a condition like this, yet he is now entitled to a payout from the club after being found to be unfit to perform the job he was employed for.
The whole situation is a complete farce in all honesty and it has effectively left us a man down for the season.
I would have thought that failure to disclose an existing condition would almost certainly render a contract null and void. It certainly would if it was insurance. Seems to me that the conditions of contracts need tightening up.
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Grahame very kindly took some time out of his busy prematch schedule to have a chat with some of us in the bar, there will be a press article on the situation today hopefully and the club don't really want to say much publicly on the situation. I'm sure if anyone approaches Grahame he'll gladly tell you exactly how it is as he did to us. Which is decent of him, saves any speculation. These are my thoughts, not anyone else's it the clubs. The PFA will always back one of their own right or wrong, could we haven't taken it to court and won, probably, was it worth the legal costs and time, probably not, was it worth pissing the players union off, again probably not. The guy should be ashamed of himself, as should the PFA, and any other clubs/parties that were aware of his ongoing problem and failed/forgot to disclose it.
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Yes, he's our pants down I'm afraid.
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Isnt this a bit like the Robinson affair ie. the club not doing it's homework properly? Surely when you get a a player to sign a contract you'd get him to declare whether there were any ongoing medical investigations. If he declared it you wouldn't sign him, if he didn't declare it and it turned out there was you'd invoke the big fat fibber clause and rip up his contract.
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Yes you are right I think the Robinson case what's a bit more unfortunate as you don't expect to sign someone from Accrington who hasn't international clearance I think in the case of griffiths you should always be careful signing anyone with a lack of game time in the previous year or 2
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Sounds like a bit of a sh*tty thing that Griffith's has pulled off here
Bang out of order...
I've spent more time on the pitch than he did . from back in the 60s when I was mascot ffs
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I have to agree with Hale Alty, why weren't proper questions asked? Could leave us screwed for this season now assuming as it sounds we have paid the bloke off. I'd like the club to declare what medical checks we actually do.
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Maybe wait for the press release, that might explain more
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I notice he has had the time to update his Wikipedia page, assuming he maintains it himself and he is actually claiming he made 2 appearances for Altrincham! Obviously the gentle jogs along the touch line at Southport must count as an appearance in his mind.
I was tempted to edit his Alty career details and make reference to his manipulated pay-off but didn't want to give him any ammunition.
One thing that crossed my mind was why the club didn't just tear his contract up and let him consider taking us to court. As Hughesy suggests we would have been on pretty strong ground if we persued him through the courts so it would probably be unlikely he would have taken this action if roles reversed.
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New press release
Altrincham FC confirms that "Due to an ongoing hip being unable to pass a ball more than five f**king yards problem, Anthony Griffith has been forced to retire from professional football forthwith. Following advice from the PFA, an agreement has been reached on settling his contract"
Yep, much clearer now Figgy, see what you mean.
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No matter what checks we might or might not have done, I fear that Griffith has shafted us a bit here.
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No matter what checks we might or might not have done, I fear that Griffith has shafted us a bit here.
this
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Only hope we learn from this and make sure future signings have to declare any injuries , and sign a statement to say so .
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Statement on main website now
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The gap seems to be widening between some peoples view of what is legally right and morally right, when it comes to assessing what is right or wrong.
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Is Griffith on twitter or anything - I'm seething and feel personally aggrieved at what he has pulled off.
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The man is a thieving piece of sh*t.
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The man is a thieving piece of sh*t.
This.
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100% blame with the 'player' what a C**t
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after reading what happened on the main site,it was a dirty and not very honorable thing for Griffith to have done.
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The man is a thieving piece of sh*t.
This is a risk you run with squad players that don't get regular games or cant get into the side.
On the other side of the coin are nice decent blokes like Greg Wilkinson and Kyle Perry, plus to be fair many others we have had down the years.
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Yes Griffith wasn't honest with the club, but a conversation with a few individuals from his previous clubs would have unearthed that he was well past it. The Vale fans knew that he was crocked.
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Yes Griffith wasn't honest with the club, but a conversation with a few individuals from his previous clubs would have unearthed that he was well past it. The Vale fans knew that he was crocked.
Nonetheless, you expect a player to have at least a degree of integrity to their fellow pros.
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As had been said by many, he has had us over.
I would expect Lee is also very disappointed as he must know the lad personally so it's pretty sh*t to do that to a manager who you have a connection with. He thought he could wing it and he couldn't. Probably saw Richmans fitness and went "good God"
The decent thing to do would be to say "sorry lads, thought I could cut it but I can't, not been able to show you what I can do, I can see how hard people work here at every level to get the money in to pay us, I've taken my share of it up to now but wish you every success and it's time for me to do other things, you get someone else in, all the best." Sadly with him being an ex league player there was probably very little chance of that and he has is evidently done a job on us with the help of the PFA.
From "the clubs" side the chairman has been very open with us fans, held his hands up said we trusted him and he let us down and all we can do is learn from it. Now the facts are looked back on I'm sure there have been many conversations of things we wished we had done, all we can do is ensure that we do everything to stop anyone else doing it to us again and I am sure his behaviour will make it very hard for anyone to repeat this. We have signed hundreds of players the same way without a hitch.
I would imagine that the fact he turned up with a second job as a personal trainer, looking fit as a fiddle also helped with the act. I know you can't see what is within (in both body and mind) but 28 is no age for a degenerative condition and working in the fitness industry I reckon that has helped with the hoodwink.
Everyone will be annoyed with it as it's money raised by all of us he has stolen.
Thankfully it looks like nearly everyone (aside from some disgraceful comments on not giving anymore money to the club after this I read on another forum) feels the same on it. Lesson learned and I really hope that's the last football sees of Mr Griffith.
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Well said mate.
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The club has been wasteful by not doing its homework. How hard would it have been to telephone his previous manager to check there weren't any issues with his fitness? What hasn't been explained is why if the degenerative condition dates back to before the contract was signed why the player is then not in breach of his contract for not declaring it. Considering the fans are always been asked to put their hands in their pockets to fund/bail out this that or the other its only reasonable to ask how much this has cost the club. Certainly needs asking at the AGM.
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I completely agree with what everybody has said on here regarding the situation and I think Ecky hit the nail on the head, especially regarding the fact that Sinnott and Griffiths have known each other so long. To be able to do something like that to a man that has trusted you and given you a chance for so long is unthinkable. How he could look anybody in the face after that is beyond me.
I'm surprised that we don't have some kind of clause in our contracts that say something along the lines of, if you have an ongoing medical condition that you don't disclose prior to being signed that is then found out about later on, the contract can be ripped up with no monetary obligation by the club to the player. However, I don't know the entire legality of this or whether players would sign a contract with such a wording, because for example, previous knee ligament damage or such could be used against them. It's certainly something I'll be asking our Chairman about on Saturday, and I urge anybody who has any questions or anything constructive to say on the matter to talk to him. He's a very approachable man, and more than happy to discuss things with you.
As an aside, my memory might be playing tricks on me here, but weren't we unable to sign Stevie Connors on a permanent basis due to ongoing legal problems with his then club (Cambridge Utd?) over the fact he had, allegedly, not disclosed information about a long-term knee injury? I would have thought that this may have stuck in the clubs mind in signings after that with it not being in the too distant past?
It's a f**king awful thing for a player to do and it leaves us more in the sh*t, especially with our current injury record, but whats been done has been done and as Mr Rowley says, the club can just hold their hands up and admit they got this one wrong, so onwards and upwards. The last thing we need at a time like this is fractions within the club (we have enough of those because of people not liking the manager, his family, etc) and we'll just have to pull together and support the boys on the field.
Come on alty!
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Is Griffith on twitter or anything - I'm seething and feel personally aggrieved at what he has pulled off.
No idea mate...... https://twitter.com/agriffithjnr (https://twitter.com/agriffithjnr)
That is the wrong man, he plays for Mickleover Sports.
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We move onwards, the club has learned a lesson in trust (which it shouldn't have had to), and we'll be stronger for the experience.
I suspect the bookies have already suspended betting on the Knobsock Of The Season Award 2015-16.
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The club has been wasteful by not doing its homework. How hard would it have been to telephone his previous manager to check there weren't any issues with his fitness? What hasn't been explained is why if the degenerative condition dates back to before the contract was signed why the player is then not in breach of his contract for not declaring it. Considering the fans are always been asked to put their hands in their pockets to fund/bail out this that or the other its only reasonable to ask how much this has cost the club. Certainly needs asking at the AGM.
Since GR has been a Director / Chairman then the word "fund" ( help fund) may be apprpriate. However to say "bail out" is incorrect and unfair
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The time the supporters trust was pressurised into selling off its shares to raise money for the club looked very much like a bail out to me.
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Yes Griffith wasn't honest with the club, but a conversation with a few individuals from his previous clubs would have unearthed that he was well past it. The Vale fans knew that he was crocked.
Exactly.
On hearing that we had signed Griffith, a friend asked a Carlisle United supporter about him and was geeted with the response: "Why on earth have you signed him? He's finished."
Two minutes of research via the likes of Wikipedia or soccerbase.com would have revealed just how few appearances Griffith had made during the 2014/15 season and should surely have raised immediate concerns.
Yes, we have been hoodwinked here by a dishonourable man but the management's/board's naivety and negligence have opened the door to a nice severance payment for him.
So, for the second season in succession, we have effectively handicapped ourselves by squandering money and a vital squad place on an individual who hadn't played much football in recent times and who will hardly contribute anything of worth to our cause.
At least Gillespie did stick it out until the bitter end last season, albeit as a spectator for the majority of it.
Griffith can just sit at home on Saturday afternoons and watch the DVD of Pumping Iron that he's bought from Amazon at Alty's expense.
What a shyster!
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I think people need a reality check here. Yes, maybe the club in hindsight could had done more. However, when our limited resources are stretched with CSH, looking at other ground improvements and keeping a competitive squad in this league, could we really do much else except take the word of a 'professional' footballer. Professional is a key word there, as he has been anything but professional. Also remember that 99% of the players we've signed in the 20 years I've been watching are decent, honest people. Why would the club think any different with him?
Personally, I was happy we signed him as I thought if he had the fitness would be the sort of player we needed, getting stuck in and take the game by the scruff of the neck. Instead, he has left us with it being even more critical we get a decent cup run this season.
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The reality check is that when you haven't got much money to spend you are doubly careful how you spend it.
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http://www.halecountryclub.co.uk/about/personal-trainers/#gk-popup-personal-trainer-24
Check out the third one down, I think this is our man...... A personal trainer in Alty. He puts injury prevention on his list of skills maybe deceit and lying would be more truthful.
The man has no morals end of, if you are not fit to do a job a decent man just leaves and tears his contract up.
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"Having just left playing professional football in league 2 due to injury"
Even just googling him might have thrown up this rather revealing fact!
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http://www.halecountryclub.co.uk/about/personal-trainers/#gk-popup-personal-trainer-24
Check out the third one down, I think this is our man...... A personal trainer in Alty. He puts injury prevention on his list of skills maybe deceit and lying would be more truthful.
The man has no morals end of, if you are not fit to do a job a decent man just leaves and tears his contract up.
There's a few PTs on that list I wouldn't mind letting loose on my tight groin!
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The reality check is that when you haven't got much money to spend you are doubly careful how you spend it.
fully agree
It seems that even the most basic checks weren't done. Someone needs to be held accountable for this. Is this the manager signing his friends without making the necessary checks? His silence is interesting
Also what we doing handing out contracts to players before we even seen them play a game, particularly when they only played a couple of games in the last few years. Bowerman was Trailist A for most of pre-season, so why wasn't Griffiths Trailist B ?
And why the hell was he brought on against Tranmere to give a goal away? We knew he wasn't up to it by then
Serious questions need to be asked here
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"Having just left playing professional football in league 2 due to injury"
Even just googling him might have thrown up this rather revealing fact!
im afraid that is correct yes the man is a T**t but we have been extremely naive
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The reality check is that when you haven't got much money to spend you are doubly careful how you spend it.
fully agree
It seems that even the most basic checks weren't done. Someone needs to be held accountable for this. Is this the manager signing his friends without making the necessary checks? His silence is interesting
Also what we doing handing out contracts to players before we even seen them play a game, particularly when they only played a couple of games in the last few years. Bowerman was Trailist A for most of pre-season, so why wasn't Griffiths Trailist B ?
And why the hell was he brought on against Tranmere to give a goal away? We knew he wasn't up to it by then
Serious questions need to be asked here
You should of asked your serious questions on Tuesday night Jamie, when the chairman came over and took the time to Explain what the situation was?
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I fully understand what the situation is, and the chairman has explained everything he can.
That doesn't however mean it's acceptable situation.
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Look who started for Droylsden FC today:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CP1RyFkWcAAhbyx?format=pjpg&name=large)
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Look who started for Droylsden FC today:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CP1RyFkWcAAhbyx?format=pjpg&name=large)
Well, it's worth the club taking that one further!
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Well the Anthony Griffith who started today certainly hasn't been included on any of the team sheets previously this season... Could it be our friend by any chance, or just a massive coincidence??
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Same bloke ?If so won't he have to forefit his pay off?
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See the main site - it appears to be the Anthony Griffith.
A bit more mileage in this story I reckon.
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Given the number of players who have turned out for Droylsden in the last couple of seasons, I suppose there was always a high probability of someone called Anthony Griffith turning out for them!
Seriously though, if this is true, that is despicable. Did he play the full 90 minutes with his degenerative condition? If so, can we all have the name of his doctor?
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If it is being reported as a move from Altrincham by Evostik, then I hope he gets what is coming to him and we have some funding available for a replacement.
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I've heard of players giving up the full time game on medical advice and then moving into semi-pro. Presumably as their insurers wouldn't cover them if they continued as full-time even if a club would have them. Assuming he was paid more than his expenses for playing yesterday this is totally different. He does have a brass neck however and maybe he's daring us to take him to Court? Either way more than a tad embarrassing for the PFA, if they take no action (like paying us what we paid Griffiths and recovering it from him) their rep will be mud in our division.
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Why doesn't he sneak in the CSH and nick the cones they use for the kids football as well?
God I wish I was loaded, I'd be giving the club a blank cheque to take this shyster to court. He has no shame.
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this is a disgrace,if he is fit enough to turn out for another team then he should have to return his payout.Disgusted
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This T**t was probably born under the same stone as Frank Sinclair and a suitable description for this "Oxygen thief" should be "He is a Melt"
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Surley he's not got a leg to stand on (let alone run on) should this be true.
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Does he work in a local gym ?
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seems an Anthony Griffith junior has played for droylsden before....is this a shocking case of nepotism????
will watch the main site for more on this story...not even as if he had to train full time with us....the evostick site indeed has an Anthony Griffiths transferring from alty to the bloods so why didn't we get any money for him?? ;D ;D
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I suppose technically he was out of contract.
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We should be on to the pfa tomorrow, this is ridiculous
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Voting for knobsock of the year has now closed!
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We should be on to the pfa tomorrow, this is ridiculous
we should be on the phone to the police not the pfa, clearly he has waited for his cheque to clear before signing for someone else
Can't help think another f**k up here regarding the pay off, did we enforce any conditions?
I have written to Hale Country Club highlighting what kind of a guy they employing. I would encourage all Alty fans to do the same
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Well well well.
Mr. Griffiths may be smarter than folk give him credit for. That doesn't stop him being a cockend.
Anybody got a logon to the Bloods forum?
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We should be on to the pfa tomorrow, this is ridiculous
we should be on the phone to the police not the pfa, clearly he has waited for his cheque to clear before signing for someone else
Can't help think another f**k up here regarding the pay off, did we enforce any conditions?
I have written to Hale Country Club highlighting what kind of a guy they employing. I would encourage all Alty fans to do the same
I had a draft Twitter message to them but decided against sending it as I couldn't be arsed with the bellend suing me. They'll no doubt know by now the type of person he is.
What an utter shambles. Gets his contract paid off playing 3 minutes after consulting with the PFA and taking doctors orders on retiring, then signs for Droylsden. It stinks
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anyone else find it weird that he went straight into the first 11 to play an fa cup game, i didnt think he was good enough, even for droysden
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The blokes a chancer. He will turn out for anyone for a few quid...
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just a thought, but as he turned out for the Bloods yesterday after getting a payout from us, has he had a payout from other clubs prior to signing for us? That could make a very lucrative career for a piss stick like him.
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FA cup draw pitches us against Droylsden. Can't fekking await
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Courtcase !!!
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Surely we'd win this case now that he's still playing. The bloke has taken the pis* out of a part time club. I need to bite my tongue in the gym.
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Surely we'd win this case now that he's still playing. The bloke has taken the pis* out of a part time club. I need to bite my tongue in the gym.
i wouldnt bite my tongue, i would give it him with both barrels. Piss taking T%^T
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The blokes a chancer. He will turn out for anyone for a few quid...
nice to Mr Sinnott is such a good judge of character
Only the most basic managerial requirement
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The blokes a chancer. He will turn out for anyone for a few quid...
nice to Mr Sinnott is such a good judge of character
Only the most basic managerial requirement
Oh, of course Jamie, this is all Lee Sinnotts fault. How stupid of us all to think that, despite the fact we've had hundreds of players that have signed for us on the same basis and have been honourable, that this wasn't Sinnotts fault. He should have known, what a disgrace.
Being a judge of character isn't a managerial requirement. Getting the best of your staff is. Unfortunately Anthony Griffith too that opportunity away from anybody.
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The blokes a chancer. He will turn out for anyone for a few quid...
nice to Mr Sinnott is such a good judge of character
Only the most basic managerial requirement
Oh, of course Jamie, this is all Lee Sinnotts fault. How stupid of us all to think that, despite the fact we've had hundreds of players that have signed for us on the same basis and have been honourable, that this wasn't Sinnotts fault. He should have known, what a disgrace.
Being a judge of character isn't a managerial requirement. Getting the best of your staff is. Unfortunately Anthony Griffith too that opportunity away from anybody.
of course it's Sinnotts fault, he signed him because he was his mate. Why was there no trail period like Bowerman - that was negligible at best
Jobs for his family is one thing but jobs for his mates has blown up in our faces - and he should be held accountable for it
It's a farce
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The blokes a chancer. He will turn out for anyone for a few quid...
nice to Mr Sinnott is such a good judge of character
Only the most basic managerial requirement
Oh, of course Jamie, this is all Lee Sinnotts fault. How stupid of us all to think that, despite the fact we've had hundreds of players that have signed for us on the same basis and have been honourable, that this wasn't Sinnotts fault. He should have known, what a disgrace.
Being a judge of character isn't a managerial requirement. Getting the best of your staff is. Unfortunately Anthony Griffith too that opportunity away from anybody.
of course it's Sinnotts fault, he signed him because he was his mate. Why was there no trail period like Bowerman - that was negligible at best
Jobs for his family is one thing but jobs for his mates has blown up in our faces - and he should be held accountable for it
It's a farce
The whole situation is a farce, but everything you have said before that is nonsensical.
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The reason there was a trial period for Bowerman was that he was still under contract to Accrington until 31 July, and therefore COULD NOT appear for us other than as A TRIALLIST
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The reason there was a trial period for Bowerman was that he was still under contract to Accrington until 31 July, and therefore COULD NOT appear for us other than as A TRIALLIST
great, so let's just hand out contracts willy nilly to anyone then
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We should have a whip round to take out a contract on Griffith ! Anyone know a few handy lads ?
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We should have a whip round to take out a contract on Griffith ! Anyone know a few handy lads ?
I wouldnt mind betting hes fairly handy himself
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The reason there was a trial period for Bowerman was that he was still under contract to Accrington until 31 July, and therefore COULD NOT appear for us other than as A TRIALLIST
great, so let's just hand out contracts willy nilly to anyone then
We haven't' done that though have we.
A mistake, possibly a series of errors, were made signing this sod. Nobody and no process is perfect. In no way can that be "handing out contracts willy nilly". Have we ever been in a position to do that this century? No.
Would you like somebody from the club to be crucified on the Golf Road to atone for their error?
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We should have a whip round to take out a contract on Griffith ! Anyone know a few handy lads ?
He'd renege on that contract too, and get away!
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I suppose technically he was out of contract.
Can't see that makes a difference if he busted out of our contract by saying he was unable to play because of his injury.
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The reason there was a trial period for Bowerman was that he was still under contract to Accrington until 31 July, and therefore COULD NOT appear for us other than as A TRIALLIST
great, so let's just hand out contracts willy nilly to anyone then
We haven't' done that though have we.
A mistake, possibly a series of errors, were made signing this sod. Nobody and no process is perfect. In no way can that be "handing out contracts willy nilly". Have we ever been in a position to do that this century? No.
Would you like somebody from the club to be crucified on the Golf Road to atone for their error?
Yes, the manager. Then a new manager will be brought in to turn the club around from doing well to doing really well. The usual suspects will give the new manager a few games (optimistically) before starting the whole cycle of dismissiveness again until a similar juncture is met.
It's pretty much trolling on here on every thread these days.
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The reason there was a trial period for Bowerman was that he was still under contract to Accrington until 31 July, and therefore COULD NOT appear for us other than as A TRIALLIST
great, so let's just hand out contracts willy nilly to anyone then
We haven't' done that though have we.
A mistake, possibly a series of errors, were made signing this sod. Nobody and no process is perfect. In no way can that be "handing out contracts willy nilly". Have we ever been in a position to do that this century? No.
Would you like somebody from the club to be crucified on the Golf Road to atone for their error?
Yes, the manager. Then a new manager will be brought in to turn the club around from doing well to doing really well. The usual suspects will give the new manager a few games (optimistically) before starting the whole cycle of dismissiveness again until a similar juncture is met.
It's pretty much trolling on here on every thread these days.
Sadly so.
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The manager has to take a lot of the blame in the griffiths debacle however I wouldn't sack him over it
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Droylsden are scheduled to be at home to Rushe/Northwich Victoria on Tuesday evening:
http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-1606261 (http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-1606261)
Should we all jump on a tram and head off to The Butchers Arms in order to greet our five-minute hero with a rousing chorus of "Hip hip hooray!" as he limps out onto the pitch?
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The manager has to take a lot of the blame in the griffiths debacle however I wouldn't sack him over it
100% spot on Jimmy
At last someone that knows what their on about
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The manager has to take a lot of the blame in the griffiths debacle however I wouldn't sack him over it
100% spot on Jimmy
At last someone that knows what their on about
Sorry - the Manager makes recommendations to the Board who sign the contract, so if you want to point the finger that's where it should be directed. That would be very wrong imho. The point everyone at the club has been making is that at our level trust is a much more common and necessary currency than in the professional game. That extends to keeping fit, turning up for training or being honest about your medical history. LS has been let down by someone he's worked with before, he must be feeling more gutted than anyone. I don't think 'blame' should be apportioned, rather we'll have to accept that from now on there''ll be less £ for new players wages as some cash will need to be diverted into paying for formal medical assessments.
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The manager has to take a lot of the blame in the griffiths debacle however I wouldn't sack him over it
100% spot on Jimmy
At last someone that knows what their on about
Sorry - the Manager makes recommendations to the Board who sign the contract, so if you want to point the finger that's where it should be directed. That would be very wrong imho. The point everyone at the club has been making is that at our level trust is a much more common and necessary currency than in the professional game. That extends to keeping fit, turning up for training or being honest about your medical history. LS has been let down by someone he's worked with before, he must be feeling more gutted than anyone. I don't think 'blame' should be apportioned, rather we'll have to accept that from now on there''ll be less £ for new players wages as some cash will need to be diverted into paying for formal medical assessments.
IMHO blame can only be apportioned one way; Griffith himself.
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Recently we have signed Griffiths okeefe Gillespie and bowerman all of whom have a next to no football the previous year that to me is a problem regardless of what Griffiths has done to be fair we could've got lucky with bowerman but I'm not convinced
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Who ever the blame lays with , we cant change anything now ,so no point in going on about it .
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Droylsden are scheduled to be at home to Rushe/Northwich Victoria on Tuesday evening:
http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-1606261 (http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-1606261)
Should we all jump on a tram and head off to The Butchers Arms in order to greet our five-minute hero with a rousing chorus of "Hip hip hooray!" as he limps out onto the pitch?
Maybe Tim Deasy could have a word with one or two of his former Northwich team mates.......
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The situation reminds me of when Mike Marsh was playing for Kidderminster 15 years ago. He'd had an insurance payout when injured playing league football but was still ok to play semi-professional. Griffiths stated he was retiring from professional football (albeit semi-pro). Are Droylsden now playing in a division that isn't classed as professional so he can get away with it?
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FA cup draw pitches us against Droylsden. Can't fekking await
Droylsden have been drawn at home to Gainsborough Trinity in the FA Cup Third Qualifying Round.
A reunion isn't out of the question then...
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Recently we have signed Griffiths okeefe Gillespie and bowerman all of whom have a next to no football the previous year that to me is a problem regardless of what Griffiths has done to be fair we could've got lucky with bowerman but I'm not convinced
Very true Jimmy, the signing of O'Keefe is even worse - we should be watching players before jumping in with contract offers, of course most of the players we sign haven't played for such a long time thats not possible
hmmmm ??????
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Recently we have signed Griffiths okeefe Gillespie and bowerman all of whom have a next to no football the previous year that to me is a problem regardless of what Griffiths has done to be fair we could've got lucky with bowerman but I'm not convinced
Very true Jimmy, the signing of O'Keefe is even worse - we should be watching players before jumping in with contract offers, of course most of the players we sign haven't played for such a long time thats not possible
hmmmm ??????
...and carry the risk of others signing them up whilst we sit on our hands. hmmmm?
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My point was sign players who played games last season we did that with deasey and rankine
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The manager has to take a lot of the blame in the griffiths debacle however I wouldn't sack him over it
100% spot on Jimmy
At last someone that knows what their on about
Sorry - the Manager makes recommendations to the Board who sign the contract, so if you want to point the finger that's where it should be directed. That would be very wrong imho. The point everyone at the club has been making is that at our level trust is a much more common and necessary currency than in the professional game. That extends to keeping fit, turning up for training or being honest about your medical history. LS has been let down by someone he's worked with before, he must be feeling more gutted than anyone. I don't think 'blame' should be apportioned, rather we'll have to accept that from now on there''ll be less £ for new players' wages as some cash will need to be diverted into paying for formal medical assessments.
IMHO blame can only be apportioned one way; Griffith himself.
If you want to accuse anyone at the club of anything then the charge should be of being naïve. That doesn't bring with it any notion of blame. If the level of player with whom we are now dealing involves more dishonesty than we are accustomed to then perhaps the football definition of 'professional' (as in 'professional foul', aka cheating) is indeed as far from the dictionary definition (a 'professional job' is one done competently and to high standards of workmanship) as I for one have long believed it to be. The two points highlighted above are absolutely right.
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Recently we have signed Griffiths okeefe Gillespie and bowerman all of whom have a next to no football the previous year that to me is a problem regardless of what Griffiths has done to be fair we could've got lucky with bowerman but I'm not convinced
Very true Jimmy, the signing of O'Keefe is even worse - we should be watching players before jumping in with contract offers, of course most of the players we sign haven't played for such a long time thats not possible
hmmmm ??????
...and carry the risk of others signing them up whilst we sit on our hands. hmmmm?
Yep, no problem with that whatsoever. Your response here is a bit naive.
Which of our recent pre season signings might we have missed out on and which are you glad you signed straight away?
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Droylsden are scheduled to be at home to Rushe/Northwich Victoria on Tuesday evening:
http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-1606261 (http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-1606261)
Should we all jump on a tram and head off to The Butchers Arms in order to greet our five-minute hero with a rousing chorus of "Hip hip hooray!" as he limps out onto the pitch?
Alas, no sign of Mr Griffith on tonight's team sheet. Vics won 6-1.
I did notice that Droylsden's keeper is Craig Ellison. I am sure he is the man who had his Stalybridge career ended by that memorable pair of 5-0 defeats over Christmas 2013.
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Droylsden are scheduled to be at home to Rushe/Northwich Victoria on Tuesday evening:
http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-1606261 (http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-1606261)
Should we all jump on a tram and head off to The Butchers Arms in order to greet our five-minute hero with a rousing chorus of "Hip hip hooray!" as he limps out onto the pitch?
Alas, no sign of Mr Griffith on tonight's team sheet. Vics won 6-1.
I did notice that Droylsden's keeper is Craig Ellison. I am sure he is the man who had his Stalybridge career ended by that memorable pair of 5-0 defeats over Christmas 2013.
Maybe someone's had a word!
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Maybe he is injured. ;)
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Droylsden are scheduled to be at home to Rushe/Northwich Victoria on Tuesday evening:
http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-1606261 (http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/match-info/match-centre/1-1606261)
Should we all jump on a tram and head off to The Butchers Arms in order to greet our five-minute hero with a rousing chorus of "Hip hip hooray!" as he limps out onto the pitch?
Alas, no sign of Mr Griffith on tonight's team sheet. Vics won 6-1.
I did notice that Droylsden's keeper is Craig Ellison. I am sure he is the man who had his Stalybridge career ended by that memorable pair of 5-0 defeats over Christmas 2013.
Correct.
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Funnily enough I found and started playing FM12 the other day. Tonight I was offered Griffith, but he wanted too much money, but I did get Jordan Sinnot for £55/week!
I also had the line "Injury caused by Frank Sinclair" lat week!
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Maybe he is injured. ;)
Maybe he's retired with a severance package.
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Also related to a convicted match fixer Delroy Facey, must run in the family!
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On his personal training CV at the gym it has ' injury prevention' I wonder if playing on with an apparent long lasting hip injury is ' injury prevention'?!
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On his personal training CV at the gym it has ' injury prevention' I wonder if playing on with an apparent long lasting hip injury is ' injury prevention'?!
Does it say anything about him being a Chancer.
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On his personal training CV at the gym it has ' injury prevention' I wonder if playing on with an apparent long lasting hip injury is ' injury prevention'?!
Does it say anything about him being a Chancer.
or being a proper lady garden?
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How is this for an example?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34869226
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How is this for an example?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34869226
Cap doffed in his direction.
Perhaps he felt he could afford to do this. Griffiths hasn't the class, and probably not the money. The git.
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I think the two situations whilst similar are different. It might appear to an uninterested party that Griffiths signed his contract with the knowledge his medical condition would mean he couldn't play. This cannot be proved of course. Paddy Kenny signed his contract in good faith, but as a result of a deterioration in his fitness asked for his contract to be cancelled. Given what we now know of the two gents I think Kenny, faced with Griffiths condition, wouldn't have asked us for a contract in the first place.