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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: timbo13 on February 02, 2011, 12:52:39 PM
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It looks very like Alsager have imploded. The management team and the first team squad have all walked and they had to scrape together a team last night only to get tubbed 3:0.
Here's hoping we don't repeat last round and instead give these new signings and some of the youth team a run out. If we're stuck with playing in the CSC (and we are unless Alsager fold over the next seven days) we might as well rest the first team squad as much as possible.
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We can win this one by a cricket score
How long you been watching Alty... Please don't be famous last words.... - Only Lancaster and Emley come to mind for that sort of outing :)
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It looks very like Alsager have imploded. The management team and the first team squad have all walked and they had to scrape together a team last night only to get tubbed 3:0.
Here's hoping we don't repeat last round and instead give these new signings and some of the youth team a run out. If we're stuck with playing in the CSC (and we are unless Alsager fold over the next seven days) we might as well rest the first team squad as much as possible.
Asmuch as we need to give players a rest, I'd like to hope we still take it seriously enough to ensure we get to the final
However having seen videos of alsager - I feel our youth team would be good enough to record a result
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It looks very like Alsager have imploded. The management team and the first team squad have all walked and they had to scrape together a team last night only to get tubbed 3:0.
Here's hoping we don't repeat last round and instead give these new signings and some of the youth team a run out. If we're stuck with playing in the CSC (and we are unless Alsager fold over the next seven days) we might as well rest the first team squad as much as possible.
Asmuch as we need to give players a rest, I'd like to hope we still take it seriously enough to ensure we get to the final
However having seen videos of alsager - I feel our youth team would be good enough to record a result
I fear our youth team may be a bit on the rusty side having not played since last October. ;)
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It looks very like Alsager have imploded. The management team and the first team squad have all walked and they had to scrape together a team last night only to get tubbed 3:0.
Here's hoping we don't repeat last round and instead give these new signings and some of the youth team a run out. If we're stuck with playing in the CSC (and we are unless Alsager fold over the next seven days) we might as well rest the first team squad as much as possible.
Asmuch as we need to give players a rest, I'd like to hope we still take it seriously enough to ensure we get to the final
However having seen videos of alsager - I feel our youth team would be good enough to record a result
I fear our youth team may be a bit on the rusty side having not played since last October. ;)
Even then I feel they could beat alsager town
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I'd best declare an interest here since my son is on the youth team.
The youth teamers might not have played together since 21st November (an NWYA Open Cup game against Nantwich) but quite a few of them will have played for other teams in the interim. I know quite a few of them play in Saturday leagues too, or play representative football for their schools or for County FA teams. Plus of course George organises training sessions, usually twice a week.
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Where is the final being held this year?
I really hope it isn't at Witton again, like it has been in our previous two finals!
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it at Moss Lane last year?
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I would be stunned if it wasn't played at Witton. Which other neutral venue would be more suitable?
(Assuming it's Alty v Vics)
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I would be stunned if it wasn't played at Witton. Which other neutral venue would be more suitable?
They could play it at OT at half time of the Man U v Crawley game and give 10% of the gate money to the winners. :D
I hope its held at Nantwich, (Not as far to travel from Shrewsbury)
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I would be stunned if it wasn't played at Witton. Which other neutral venue would be more suitable?
(Assuming it's Alty v Vics)
I'd be surprised also, I just wish it wasn't as I hate going out to the middle of nowhere (although the ground is not that bad, to be fair).
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I would be stunned if it wasn't played at Witton. Which other neutral venue would be more suitable?
(Assuming it's Alty v Vics)
I'd be surprised also, I just wish it wasn't as I hate going out to the middle of nowhere (although the ground is not that bad, to be fair).
Yeah, I see your point.
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Alsager will put out a team and we should use it as an opportunity to put some potential youth players through a competitive game. This is the CSC and yes it'd be nice to win it but the context is we're in a relegation scrap. If we put out a full first team and pick up an injury...the consequences of that make me shudder.
We should put out a team capable of winning the game but there is no way we should be risking key players on this.
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Alsager will put out a team and we should use it as an opportunity to put some potential youth players through a competitive game. This is the CSC and yes it'd be nice to win it but the context is we're in a relegation scrap. If we put out a full first team and pick up an injury...the consequences of that make me shudder.
We should put out a team capable of winning the game but there is no way we should be risking key players on this.
This should be our aim
We don't have to win it 7/8-0 - a comfortable 1/2-0 would suffice
I'd however also use this match to give Coates a game along with coly
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They have vowed to fulfil all fixtures. As Foster's not coming let's have a look at Coly and Sonko whilst we're at it. The youth player Woods also looked useful so could be on the bench again?
We can win this one by a cricket score.
What do you have in mind?
Graham Gooch's 333 at Lord's, perhaps....?
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Don't we have to play a reasonable looking first team or face a fine from the blazers at Cheshire HQ?
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Much prefer to win by the odd goal in the semi ... and win by a dozen or so in the final!
Which should always be played at the Deva (or whatever it's called now) as Chester is the county town and all that ;)
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Don't we have to play a reasonable looking first team or face a fine from the blazers at Cheshire HQ?
Perhaps we should do an Alsager then and have Ken and the boys all walk out, just until after the semi, of course.
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They have vowed to fulfil all fixtures. As Foster's not coming let's have a look at Coly and Sonko whilst we're at it. The youth player Woods also looked useful so could be on the bench again?
We can win this one by a cricket score.
What do you have in mind?
Graham Gooch's 333 at Lord's, perhaps....?
Trust someone to spoil it, I played for Sale at Alsager back in 1979 and scored 6 not out and took 1-37 if my records were correctly taken!
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So do Alsager get fined for fielding (presumably) a weakened team??
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So do Alsager get fined for fielding (presumably) a weakened team??
Who knows - they may not have the money
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If they only have 11 players - it'll have to be their strongest 11
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The prospect of Alsager being fined for putting a weakened team out is utterly preposterous, which is no reason to assume the Cheshire FA won't do just that.
What is the point of clubs employing managers if the teams chosen by the managers are deemed weak by a set of suits? Young Holloway at Blackpool is correct on this topic.
On the topic of Blackpool - wasn't it ace beating them two years on the trot AWAY in the cup. Hapy Days.
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in reality wont they just jack this game in and let us progress without playing
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in reality wont they just jack this game in and let us progress without playing
no otherwise they will get fined for failing to fulfill a fixture
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Alsager lost 3-0 away at Winsford on Tuesday night (1st Feb) in front of 125 fans.
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Not to bad a result
Windrows are top or 2nd last time I looked
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So do Alsager get fined for fielding (presumably) a weakened team??
Who knows - they may not have the money
Or
If they only have 11 players - it'll have to be their strongest 11
Correct, it's a question of them fielding the strongest team AVAILABLE. It'd be like fining us cos Youngy and Kearney aren't playing!
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A work colleague is the manager of Winsford Utd.......he said they weren't bad and basically defended in big numbers to keep the score respectable
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3 players from my work colleagues Sunday pub team played for Alsager the other night, they are thrilled to now be playin Alty on Tuesday!
Believe it was a midfielder and both forwards.
Still would like to meet Vics in the final.
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This could be be of the oddest nights at Moss Lane for ages if a load of Sunday league players are justv defending for their lives!
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I can't imagine what this place will be like on Wednesday morning if we haven't beaten a bunch of sunday league players at least 48-0.
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I can't imagine what this place will be like on Wednesday morning if we haven't beaten a bunch of sunday league players at least 48-0.
One thing is for sure it will be time for McKenna to GO if we don't.. ;)
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I think one thing is for sure - we need to rest any key players for this game, e.g. Reeves, and having anyone at all risking getting injured in this game would be bobbins, regardless of what the Cheshire FA say.
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This could be be of the oddest nights at Moss Lane for ages if a load of Sunday league players are justv defending for their lives!
Sure, but I think Alsager will fancy their chances of breaking down our resistance at some point! :D
Someone had to do it...
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Don't we have to play a reasonable looking first team or face a fine from the blazers at Cheshire HQ?
I can see it now "Altrincham have been fined 150 Guineas for fielding a weakened team in a Cheshire Senior Cup tie against Alsager"!
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I can see it now "Altrincham have been fined 150 Guineas for fielding a weakened team in a Cheshire Senior Cup tie against Alsager"!
Sorry, Brian, not quite accurate. The self-important blazers at the County FA have ordained the following -
"Rule 4 - PLAYING STRENGTH. Clubs must be represented by their strongest available team. Any Clubs failing to comply with this rule shall be fined not less than £200.00."
150 guineas = £150 + 150x5p (£7.50) = £157.50. (!)
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Do these players have to be registered 7 days before the tie or have I made that up?
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Do these players have to be registered 7 days before the tie or have I made that up?
"Rule 3 - ELIGIBILITY OF PLAYERS
(i) In all rounds ... prior to the Final, a player must be a registered player of his Club.
(ii) Any such registration ...must have been received and accepted by the Football Association, or ... registered with a League in which his Club competes by 12 noon on the Friday previous to the date fixed for the playing of the Round ...
(iii) In order to be eligible to play in the Final Tie, players must have been eligible to play in the Semi Final ties'
So it looks as if anyone they've signed this week is OK to play on Tuesday.
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Breaking news, Biddulph Vics are to merge with Alsager Town, the name will remain Alsager Town though Bidduplh Vics have tended resignation from their existing league at the end of the season. In the meantime, both un merged sides still have to fulfil their fixtures for current season.
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Do we know if the entrance prices are to be reduced on Tuesday? Hope so, as not seeing any football today was frustrating.
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Do we know if the entrance prices are to be reduced on Tuesday? Hope so, as not seeing any football today was frustrating.
Admission is £10 Adults - Conc £5 - U12's £2 - Seating or Standing
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Doubt there will be many at Moss Lane at those prices.
:( :( :(
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Same as the last round..seems fair enough to me.
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Same as the last round..seems fair enough to me.
I shall be spending as much on this round as I have spent in the last ten seasons of the competition.
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I reckon if we get to the final.... When they present the trophy at the end we should all shout to the Cheshire FA members (who should be there) to arrange this bloody competition during the pre season.
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"Cheshire Cup game prices are Adults £10, Concessionaries £5, Under-16s £2. These prices apply whether standing or sitting. " - this was the Hyde prices - so not identical
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Then maybe I'm wrong on them...I would expect them to be the same as the last round
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I reckon if we get to the final.... When they present the trophy at the end we should all shout to the Cheshire FA members (who should be there) to arrange this bloody competition during the pre season.
Surely nobody turning up would surely be better from R1 onwards - then donating the money to the club so they dont lose out financially ?
as much as i like the CSC, (which i do) Pre Season does have its benefits - even if we had to have it as group stage then SF and the final
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I do wish some of you lot would stop whinging. We are in the semi final of this cup and my son and I will be at the match.
It will be my lad`s first semi and we are really looking forward to it, hopefully we will win and then play the green slime in the final.
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I do wish some of you lot would stop whinging. We are in the semi final of this cup and my son and I will be at the match.
It will be my lad`s first semi and we are really looking forward to it, hopefully we will win and then play the green slime in the final.
so do i....ive never seen us play vics
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I dont' like paying £10 to see this type of game either, but I will be there anyway. It's about supporting the club. Unfortunately our home support of 750 people is one reason why we struggle to compete
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I dont' like paying £10 to see this type of game either, but I will be there anyway. It's about supporting the club. Unfortunately our home support of 750 people is one reason why we struggle to compete
I have to agree with Mick on this one... the more who support these games by attending the more money the club can generate plus we do have a good chance of winning a trophy....
Bite the bullet folks and come and watch Alty get into the final and the club makes a few quid in the process
Cmon Alty
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I reckon if we get to the final.... When they present the trophy at the end we should all shout to the Cheshire FA members (who should be there) to arrange this bloody competition during the pre season.
We could give the players some shirts so they can show their support form the CSC for Summer campaign ;)
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Bite the bullet folks and come and watch Alty get into the final and the club makes a few quid in the process
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I have no idea what the break even figure is to hold one of these games bearing in mind the "gate" is split but I'd be surprised if we don't make a loss each time. My possible solution would be to introduce a loyalty scheme for fans whereby you get a points tally for attending games, yes I know it requires technology and admin. Points could be collected and redeemed on merchandise or free entry. Games like these could be rated with a much higher points tally than the more attractive fixtures therefore giving an incentive.
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I have no idea what the break even figure is to hold one of these games bearing in mind the "gate" is split but I'd be surprised if we don't make a loss each time. My possible solution would be to introduce a loyalty scheme for fans whereby you get a points tally for attending games, yes I know it requires technology and admin. Points could be collected and redeemed on merchandise or free entry. Games like these could be rated with a much higher points tally than the more attractive fixtures therefore giving an incentive.
Surely they deduct costs of holding the game before spiting the gate?
And the points system is a good idea, though you could always just print a coupon in the program rather than keeping a record of everyone.
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As previously mentioned, Alsager registered 22 new players last week. Shame that their first and only chance to play together competitively prior to tomorrow's game was called off due to a waterlogged pitch...
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As previously mentioned, Alsager registered 22 new players last week. Shame that their first and only chance to play together competitively prior to tomorrow's game was called off due to a waterlogged pitch...
They played together last week at Winsford and lost 3-0
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As previously mentioned, Alsager registered 22 new players last week. Shame that their first and only chance to play together competitively prior to tomorrow's game was called off due to a waterlogged pitch...
They played together last week at Winsford and lost 3-0
How many of the 22 were involved that day though?
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Since I set us off on this wild goose chase, I've had a dig around:
Difficult to tell much from the Alsager website, but:
1. Winsford Town site says Alsager named 12 players in their squad for the game.
2. Alsager Town's squad against Winsford appears to have included at least 7 players who are named on the Alsager site as being part of their reserve team squad
That showed me. Looks like a fair number of them will at least have some experience of playing as a unit, albeit at reserve level and previously unable to break into Alsager's Vodkat Premier squad.
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The main for the club is to get as many fans through the turnstiles to help with balancing the books. COME ON SUPPORT THE CLUB.