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Whilst the trough toilets may be seen as outdated and smelly, they certainly got the job done, fast. And there is an issue on the pop side.

And I would suggest that the old pop side snack bar, whilst small, could nonetheless be turned to selling old programmes/DVDs at a pinch, and as mentioned elsewhere, why not use the redundant space behind the pop side/Chequers corner for a stewards shed. I know I know, but nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Quote from: Paul Cain's Chip Pan on November 14, 2022, 03:03:05 PM

A lot of things on this forum boil down to extremes. There are seldom any shades of grey.

Example:

If we lose three on the bounce, we're sh*t and we're going down. We then go four unbeaten and people start talking about the playoffs and the football league. There's no middle ground.

In this situation there was never an issue with kids being in and around the ground, the issue was whether parents were supervising them and helping them stay safe. As a parent myself, I can relate to this. Instead it has seemingly degenerated into two factions, people who hate kids and people who don't. It wasn't necessary for this to happen.

Disagree completely. Please read all the posts that have been critical of the behaviour of kids. Not one has given the impression that they hate kids...in fact they mostly welcome kids.....but also would like to enjoy the game more by not having them just run around all game. It is that simple.....there are no extremes of kids vs no kids. As Hashtag says, doubt it would be allowed at some of the ex league clubs with ambition to return.

As for Amsterdam. Words fail me....just read my posts carefully and in a measured way will you.

I seem to remember Whitchurch Alport have a children's play area. Surely something of the sort could be arranged. Perhaps part of the trouble is that areas that used to serve this function are now occupied by the CSH and fan zone. Obviously positive developments but it only leaves the stands to run about in.

Quote from: Amsterdam Alty on November 14, 2022, 09:56:18 AM

Can we do something about the decrepit old men we have that appear to come to the game and complain about strange things? If it's not our top goal scorer it's our future fans. I'm also concerned that while they are snapping their necks to stare and tut that they might lose their balance and fall over popping a hip in the process.

Honestly this forum is a cesspool. Never change everyone

This forum is indeed, for the most part, an absolute cesspool.


Some users on here seem to be able to turn even the most positive of issues, such as young fans being on the increase, into negative vitriol.

Honestly, I've gone from reading everyday to avoiding it most of the time. Either more fans need to use it or it can close down and I doubt most would miss it.

To be fair, it's a lot better now we no longer have trolls from clubs like Runcorn and Southport using it. And it can be useful for updates on various issues (traffic issues for away games and so on).

We are to understand then, that there are sometimes rowdy children at the JDS (arguably better than no children at all). There is also blasphemy, foul and abusive language, politics, and probably other things besides. Now I don't necessarily agree with some of this. Still, perhaps the words of the inimitable Frank Skinner are worth quoting: if you don't like it, move to another part of the terrace. One of the great joys of watching Altrincham is that it is always possible to stand (or sit) somewhere else (unless the government bans us of course). May I recommend that little bit of open terracing between the GRE and the pop side cover? Always seems to be sparsely populated and offers an excellent view of the game.

Speaking purely for myself, the behaviour of children at the club simply hasn't been an issue. I will leave it for others to decide what, if anything, needs to be done.

Subsidised away travel for me. We  used to take transport to every league game and probably took a few more, certainly in terms of percentage of home support. Would be very welcome with costs so high.

Quote from: Hugh on October 31, 2022, 08:06:54 PM

Just out of interest, does anyone know our home league attendance record?

Think it was altrincham schoolboys vs Sunderland schoolboys in the 1920s. 10,200 and something I believe?

I heard about the Sunderland match, and I know about the Orient and Everton match (and what used to happen in the CSC - those were the days!). But what about for an actual league match? There was allegedly 4,501 at the Barnet game (3,000 officially for legal reasons?), 4,632 vs. Guiseley if you count playoffs, 3,900 vs county last season. What bigger league crowds have there been? I seem to remember a quote about crowds of 5,000 being "not unusual" in the CL glory days.

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Quote from: cheshire cat on October 27, 2022, 11:19:18 PM

Just for the record what was on offer in the Fanzone?

Overpriced craft beer

£4 is very reasonable and matches what Libero used to charge.

Hi All - just to add for fact and clarity - the last price board in the fan zone from Libero, before closure, had the following prices

Flensburger £4.40
Factotum £4.60
Letter 23 Sour £4
Erdant 20  Att Moon £7.80
Hogans Cider £4.60

Current pricing in any local craft beer venues is more than that now.

Initial pricing for the reopen trial was £5 draught, £4 cans and bottles to keep it simple - more detailed pricing will evolve over time, but please bear in mind its a football stadium, San Miguel at the main bar is £4.80 and sells in big volume, and all profit made goes straight to running the football club and hopefully playing budget ultimately. A few early pints were sold at less due to teething problems with a faulty machine ! It was a soft launch.

Frankie will listen to any feedback and requests and is happy to source different product, but on balance it will have to appeal to the majority and individual requests may not be cost effective or popular. The one guarantee will be a choice, with up to 6 draught lines on offer supplemented with cans and bottles for lower volume options.

With reference to queue time, I did some calculations, if there are 150 people (assumed FZ capacity) who want serving within 10 minutes of half time whistle, to give 5 mins minimum to drink the pint - it would need a server to serve a pint every 4 seconds. Realistically, it must take 30 seconds to ask someone for their order, pour it, till it, pay for it.  That would need over 7 servers to achieve that which is unrealistic - please bear this in mind - we will work towards efficiency, prepay and prepour etc, but we will never manage perfection in an environment where so much trade happens within such a small window :-)

Stuart.

Thanks for that, and I emphasise I am happy as long as the issues are understood, and efforts are made to make things as good as they can be.

I should add, I reckon a turnover of every 4 seconds could theoretically be achieved, at least during half time - give people the option of booking their half time drink in the 90 minutes prior to the match (or indeed online earlier), make it only one popular option for ease and speed ("yay"), and have plenty of them ready poured at half time.

An interesting case study is King's Lynn for our first ever match in Norfolk. They had a barbecue selling just burgers. All people had to decide was whether they wanted cheese and onion, and a score or so of burgers were cooking on the bbq at half time, with one being taken off for a customer when ready. The system seemed to work and I liked it. Could we possibly look at employing a similar system? After all, some people just want any drink. Other drinks could still be served alongside this of course for people who were prepared to wait a bit longer.