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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: Saughall Robin on October 13, 2021, 12:38:13 PM
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Okay folks, what's everyone's thoughts on this one?
Whilst I'd much rather stay in with a chance of the play offs, there's potentially a good payday if we can win this.
Do we patch up the injuries or shuffle the pack?
I'm right in the middle on this one. Thoughts?
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Bit of shuffling is definitely required for the two injuries, we could see Gould and Sutton back, with the potential for Digie getting involved for the first time
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Bit of shuffling is definitely required for the two injuries, we could see Gould and Sutton back, with the potential for Digie getting involved for the first time
Have they played in the cup already for their loan club? If so they can't play at Southport.
(just asking, don't know)
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9K and a possible draw at Sunderland or Portsmouth (again) in the next round.
I'd play as strong a side as possible.
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Bit of shuffling is definitely required for the two injuries, we could see Gould and Sutton back, with the potential for Digie getting involved for the first time
Have they played in the cup already for their loan club? If so they can't play at Southport.
(just asking, don't know)
No, Nantwich were out of the cup before Gould arrived and Sutton didn't play in Alfeton's defeat at Cleethorpes (which I imagine was part of the loan agreement). Sutton's one-month loan period has expired so I assume he's back with us already. Gould's loan deal included an emergency recall clause, which you'd think we'll be exercising.
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Bigger guessing game than usual for this match. Don't we get 7 subs in FA cup?
Would expect Gould back whatever. Sounds like Mooney is the biggest doubt of all.
Not to have Mooney or colcough would be a big blow.
Assume Southport are still a tad direct.
Looking forward to it but not as much as I was 24 hours ago.
Southport 1-2 Alty
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Southport are still very direct. Their biggest weapon will be the long throw into the 6-yard area. Having said that, they do have some good footballers too.
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Bigger guessing game than usual for this match. Don't we get 7 subs in FA cup?
Would expect Gould back whatever. Sounds like Mooney is the biggest doubt of all.
Not to have Mooney or colcough would be a big blow.
Assume Southport are still a tad direct.
Looking forward to it but not as much as I was 24 hours ago.
Southport 1-2 Alty
In terms of wingers I think we have decent options with kossy and jackson
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Bit of shuffling is definitely required for the two injuries, we could see Gould and Sutton back, with the potential for Digie getting involved for the first time
Have they played in the cup already for their loan club? If so they can't play at Southport.
(just asking, don't know)
No, Nantwich were out of the cup before Gould arrived and Sutton didn't play in Alfeton's defeat at Cleethorpes (which I imagine was part of the loan agreement). Sutton's one-month loan period has expired so I assume he's back with us already. Gould's loan deal included an emergency recall clause, which you'd think we'll be exercising.
You're spot-on, Laurence - story on website now.
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Mullarkey instagram says he suffered from a slight concussion last night, so 10 days off. Hopefully thats it for him then?
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Mullarkey instagram says he suffered from a slight concussion last night, so 10 days off. Hopefully thats it for him then?
Looks like it's Sutton and Hannigan then at centre back on Saturday then eh?
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Mullarkey instagram says he suffered from a slight concussion last night, so 10 days off. Hopefully thats it for him then?
Looks like it's Sutton and Hannigan then at centre back on Saturday then eh?
Yeah, hopefully Sutton is fresh after his loan, guessing he got quite a bit of gametime
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Richie Sutton seemed to get plenty of gametime at Alfreton, so I guess he'd go straight in alongside Tom at the back.
Matt Gould's loan spell seems to have been a great success, I'm sure he'll take his chance with both hands.
Dan Mooney isn't worth risking if we have a ready-made replacement in Brad Jackson.
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Regardless if Mooney and Kos were fit, I'd give Jackson and AJ a start.
I'd also consider resting Moult and trialling Furman and Pringle
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Gould; Senior, Sutton, Hannigan, Hampson; Jackson, Pringle, Moult, Kosylo; Hancock; Dinanga.
Subs : Densmore, Furman, Peers, Leitch-Smith, plus three youths including a goalkeeper.
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This but I’d play Furman ahead of Pringle, based solely on their respective showings on Tuesday night
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This but I’d play Furman ahead of Pringle, based solely on their respective showings on Tuesday night
From what I've seen (wasn't there on Tuesday though) Furman seems to be a defensive midfielder like Moult by inclination but I think he's deserved his shot.
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I don't really think it's a game where we should be setting up with two defensive midfielders. We need to be on the front foot from the off.
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Is cloclough definitely out?
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I don't really think it's a game where we should be setting up with two defensive midfielders. We need to be on the front foot from the off.
I agree, think Parky will rotate a little and bring in replacements for the walking wounded. But be attacking as we want to progress.
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Regardless if Mooney and Kos were fit, I'd give Jackson and AJ a start.
I'd also consider resting Moult and trialling Furman and Pringle
On the fairly safe premise that a Liam Watson team will subject us to an aerial bombardment, I don't think that an afternoon at Haig Avenue constitutes the ideal occasion to be resting Jake Moult.
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Regardless if Mooney and Kos were fit, I'd give Jackson and AJ a start.
I'd also consider resting Moult and trialling Furman and Pringle
On the fairly safe premise that a Liam Watson team will subject us to an aerial bombardment, I don't think that an afternoon at Haig Avenue constitutes the ideal occasion to be resting Jake Moult.
Aye, Moult is essential on Saturday.
Gould; Densmore, Sutton, Hannigan, Hampson; Moult, Pringle; Jackson, Kosylo, Peers; Leitch-Smith
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Regardless if Mooney and Kos were fit, I'd give Jackson and AJ a start.
I'd also consider resting Moult and trialling Furman and Pringle
On the fairly safe premise that a Liam Watson team will subject us to an aerial bombardment, I don't think that an afternoon at Haig Avenue constitutes the ideal occasion to be resting Jake Moult.
Aye, Moult is essential on Saturday.
Gould; Densmore, Sutton, Hannigan, Hampson; Moult, Pringle; Jackson, Kosylo, Peers; Leitch-Smith
Are you suggesting 4-4-2?
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Regardless if Mooney and Kos were fit, I'd give Jackson and AJ a start.
I'd also consider resting Moult and trialling Furman and Pringle
On the fairly safe premise that a Liam Watson team will subject us to an aerial bombardment, I don't think that an afternoon at Haig Avenue constitutes the ideal occasion to be resting Jake Moult.
Aye, Moult is essential on Saturday.
Gould; Densmore, Sutton, Hannigan, Hampson; Moult, Pringle; Jackson, Kosylo, Peers; Leitch-Smith
Are you suggesting 4-4-2?
The placing of the semicolons would suggest 4-2-3-1 with peers playing wide instead of Kosylo, who moves to number ten, and Hanks.
Interesting but unlikely.
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Gould
Densmore Sutton Hannigan Hampson
Moult Pringle
Jackson Hancock Kosylo
Leitch-Smith
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Gould
Densmore Sutton Hannigan Hampson
Moult Pringle
Jackson Hancock Kosylo
Leitch-Smith
Yep, that would do for me too.
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Me too.
By the way, what's happened to Fitzpatrick?
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After reading the Southport forum it seems they are expecting a win or worst and draw, even if we drop a few regulars and we turn up we will murder them they do not realise the difference in the two leagues, if we dont turn up then its anyone's game but I don't think parky or sorvs will let that happen.
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After reading the Southport forum it seems they are expecting a win or worst and draw, even if we drop a few regulars and we turn up we will murder them they do not realise the difference in the two leagues, if we dont turn up then its anyone's game but I don't think parky or sorvs will let that happen.
Try telling that to the Birmingham City,Everton,and Spurs of this world on paper they should have won by a mile.If we turn up i don't see an issue but this is cup football and this competition has a habit of causing upsets my prediction
Southport 1 Alty 3
Attendance 1400
350 Alty fans.
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Is cloclough definitely out?
if it is covid it's 10 days from result
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Regardless if Mooney and Kos were fit, I'd give Jackson and AJ a start.
I'd also consider resting Moult and trialling Furman and Pringle
On the fairly safe premise that a Liam Watson team will subject us to an aerial bombardment, I don't think that an afternoon at Haig Avenue constitutes the ideal occasion to be resting Jake Moult.
Aye, Moult is essential on Saturday.
Gould; Densmore, Sutton, Hannigan, Hampson; Moult, Pringle; Jackson, Kosylo, Peers; Leitch-Smith
You'd have dropped Mooney at Torquay 😉
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I think Peers will start. We're likely to rotate, he needs game time, he's done well with the minutes he's had and I seem to remember him scoring and generally playing quite well when we were last there. He's also a bit of a cup specialist.
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I think a confident Alty will have too much for Southport,
Southport 0-2 Alty
Unfortunately unable to get to this one..
Onwards & Upwards.
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Any injury updates since the Yeovil game?
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Any injury updates since the Yeovil game?
Toby said he'd be out for 10 days, I'm guessing that Thommo was injured before the match at Yeovil and they decided to risk it.. So think Gould will be in.
Not sure about anyone else. Rightly the club are keeping some injuries out of the public domain so as not to give the opposition too much prior info on squad availability in my opinion.
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I can see this going to a replay. It's never easy at Southport and they will be right up for it.
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Not sure there are replays this round, think it will be extra time then pens if required.
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We've got to be confident haven't we?
I'm afraid of jinxing us but we really should be expecting a win one way or another.
Apart from anything else there's almost £10k riding on it and the prospect of a lot more in the next round.
Come on you Supers! 🏆 🥇
PS. Having said all that, I'd swap a win on Saturday for 9 or 10 points from the next four league games! 😉
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Not sure there are replays this round, think it will be extra time then pens if required.
Replays are back this year - Southport have had two already.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12356398/fa-cup-replays-to-return-for-2021-22-season-up-to-and-including-fourth-round (https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12356398/fa-cup-replays-to-return-for-2021-22-season-up-to-and-including-fourth-round)
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Doh, should have realised that!!!! 😆
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Gould and Sutton start. Tom starts up front.
Come on you Supers, make us even prouder! 🏆
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Well done. Sounds like a tough game.
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Continue our away draw jinx. Sheffield Wednesday at Hillsborough please.
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Excellent result.
Onwards & Upwards
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Marcus Carver has always struck me as being quite a useful striker - BBC (which I'll take with a pinch of salt) has him down as a goal every 110 mins this season.
Could he be much worse than what we've got?
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TP23
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Perhaps with the Cup Draw being televised by ITV tomorrow we might break our run of away fixtures.
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Dreadful game.
Whoever we get wont be as direct and basic as Southport, hope never to play them again
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Deserved win in the end. We didn’t start particularly well and let them get on top in the early stages, when we did manage to break away we gave the ball away carelessly. Their 1st goal was deserved accounting for all the pressure they had been putting us under, especially from long throws. Then Peersy scored from almost nothing (good through ball possibly from Jackson?) and then a great near-post header from Hanks. Second half we were more accomplished and kept the ball better. A very well worked third goal. We generally dealt well with their long throws (Hannigan, Sutton and Moult were immense in the centre, Peers did some good defensive work as well). Their third goal was well worked but after that we kept them at bay pretty well.
Have they narrowed their pitch on purpose to facilitate hoof-ball and percentages? If so, pretty embarrassing.
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Dreadful game.
Whoever we get wont be as direct and basic as Southport, hope never to play them again
Try not to be disparaging. They played the game to suit their strengths and pushed us all the way.
Will have been a good heads up with a few learning points today with Borehamwood and Solihull Moors (who play that way only better) in the next few games.
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I was quite disappointed by our display for much of today's game. I know there were loads of personnel changes but we really didn't seem to get going until the start of the second half. How we were ahead at half time is beyond me!
Hanks' goal was clever, Kosy was a constant thorn in their side and Tom Hannigan was a rock, but it looked like we were doing our best to play to Port's only strength - the long throw (seriously, how many did they have?)
Hopefully for Southport, their new coach (with ex-Crewe experience) can completely alter the way they play football. He can start with that embarrassingly narrow pitch. They all work very hard but are being seriously impaired by the loathsome approach they deploy.
We march on and hopefully we'll have one or two defenders back for our next outing.
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They're an anti- football side and have been for the last 15 years.
How they get any repeat home fans is beyond me
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I know a few who have turned away from the club. It's a shame. I've always seen them as an equal club to us. Like I say though, I hope the new coaching appointment can help them. Their surface is lovely; they just need to learn to use it. Their fans know all this already.
With regards Marcus Carver. Clearly, their directness plays to his strengths, but notwithstanding (as Marple said) he'd probably be an upgrade on our 9 options. It doesn't look like Dinganga is flavour of the month right now.
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Interview with robininstockport's favourite manager:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfD-HjqWGTI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfD-HjqWGTI)
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Wow. Players under the bus the lot.
Defo not his fault.
Err, get in the sea you football dinosaur
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Poor game; the scoreline suggests it was closer than it was when, in reality, we didn’t get out of second gear and still never looked like losing. The difference between the two teams compared to the last time I saw us play there was huge.
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Interview with robininstockport's favourite manager:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfD-HjqWGTI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfD-HjqWGTI)
He seems a sensible sort. I thought I'd look at the Conference North table to confirm what a capable chap he is.😂😂😂
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I worry about the detrimental affect their looming relegation may have on the Evo Stick league!!!!!! ;) ;)SBL
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On a serious note, given all the recent publicity about the long term debilitating affects of heading a football should their tactics be at least questioned by the powers that B? SBL
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Highlights on u tube now.. Southport v alty fa cup . Tried to attach link but it doesn't seem to open! SBL
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Interview with robininstockport's favourite manager:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfD-HjqWGTI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfD-HjqWGTI)
He seems a sensible sort. I thought I'd look at the Conference North table to confirm what a capable chap he is.😂😂😂
And having considered his son's less than impressive impact over the 90 minutes, I have to throw in an accusation of nepotism.
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Have they narrowed their pitch on purpose to facilitate hoof-ball and percentages? If so, pretty embarrassing.
I suspect that the narrow pitch is in place to facilitate their obsession with long throw-ins. They have the basis of a sound netball team.
I am not going to say that I was disappointed with Alty's performance overall but I would of liked us to step up a gear and finish them off completely by adding a further goal or two at 3-1.
A trip to Gateshead was not what I desired. We never seem to do very well there. A trip to Merske is a banana skin waiting to be stepped on ... I am now sorry that I took the pish when they knocked Chester out :D
My prediction is: A narrow Alty win against either of them after a hard fought game or maybe after a replay at Moss Lane.
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Happily take a draw to get them back to Moss Lane as with a decent sqaud we should have more than enough over 180 minutes.
As for Saturday Our starting XI was missing 5 first choice players against Southport (Thompson, Mallarky, Mooney, Colclough, Dinanga or AJ), and for the first 25 minutes it showed.