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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on August 31, 2022, 11:57:28 AM
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Not looking forward to this one bit.
Byrne
Barrows. Mullarkey. Cooper. Baines
Osbourne. Lundstram
Bennett. Conn-Clarke. Colclough
Hulme
About 4 close calls as to starting 11 .
Solihull 2-0 Alty
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Would like to see Ollie in goal and get a decent run. Wonder if Parky will give Zak a run out, it would certainly give Solihull something new to think about. Other positions will depend upon injuries. Can see Dinanga starting as well.
Would take a point if offered now.
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Baines may be a half decent centre back, but as a left back he gives us nothing. I'd play Brockbanks.
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Byrne
Barrows. Mullarkey. Baines Brockbank
Osbourne. Lundstram
Kaja .Conn-Clarke Colclough
Hulme
Would like to see us sign a LB and CM.
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Always a horrible horrible game with them. I'm going to wish this one away and look forward to Scunny.
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Always a horrible horrible game with them. I'm going to wish this one away and look forward to Scunny.
Who have just sacked Keith Hill
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Really tough game this and to get even a point out of it would be a tall order.
The encouragement comes from the fact that we have picked up solid points already at Bromley and Boreham Wood who are similarly physical outfits. Wouldn’t like to pick the team as too many moving parts at the moment but just hope we continue with another decent performance which sets us up for the two important home games that follow.
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Not looking forward to this one bit.
Byrne
Barrows. Mullarkey. Cooper. Baines
Osbourne. Lundstram
Bennett. Conn-Clarke. Colclough
Hulme
About 4 close calls as to starting 11 .
Solihull 2-0 Alty
You see this is the thing. That is more or less our best starting XI and it just hasn’t been up to it yet.
Need more pace. I’ll take anything from Saturday
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Baines must be a doubtful starter for the Solihull game after the way he limped off the pitch right at the end of the Chesterfield match.
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Not looking forward to this one bit.
Byrne
Barrows. Mullarkey. Cooper. Baines
Osbourne. Lundstram
Bennett. Conn-Clarke. Colclough
Hulme
About 4 close calls as to starting 11 .
Solihull 2-0 Alty
You see this is the thing. That is more or less our best starting XI and it just hasn’t been up to it yet.
Need more pace. I’ll take anything from Saturday
Totally agree.
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I reckon hulme could be crocked again
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Watching Liverpool tonight and the commentators talking about Harvey Elliott improving with game time and he has been mint. Not comparing us to Liverpool but my only issue with PP is giving players a chance. Being stubborn with players. Give Sami or even Kaja a few games.... you did with Mooney.
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I think colclough tweaked a hamstring late in the game on Saturday.
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Can’t make Solihull this time unfortunately.
No doubting there ability makes this another difficult away game
Yet another very good striker (Dallas) to keep at bay
We have had a few difficult games of late, let’s hope we can kick on soon.
A point on Saturday will be a very good result.
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Watching Liverpool tonight and the commentators talking about Harvey Elliott improving with game time and he has been mint. Not comparing us to Liverpool but my only issue with PP is giving players a chance. Being stubborn with players. Give Sami or even Kaja a few games.... you did with Mooney.
Given that he played for the Reserves last week, I don't think Sami currently figures in PP's plans. Something to prove ? An injury we don't know about ? Whatever, we shouldn't be thinking of him as the Messiah.
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I expect one of the two incoming signings we're being teased with on Twitter will step straight into the starting XI. I'm saying no more....
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Are you one of the chosen few?
If you know, spill the beans man
This forum is like a game of Cluedo at times
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What happened to the running with a smaller squad narrative? Including the academy graduates we can't be far short of 30 strong now.
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I make it 24 excluding those out on loan or long term injured. That includes the academy signings.
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I expect one of the two incoming signings we're being teased with on Twitter will step straight into the starting XI. I'm saying no more....
I think you are right. And he is left.
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Welcome back Eddie. And welcome to Dan - an unknown quantity, and hopefully with plenty to offer.
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Just to clarity , that's Eddy Jones and Dan Malone , both on loan from Stoke .
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Welcome and good luck
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Glad we have brought in Eddy Jones.
Hopefully we can now start to see a stable back 4 of
Barrows, Toby, Baines or J.Jones ,E.Jones with Byrne in net.
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Glad we have brought in Eddy Jones.
Hopefully we can now start to see a stable back 4 of
Barrows, Toby, Baines or J.Jones ,E.Jones with Byrne in net.
That defence will be able to cope with most teams imho.
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I make it 24 excluding those out on loan or long term injured. That includes the academy signings.
According to the JL site, the squad stands at 32 if you include the 4 loanees. That's excluding the 6 academy lads.
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I saw that but counting the names on the same sites first team page gives 32 including the academy players, those out on loan and the injured 3. So I think we have 24 senior players potentially available for selection
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Still not the smaller squad we were expecting though. Perhaps some are on short term contracts to 'prove' themselves?
Also, as others have said, difficult to see where the goals are to come from.
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It might be a smaller senior squad but a full time club is always going to have 30 players including capable academy players.
Be a waste of being full time if you haven’t got enough to do some decent 11 v 11 work.
The squad isn’t too small, it’s not good enough. Hence we’ve got 6 loan players in (large amount in September that). Coupled with two significant injuries
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I have to say, 6 loan players by the start of September ain't too promising.
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Mee in goal again. Maybe Ollie could sabotage his pre-match lunch or something. It's ridiculous.
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I think everyone would benefit from some transparency on the GK situation.
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Mee D. (G)
22
Barrows R.
27
Bennett A.
11
Colclough R.
16
Conn-Clarke C.
30
Dinanga M.
Jones E.
26
Jones J.
8
Lundstram J.
5
Mullarkey T.
10
Osborne E
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subs
Cooper J.
31
Goodson Z.
17
Jackson B.
4
Malone D.
18
Pringle B
No hulme at all
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Ugh. This game went south in a hurry :(
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again
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If we had taken 1 or 2 of those chances....
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If we had taken 1 or 2 of those chances....
Solihull missed two great chances before we even equalised though, so the scoreline could have been even more mortifying.
Another dispiriting listen on Radio Robins. We are now the only team in this division who are yet to win a game this season.
This team looks short of continuity, physical strength and goals. Not an auspicious combination there.
As has been mentioned elsewhere, the goalkeeping situation is a farcical and you have to wonder who negotiated that loan deal.
The lack of transparency at the club of late (on various issues) has been alarming and at present it feels as if the only time that they see fit to engage with supporters is when they are seeking to extract more money from them.
And just to cap off a wretched afternoon, Macc won at West Didsbury & Chorlton in the FA Cup. I sense a collision with them down the road....
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The lack of transparency at the club of late (on various issues) has been alarming and at present it feels as if the only time that they see fit to engage with supporters is when they are seeking to extract more money from them.
I expected a slow start as its a new team and I am concerned with how its going so far but I'm finding the club communication (or lack of) more disconcerting tbh at the moment. This is definitely different from last season, for whatever reason.
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I feel we need a win and quickly.
As we know the game is all about confidence and in fairness the last 3 games have been difficult.
We play Wealdstone at home this coming Saturday, they have started well but in all honesty they haven’t had a difficult fixture apart from Bromley, I fancy us to beat them next week and hopefully get a bit of a run going.
I agree that the keeper situation and the seemingly lack of communication from. The club is a bit puzzling.
Sadly I can’t make next Saturday’s game.
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Sadly I can’t make next Saturday’s game.
Let's hope that you're REALLY sad to have missed it come 5pm next Saturday. But I'm not holding my breath.
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If we replace Maidstone with either Weymouth or Dover, we are 4 points worse off than the equivalent games last year. So not catastrophic, but not ideal.
The biggest issue I have is with some of the seeming incoherence of the season so far. Clearly this was always going to be an experiment, as we haven't been full-time before, Phil and Neil hadn't managed a full-time squad, etc. And if the experiment was to run with a smallish squad of young hungry players (as was suggested) then fine. But the post-match interview suggested that this might not be the way forward, despite Parky saying this was the first performance he was disappointed in so far this season. If that's the case, then why make the suggestion of bringing in older, more experienced heads and making decisions about the younger players?
I just hope that there hasn't been a loss of conviction or coherence in the transition to full-time. It doesn't really feel like there is an answer to the question 'what sort of a team are we?', beyond the idea that we have loads of possession, and that's a bit at odds with the drive for people to invest in a journey (capital at risk). It'll be really interesting to see whether he sticks or twists, and if he does twist, how late he leaves it.
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I just hope that there hasn't been a loss of conviction or coherence in the transition to full-time.
There has. In addition there has been a loss of talent. If we look at the departing players and ask ourselves “are the replacements any better or at least as good” and the sad conclusion is “no”.
By name, who is better than Thompson, White, Hampson, Mooney, Hannigan, Moult, Hancock? Whilst it could be argued that a number of the old brigade would have struggled to last another season at National League level, we still needed replacements of equal or better calibre. We have neither.
The fact that we are full-time, and that fact has been glorified for weeks leading up to the season start, is utterly irrelevant if those full-time players have insufficient talent to make their mark at National League level.
Wasn’t Sports Psychology one of the areas of expertise that PP lectured upon in an earlier life? That skill needs to come to the fore now but preferably with players whose basic skill levels can meet the demands of our league.
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I just hope that there hasn't been a loss of conviction or coherence in the transition to full-time.
There has. In addition there has been a loss of talent. If we look at the departing players and ask ourselves “are the replacements any better or at least as good” and the sad conclusion is “no”.
By name, who is better than Thompson, White, Hampson, Mooney, Hannigan, Moult, Hancock? Whilst it could be argued that a number of the old brigade would have struggled to last another season at National League level, we still needed replacements of equal or better calibre. We have neither.
The fact that we are full-time, and that fact has been glorified for weeks leading up to the season start, is utterly irrelevant if those full-time players have insufficient talent to make their mark at National League level.
Wasn’t Sports Psychology one of the areas of expertise that PP lectured upon in an earlier life? That skill needs to come to the fore now but preferably with players whose basic skill levels can meet the demands of our league.
Having read and reread NdP’s post I’ve got to agree, with a heavy heart, it speaks the truth. The truth can hurt too. PP referred to being bottom of the food chain in his post match Solihull Moors interview. We were near the top of the part time pecking order before and that was reflected in the players mentioned in the post. Kossy and Marriott were two big blows and the keeper fiasco has been farcical. I was fully behind the full time venture so I can’t say I told you so. I think we can see the problems we are faced with which we didn’t have as a part time outfit. That’s the easy bit. Finding a solution is a major issue. Wealdstone and SC**thorpe at home are next. Get those behind us with some points in the bag and the glass will be half full again. Nobody expected this full time lark to be easy. It isn’t.
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The problem is perhaps not so much going full time, but doing so on what still appears to be a part time budget.
Ambition is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the wherewithal to at least make the opening steps successfully all you actually have are dreams.
If Wealdstone beat Working this afternoon, they'll move up to 3rd, but that should definitely not intimidate us. They're short of two players through suspension (if they're three match bans they'll miss the game here), and have only scored 2 goals in their last 3 matches.
SC**thorpe are a basket case - if we don't beat THEM we seriously are relegation fodder I'm afraid.
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Down
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I listened on RA and also listened to Parky, sounds like our first real poor performance, especially off the ball and defending. He is clearly worried as we are not clinical in the final third and were leaking goals. That's a big issue. Clearly Parky will assess where we are and see how he gets a response from the current recruits. Next couple of games will show Parky and us if further tweaking is required.
From my perspective, I would expect we need a balance of experience and youth, but both need the necessary attributes to be a success in the league. There is time at present and I'm keeping the faith. On the GK we need a settled Ollie in net asap.
COYR
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If Wealdstone beat Working this afternoon, they'll move up to 3rd, but that should definitely not intimidate us. They're short of two players through suspension (if they're three match bans they'll miss the game here), and have only scored 2 goals in their last 3 matches.
One was only a one game ban unfortunately.
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what happened to the Hybred plan?
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I think we're proving the argument of 'are a team full of the best part time players better than a team of mediocre full time players'
We're signing a squad of unknown but talented youngsters who'll do well well in Conference North next season.
I've yet to see what advantage of going full time is on the pitch.
Aside from Mullarkey, who's looks very good, we've not improved in one position.
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I think we're proving the argument of 'are a team full of the best part time players better than a team of mediocre full time players'
We're signing a squad of unknown but talented youngsters who'll do well well in Conference North next season.
I've yet to see what advantage of going full time is on the pitch.
Aside from Mullarkey, who's looks very good, we've not improved in one position.
I’m sorry but Lundstrum is much better than Moult
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I think we're proving the argument of 'are a team full of the best part time players better than a team of mediocre full time players'
We're signing a squad of unknown but talented youngsters who'll do well well in Conference North next season.
I've yet to see what advantage of going full time is on the pitch.
Aside from Mullarkey, who's looks very good, we've not improved in one position.
I’m sorry but Lundstrum is much better than Moult
Agreed , on paper a fully fit starting 11 from the current squad is as good as if not better than the first choice 11 a year ago .
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We lost Perritt (not ours to begin with), Ferguson (taken by an EFL team in a different budget stratosphere) and Mooney (disappointingly opted for a sideways move albeit for more money).
It's small margins in our league. Keep even 2 of those 3 and we'd be in with a shout of the play offs.
We've gone for the low wage, largish squad, youthful model. I had reservations about this approach but it is what we have gone with so fingers crossed it will work out. I am concerned in the sense that I really do believe that splashing the cash on at least one proven striker like Alex Reid would have been better (and possibly even cheaper) than retaining Hulme, Dinanga and a number of equally unproven kids.
Oh and regardless of what the manager says, the next two are must-win games.
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Agree that Lundstram is better than last seasons Moult
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Lundstram is better than Moult without any doubt.
When we play a lone striker we need our number 10 to be very good. Kossy replaced Hancock at the right time and no-one has replaced Kossy in that position.
We also miss pace and direct play in the RF position.
Would be in a different league position with Kossy no.10 and Marriott and Lundstram in CM. That is why I was so gutted those two got injured.
Don't want any of our players injured but if we had lost Osbourne and Pringle instead, then we wouldn't be struggling so much.
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Simply haven't replaced Mooney, Hancock or 2020 Hulme.
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Or 2021 colclough. Admittedly I’ve only seen two games but he was beyond woeful on Saturday apart from a 10 minute spell early in the second half. He barely moved above walking pace in the first half
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Or 2021 colclough. Admittedly I’ve only seen two games but he was beyond woeful on Saturday apart from a 10 minute spell early in the second half. He barely moved above walking pace in the first half
it's a shame as he is too good for this league in my opinion. He must be getting affected by the poor start and those around him . We need a player of his calibre to step up and lead
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Bloody dreadful start to the season, losing two key players to injury on top of a high player turnover, plus the goalkeeper farce and our first choice right back not being fit either - I actually do hope we get Perritt so we can get as many of last season's band back together as possible. Losing Mooney is devastating, he was such a huge player for us.
We could have done with getting these last two tough fixtures out of the way early doors, as many of our more recent performances would have been enough to dispatch Maidstone / Yeovil and probably get more at Maidenhead.
Oh how I would have loved for Solihull to have gone up in the playoff final last season.
I do think we need to persevere with the young attacking lads - it sounds as if Bennett is growing into his own role week on week? - although I do think our best centre back pairing is Baines and Mullarkey.
As for the answer to the goalkeeping problem? - who knows, I can only assume we panicked on the eve of the fixture because it didn't make logical sense to tie ourselves down like that given Byrne was missing for 1-2 games.
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I think we're proving the argument of 'are a team full of the best part time players better than a team of mediocre full time players'
We're signing a squad of unknown but talented youngsters who'll do well well in Conference North next season.
I've yet to see what advantage of going full time is on the pitch.
Aside from Mullarkey, who's looks very good, we've not improved in one position.
Difficult to argue with any of this. 😭
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Watched the Alty TV highlights on the match, not much coverage and not so good camera angle, but Bennetts strike goal of the game for sure. Other general points are that we need to be more clinical when good opportunities arise, sure I've said that before, but that let's us down big time. hard to say with the free kick, looked a good goal, but was wall in good place and it was a saveable height. others were generally as parky said poor defending overall. Lots to work on at both ends of the pitch.
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On the highlights of a 5-1 mauling you expect to see your goalkeeper making saves. Mee came for one cross and fumbled it in those clips. He is costing us.
It’s like having John Johnston in goal again. Start playing the GK you bought Parky before it’s too late
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Dermot Mee was not the problem on Saturday.
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But his inclusion in the team could well be part of the problem, particularly with so many loanees.
What arrangements are in place with parent clubs re. game time? How restrictive is this when it comes to team selection?
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Oh absolutely, there's a wider debate about loan agreements and the need for a settled back four, and I think it's pretty obvious that Ollie Byrne needs to be in the teamsheet from Saturday onwards. I'm just saying, Dermot Mee man-for-man as a footballer has been the least of our worries over the games that he's played. Even the mistake at Maidenhead can be part-attributed to Lewis Baines' (?) backpass.
It needs to be:
Byrne
Barrows Mullarkey Baines, E. Jones
From this point on, unless injury says otherwise.
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Dermot Mee was not the problem on Saturday.
Byrne would not have conceded 5 based on the highlight clips imo.
Baines wouldn’t be in my starting XI either, the titanic turned quicker than he does
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Think what we really miss from Byrne is the commanding of his defence.
Mee hardly says a word all 90 and you can't blame the lad he's young and inexperienced.
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Dermot Mee was not the problem on Saturday.
Byrne would not have conceded 5 based on the highlight clips imo.
Baines wouldn’t be in my starting XI either, the titanic turned quicker than he does
Perhaps, but to single Mee out on Saturday when the lads in front of him threw it in for the final 20 minutes is very unfair.
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Dermot Mee was not the problem on Saturday.
Byrne would not have conceded 5 based on the highlight clips imo.
Baines wouldn’t be in my starting XI either, the titanic turned quicker than he does
Perhaps, but to single Mee out on Saturday when the lads in front of him threw it in for the final 20 minutes is very unfair.
that's the one thing I can't stand in football . Lack of effort. I can forgive if someone is not quite good enough but tries but not the other way round
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Followed the game on Twitter and just read the match report and Colclough has not had a mention, this is very worrying.
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Followed the game on Twitter and just read the match report and Colclough has not had a mention, this is very worrying.
Ryan was quiet in the first & last quarter of the game, but was our most influential player during the middle two quarters, particularly the second quarter.
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Followed the game on Twitter and just read the match report and Colclough has not had a mention, this is very worrying.
Ryan was quiet in the first & last quarter of the game, but was our most influential player during the middle two quarters, particularly the second quarter.
Sure it was his shot that was looping into the top corner until their keeper got his fingertips to it at 1-1?
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Followed the game on Twitter and just read the match report and Colclough has not had a mention, this is very worrying.
Ryan was quiet in the first & last quarter of the game, but was our most influential player during the middle two quarters, particularly the second quarter.
Sure it was his shot that was looping into the top corner until their keeper got his fingertips to it at 1-1?
That was Lundstram's
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Those of us listening RR heard the issue from Jordan Hulme, who said it started from the front with no one tracking back.
He was somewhat exasperated!!!!