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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: oneedham on September 19, 2010, 04:02:41 PM
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Can we not terminate Twiss contract as mutual consent. We need Dale back, mistake letting him go !!! McCarthy as posted not long ago will not bang them in !!!!
I hope I eat my words but I think it Heathcote going willl be a mistake, because yesterday is a sh*t way to step it up for a new manager
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Agree he might not be a goalscorer but his awareness and touch is class
How about bringing Peter Doran and Adam Carden back,miles better than anything we have in the midfield.
By the way Crowell might aswell stay in wales on tuesday,he is more useful up there,the lad in terrible
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Yeah lets get another player in with no heart.
He was informed that Hyde had come in for him and he took the easy option and bolted.
How about bringing in a player who has never played for us before?
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Dot be stupid Dale is not a conference national player you pleb!! Get a new player in with guts who wants to progress in the football world!!
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Any player who comes into the club now needs the right attitude or it will simply be a waste of a signing.
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Can we not terminate Twiss contract as mutual consent. We need Dale back, mistake letting him go !!! McCarthy as posted not long ago will not bang them in !!!!
I hope I eat my words but I think it Heathcote going willl be a mistake, because yesterday is a sh*t way to step it up for a new manager
And neither would Dale
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don't think we could afford to pay off twiss / josephs / crowell - already had to fork out for GH - the cupboard is bare :-\ :'(
Loan players it'll have to be
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He should still be here imo, there's a lot worse out there on his wages, stevenage offered him a full time contract before his injury so there was something there
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He should still be here imo, there's a lot worse out there on his wages, stevenage offered him a full time contract before his injury so there was something there
To the best of my knowledge he was given the choice Jacko, told of the interest Hyde had in him and opted to go there on the same money.
We didnt stand in his way because if a player will go that easily he isnt committed and on paper it allowed is to free up a wage, probable to pay Hewson and/or Mccarthy I would have thought.
Therefore the decision was made by him. And he took the easy option.
Of course thats up to him but if thats the kind of player he was (and he was well looked after during his injury and given the best treatment we could) then he isnt going to be one to lead the fight.
That said, I would consider Doran coming back. Rough and tough players who will not lie down or hide are what we need at the moment.
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The fact that he is scoring for hyde proves how much poorer a league that is, mccarthy would have a field day, as would reeves
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Shelmers - next home game, feel free to call me a plebe to my face, the forum is about opinions not to abuse people !!!
And in my opinion Dale is conference level, he wasn't give the chance after his injury, didn't he only start one or two games ? and he was one of our 3 goalscorers. I also heard that he went to Hyde because he knew we were looking at other strikers and wanted to play regular football after his injury, which as a footballer makes sense, play or sit on a bench urmmmmm let me think !!!!
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He should still be here imo, there's a lot worse out there on his wages, stevenage offered him a full time contract before his injury so there was something there
To the best of my knowledge he was given the choice Jacko, told of the interest Hyde had in him and opted to go there on the same money. If this the case then I agree but it might not be
We didnt stand in his way because if a player will go that easily he isnt committed and on paper it allowed is to free up a wage, probable to pay Hewson and/or Mccarthy I would have thought.
Therefore the decision was made by him. And he took the easy option.
Of course thats up to him but if thats the kind of player he was (and he was well looked after during his injury and given the best treatment we could) then he isnt going to be one to lead the fight.
That said, I would consider Doran coming back. Rough and tough players who will not lie down or hide are what we need at the moment.
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Twiss is a proven goalscorer and should be able to do a job. I've not seen him recently but if he's as unfit as said then firstly he needs to answer to the club as to why and secondly if he's on a contract he needs to fulfill his part and be match or at least now physically fit. If he can't do that then surely his contract is broken by not being in a condition to fulfill it?
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Dale Johnson is not the answer. End of thread.
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Didn't Doran choose to go for more money? In which case, no point wishing him back really. And it would seem Dale has found his level for now, he wasn't able to cut it week in week out even before his injury. A great shame because his best was really good but we only saw it a handful of times. Twiss should be in the gym at gunpoint till he's fit! I keep watching the You Tube footage of his Morecambe days and if he could reproduce 50% of that he could be a star for us
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dont think any of our players have cut it tbh they all look bsn at the moment
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Let's be honest about this for one moment. Michael Twiss has got enough in him to save our season. Can he be bothered? I don't know the man, or what or may not have happened behind the scenes, but atm his past excellent reputation is being murdered. No point holding him at gunpoint in the gym. What Ecky says about Dale, applies to Michael Twiss too - if he can be bothered, then he must stand up to the mark...or go.
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I was a little concerned about Twiss when he went on loan to Stalybridge at the end of last season and couldn't get into THEIR team. As soon as I clapped eyes on him pre-season and clocked the amount of timber he was carrying that concern increased.
IF - and it's a BIG if - he gets himself fit, then he's obviously a quality player. Unfortunately an unfit quality player can't possibly live up to his reputation. I've got this horrible feeling that he's going to milk that two year contract for every penny he can squeeze out of the club. "Last Decent Payday Syndrome".
Reading this Michael ? Then PLEASE prove me wrong, sort yourself out, and become an Alty Legend like Colin Little ! I know you've got in you - take pride in yourself and show us what you can REALLY do.
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I still refuse to write him off without seeing with my own eyes in 2-3 games that he does not have what it takes.
However the fact (he may have been injured bit I didnt hear that) the Kenny didnt even take him to Eastbourne could speak volumes for what he has seen of him.
I pray I am wrong.
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I have to say this constant urging for the club to get back players who were released really is a negative step IMO... Say what you like about the present and recently past managers but they know the players a damm sight better than we do..
Dale was released due to his lack of goals and ambition...
Colin Little retired after he himself admitted last season that he wasnt able to compete at this level any longer (after being a fantastic striker and team man for the club). Im all for him coaching the present crop of strikers as and when possible, but as for playing for us again ?? Not so sure about that .. I dont think it is fair to him for us to expect him to come on for 40 minutes in the expectation that he can score goals...
There must be some players out there who are good enough (and affordable) who could play for us.
Look forward not backwards.... Onwards and definitely fkn upwards...
Cmon ALTY.
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I have to say this constant urging for the club to get back players who were released really is a negative step IMO... Say what you like about the present and recently past managers but they know the players a damm sight better than we do..
Dale was released due to his lack of goals and ambition...
Colin Little retired after he himself admitted last season that he wasnt able to compete at this level any longer (after being a fantastic striker and team man for the club). Im all for him coaching the present crop of strikers as and when possible, but as for playing for us again ?? Not so sure about that .. I dont think it is fair to him for us to expect him to come on for 40 minutes in the expectation that he can score goals...
There must be some players out there who are good enough (and affordable) who could play for us.
Look forward not backwards.... Onwards and definitely fkn upwards...
Cmon ALTY.
I agree, i mentioned a week or two ago that bringing back Little, I thought, was a bad idea...
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Players like twiss with no ambition to get fit is our problem not dale
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People have to realise that there is a very small amount of players out there what may be good enough for the conference but our wages are that low ( because they have to be ) that they choose other clubs. Also a gem only comes around every few years from lower divisions because the standard in the conference is now so high. The reason I said bring back Dale is because just before he got injured he was destroying defences and everyone must agree on that, plus it isn't always about scoring, he would take the tall defender out of a build up or most times when he was really on form it would take two defenders to get the ball off him. When we pump the ball forward or play it in the box at the moment there is no -one that wins it OR causes any mayhem. Dale at least was very very strong with good close control, people who come on here don't see the bigger picture. I am writing these concerns because without a fit Chris Denham then we are doomed, no two ways about it. Also I think we need to bring Little back for home games, no other forward we have gets in the positions he does and thats experience. People must understand that this club may have to go backwards sometimes because we can not afford or attract the quality neeeded. As for Tues, i would throw Col straight into the team and see what happens !!!!
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i want dale back, i believe this because of the lack of talent currently at the club. dale always put a shift in for us and i think he would help us out this rut!
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dale was a player that shown class at times, but his scoring record was pretty poor.
we need an out and out goal scorer, i hope twiss can fill them boots!
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We need kenny or whoever the next manager is to make a fresh approach,bring in his own players,his own style of players,and not revisit the same mundane players when they happen to leave....
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The past does not equal the future, as someone once said.
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We need kenny or whoever the next manager is to make a fresh approach,bring in his own players,his own style of players,and not revisit the same mundane players when they happen to leave....
Absolutely agree, there is no point dwelling on players who have moved on.
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Quote from oneedham
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People have to realise that there is a very small amount of players out there what may be good enough for the conference but our wages are that low ( because they have to be ) that they choose other clubs. Also a gem only comes around every few years from lower divisions because the standard in the conference is now so high. The reason I said bring back Dale is because just before he got injured he was destroying defences and everyone must agree on that, plus it isn't always about scoring, he would take the tall defender out of a build up or most times when he was really on form it would take two defenders to get the ball off him. When we pump the ball forward or play it in the box at the moment there is no -one that wins it OR causes any mayhem. Dale at least was very very strong with good close control, people who come on here don't see the bigger picture.
If I recall correctly you were constsntly slagging off Joe O'neil. If you substitute his name for Dale in the above quote you have an accurate description of both. Please tell me why one is slagged and the other hero worshiped.
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As previously stated I do not want Dale back for his goal scoring record but simply because he can bully defenders. Joe O'Neil was pure sh*t, simple as, he was crap !!! everyone has forgot that before he was injured that we use to chant his name, people said that Dale coming back from injury would be like a new signing and he got what? 3 games ??? scoring one goal !!! people baffle me, we give the likes of Joseph a lot of games and he is one of the worst defenders I have seen at the club. Dale was not given the chance after injury, his presence caused trouble and the likes of Reeves and Denham will pick up the pieces !!!! why should McCarthy stay??? played more games tehn Dale and hasn't scored???? Its obvious we need s fresh start but what with??? what players are available at our cost????
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And I did not put those stupid faces on my post !!!!!