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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: adambaje the robin 14 on November 13, 2009, 09:13:49 PM
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Now im not sure if there was something else to do with it, but i just dont understand what graham heathcote thinks he is doing. Im not saying i know everything behind the scenes but why on earth did graham decide to release antonio bryan, a player who played for manchester united youth team, a very good prospect, and graham decided not to play him. He could have kept him for a season then sold him, for a decent amount of money. It was the same with carlos logan, he didnt get played and he moved on to barrow, now look at him, ppl are saying that he could be on his way to an unnamed league 2 team.
Please post what you think about it, maybe telling me something i didnt know about this, any post welcome :-\
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The word 'attitude' springs to mind!
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he played him once against oxford adam
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why on earth did graham decide to release antonio bryan,
Probably for the same reason Taggart did - his attitude wasn't right.
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Well maybe his attitude wasnt right and graham didnt want him but wat i cant understand is the reason he released him adn didnt try and force a sale because many teams would want an ex man utd player in there side. Even if it wasnt a lot of money, its still some to add to our transfer budget, but he keeps releasing people and then we cant get any new faces in. I dont know :-\
And also does anyone know what is the "fashion" of one month contracts and non contract terms because alty seem to do a lot of them
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And also does anyone know what is the "fashion" of one month contracts and non contract terms because alty seem to do a lot of them
They are a good idea because they stop clubs like Alty from getting lumbered with people who are not good enough/not committed enough to the cause. People like Antonio Bryan.
See, it all begins to make sense when you think about it......
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yes i know where you are coming from, and not many ppl are and it is a good idea, but when there is someone who comes along and is good, someone will be able to see the talent and snap him up before alty can even touch him, adn what i am getting at is that alty need to be quicker at recognizing potential otherwise they wont get anywhere
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That's the chance you take when you don't have much money I suppose.
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yes i know where you are coming from, and not many ppl are and it is a good idea, but when there is someone who comes along and is good, someone will be able to see the talent and snap him up before alty can even touch him, adn what i am getting at is that alty need to be quicker at recognizing potential otherwise they wont get anywhere
Are you Antonio Bryan?
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i suppose.
Does anyone think of an idea that alty could do to recognize the potential. Do people think the board should maybe put a bit more money into the club, maybe just for scouting??? please tell me what you think
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If you'd showed a bit of willing on tuesday,you might have got a gig,i showed more willing than you,and it cost me a tenner! This is altrincham fc, not the red lion sunday side.
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mate what are you talkin about i went to the game on tuesday, ive been to every home game this season, ive been to mansfield ,barrow adn oxford away so u cant say anythin mate
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To be fair bud amount of games you have been to means cock all. And don't argue with hughesy about things like that as he has probably been to more games/the same amount as most people here.
I didn't see the guy play so i can't comment. That is not because I didnt want to, being a long way away is a major factor. In the past 6 seasons i have had a season ticket, and been to a hell of a lot of away games. Justbecause i have missed most games this year doesn't mean i can't disregard what you say as total bollocks, especially when there are people on here that i know/talk to/ used to see fairly regularly who also give match reports/ updates/ opinions/ thoughts about certain players who i would listen to over you.
Sort it out son.
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Hughsey is joking about you being Antonio Bryan...keep up
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I saw Bryan at Oxford and he was a total waste of space - and I got criticised on this forum for judging a player on one game. Graham will know if his attitude was a problem or not.
Logan was useless when he played for us. Sometimes good players just dont fit into certain teams (and I am not saying that I classify Logan as a good player).
The classic was Diego Forlan - top goalscorer when Independiente won the Argentine title, a flop at United, then top scorer in La Liga for the two seasons after he left OT.
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That is the first and last time Carlos Logan and Antonio Bryan will ever be compared to Diego Forlan.
I thought Bryan was a bit lightweight for us. Weve got Chris Denham who can do a much better job, and Senior can operate on the flanks too. We need a striker and on our budget I very much doubt we can afford the luxury of giving Antonio Bryan a contract in the hope that he can be sold next year.
We had Tierney last year and he had top pedigree but he didnt give us anything better than what we had, so whats the point in unsettling a fragile squad? Get rid and use the money for someone else.
I must say, another defender isnt what I had in mind.
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Adam, it isn't as simple as that, a club like we are at this time just simply doesnt have the money to go flashing round contracts to every Tom Dick or Antonio that turns up. If you want to see something like this happening, try dipping into your pocket at collection time.
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Attitude is key to our team, on paper we don't have the funds to compete skill wise so a positive get stuck in attitude is a must for every player, we must have players who can dig in and look to get a good result away such as rushden, oxford etc.
I can deny rumours that I am also Antonio Bryan.
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Unfortunatly we can't afford to have players sitting in reserve on a contract with a bad attitude hoping we can get more than we have paid for them in a years time....which is a gamble.
We need players who can do a job for us now.
If we want a transfer fee we have to put them on a contract which means they have to be paid weekly whether they play or not and they have to be under contract when we sell them, and we can't afford to do that and chances are no-one will want them until they'll just walk away at the end of the contract as players out of contract available on a free are ten a penny at various times the problem them becomes their wages.
Does that makes things clearer?...this isn't football manager 09 you know! this is a real club with directors who do a very good job and we have no divine right to expect them to put money into the club..that's the dinosaur way and leads to horrendous problems.
I also am not antonio.....but I have been mistaken for Denis Irwin in the past.
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Unfortunatly we can't afford to have lambs sitting in reserve on a contract with a bad attitude hoping we can get them to frolick in a field in a years time....which is a gambol.
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Unfortunatly we can't afford to have lambs sitting in reserve on a contract with a bad attitude hoping we can get them to frolick in a field in a years time....which is a gambol.
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Baa, another woolly minded Liberal.
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Unfortunatly we can't afford to have lambs sitting in reserve on a contract with a bad attitude hoping we can get them to frolick in a field in a years time....which is a gambol.
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Baa, another woolly minded Liberal.
The irony is Jennifer's Mum is the Liberal Councillor in the family - or, as I call her, "A namby pamby Guardian reading Pinko Liberal!"
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We had Tierney last year and he had top pedigree but he didnt give us anything better than what we had,
Indeed, and whilst Aaron Burns has played well in parts (I like him but can see why some don't) and Scott Moffat put a reasonable shift in against Chester the lads we have picked up from Man Utd over the years have been ineffective to say the least. Whether this is attitude or just being put into the treu harsh world of professional open age football, I don't know. Maybe they just aren't good enough, hence why Utd released them. Michael Twiss is the only one who I can think off who actually went on to do well, him and Rosey.
Ben Williams did well at Crewe somehow, Dave Gardner and Kirk Hilton did ok for us I guess.
Bryan, Tierney, Marc Whiteman, Mark Rawlinson,
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Aaron Burns was at United untill he was 18 i think
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the reason they dont prefrom well could be the huge change in style. we see this all the time in cups the lower level opposition playing a much more physical game and they dont like it so coming from a premier club to us takes a lot of adapting and the whole attitude could play a part as they will just give up and move on