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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on September 09, 2016, 09:33:34 AM
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Park the bus.
0-0
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Can't see it. We've scored and conceded in all of our 8 games so far.
I hope Jack Jolly is coming as I've asked the bar to get in extra Jaegermeister. ;D
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Another demand tutu
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Can't see it. We've scored and conceded in all of our 8 games so far.
I hope Jack Jolly is coming as I've asked the bar to get in extra Jaegermeister. ;D
I think he's in Cape Verde.
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Can't see it. We've scored and conceded in all of our 8 games so far.
I hope Jack Jolly is coming as I've asked the bar to get in extra Jaegermeister. ;D
Apart from Fylde, Gainsborough and Kidderminster
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Patterson----Heathcote--------Cyrus-------Moran-------Lynch
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--------------------------------Reeves---Lawrie
1-1
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Can't see it. We've scored and conceded in all of our 8 games so far.
I hope Jack Jolly is coming as I've asked the bar to get in extra Jaegermeister. ;D
Apart from Fylde, Gainsborough and Kidderminster
Dave supports Gloucester Ballers
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Can't see it. We've scored and conceded in all of our 8 games so far.
I hope Jack Jolly is coming as I've asked the bar to get in extra Jaegermeister. ;D
I think he's in Cape Verde.
jolly buying jager? Are thier 2 Jack jollys?
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Can't see it. We've scored and conceded in all of our 8 games so far.
I hope Jack Jolly is coming as I've asked the bar to get in extra Jaegermeister. ;D
Hi Dave. Great news about your ground getting approval, finally :o !
I think it will be high scoring, we cant defend but can score and you the same.
3-3 it is then !
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3-2 Alty, here we come!
Harvey's army!
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Not too optimistic about this one. Much will depend on who is available. We'll probably need 2 goals (possibly 3) just to draw.
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Can't see it. We've scored and conceded in all of our 8 games so far.
I hope Jack Jolly is coming as I've asked the bar to get in extra Jaegermeister. ;D
Hi Dave. Great news about your ground getting approval, finally :o !
I think it will be high scoring, we cant defend but can score and you the same.
3-3 it is then !
Cheers matey. Just got to build the bugger now!
Be delighted with 4 points from the next 4 days, so 3-3 will be fine if you can promise we'll beat Nunny in our game in hand on Tuesday.
Got a coach coming down tomorrow? Looking forward to having a beer with a few familiar faces after your sabbatical with the big boys! :)
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I thought we were playing Nuneaton on Tuesday..?
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I thought we were playing Nuneaton on Tuesday..?
I hope so I've got train tickets
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My bad. We've got Teflon.
Nuneaton are the Tuesday after!
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Dave - we do have a coach booked tho' how many are on it I don't know - there weren't that many names down on Tuesday, to be honest. There'll be some making their own way by car or train, too. Hope the promised rain has gone by the time we get there! As to the game - God alone knows what the score will be - it shouldn't be goalless, but that probably means it will be! I'm just hoping for a continuation of the improved effort shown in the last few games; hopefully the core of the team will be as in the last two games, as it helps not to have to introduce the players to one another before the kick-off.
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Fancy us to win by the odd goal in 3
Reeves and Lawrie,
Hope to make the Nuneaton game
C'mon Harvey's Heroes....
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Dave - we do have a coach booked tho' how many are on it I don't know - there weren't that many names down on Tuesday, to be honest. There'll be some making their own way by car or train, too. Hope the promised rain has gone by the time we get there! As to the game - God alone knows what the score will be - it shouldn't be goalless, but that probably means it will be! I'm just hoping for a continuation of the improved effort shown in the last few games; hopefully the core of the team will be as in the last two games, as it helps not to have to introduce the players to one another before the kick-off.
Well safe journey down. I'm like a stuck record saying it, but the bar is in the carpark outside the ground, so it pays to either pay get in and get a pass to go out and have a beer when you arrive, or buy a ticket in the bar (someone will be walking around).
That way you can stroll straight in the big gate rather than having to join the queue to get in when everyone piles out of the bar at 2.58pm.
I'm going for 3-3 too. 40/1 with B365! :)
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It's either a Desmond or a three two Alty win.
Oh yes.
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5-0 :)
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It's either a Desmond or a three two Alty win.
Oh yes.
Erm...
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5-0 :)
fab prediction ...
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I said 0-0 so half right!
Believe it was worse than Fylde.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2AIUzwtmQQ&feature=youtu.be&a
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What an utter total EFFIN shambles. >:( >:( >:(
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Defending looked abysmal, how can a six foot lump of man (Hattersley) get pushed of the ball so easily for the 5th. Awful.
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OMG, sayng no more.
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Woeful we are in real trouble here
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Just seen the goals.
Its just a total embarassment.
We dont look fit, we cant do the basics, and worse of all on the 2nd goal which sums up the whole season theres a pathetic lack of effort at putting pressure on the man on the ball. There are actually people on that pitch not even trying their full physical best on at least 3 of the goals in front of a new manager.
Im shocked.
Whats going on? Braintree in April was supposed to be the embarassing low.
Afc fylde should have been 10 nil, this looks the same.
why are we so slow at closing down players on the ball? Please can the players explain it. It would be baffling in an under 15 game. Are we chronically less fit than every opponent we have played. Genuine question.
We havent remotely deserved to win any of the ten games so theres not even any element of hard luck about it. Infact i think we have had the rub of the green to be on 4 pts not 1 or 2 pts.
I never write posts this critical. Ive not even had a whisky. I just cant believe in front of a new manager they dont put pressure on the man on the ball. Do most of them not realise they are already dead in Jim harveys eyes now and some will never play at this level or size of club again. Its now already too late for them cos theyve failed the character test on day one. Has there not been any barometer check on players fitness, players character and recent form before they are signed/selected?? 37 years supporting and shell shocked, not by defeats or by league positions or players who arent good enough, but by the sheer lack of commitment and fighting spirit.
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Just seen the goals.
Its just a total embarassment.
We dont look fit, we cant do the basics, and worse of all on the 2nd goal which sums up the whole season theres a pathetic lack of effort at putting pressure on the man on the ball. There are actually people on that pitch not even trying their full physical best on at least 3 of the goals in front of a new manager.
Im shocked.
Whats going on? Braintree in April was supposed to be the embarassing low.
Afc fylde should have been 10 nil, this looks the same.
why are we so slow at closing down players on the ball? Please can the players explain it. It would be baffling in an under 15 game. Are we chronically less fit than every opponent we have played. Genuine question.
We havent remotely deserved to win any of the ten games so theres not even any element of hard luck about it. Infact i think we have had the rub of the green to be on 4 pts not 1 or 2 pts.
I never write posts this critical. Ive not even had a whisky. I just cant believe in front of a new manager they dont put pressure on the man on the ball. Do most of them not realise they are already dead in Jim harveys eyes now and some will never play at this level or size of club again. Its now already too late for them cos theyve failed the character test on day one. Has there not been any barometer check on players fitness, players character and recent form before they are signed/selected?? 37 years supporting and shell shocked, not by defeats or by league positions or players who arent good enough, but by the sheer lack of commitment and fighting spirit.
a great post . I've always said I don't mind losing if players try and give 100% some of these players are a disgrace to the shirt. Disgusting
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I can't even bring myself to watch the goals. I've seen lean times at this club before, and God knows some awful players have worn the shirt since I first hit Moss Lane in 1956, but I actually feel more depressed now than at any time in the last 60 years. We have players out there who would struggle to hold down a place in a decent Sunday League team. Confidence is non-existent, but then there's practically zero squad mentality in the rag bag of players that we have at present, fitness seems a major issue, and they probably crap themselvessel half an hour before we kick off each time. A goals conceded figure of practically three goals per game tells its own story.
Jim Harvey is a proven firefighter but right now we need Red Adair. If Jim doesn't sort out this mess it certainly won't be for lack of trying, but it's an unenviable task.
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Im off to watch my 7 yr old grandson play shortly.
I can guarantee that their commitment and effort will be greater than that of some of the current crop of players we have at Alty.
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Oh dear me.
You can't give players a heart .
Desperately need Cyrus and Hannigan back.
Going to be a long and horrible season.
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Strange old league this season. When we came up it seemed odd travelling to the likes of your place and Chester etc. It felt like we'd drawn a big club in the FA Cup. Genuinely feel like we can beat anyone now, but yesterday was one of those days when everything just clicked. What seemed so peculiar was your total lack of urgency. When the third went in, it just seemed like the majority just gave up.
JH knows his stuff, and I'm sure he'll turn it around.
See you in January!
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Oh dear me.
You can't give players a heart .
Desperately need Cyrus and Hannigan back.
Going to be a long and horrible season.
a bit like last season 😐😐😐
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Latest season was going quite well up to the Colchester loss
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I can take struggling in NL because its virtually a full time league with some very god teams.
This league is a million miles below.
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With the clubs that are in the NLN this season, it certainly isnt a million miles worse than the NL. Its probably the strongest its been since its formation in 2005.
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With the clubs that are in the NLN this season, it certainly isnt a million miles worse than the NL. Its probably the strongest its been since its formation in 2005.
no its not the quality is sh*t, worse than 2005 and many times worse than 2014
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The following clubs in the Bananarama North appear either (a) to have a larger fan base than ourselves, therefore generating more match-day income; (b) to be bankrolled; or (c) both of these.
AFC Fykle; Salford City; Harrogate Town; Kidderminster; Darlington; FC Halifax Town; Stockport County; AFC Telford United; FCUM. Chorley & Boston United might also qualify. It is therefore hardly surprising that a 'top half' position in this league would be quite a reasonable achievement. Given our present position, of course, any position starting with a 1 will be entirely acceptable come next April. To suggest that this is a weak league seems to me at the very least dubious on financial grounds alone - and at least one of the sides I've seen this season would have beaten a large number of last season's National division clubs.
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The following clubs in the Bananarama North appear either (a) to have a larger fan base than ourselves, therefore generating more match-day income; (b) to be bankrolled; or (c) both of these.
AFC Fykle; Salford City; Harrogate Town; Kidderminster; Darlington; FC Halifax Town; Stockport County; AFC Telford United; FCUM. Chorley & Boston United might also qualify. It is therefore hardly surprising that a 'top half' position in this league would be quite a reasonable achievement. Given our present position, of course, any position starting with a 1 will be entirely acceptable come next April. To suggest that this is a weak league seems to me at the very least dubious on financial grounds alone - and at least one of the sides I've seen this season would have beaten a large number of last season's National division clubs.
since when has fan base equalled quality in this league? Were Stockport or Halifax or Darlington good teams?
Incidentally we have a top six budget as well
Please continue to make excuses for failure but it belies your experience as a long standing and knowledgable supporter
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How sure are we that Telford, Boston and even Stockport enjoy more substantial budgets than us?
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Haven't heard anyone say we have a top six budget , top eight has been mentioned but that was speculation.
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As Mike rightly points out, fan base size generates income....hence one would expect the Halifaxes and Darlingtons of this world to have a higher income stream and more financial clout than the Stalybridges and (unfortunately) Altrinchams.
I've observed before that our expectations of regular National League football are overly optimistic. And whilst the current mess in which we find ourselves is unacceptable on any number of levels, we will do well to avoid the drop this year.
Maybe we can get back to trying to punch above our weight by 2019.
All the whingeing and complaining won't help a jot....unless we know of somebody who wants to throw obscent amounts of moolah at us we'd better all grit our teeth and accept the situation. And trust in the board, because they're all we've got.
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As Mike rightly points out, fan base size generates income....hence one would expect the Halifaxes and Darlingtons of this world to have a higher income stream and more financial clout than the Stalybridges and (unfortunately) Altrinchams.
but those clubs don't have the golden egg of a community centre generating funds for them? I thought the community centre was a about legacy? The only legacy I see is that funds have been diverted from football to community and now the clubs on its arse
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I've observed before that our expectations of regular National League football are overly optimistic.
tell that to Dover, Braintree and FGR, why can we not have similar expectations?
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Maybe we can get back to trying to punch above our weight by 2019.
hang on, your saying we're punching above our weight in the conference north?
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As Mike rightly points out, fan base size generates income....hence one would expect the Halifaxes and Darlingtons of this world to have a higher income stream and more financial clout than the Stalybridges and (unfortunately) Altrinchams.
I've observed before that our expectations of regular National League football are overly optimistic. And whilst the current mess in which we find ourselves is unacceptable on any number of levels, we will do well to avoid the drop this year.
Maybe we can get back to trying to punch above our weight by 2019.
All the whingeing and complaining won't help a jot....unless we know of somebody who wants to throw obscent amounts of moolah at us we'd better all grit our teeth and accept the situation. And trust in the board, because they're all we've got.
'Accept the situation'? We are 21st in the Conference North! This time last year we were about to beat Barnsley in the Fa Cup having beaten Cheltenham, Grimsby and Tranmere in league matches. This club shouldn't accept being in a relegation battle in this league it should be highlighted as what it is. A complete shambles that needs sorting by any means possible, not accepting.
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As Mike rightly points out, fan base size generates income....hence one would expect the Halifaxes and Darlingtons of this world to have a higher income stream and more financial clout than the Stalybridges and (unfortunately) Altrinchams.
I've observed before that our expectations of regular National League football are overly optimistic. And whilst the current mess in which we find ourselves is unacceptable on any number of levels, we will do well to avoid the drop this year.
Maybe we can get back to trying to punch above our weight by 2019.
All the whingeing and complaining won't help a jot....unless we know of somebody who wants to throw obscent amounts of moolah at us we'd better all grit our teeth and accept the situation. And trust in the board, because they're all we've got.
Is that a serious comment? Really? Trust in the same board that has got us in this mess and the same board that goes to the national press slagging off it's loyal supporters??!!
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Maybe we can get back to trying to punch above our weight by 2019.
hang on, your saying we're punching above our weight in the conference north?
No...I'm saying we aim for National by 2019.
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I've observed before that our expectations of regular National League football are overly optimistic.
tell that to Dover, Braintree and FGR, why can we not have similar expectations?
Forest Green are bankrolled. Braintree had one lucky season. Dover will be down in South by the time we get back up.
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As Mike rightly points out, fan base size generates income....hence one would expect the Halifaxes and Darlingtons of this world to have a higher income stream and more financial clout than the Stalybridges and (unfortunately) Altrinchams.
I've observed before that our expectations of regular National League football are overly optimistic. And whilst the current mess in which we find ourselves is unacceptable on any number of levels, we will do well to avoid the drop this year.
Maybe we can get back to trying to punch above our weight by 2019.
All the whingeing and complaining won't help a jot....unless we know of somebody who wants to throw obscent amounts of moolah at us we'd better all grit our teeth and accept the situation. And trust in the board, because they're all we've got.
Is that a serious comment? Really? Trust in the same board that has got us in this mess and the same board that goes to the national press slagging off it's loyal supporters??!!
See the words "all we've got" please. Unless you can magic up a whole new board ?
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As Mike rightly points out, fan base size generates income....hence one would expect the Halifaxes and Darlingtons of this world to have a higher income stream and more financial clout than the Stalybridges and (unfortunately) Altrinchams.
I've observed before that our expectations of regular National League football are overly optimistic. And whilst the current mess in which we find ourselves is unacceptable on any number of levels, we will do well to avoid the drop this year.
Maybe we can get back to trying to punch above our weight by 2019.
All the whingeing and complaining won't help a jot....unless we know of somebody who wants to throw obscent amounts of moolah at us we'd better all grit our teeth and accept the situation. And trust in the board, because they're all we've got.
'Accept the situation'? We are 21st in the Conference North! This time last year we were about to beat Barnsley in the Fa Cup having beaten Cheltenham, Grimsby and Tranmere in league matches. This club shouldn't accept being in a relegation battle in this league it should be highlighted as what it is. A complete shambles that needs sorting by any means possible, not accepting.
Accept that this is the situation NOW !! We don't have to like it....but we have to do what we can to improve it ASAP. Moaning about where we are won't help. Get a shovel and shift some sh*t if you can.....or find people equipped to do so.
WE WILL SURVIVE AND COME BACK STRONGER. And if you don't have that belief we might as well lock the ground up and watch Sky.
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but those clubs don't have the golden egg of a community centre generating funds for them? I thought the community centre was a about legacy? The only legacy I see is that funds have been diverted from football to community and now the clubs on its arse
You dont half write some constant drivel on here Jamie - this delusional train of thought that somewhere the football club is putting money into the CSH - just where on earth does this come from.
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Romeo, many of us don't have that belief anymore. I don't
I won't accept the current situation and never will. The fact that some do doesn't help the situation, or maybe you agree with everything this cretin of a chairman has said or done these last few months?
We all need to look a long look at ourselves in the mirror and ask what do I stand for, what will I accept and for long can I appease
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but those clubs don't have the golden egg of a community centre generating funds for them? I thought the community centre was a about legacy? The only legacy I see is that funds have been diverted from football to community and now the clubs on its arse
You dont half write some constant drivel on here Jamie - this delusional train of thought that somewhere the football club is putting money into the CSH - just where on earth does this come from.
well all fundraising has been diverted to the community club. When was the last time the football club had a fundraiser?
I thought the idea was that the community club was supposed to be generating funds to go into the football club? If not what's the point in it?
So how much money has it put in to football club to date? The playing budget seems to get smaller each year since it opened
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FFS can we stop blaming all sorts of complete nonsense for the current mess please.
The budget has not been reduced by the CSH, it has been poorly spent by NY.
We did not loose 5-0 at Gloucester because the chairman spoke to a journalist - it was because our players are sh*te and that is because we made a mistake in appointing NY
We are not in this mess because the board did not sack NY, by the time we (the majority of fans) realised he was a clueless buffoon with no idea what he was doing he had already released Havern, Deasey, etc, failed to keep Leather and signed a load of rubbish some of which didn't even make it through pre-season before disappearing.
The absolute mess we find ourselves in is 95% down to appointing NY, which did not seem a mad decision at the time, and the complete failure of NY in the transfer market. This is no longer an issue and so we now need to pull together and be patient while JH tries to fix it for us.
All this taking pot shots at everything else in the club, hoping that somehow changing the board / press releases / colour of paint in the bogs / will miraculously make our team any good is utterly pointless at best and destabilising and insulting to fans, players and volunteers at the club at worst.
Everyone knows what state we are in so either come up with something constructive to help or shut the **** up!
Rant over
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Spot-on, Bath Alty.
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Here we go again. It appears Tolson and Young appointed themselves!
To be honest, I'm not all for having a go at the chairman, it would however be nice to hear him contrite every now and again and it would be even nicer to have some more up-to-date information re. the injury/contract situations (especially now).
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Well said, Bath Alty; spot on, Romeo 48. Nice to read some people actually talking sense on here - a pleasant change from the normal state of affairs!
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With the clubs that are in the NLN this season, it certainly isnt a million miles worse than the NL. Its probably the strongest its been since its formation in 2005.
no its not the quality is sh*t, worse than 2005 and many times worse than 2014
That isn't true.
Fylde will probably win the league this year by playing teams off the park, in 2014 it was won by a piss poor Telford side. That tells you everything you need to know about the teams in the league for the 2013/14 season, especially ourselves, because with the squad we had we should have pissed it.
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The absolute mess we find ourselves in is 95% down to appointing NY, which did not seem a mad decision at the time, and the complete failure of NY in the transfer market.
Yes but in fairness, at least 75% of this forum were advocating 'get rid of the lot of them' at the end of last season, which anyone who has watched football at any level knows is absolute sheer lunacy. I'm just glad we'll think twice before we ever think about adopting a similar tactic again.
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Having just listened to the interview by Flynnie with Jim Harvey after the match... Thankfully Jim realises what a crock of sh*t he has at his disposal and hasn't given the regulation (I thought we played well and were unlucky) quote.
Jim seems to be a realist and that will do for me, he now realises what a job he has and I now look forward to him getting about his tough job and sorting this mess out..
Ive read tons of posts on here about ex managers, players and board members over the last 18 months and for me the problem all stems back to this time last year when we had all those big injuries to key players and basically f**k all was done to rectify the problem of having a smaller squad because of it.
Had that problem been rectified there and then I am convinced we would still be in the National League and all this bollocks we are now witnessing would not have taken place,
I will be at Nuneaton tomorrow and I sincerely hope plenty of you folks can get there if for nothing else but to support Jim Harvey..
rant over
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The absolute mess we find ourselves in is 95% down to appointing NY, which did not seem a mad decision at the time, and the complete failure of NY in the transfer market.
Yes but in fairness, at least 75% of this forum were advocating 'get rid of the lot of them' at the end of last season, which anyone who has watched football at any level knows is absolute sheer lunacy. I'm just glad we'll think twice before we ever think about adopting a similar tactic again.
how many of Ken mckenna's relegated side got us promoted? also even if some of last seasons side were good enough the last game of the season when they put no effort in the Braintree game made fans want to see the back of them.
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As Mike rightly points out, fan base size generates income....hence one would expect the Halifaxes and Darlingtons of this world to have a higher income stream and more financial clout than the Stalybridges and (unfortunately) Altrinchams.
I've observed before that our expectations of regular National League football are overly optimistic. And whilst the current mess in which we find ourselves is unacceptable on any number of levels, we will do well to avoid the drop this year.
Maybe we can get back to trying to punch above our weight by 2019.
All the whingeing and complaining won't help a jot....unless we know of somebody who wants to throw obscent amounts of moolah at us we'd better all grit our teeth and accept the situation. And trust in the board, because they're all we've got.
Is that a serious comment? Really? Trust in the same board that has got us in this mess and the same board that goes to the national press slagging off it's loyal supporters??!!
See the words "all we've got" please. Unless you can magic up a whole new board ?
I saw the words "all we've got" but that doesn't mean they should be trusted. That's like saying my wife's cheated on me but she's all I've got so I need to trust her.
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As Mike rightly points out, fan base size generates income....hence one would expect the Halifaxes and Darlingtons of this world to have a higher income stream and more financial clout than the Stalybridges and (unfortunately) Altrinchams.
I've observed before that our expectations of regular National League football are overly optimistic. And whilst the current mess in which we find ourselves is unacceptable on any number of levels, we will do well to avoid the drop this year.
Maybe we can get back to trying to punch above our weight by 2019.
All the whingeing and complaining won't help a jot....unless we know of somebody who wants to throw obscent amounts of moolah at us we'd better all grit our teeth and accept the situation. And trust in the board, because they're all we've got.
Is that a serious comment? Really? Trust in the same board that has got us in this mess and the same board that goes to the national press slagging off it's loyal supporters??!!
See the words "all we've got" please. Unless you can magic up a whole new board ?
I saw the words "all we've got" but that doesn't mean they should be trusted. That's like saying my wife's cheated on me but she's all I've got so I need to trust her.
Got another board? If not, we have to work with what we've got until if / when another board is in situ.