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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: ALTYGAL on May 15, 2010, 11:33:38 AM
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Greg talking to York! :-( ?????!!!!
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Is this for definate?
For f**ks sake
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Grapevine so hopefully not but there is no surprise in people being interested after the season he's just had and he's lost his car share with senior!
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Martin foyle was at one of our home matches in the stand at the end of season
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Has his course finished?
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This is shaping up to be one of the most depressing close seasons for a while - especially if he goes.
OK, I know things could be worse and we could be in the AGM cup again, or relegated, but if when we take a few steps forward, we can't keep our squad we're going to be seriously in the schstuck :(
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To be fair the 'cote said the first task would be to hang on to our best players in the face of some very tempting offers.
And that's why we didn't have a big announcement saying everyone was definetly staying.
The 'cote is going to have to do the same job all over again I'm afraid and build an amazingly good team starting with whoever does actually stay.
The only answer to this problem is for the board to work on ideas for getting some serious investment in while avoiding the maunders factor.
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To be fair the 'cote said the first task would be to hang on to our best players in the face of some very tempting offers.
And that's why we didn't have a big announcement saying everyone was definetly staying.
The 'cote is going to have to do the same job all over again I'm afraid and build an amazingly good team starting with whoever does actually stay.
The only answer to this problem is for the board to work on ideas for getting some serious investment in while avoiding the maunders factor.
You're absolutely right of course.
The only upside of all of this (if you could call it that) is that all the "we just need one or two and we'll be in the playoffs next year" b*ll*cks is now a thing of the past and we're all going to be a lot more realistic (i.e. staying up will be a result for next year)
I'm sure GH and KMc will come up trumps for us. Come on the Supers!
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Senior leaving is a shame... but Youngy going would be completely devastating.
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Why would you not have Greg on a contract knowing full well he'll have big interest over the summer. Can't begrudge him full time football but teams would surely pay big money for him.
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Why would you not have Greg on a contract knowing full well he'll have big interest over the summer. Can't begrudge him full time football but teams would surely pay big money for him.
If I remember rightly, he's just come to the end of a 2 year contract with us hasn't he?
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Oh, right. I'm just so annoyed that our two best players will both end up going on frees.
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York have been after Youngy for a long time from what I know. I think he still has some time to go on his course.
Its probably just a question of whether they will let him train less than the others.
I fully expect Youngy to leave.
I also fully expect him to be replaced. Maybe not with 100% of the quality he had but with a decent player.
Everyone of these players that walks out on us is not because we have had to shed 5 players from last years squad. Their wages will be available for someone else.
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The only answer to this problem is for the board to work on ideas for getting some serious investment in while avoiding the maunders factor.
Nail on the head there mate.
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The only bonus in all this is that it's happened before i shelled out for a season ticket. I was debating whether i could afford one or not anyway,this has convinced to save my money and spend it more wisely.
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I wonder whether Young's future is dependent on the result of the play-off final. Perhaps York will only sign him if they're still in the Conference next season?
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The only bonus in all this is that it's happened before i shelled out for a season ticket. I was debating whether i could afford one or not anyway,this has convinced to save my money and spend it more wisely.
Come on mate, thats a bit of a knee jerk reaction.
At least lets see what pre season brings and who we bring in.
Last season will be the worst thing to happen to the club in years.
Its raised the bar to high with no infrastructure in place to support the aspirations.
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Suprised that Welch was released if Young wasn't staying.
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I have just renewed my season ticket. I am not going to be devasted by the loss of some good players because all players are replaceable. Any player who wishes to go and can walk that easily obviously is not worth stopping. They do not have the club as much at heart as we previously thought, certainly not in the way we do.
What I do have faith in is the ability of Graham and Kenny to find good quality replacements and rebuild the team accordingly. Thye can rethink the budget with a mixture of experience, lower league up and coming players and hopefully the nucleas of most of our players. Please do not worry about one or two players leaving. I was not surprised. But I am sorry I said players were re-signing when I was at the party. I thought my source was reliable. He must have meant resigning!
I am sorry but I will not be despondant about this, but I look forward to who is coming in to replace them and will give my fullest support to whoever it may be. The guy from Droylsden would be one of my choices.
Also, maybe with the new commercial manager we can get some more sponsorship, or for gods sake some more bods to help our current board out. They are volounteers but they do a sterling job. I would be more worried about losing them, Graham and Kenny. Rather than players who it turns out, do not want to stay. I really think the board need more people who are like-minded to help them out.
This club has had loads of decent players in the past, and always replaced them at some stage.
Keep the faith everybody, and join me in not being despondant, becuase not one of our players is bigger than my beloved club.
Steve from Sale
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The only bonus in all this is that it's happened before i shelled out for a season ticket. I was debating whether i could afford one or not anyway,this has convinced to save my money and spend it more wisely.
Is this what you thought last close season?....why not wait and see what happens......if everyone thought this way we'd have a NWCL budget!!!
I'll be there next season whatever as I was when we had even lower expectations and knew we'd be watching players of a much worse calibre than the ones we will doubtless have when the season starts.
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The only bonus in all this is that it's happened before i shelled out for a season ticket. I was debating whether i could afford one or not anyway,this has convinced to save my money and spend it more wisely.
Well I'll be getting one (or two - one for Mrs S). This is the very time that the club needs your support.
I'm sure you're just disappointed and your comments are a knee-jerk reaction.
Take a deep breath, have a little faith and write that cheque! *
*That's what my kids are going to do for my 60th present! ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
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The only bonus in all this is that it's happened before i shelled out for a season ticket. I was debating whether i could afford one or not anyway,this has convinced to save my money and spend it more wisely.
Who ever heard of a fan who did not buy a season ticket because a player got signed by another club!!!Why would you punish the football club by giving them even less money.
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Already got my season ticket, I'm prepared to grit my teeth and get through whatever the season brings. Anything above 21st. will do for me.
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Stop talking out of your arse Altykate! It's alot more than Senior going. Young on his way and totally negative comments in the press about having a Blue Square North budget etc etc. I've just got better things to do with my money than this sh*t!
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Stop talking out of your arse Altykate! It's alot more than Senior going. Young on his way and totally negative comments in the press about having a Blue Square North budget etc etc. I've just got better things to do with my money than this sh*t!
You are, indeed, entitled to spend your hard earned wedge on whatever you want but surely you support your club through thick and thin?
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Sorry, not least because I know I'm gonna get slaughtered for this but
Yet again someone fails to toe the party line and gets villified.
People have other commitments that need funding and also have a right to decide what to do with their own money without all the criticism.
If it were someone who had no 'pedigree' as an Alty fan then maybe but to have a go at Joe is, in my view, totally out of order (Taxi Phil is exempted from this as they're related). Joe's been a steward in the past, no doubt driven the odd minibus, painted the ground, brushed water etc., and has worked tirelessly over the years for the club, never seeking public recognition for it and because he has the temerity to express concerns that no doubt a fair few share and to publicly say that there are things other than Alty that need his money perhaps more he gets sneered at.
Not on I'm afraid and you can call me as much as you like for expressing that view
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you can call me as much as you like for expressing that view
....well that's handy..................
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Im moving down sauf in the summer, so wont be around for many matches next season. However, ive still managed to renew my season ticket, as I enjoyed last season, and want to support the management and players. I also have a large economic deficit (and in talks with IMF for a bailout), so carnt give on a regulary basis.
Sorry, not least because I know I'm gonna get slaughtered for this but
Well, here we go with your righteousness again…..
Yet again someone fails to toe the party line and gets villified.
What exactly is the party line? That someone shouldn’t make a decision before knowing all the facts? Ie what players are going to come in?? What do our supporters want? to win more in BSN, or compete in BSP?? We have a smallish fan base, and limited income. We are not going to break our budget, and spend millions on rubbish (aka Wrexham). Were Altrincham, small, friendly, and part –time.
People have other commitments that need funding and also have a right to decide what to do with their own money without all the criticism.
Hell yeah, people have other commitments. I don’t think anyone has criticised any decision concerning what a person can / carnt do with their own, hard earned cash. I think the debate is about looking to the future, and what we can expect from our lads next season. Let’s not forget we have managed to bring in guys like smith, senior, young, clee, Williams, Kearney, crowell etc WITHOUT PAYING A SINGLE PENNY ON TRANSFERS. It is only time, that once they have proven themselves and gained confidence , some will move on. That is life within football. We need to have confidence in the management to bring in quality players, which will keep us in BSP.
What is it with what someone has or hasn’t done for alty over the years??? Anyone has the right to air their concerns, and we all have the right to respond to those concerns. Many people will be worried with what next season holds for us, but we need to wait and see what players arrive. There’s no point having a hissy fit over a single player leaving. The last time I watched a game of football there were 11 alty players on the pitch. Senior did well for us, and last season played more games as an out and out striker, (ie not always on the left). Moreover, we still have two perfectly good forwards on the books. GH has made it perfectly clear our ambition still remains to ensure survival in BSP. It may not be pretty, but after what we saw last season, we should have confidence, and pull together to give the squad a chance to prove themselves.
Cmon the red’s.
Not on I'm afraid and you can call me as much as you like for expressing that view
Called!!.
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Im moving down sauf in the summer, so wont be around for many matches next season. However, ive still managed to renew my season ticket, as I enjoyed last season, and want to support the management and players. I also have a large economic deficit (and in talks with IMF for a bailout), so carnt give on a regulary basis.
Sorry, not least because I know I'm gonna get slaughtered for this but
Well, here we go with your righteousness again…..
Yet again someone fails to toe the party line and gets villified.
What exactly is the party line? That someone shouldn’t make a decision before knowing all the facts? Ie what players are going to come in?? What do our supporters want? to win more in BSN, or compete in BSP?? We have a smallish fan base, and limited income. We are not going to break our budget, and spend millions on rubbish (aka Wrexham). Were Altrincham, small, friendly, and part –time.
People have other commitments that need funding and also have a right to decide what to do with their own money without all the criticism.
Hell yeah, people have other commitments. I don’t think anyone has criticised any decision concerning what a person can / carnt do with their own, hard earned cash. I think the debate is about looking to the future, and what we can expect from our lads next season. Let’s not forget we have managed to bring in guys like smith, senior, young, clee, Williams, Kearney, crowell etc WITHOUT PAYING A SINGLE PENNY ON TRANSFERS. It is only time, that once they have proven themselves and gained confidence , some will move on. That is life within football. We need to have confidence in the management to bring in quality players, which will keep us in BSP.
What is it with what someone has or hasn’t done for alty over the years??? Anyone has the right to air their concerns, and we all have the right to respond to those concerns. Many people will be worried with what next season holds for us, but we need to wait and see what players arrive. There’s no point having a hissy fit over a single player leaving. The last time I watched a game of football there were 11 alty players on the pitch. Senior did well for us, and last season played more games as an out and out striker, (ie not always on the left). Moreover, we still have two perfectly good forwards on the books. GH has made it perfectly clear our ambition still remains to ensure survival in BSP. It may not be pretty, but after what we saw last season, we should have confidence, and pull together to give the squad a chance to prove themselves.
Cmon the red’s.
Not on I'm afraid and you can call me as much as you like for expressing that view
Called!!.
Quality post, casper. I am in complete agreement with you.
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All of the above notwithstanding, I thought I read that this thing about Young leaving/talking to York was a rumour? Perhaps I'm missing something.
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With all due respect Nick you're a young single lad that can obviously afford to move down south and still lay out for a season ticket. I'm a separated father of two that pays two rents to keep a roof over the head of both myself and my children. Surely it is my choice whether i think it is financially viable to renew my season ticket or not and i shouldn't get slated for not doing so! It is not just about Senior leaving that i have based my decision on,there are other players rumoured to be moving on and i am very disappointed with the statement issued from the club about the Blue Square North budget we will be running on next season,i think it's very negative and it won't be just me that it will put off. At the end of the day i would rather spend my hard earned 200 quid on something i know i'm going to enjoy rather than suffer at Moss Lane every week next season!
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NOTE : Just because he hasn't renewed his season ticket doesn't necessarily mean he won't pay at the gate to come to the odd game if things aren't quite as black as they appear, or if his finances improve. I'm not just defending him because he's my son - there'll be others who'll fade away this season. They just won't be as upfront about it !
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NOTE : Just because he hasn't renewed his season ticket doesn't necessarily mean he won't pay at the gate to come to the odd game if things aren't quite as black as they appear, or if his finances improve. I'm not just defending him because he's my son - there'll be others who'll fade away this season. They just won't be as upfront about it !
Correct. When i have any spare cash i will pay on the gate. I'm not saying i'm off to watch Bolton instead,i have been an Alty fan for 30 years and that won't change.
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Nice one ATS. You saw the chance to pop out of your shell and do one of your "call me what you want...no disrespect" posts and off you go again until the next one. I don't think Joe needs people to stick up for him.
What the hell has the party line got to do with it? What is the party line?
Joe put on that he is glad he hasn't got a season ticket yet and he won't be getting one now. Thats up to him its his opinion and if he expresses it on a public forum then people can tell him what they think of it.
A few people put on (including me) that he should wait to see what happens pre season and its a bit early to judge. A few other people said they were still getting theres.
I fully agree with him on the PR side (as I have made clear but I didn't really think that anyone agreed with me). If a manager in the Premier league announced he had a championship budget and players could get more in the conference league after coming out of the board meeting for next season he would be disciplined and another statement would go out from the board with a much more positive light.
I don't agree with him on players leaving..I feel that was out of our hands and not the clubs fault.
You should write a three page long post ATS with all the stuff that bugs you on..you'll feel a lot better and you might even be able to post some light hearted stuff instead of posts with politics in all the time.
As for Joe, I'll have a word with the daft sod when I see him on Saturday and buy him one out of my winnings at the dogs.
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I understand joe, I let my season ticket go after loosing job so only see the occasional game now. What I must say is we have no choice who's on the pitch, we have faith in the management. Players will always come and go its our support for Alty that shouldn't change. I remember Frickley away !!! our position is so much better now, keep the faith :)
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Come on everyone...
Group hug ?
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I'm a part time fan of a part time club, if they were full time I'm not sure weather that would change anything, think the club may have wanted people to come back down to earth by announcing we have a bsn budget, but at £14 a game its still hard to swallow even if its one of the cheapest in the league
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I'm fully in agreement that the club needs to send out a more positive message about Alty......but we also have to be realsitic.
I think we'd be up in arms if the 'cote had came out with "we can now compete with the big spenders and nothing less than the play offs will do...championship in five years time etc"....there just has to be a balance.
And there would have been uproar if the 'cote had said last week "Chris Senior signs for 3 years...no players leaving....we are building on last season's squad" and Joe had bought his season ticket on the back of this.....and then senior leaves and rumours of others going as well came out.....wouldn't there?
So maybe the BSN budget thing was a bit over negative and disappointing.....but we can't complain we are being sold a pup can we?
And no-one villified Joe, we just said hang on mate, keep the faith etc .we're all disappointed and a bit down...I think....
No conclusions should be drawn about the quality of the football we will see next year until the season starts...and even then look at last season....great expectations from the friendlies, disappointing results (remember barrow at home?) then we had a great season.......and then a disapppointing end to the season.......a week is a long time in footie let alone an entire close season....keep the faith. and that's all most of us were blatantly saying to joe....although clearly not clearly enough to stop another hugely enjoyable diatribe from ATS.
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With all due respect Nick you're a young single lad that can obviously afford to move down south and still lay out for a season ticket. I'm a separated father of two that pays two rents to keep a roof over the head of both myself and my children. Surely it is my choice whether i think it is financially viable to renew my season ticket or not and i shouldn't get slated for not doing so! It is not just about Senior leaving that i have based my decision on,there are other players rumoured to be moving on and i am very disappointed with the statement issued from the club about the Blue Square North budget we will be running on next season,i think it's very negative and it won't be just me that it will put off. At the end of the day i would rather spend my hard earned 200 quid on something i know i'm going to enjoy rather than suffer at Moss Lane every week next season!
Joe, it was not a reflection on you personally or anyone else. My comments were aimed at Altytunnelsteward’s usual dross, whilst attempting to understand the rigours of financial pressure. As I have said before, no-one can tell a person what to spend their money on. I personally know how finically hard these times are. Im skint, and barely make it through the month with a positive bank balance, which is why I couldn’t go to many away games last season. Im moving down sauf to live with my parents again, whilst studying and working part-time.
I suppose my post was concerned with people making decisions before we know about the guys who will be coming in. I am still surprised our PR department doesn’t always function, yet I can also see in other areas, that the budget will remain the same.