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Title: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: hsmith1 on January 24, 2008, 09:07:32 AM
According to the BBC website they are looking for a new ground AGAIN one that will give an all year round income so the football club will be here for ever and a day.Their present ground is not much more than 30 years old.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: Stockportalty on January 24, 2008, 09:47:54 AM
Their current ground is not even 30 years old because I have been watching Alty for about 25 years and I visited the old ground, where Asda is now, on more than one occasion. When we went to watch them at the beginning of last season (we were there on holiday) the talk was that they wanted to move the ground up a bit from where it is now so that better use could be made of the space around it, and they wanted to try and make the access in and out easier, but there were also a lot of people who said that the location was not good, it is too far out of the town centre.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: hsmith1 on January 24, 2008, 11:19:55 AM
i remember their old ground,i had been to it about 4 times,first time ever was in the FA trophy.The new ground their first match was a friendly against Manchetser United.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: Altyroo on January 24, 2008, 11:33:10 AM
I have only been to the new ground. That was Jan 89 and if i remembr rightly it was only the second season they had played there. And yes it is too far out of town. To top it all we got beat 3-1. Was a good weekend away tho.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: thegazelle on January 24, 2008, 12:57:03 PM
i know its been done to death over the years of this forum but how good was that trophy day out (the first time we had been anywhere south of telford).
Three coaches full and loads in car etc 0-0 stan allan hit his own cross bar and so many oo agh oo agh chants we all ended up talking that way.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: SW on January 24, 2008, 01:52:39 PM
Certainly was a fine trip even for a 0-0. Very early set off, think it was 7:15 from the ground, dragging the then teenage me from his pit at 6am on a Saturday! My parents still can't believe it now!

Seem to recall a strange police escort back to the coaches, with the pavements full of Weymouth although I don't recall any sense of potential bother. Was it the week after we won 7-1 away at Worksop?
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: Brian Flynn on January 24, 2008, 03:51:38 PM
Certainly was a fine trip even for a 0-0. Very early set off, think it was 7:15 from the ground, dragging the then teenage me from his pit at 6am on a Saturday! My parents still can't believe it now!

Seem to recall a strange police escort back to the coaches, with the pavements full of Weymouth although I don't recall any sense of potential bother. Was it the week after we won 7-1 away at Worksop?

Yes it was the week after the 7-1 win at Worksop....my first & only trip to their old ground>
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: thegazelle on January 24, 2008, 03:52:56 PM
i remember getting off the coach and being fronted by a gang of weymouth fans i thought oh hell here we go but some wag shouted i wouldnt bother lads there's three coaches of united fans on their way. the sea of claret and blue parted very quickly. if i also remember correctly this game marked the appearance of a strange character called Brian Taylor who had hopped there from london or something and went onto become a legend in his own portakabin supporters hut.

i was happy in them days what went wrong why do you have to grow up i know somewill say i havent but it feels like i have a bit
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: SW on January 24, 2008, 04:05:22 PM
The Trophy run that season was the start of the great years for me, big gate home games against Matlock, The Weymouth replay, Winsford I think, or was that the year after? Of course there were the Scarborough games too, the first proper trouble I recall at ML.

Were the crowds published for those games, and if so reliably?
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: Brian Flynn on January 24, 2008, 04:07:49 PM
Their current ground is not even 30 years old because I have been watching Alty for about 25 years and I visited the old ground, where Asda is now, on more than one occasion. When we went to watch them at the beginning of last season (we were there on holiday) the talk was that they wanted to move the ground up a bit from where it is now so that better use could be made of the space around it, and they wanted to try and make the access in and out easier, but there were also a lot of people who said that the location was not good, it is too far out of the town centre.

I think that our last visit to the old ground  was early in 1987.John Williams was the manager & I believe we drew 2-2.It was around the time things started going a belly up & I seem to recall Peter Densmore refusing to play & staying on the team coach throughout the game.Later that year(September) we made our first visit to the Wessex Stadium & lost 1-0 to a Peter Conning penalty after about 83 minutes.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: Brian Flynn on January 24, 2008, 04:10:16 PM
The Trophy run that season was the start of the great years for me, big gate home games against Matlock, The Weymouth replay, Winsford I think, or was that the year after? Of course there were the Scarborough games too, the first proper trouble I recall at ML.

Were the crowds published for those games, and if so reliably?

Yes, Winsford was the following year when we won it!

The attendance figures will be available somewhere.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: thegazelle on January 24, 2008, 04:16:24 PM
i think it was 4.000 plus for the winsford game i will not forget" top right keeper top right keeper"
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 24, 2008, 04:46:40 PM

I think that our last visit to the old ground  was early in 1987.John Williams was the manager & I believe we drew 2-2.It was around the time things started going a belly up & I seem to recall Peter Densmore refusing to play & staying on the team coach throughout the game.Later that year(September) we made our first visit to the Wessex Stadium & lost 1-0 to a Peter Conning penalty after about 83 minutes.

Brian,

Could you be more precise please.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 24, 2008, 04:51:59 PM
The Trophy run that season was the start of the great years for me, big gate home games against Matlock, The Weymouth replay, Winsford I think, or was that the year after? Of course there were the Scarborough games too, the first proper trouble I recall at ML.

Were the crowds published for those games, and if so reliably?

Yes, Winsford was the following year when we won it!



Mister Flynn,

We did play Winsford United during the 1976/77 FA Trophy campaign.

A 2-1 win at Moss Lane in the First Round courtesy of goals from Ian Morris and Jeff Johnson.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: Brian Flynn on January 24, 2008, 05:05:43 PM
The Trophy run that season was the start of the great years for me, big gate home games against Matlock, The Weymouth replay, Winsford I think, or was that the year after? Of course there were the Scarborough games too, the first proper trouble I recall at ML.

Were the crowds published for those games, and if so reliably?

Yes, Winsford was the following year when we won it!

You are right of course.......although I think that it is likely that SW is referring to the 1978 Quarter Final in his post........that's my excuse anyway!!!



Mister Flynn,

We did play Winsford United during the 1976/77 FA Trophy campaign.

A 2-1 win at Moss Lane in the First Round courtesy of goals from Ian Morris and Jeff Johnson.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: TheCultOfIanTunnacliffe on January 24, 2008, 05:09:39 PM
The Trophy run that season was the start of the great years for me, big gate home games against Matlock, The Weymouth replay, Winsford I think, or was that the year after? Of course there were the Scarborough games too, the first proper trouble I recall at ML.

Were the crowds published for those games, and if so reliably?

The attendance figures will be available somewhere.

FA Trophy 1976/77

3rd Qualifying Round
Alty 3 Buxton 1
Attendance: 951.

First Round

Alty 2 Winsford United 1
Attendance: ?

Second Round

Alty 2 Atherstone Town 0
Attendance: 1,209

Third Round
Alty 1 Matlock Town 0
Attendance: 2,253.

Fourth Round
Weymouth 0 Alty 0
Attendance: 1,802.

Fourth Round Replay
Alty 2 Weymouth 1
Attendance: 2,450.

Semi-Final First Leg
Scarborough 2 Alty 0
Attendance: 4,183.

Semi-Final Second Leg
Alty 2 Scarborough 0
Attendance: 2,795.

Semi-Final First Replay (at Rotherham United)
Alty 0 Scarborough 0
Attendance: 2,597.

Semi-Final Second Replay (at Doncaster Rovers)
Scarborough 2 Alty 1
Attendance: 3,761.

Ah, Joe Flaherty being sent off and Mick Moore's missed penalty....what memories....!
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: Brian Flynn on January 24, 2008, 05:10:51 PM

I think that our last visit to the old ground  was early in 1987.John Williams was the manager & I believe we drew 2-2.It was around the time things started going a belly up & I seem to recall Peter Densmore refusing to play & staying on the team coach throughout the game.Later that year(September) we made our first visit to the Wessex Stadium & lost 1-0 to a Peter Conning penalty after about 83 minutes.

Brian,

Could you be more precise please.

Thank you.

Being a little anally retentive on the memory front, I have 83 minutes in my mind....but I wouldn't swear it was absolutely correct!!
::)
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: thegazelle on January 24, 2008, 06:07:26 PM
never realised we played both matlock and winsford in both 76/77 and 77/78


the 78 crowds were much more and if there was only 2,800 in the second leg against scarboro you can use my arse as a banjo. there was about 3,000 leeds skinheads stood in the golf road armed with sharpened combs and dressed as clockwork orange or was the clockwork orange bit hartlepool
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: jiminlondon on January 24, 2008, 06:21:17 PM
never realised we played both matlock and winsford in both 76/77 and 77/78


the 78 crowds were much more and if there was only 2,800 in the second leg against scarboro you can use my arse as a banjo. there was about 3,000 leeds skinheads stood in the golf road armed with sharpened combs and dressed as clockwork orange or was the clockwork orange bit hartlepool

thats pretty much as i remember it
i climbed into the stand and stayed there

wasnt matlock the second time at their place and ian morris scored with a mish*t cross. there were loads of 'alty lads' there that day who were never seen before or since. the coaches got there late and we had to run through the town to make kickoff. the locals thought the barbarian hordes had arrived.

i went to weymouth on more than one occasion but dont remeberit at all. i'm getting on you know
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: thegazelle on January 24, 2008, 07:11:19 PM
ineed james the coaches (at least three) were late and there was a fair mob who were very vocal through the town i also remember it p1ssed down all game. ian morriss scored at the other end to the cricket pitch. much to the dismay of fenoughty g fenoughty b fenoughty z and fenoughty j remmeber them?
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: jiminlondon on January 24, 2008, 07:32:20 PM
indeed at the 76/7 game my mate lee had a banner which read 'johnson eats fenoughtys for breakfast'
not very witty but its what passed for humour in 1976

cold someone post the winning cup run the next year?
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: Railway Alty on January 24, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
never realised we played both matlock and winsford in both 76/77 and 77/78


the 78 crowds were much more and if there was only 2,800 in the second leg against scarboro you can use my arse as a banjo. there was about 3,000 leeds skinheads stood in the golf road armed with sharpened combs and dressed as clockwork orange or was the clockwork orange bit hartlepool
Gazelle the clockwork orange crew were Hartlepool and i seem to remember some old dear taking here umberella to the head of the guy who was leading them round to start trouble
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: thegazelle on January 24, 2008, 08:12:23 PM
blatantly plagarised from the main site but we still need crowds
estimates to the right
  1   Workington A 0 0                        cant remember but not many
  1R Workington H 4 0                       1500
  2 Frickley Athletic H 4 0                   1700
  3 Matlock Town A 1 1                       2500
  3R Matlock Town H 2 0                     2500 The biggest2500 i ever saw the ground was packed
  QF Winsford United  H 4 2                4000
  SF1 Runcorn H 0 0                             3000
  SF2 Runcorn A 1 0                              3000
  FINAL Leatherhead N 3 1 at Wembley 20,000 16,000 from alty
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: altyusa on January 24, 2008, 08:45:57 PM
ineed james the coaches (at least three) were late and there was a fair mob who were very vocal through the town i also remember it p1ssed down all game. ian morriss scored at the other end to the cricket pitch. much to the dismay of fenoughty g fenoughty b fenoughty z and fenoughty j remmeber them?

I remember that game.  As you said Gazelle, got there late, pissed it down the whole time, Matlock fans all under the cover and we stood at one end that was really narrow with a massive hedge behind it!  Also seem to remember their floodlights were on the pitch right by the touchline and, yes, they had all those Fenoughty's playing!!
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: SW on January 24, 2008, 10:07:25 PM
Spot on Usa Alty but I recall as a teenager still smoking the old Rothmans throughout even if they were soaked and useless in minutes.

Also recall the late arrival and chanting as a mob through the town, until returning to the coaches after and findind a welcoming committee of Chesterfield fans waiting!
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: jiminlondon on January 24, 2008, 10:21:47 PM
imagine plying winsford in a trophy QF 
when the hell did we play hartlepool - i must have blanked that entirely
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: thegazelle on January 25, 2008, 05:21:10 AM
hartlepool was 72/73  i think
the year after notts county and my first experience of football violence
but andy windsor made the terror worthwhile .

Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: hsmith1 on January 25, 2008, 08:24:04 AM
the trip to Weymouth my father came of the M5 at gloucester said it would be quicker,we ended up in some hills and he admitted he was lost.he decided that a milk tanker was going the correct way and decided to follow it,straight into a farmers yard.We did get to the game though
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: SW on January 25, 2008, 09:39:37 AM
I was only about 10 when we played Hartlepool, sat in the stand with my old man. Some Hartlepool fan ran along the running track chased by police and hurled a large stone towards the stand. It hit the glass side panels making a small hole; if it wasn't wired glass he could as llikely have killed someone. The hole remained for years until the panels were completely changed.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: Brian Flynn on January 25, 2008, 09:56:53 AM
hartlepool was 72/73  i think
the year after notts county and my first experience of football violence
but andy windsor made the terror worthwhile .



Hartlepool was the 1973/4  FA Cup 1st Round & the win took us through to face Blackburn at Ewood Park.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: markecky on January 25, 2008, 10:03:25 AM
I was only about 10 when we played Hartlepool, sat in the stand with my old man. Some Hartlepool fan ran along the running track chased by police and hurled a large stone towards the stand. It hit the glass side panels making a small hole; if it wasn't wired glass he could as llikely have killed someone. The hole remained for years until the panels were completely changed.

Thats a brilliant fact!  I remember that hole well..I always thought it was from an air gun or something.
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: thegazelle on January 25, 2008, 01:52:12 PM
if we had beaten Blackburn we would have drawn who?
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: SW on January 25, 2008, 02:07:34 PM
Something tells me it was Everton? The year before we did!
Title: Re: Weymouth looking for a new ground
Post by: thegazelle on January 25, 2008, 02:40:55 PM
correct everton  away and the next season we did