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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: WrecsamFan on July 24, 2008, 11:06:07 AM
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Rumors on our fanzine "Red Passion" that your local police want to change the game to a 12am - 1pm kick off. Opposed to a 3pm one. This change of time would be a major blow to MOST of our fans as the plan of a few drinks goes out of the window. Anyone else heard this.
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WrecsamFan !
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I have not heard anything about this but I would think the lack of opportunity to drink would be the whole point behind such an idea.
Personally, I hope it stays at 3pm as the attendance will inevitably suffer if it doesn't. I would put money on floating fans turning up at 2.45pm to find the game almost over.
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To be honest, I don't think many people will turn up for a midnight kick off. ;)
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To be honest, I don't think many people will turn up for a midnight kick off. ;)
its been scheduled around tesco's weekend closing hours.
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To be honest, I don't think many people will turn up for a midnight kick off. ;)
I would ::)
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Rumors on our fanzine "Red Passion" that your local police want to change the game to a 12am - 1pm kick off. Opposed to a 3pm one. This change of time would be a major blow to MOST of our fans as the plan of a few drinks goes out of the window. Anyone else heard this.
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WrecsamFan !
Dont take this personally our police and local supermarkets get scared when more than 15 people come into the town. Basically this will probably get hyped out of all proportion resulting in all the pubs closing forcing fans to drink in Hale and Tesco using it to gain some free publicity but then at the last minute staying open.-How United and City cope with more than 15 away fans is a total mystery.
Hope it stays at 3pm.
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Why would a noon kick-off affect attendance? Wrexham isn't exactly the other end of the county, or even the other end of a different country.
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Why would a noon kick-off affect attendance? Wrexham isn't exactly the other end of the county, or even the other end of a different country.
A lot of fans( espically away ones) go for the day out EG drinking a few before the game meeting the opposing fans visiting pubs. Thats what i try and do when going to an away game. Some may not bother if they cant do this.
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ah, you see to me the whole point of going to a football match is to go to the football match.
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ah, you see to me the whole point of going to a football match is to go to the football match.
same here not bothered about the social aspect if i was i would support fc united
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The time will affect the away attendance no doubt, bearing in mind it's a pain getting up even earlier, some people play football themselves in the morning and others work untill midday.
When we played Chester on a tuesday we soldl out (1,800) when the game is played 12KO on a sunday we took 1,300. Same happend at Shrewsbury.
Let's all hope it's a 3KO, depending on how well we are doing an early kick off should knock 500 of the away attendance.
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Why would a noon kick-off affect attendance? Wrexham isn't exactly the other end of the county, or even the other end of a different country.
You know very well that it would affect the attendance, but as usual you would rather be a contrary smart-arse than see sense. No doubt you will make one of your hilarious "movies" about it to be posted on Confguide in due course.
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Worrying isn't it that same set of police look after 70,000+ at OT and 50,000 at City .... Amazin....
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And funnily enough large numbers of them drink in Alty before making their way to the respective stadia.
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Why would a noon kick-off affect attendance? Wrexham isn't exactly the other end of the county, or even the other end of a different country.
You know very well that it would affect the attendance, but as usual you would rather be a contrary smart-arse than see sense. No doubt you will make one of your hilarious "movies" about it to be posted on Confguide in due course.
Actually I don't know why it would make a difference. It wouldn't make a difference to me going to Wrexham. If you want to get personally abusive put it in a PM.
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I have not been abusive to you in any way, just stated a few facts. You are a contrary smart-arse who deliberately says things just to be contraversial. Just keep it on confguide with your other silly little chums.
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Yes I can see how that's not abusive. From now on i'll abide by the rules that you are entitled to your opinion but I am not entitled to mine.
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Yes I can see how that's not abusive. From now on i'll abide by the rules that you are entitled to your opinion but I am not entitled to mine.
Are you on drugs? When did I say you are not entitled to your opinion?
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I prefer an early kick off for games that don't involve travelling a long distance. Get an early train and pile into the nearest Wetherspoons for breakfast and beer. The game will be finished by 2pm allowing plenty of time for more beer before getting the train back and arriving home in time for more beer.
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ah, you see to me the whole point of going to a football match is to go to the football match.
Of course the whole point of the "day out " is ultimatley the game; however it is also nice to rejoice in the splender of your surroundings as well.
Each to there own. If we were all alike it would be a very dull world.
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An away day to me is just that, an away day. A few decent pints before and lots more after. The football is the break you need to get that second wind.
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An away day to me is just that, an away day. A few decent pints before and lots more after. The football is the break you need to get that second wind.
Here here! have a goodwin
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Last season we played Millwall at home in the FA Cup and the 3pm kickoff time remained, after a big debate.
So I cant see Wrexham fans posing a bigger security risk.
However the Cops may enforce the closure of local pubs like they did for the Millwall match - that will not go down well with our local Publicans as Summer Bank Holiday Monday is a big payday without any matches, whereas the FA Cup is played on a freezing cold miserable Saturday afternoon in November.
I also recall a lot of Wrexham lads in the late 70's use to drink in the Station Hotel before United matches.
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This is all particularly amusing as I am flying back from belfast for the day to see the game and if changed to midday will miss the first half. Booster, pasty rat connector
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Most of the troublmakers/hooligans are banned from Wrexham games thank god, last season over 70 we're banned from attending games due to F.B.O.
Really looking forward to this game, should be 1,400-1,800 there from Wrexham depending on how well we are doing.
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Red Dragon (and other Wrexham fans on here)
What's Danny Williams like?
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Really looking forward to this game, should be 1,400-1,800 there from .......... depending on how well we are doing.
You just don't see quotes like this from Solihull fans. I can't wait for this game!
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Most of the troublmakers/hooligans are banned from Wrexham games thank god, last season over 70 we're banned from attending games due to F.B.O.
Really looking forward to this game, should be 1,400-1,800 there from Wrexham depending on how well we are doing.
good to hear, cannot wait for this game. still not sure where we are gonna put you all !?!?!
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won't we move the segregation down the pop side a little? We should be able to take the then?
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the segregation should be moved so that a third goes to Wrexham, the raised section is a sterile area and alty get the other third.
More than enough space for both teams fans then and much easier to police.
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It might be simpler still if the home fans are all kept in the Golf Road End with the away fans given one third of the pop side. I can't see that we would need any more space than that and the atmosphere in the home end would be tremendous!
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I know with the hospitality stuff going on etc it's not possible, but I've often thought that it would be good if the Family Stand were to be away seating and the Main stand home only for matches like this.
This would mean we could still be at the 20/20 corner when Alty were kicking that way. It does spoil it a little otherwise (as, selfishly, we - Mrs S and I - usually stand in the mid section of the pop side and like it there!)
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Wrexham official website now reporting that it has been changed to 12.00 kickoff, can anyone confirm from alty?
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Game is now a 12KO according to our official site.
http://www.wrexhamafc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Home/
Bad news really as far as i'm concerned.
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Why oh why is there need to change the time of the fixture???
If tottenham-arsenal, city and united can all be 3KO football times, why can a game that will attract a fraction of the people.
Madness.
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Because our local Police are idiots basically. An absolutely ridiculous decision.
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How much longer are football clubs going to let the thugs in uniform dictate KO times/dates?
If people want to get smashed and cause trouble at the game they will do so regardless of KO times. Fact. The Police are so far away from reality its scary.
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I'm inclined to agree. If people of that mentality are really that determined to make trouble they will find a way irrespective of the kick off time. I just hope it doesn't adversely affect your away following too badly because I'm really looking forward to this game.
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Unfortunately it will affect how many we bring, only 1,000 Wrexham fans may turn up ow. :-[
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Unfortunately it will affect how many we bring, only 1,000 Wrexham fans may turn up ow. :-[
Yeah it's a shame but i think you're right, only 1000-1200 will attend now rather then the 1500+ that was expected.
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Thing is, i'v allready had texts off mates who said they will be drinking cans on the train and head in to Wetherspoons (The Unicorn) at 9am.
What we're the police trying to acheive again by an early kick-off? ::)
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Trying to avoid being negative, 1000 is still a pretty decent away following to see brought.
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Trying to avoid being negative, 1000 is still a pretty decent away following to see brought.
Indeed, is 987 more than Solihull were planning....
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It just annoys me that the Police never seem to get it right. Last week a problem with about 50 fans escalated beyond all proportion because the Police were too slow to react. Now, they are being totally over the top and ruining a lot of people's day out by going too far the other way. They appear to be completely bereft of common sense!
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It just annoys me that the Police never seem to get it right. Last week a problem with about 50 fans escalated beyond all proportion because the Police were too slow to react. Now, they are being totally over the top and ruining a lot of people's day out by going too far the other way. They appear to be completely bereft of common sense!
Good post. Spot-on there.
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Can someone please explain to me what this will achieve? Will Wrexham kick-off at 12 for every away game at the weekend?
There really is no sense in this. We have less than a handful of fans interested in causing trouble and in any case even they arent daft enough to get wrecked on a bank holiday and try it on with 1500 Wrexham fans. Surely every other club in the league poses the same threat.
What would happen if, dare i mention it, we ended up a league club. Would we play all games where there is potential for over 500 away fans at 6 o clock on monday mornings so the police could sleep in peace.
I urge Wrexham fans to organise a day out in alty after the match. All 1200 drinking through the day in the pubs of alty, just to annoy the coppers.
This is a most blatant example of lazy policing!
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I hope all the wrexham fans enjoy their day out and don't bring a drum.
why is it not 12:45pm kick off? thats a real football time
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Spoons at 9! ;D
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I don't recall the Cheshire police wanting to move the Chester races to a 10am start because 30,000 people decend onto Chester and get totally rat-arsed, but soon as Chester play Wrexham or Shrewsbury, the police start pannicking because more than 2,000 supporters will be going to watch Chester and you end up with about a million police on patrol. You are thinking they can cope with 30,000 racegoers but they can't cope with 4,000 football supporters.
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Spoons at 9! ;D
That's what im going to do, train from Chester-Altrincham with plenty of cans, get to The Unicorn at 9, next pub at 11 and to the ground at 11.55.
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F*cking rubbish news, i'm at Leeds festival so am going to have to set off ridiculously early if I want to make it, and I really can't see that happening with the state I'll be in! >:(
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F*cking rubbish news, i'm at Leeds festival so am going to have to set off ridiculously early if I want to make it, and I really can't see that happening with the state I'll be in! >:(
A few of my mates are at Creamfields saturday and sunday, woud think a few of them miss the game because they wont be up in time!
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It seems to me to be totally over the top on the part of the Bobbies.
We should be welcoming Wrexham (and Mansfield for that matter) to the world of Non-League football for whatever time they are with us and be showing them a cordial welcome and the friendly side to the game.
There's no reason to expect any more trouble than, for example, when Vics came the other Boxing Day and brought a similar number (less likelihood actually as there's no 'history' between us)
I personally hope all the Wrexham fans coming to the game come in the right spirit, enjoy their day out at Alty ...
... and take defeat in a gentlemanly fashion ::) ::) :D :D
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I thought they might have moved it because united were at home in the evening, but ive just discovered that they are actually away! Oh well, it hardly matters, the conference is becoming more and more like a league three anyway, so we better just get used to it,the old bill will have their reasons for moving it.
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As it happens this kick off time actually suits me becasue I'm in Alty for the weekend, yet I'm still a little pissed off because if it becomes a regular thing it really won't suit those of us who have to travel. It's GMP for the love of God; thousands of officers were anything to look threatening. Plus, I don't recall Wrexham having a particular reputation for smashing up medium sized towns with a non-league football club and no 'firm'.
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It seems to me to be totally over the top on the part of the Bobbies.
We should be welcoming Wrexham (and Mansfield for that matter) to the world of Non-League football for whatever time they are with us and be showing them a cordial welcome and the friendly side to the game.
There's no reason to expect any more trouble than, for example, when Vics came the other Boxing Day and brought a similar number (less likelihood actually as there's no 'history' between us)
I personally hope all the Wrexham fans coming to the game come in the right spirit, enjoy their day out at Alty ...
If we want to run with the big boys then we have to take this kind of thing. I'm afraid "all good friends in the non league world" is not always applicable.
Not picking at you Saughall, but the Northwich/Wrexham comparison is ludicrous. Wrexham have named firms and 70 banning orders. Northwich have gobby 16 yr olds and a couple of fella's who are old enough to know better.
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F*cking rubbish news, i'm at Leeds festival so am going to have to set off ridiculously early if I want to make it, and I really can't see that happening with the state I'll be in! >:(
A few of my mates are at Creamfields saturday and sunday, woud think a few of them miss the game because they wont be up in time!
be 'ard it ends at 11 on the sunday loads of sleep time! saturday is the rave night!
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I agree with Ecky's pragmatic view but whyy can't we kick off at 3pm....call the cops at 3.15pm and then wait for them to arrive on Monday with a crime number for us?
After the Utd debacle this reminds me of the famous NTNON line where the Americans want to make up for being late for the last two world wars by being really prompt this time.
Welcome to the hardline Blue Square Premiere World of non league Wrexham....and no you can't drink on the terraces...waddya think this is?........Bamber bridge?
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At least feel gratitude that unlike Droylsden we are not away at hucknall on that day, or like farsley home to blyth spartans.
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It seems to me to be totally over the top on the part of the Bobbies.
We should be welcoming Wrexham (and Mansfield for that matter) to the world of Non-League football for whatever time they are with us and be showing them a cordial welcome and the friendly side to the game.
There's no reason to expect any more trouble than, for example, when Vics came the other Boxing Day and brought a similar number (less likelihood actually as there's no 'history' between us)
I personally hope all the Wrexham fans coming to the game come in the right spirit, enjoy their day out at Alty ...
If we want to run with the big boys then we have to take this kind of thing. I'm afraid "all good friends in the non league world" is not always applicable.
Not picking at you Saughall, but the Northwich/Wrexham comparison is ludicrous. Wrexham have named firms and 70 banning orders. Northwich have gobby 16 yr olds and a couple of fella's who are old enough to know better.
I know what you mean Ecky, but what I was getting at was that there's no reason to expect trouble.
Whilst we perhaps must be prepared for the possibility, I can't really see that moving the KO time to 12 would make any difference.
As has been said elsewhere, those who wish to drink will arrive with can and go to Witherspoons for brekky and beer at 9am.