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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: bumble on December 07, 2015, 07:43:35 PM
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Atmosphere was one the best I've experienced. There were genuinely few moments of silence.
Let's get the golf road going from the off on Saturday. The lads will need a boost after yesterday.
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"We've got a diamond called Sam Heathcote..."
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there were a few new songs yesterday (or old ones reappearing) that I didn't know. For occasions like that we could do with a song book for the uninitiated younger fans / exiles / those who normally occupy parts of the ground away from the singers
What does Jake do before he drinks in the bar?
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there were a few new songs yesterday (or old ones reappearing) that I didn't know. For occasions like that we could do with a song book for the uninitiated younger fans / exiles / those who normally occupy parts of the ground away from the singers
What does Jake do before he drinks in the bar?
He hates the best-side
He drinks in the vault
He plays for Alty
His name is Jake Moult
I think it may be an idea to have a pinned thread on here where new lyrics can be discussed.
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no wonder I didn't get it - I've seen it written down and I still have no idea what it means!
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no wonder I didn't get it - I've seen it written down and I still have no idea what it means!
Back in the day pubs used to have the "Vault" which was mainly a working mans habitat, and the "best side", the latter being used by men accompanied by their good ladies. There is no reason to it, as far as I'm aware, just that vault and Moult rhyme. That's where it comes from. :)
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no wonder I didn't get it - I've seen it written down and I still have no idea what it means!
Jake is drinking in the Vault because he is are working class hero thus not going in the lounge eg (best side)
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You could go in the vault with your work gear on in the days when people had a few at dinner time.........and no, I don't mean solicitor's in Manchester having a few at lunchtime and then billing the Client.
Same applied in the evening with the Vault. Card games, darts and occasionally bad language................you took your girlfriend / wife in the 'best side' (lounge bar)
I often think the trend to create one-roomed open pubs has been part of their downfall, in that a lot of people these days don't know how to behave in a pub when others are in there with their Mother or Wife having a quiet drink or a meal. Having fella's fooling around, continually effin and geoffin has put some people off pubs ..........the best side and vault took care of this and made it simple
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You could go in the vault with your work gear on in the days when people had a few at dinner time.........and no, I don't mean solicitor's in Manchester having a few at lunchtime and then billing the Client.
Same applied in the evening with the Vault. Card games, darts and occasionally bad language................you took your girlfriend / wife in the 'best side' (lounge bar)
I often think the trend to create one-roomed open pubs has been part of their downfall, in that a lot of people these days don't know how to behave in a pub when others are in there with their Mother or Wife having a quiet drink or a meal. Having fella's fooling around, continually effin and geoffin has put some people off pubs ..........the best side and vault took care of this and made it simple
I remember as a youngster - never being allowed round the 'other side' in the Railway in Hale (or the Railway in Mobberley, for that matter - where the gents even had their own vault toilets!)
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I began my drinking career in The Bridge on Dane Rd, the beer was 1p cheaper in the vault. The landlord was nicknamed "The Toucan" due to his big nose, whoa betide you if he caught you buying the beer in the vault then sneaking round into the lounge.
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no wonder I didn't get it - I've seen it written down and I still have no idea what it means!
Jake is drinking in the Vault because he is are working class hero thus not going in the lounge eg (best side)
Spot on.
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I began my drinking career in The Bridge on Dane Rd, the beer was 1p cheaper in the vault. The landlord was nicknamed "The Toucan" due to his big nose, whoa betide you if he caught you buying the beer in the vault then sneaking round into the lounge.
SW have you been back there lately? They expanded it quite a few years ago. I was a part of Sale cricket club's Sunday XI and we always got in trouble because of poor bar takings on a Sunday night back in the late '70s early '80s. Quick one in the lounge and up to the Bridge for
Boddies!!
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I'm glad someone has explained this.
I know what a vault is, of course, but had no idea of the concept of 'best side; I thought this was an ironic reference to the other team we are playing at any given point, inferring that every team we play is better than us.
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£5,000 to the winners on Saturday:
http://www.thefa.com/fa-trophy/more/fa-trophy-prize-fund (http://www.thefa.com/fa-trophy/more/fa-trophy-prize-fund)
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I think this will be tough. Hard to motivate after that ending and against a team that will want to show us up, expect counterattacking football from them which we are poor at playing against. Take a scruffy win
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They had two sent off last Saturday & have no midweek game, so will have to make changes to their last starting XI. The pessimist in me sees Cheltenham 1979 repeating itself (only those with long memories need work that one out!) but the optimist says we will want to bounce back from Sunday & won't lack motivation. Hope my optimistic side is justified this time ...
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They had two sent off last Saturday & have no midweek game, so will have to make changes to their last starting XI. The pessimist in me sees Cheltenham 1979 repeating itself (only those with long memories need work that one out!) but the optimist says we will want to bounce back from Sunday & won't lack motivation. Hope my optimistic side is justified this time ...
I wish you hadn't reinvoked that particular memory Mike ! My optimistic side is fully activated though.
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They had two sent off last Saturday & have no midweek game, so will have to make changes to their last starting XI. The pessimist in me sees Cheltenham 1979 repeating itself (only those with long memories need work that one out!) but the optimist says we will want to bounce back from Sunday & won't lack motivation. Hope my optimistic side is justified this time ...
What sort of dumb ass team gets 2 reds a game before a cup tie?
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They had two sent off last Saturday & have no midweek game, so will have to make changes to their last starting XI. The pessimist in me sees Cheltenham 1979 repeating itself (only those with long memories need work that one out!) but the optimist says we will want to bounce back from Sunday & won't lack motivation. Hope my optimistic side is justified this time ...
At that level aren't the bookings and red cards done via carrier pigeon meaning they will be suspended, but not until after Saturday's fixture has taken place?
I don't want to discuss Sunday, other than to say the players were all magnificent and didn't deserve to come home defeated. If we can take half that application in to the FA Trophy, we can go far. I'm still absolutely grief stricken about Sunday, and will be for a long time. But we were never going to win the FA Cup, but we can win the FA Trophy. We've seen performances so far this season to back that up. So dust ourselves and go again.The publicity and adulation can become addictive, so let's see what a trip to Wembley after 30 years brings
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They had two sent off last Saturday & have no midweek game, so will have to make changes to their last starting XI. The pessimist in me sees Cheltenham 1979 repeating itself (only those with long memories need work that one out!) but the optimist says we will want to bounce back from Sunday & won't lack motivation. Hope my optimistic side is justified this time ...
At that level aren't the bookings and red cards done via carrier pigeon meaning they will be suspended, but not until after Saturday's fixture has taken place?
I don't want to discuss Sunday, other than to say the players were all magnificent and didn't deserve to come home defeated. If we can take half that application in to the FA Trophy, we can go far. I'm still absolutely grief stricken about Sunday, and will be for a long time. But we were never going to win the FA Cup, but we can win the FA Trophy. We've seen performances so far this season to back that up. So dust ourselves and go again.The publicity and adulation can become addictive, so let's see what a trip to Wembley after 30 years brings
Good points - checked FA website which says that at that level suspensions begin on the 14th day after the relevant offence. I sit corrected! The Trophy represents a realistic target, so let's go for it.
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They had two sent off last Saturday & have no midweek game, so will have to make changes to their last starting XI. The pessimist in me sees Cheltenham 1979 repeating itself (only those with long memories need work that one out!) but the optimist says we will want to bounce back from Sunday & won't lack motivation. Hope my optimistic side is justified this time ...
At that level aren't the bookings and red cards done via carrier pigeon meaning they will be suspended, but not until after Saturday's fixture has taken place?
I don't want to discuss Sunday, other than to say the players were all magnificent and didn't deserve to come home defeated. If we can take half that application in to the FA Trophy, we can go far. I'm still absolutely grief stricken about Sunday, and will be for a long time. But we were never going to win the FA Cup, but we can win the FA Trophy. We've seen performances so far this season to back that up. So dust ourselves and go again.The publicity and adulation can become addictive, so let's see what a trip to Wembley after 30 years brings
Good points - checked FA website which says that at that level suspensions begin on the 14th day after the relevant offence. I sit corrected! The Trophy represents a realistic target, so let's go for it.
I said it on a thread a few months back but I still feel gutted about that loss at Bath. What a chance we had last season.
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Well said Capitano we also have a good chance most years as the bigger clubs don't always take it serious
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My only worry is that I'm not sure we have a big enough squad to deal with going far in the Trophy and not getting relegated.
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My only worry is that I'm not sure we have a big enough squad to deal with going far in the Trophy and not getting relegated.
I don't think it's one or the other. If we have a clean bill of health enough (i.e. Dens, Luca, not injured, Clee, Crowther fully fit, no further long term injuries) so that we get to the semi finals of the trophy then we'll stay up easily.
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My only worry is that I'm not sure we have a big enough squad to deal with going far in the Trophy and not getting relegated.
I don't think it's one or the other. If we have a clean bill of health enough (i.e. Dens, Luca, not injured, Clee, Crowther fully fit, no further long term injuries) so that we get to the semi finals of the trophy then we'll stay up easily.
I like your optimism Gareth .
Time will tell!!!!
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My only worry is that I'm not sure we have a big enough squad to deal with going far in the Trophy and not getting relegated.
I don't think it's one or the other. If we have a clean bill of health enough (i.e. Dens, Luca, not injured, Clee, Crowther fully fit, no further long term injuries) so that we get to the semi finals of the trophy then we'll stay up easily.
Just looked out of the window - the pig is flying across the sky in the general direction of the Pennines ... Sorry, but I just don't believe that Clee will ever again be 'fully fit' in the sense you mean; Densmore & Havern need to be handled with care - injuries once they've started to recur will do so more easily; Crowther I would have thought is as much a question of confidence as of fitness. If we were to have a sufficiently fit squad apart from Coburn & Marshall it would be difficult to recruit & retain experienced players to do little more than warm the bench, so the present policy of using youngsters would be justified. First priority has to be the League, but the fixture date for the next round of the Trophy is blank & we have no games outstanding, so let's get past the Brakes & take it from there.
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My only worry is that I'm not sure we have a big enough squad to deal with going far in the Trophy and not getting relegated.
Jim this league is poor we have had key players out and still not in the bottom 4.Dens and Luca back soon
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I'd be a lot happier if Southport stopped their resurgence
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My only worry is that I'm not sure we have a big enough squad to deal with going far in the Trophy and not getting relegated.
Jim this league is poor we have had key players out and still not in the bottom 4.Dens and Luca back soon
Add to that the fact we appear to have a match-fit Michael Rankine again, and the performances of Josh O'Keefe have vastly improved. All things considered, there's reason to be quietly confident going into the second half of the season.
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I'd be a lot happier if Southport stopped their resurgence
they may get out of it but there will be more than 4 teams worse than us I will give you
my word Glyn
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Mike - we are unlikely to have a repeat of Cheltenham. Tim Deasy is not going to turn up drunk and let in two goals in the first 10 minutes, falling flat on his back laughing as the second one goes in
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Mike - we are unlikely to have a repeat of Cheltenham. Tim Deasy is not going to turn up drunk and let in two goals in the first 10 minutes, falling flat on his back laughing as the second one goes in.
Point taken - I wasn't at the game in point of fact so am only referring to the result rather than the circumstances!
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Mike - we are unlikely to have a repeat of Cheltenham. Tim Deasy is not going to turn up drunk and let in two goals in the first 10 minutes, falling flat on his back laughing as the second one goes in.
Point taken - I wasn't at the game in point of fact so am only referring to the result rather than the circumstances!
Did that really happen then?
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Imagine playing a team bottom of the league one level down in the pyramid, who had not won an away game all season. And you having held the mighty Spurs to a draw at White Hart Lane days before. And being the holders of the Trophy, embarking upon our first defence.
And then imagine the opposition turning up without their goalkeeper, who couldnt get the time off work, and having to put their leading scorer in goals.
And then imagine two soft shots in the first few minutes that trickle past your normally "Electric" goalkeeper (Electric Eales copyright Daily Express after his brilliant display at White Hart Lane).
Can I say for sure he was drunk? No, although people have told me he was in the Moss before the game. But he certainly did not take this game seriously. And after the two blunders in the opening minutes, the likes of John Owens and Davision made sure Cheltenham did not have another shot on target all game.
John Rogers pulled one back at around 60 minutes with a shot from outside the box, but it never loooked like we would get back into it.
Our defence of the trophy was over at the first hurdle
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My only worry is that I'm not sure we have a big enough squad to deal with going far in the Trophy and not getting relegated.
I don't think it's one or the other. If we have a clean bill of health enough (i.e. Dens, Luca, not injured, Clee, Crowther fully fit, no further long term injuries) so that we get to the semi finals of the trophy then we'll stay up easily.
Just looked out of the window - the pig is flying across the sky in the general direction of the Pennines ... Sorry, but I just don't believe that Clee will ever again be 'fully fit' in the sense you mean; Densmore & Havern need to be handled with care - injuries once they've started to recur will do so more easily; Crowther I would have thought is as much a question of confidence as of fitness. If we were to have a sufficiently fit squad apart from Coburn & Marshall it would be difficult to recruit & retain experienced players to do little more than warm the bench, so the present policy of using youngsters would be justified. First priority has to be the League, but the fixture date for the next round of the Trophy is blank & we have no games outstanding, so let's get past the Brakes & take it from there.
As I've said before Mike, one begets the other, make the effort to bring in reinforcements to buttress the injured/not fully fit players and it will fix itself.