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General Category => Altrincham FC First Team => Topic started by: robininstockport on February 21, 2024, 12:32:43 PM
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Now become a massive game, anything but a win is unthinkable.
Didn't go or watch last nights game but like most was shocked at amount of changes. Sounds at least 3 players proved their worth.
Guessing Ross won't be featuring on sat.
Gould
Banks. Cooper. Baines. Jones
Osbourne. Marriott
Newby. Con-Clarke. Amaluzor
Linney.
Alty 4-0 Maidenhead. (linney x 2, CCC, Baines)
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That's undoubtedly the side to put out.
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Lets get back to winning ways, need a good performance after the last 2 games. Lets get behind the lads and cheer them onto victory.
Come on the Robins
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I am hoping for the team at the top of the thread but Newbs and Justin need to keep on their toes as both Mooney and Kosylo are beginning to look sharper.
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Has to be the above team, unless Ross is fit.
Would recall Donawa and give minutes for either Banks or Eddie. Both looked sluggish last night.
Also, if goes to plan and we are in a position then Wilson for either CM around the 70 mark. Again, both our CMs looked leggy.
We should start every game with our strongest 11 and then make the right changes.
Can’t be drastically pissing about. Should be able to start two games a week as a professional.
Stay away from wing backs. We have enough wingers to keep at teams.
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Gutted about the result :( on a positive note after months of not being able to use the forum it sprang back to life today like a phoenix ;D up the Robins
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Gutted about the result :( on a positive note after months of not being able to use the forum it sprang back to life today like a phoenix ;D up the Robins
We've missed you! 😉
PS. Happy 500 posts mate!
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Maidenhead know the drill at this level & all their recent away games have been tight & low scoring. That said, it’s absolutely a game we have to win if we are serious about the play offs. Assume it’s our standard first XI back in, although again Parky will have one eye on Southend the following Tuesday too. No City or United clashes on Saturday so hoping we can push towards 2,500 again. I’ll say 2-0 Alty in front of 2,358 (56 away).
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Maidenhead know the drill at this level & all their recent away games have been tight & low scoring. That said, it’s absolutely a game we have to win if we are serious about the play offs. Assume it’s our standard first XI back in, although again Parky will have one eye on Southend the following Tuesday too. No City or United clashes on Saturday so hoping we can push towards 2,500 again. I’ll say 2-0 Alty in front of 2,358 (56 away).
United v Fulham at 3pm.
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Not sure on the fascination with having Justin Donawa here right now.
Let him go and get plenty of minutes at a Chorley team that are going well - he got 90 in the tank the other night and we have enough options available to us.
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He definitely needs regular game time and will get it at Chorley.
He's definitely a keeper for next season imvho.
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Not sure on the fascination with having Justin Donawa here right now.
Let him go and get plenty of minutes at a Chorley team that are going well - he got 90 in the tank the other night and we have enough options available to us.
Because Banks and Jones are playing every minute.
Donawa is more than capable RB, could play last 30 for Banks or even Banks to LB and Jones have some rest.
If we are rotating to keep players fresh, which I don’t agree with, then we have no fullback cover and only Wilson as CM cover. The positions that cover the most ground.
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Fom the bits I have seen of Justin Donowa, he could happily adapt to either full back or winger so it does seem strange that he's been allowed to go out on loan.
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Being honest, I'm yet to be fully convinced by him as a right back in a flat back four - he looked a bit awkward at Hyde, but I suppose they all looked off it.
That's not to say I can't be convinced, I just haven't seen enough of him there yet. He looked brilliant against Stockport in pre season, but I'm pretty sure he was a wing back.
I think he played at full back for Chorley the other night though.
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More rain coming down this morning (some of it quite heavy), going to need it to stay dry now as I doubt the pitch can take much more.
Not particularly very warm or windy either, which isn't going to help - sun shining tomorrow though.
How much sand have we got?!
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It's due to be dry from around 6pm today up to kick off.If it's off with what isn't a huge amount of rainfall this week there will be more games called off in March and it will mean playing three games a week at some stage or moving games to another ground.
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I think you're wrong on the rain front. It's been raining overnight.
Wythenshawe park is flooded. The railway track is flooded where it goes under Park Road in Timperley, Timperley athletics track is under standing water, as is my son's garden which is close by.
If it does go ahead it will be all credit to the groundsmen and volounteers who well have a real challenge on their hands. Assuming they can get rid of any surface water it's going to be very soft.
I hope it does go ahead just to blot out the pain of Tuesday night's second half.
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Some context re. tomorrow's visitors, courtesy of the splendid John Laidlar:
"It's now four defeats on the spin in the league for Alan Devonshire's men, who briefly rekindled hopes of a play-off charge earlier this month... Since then, missed chances and misfortune have afflicted the team at a crucial juncture of the season, with the side losing a game they should have handsomely won at Boreham Wood before going down to a 2-1 defeat in the 98th minute at FC Halifax Town last week.
Saturday's 3-1 loss to Oldham Athletic and last night's 2-1 loss to Southend United were much more disappointing performances and few could argue they deserved anything from either contest.
United briefly came to life towards the end of the first half, when Kevin Lokko rose well to head home Sam Barratt's free kick to make it 1-1, but generally, they were second best to a Shrimpers side who started the night four points below them in the National League table....
Devonshire's men hav[e] failed to score more than one goal in all but one of their last 12 matches, now 13. It means that whenever they fall behind, there's a general unease about whether they have the firepower to get back into a game."
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i blame his cap
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Some context re. tomorrow's visitors, courtesy of the splendid John Laidlar:
"It's now four defeats on the spin in the league for Alan Devonshire's men, who briefly rekindled hopes of a play-off charge earlier this month... Since then, missed chances and misfortune have afflicted the team at a crucial juncture of the season, with the side losing a game they should have handsomely won at Boreham Wood before going down to a 2-1 defeat in the 98th minute at FC Halifax Town last week.
Saturday's 3-1 loss to Oldham Athletic and last night's 2-1 loss to Southend United were much more disappointing performances and few could argue they deserved anything from either contest.
United briefly came to life towards the end of the first half, when Kevin Lokko rose well to head home Sam Barratt's free kick to make it 1-1, but generally, they were second best to a Shrimpers side who started the night four points below them in the National League table....
Devonshire's men hav[e] failed to score more than one goal in all but one of their last 12 matches, now 13. It means that whenever they fall behind, there's a general unease about whether they have the firepower to get back into a game."
0-4 to them it is then
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I usually leave around 12.00 to go to home games, does anybody think that there is a risk of it not being on.
Cheers
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Some context re. tomorrow's visitors, courtesy of the splendid John Laidlar:
"It's now four defeats on the spin in the league for Alan Devonshire's men, who briefly rekindled hopes of a play-off charge earlier this month... Since then, missed chances and misfortune have afflicted the team at a crucial juncture of the season, with the side losing a game they should have handsomely won at Boreham Wood before going down to a 2-1 defeat in the 98th minute at FC Halifax Town last week.
Saturday's 3-1 loss to Oldham Athletic and last night's 2-1 loss to Southend United were much more disappointing performances and few could argue they deserved anything from either contest.
United briefly came to life towards the end of the first half, when Kevin Lokko rose well to head home Sam Barratt's free kick to make it 1-1, but generally, they were second best to a Shrimpers side who started the night four points below them in the National League table....
Devonshire's men hav[e] failed to score more than one goal in all but one of their last 12 matches, now 13. It means that whenever they fall behind, there's a general unease about whether they have the firepower to get back into a game."
0-4 to them it is then
I usually like your witticisms AA but don't even think that! 😉
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I usually leave around 12.00 to go to home games, does anybody think that there is a risk of it not being on.
Cheers
I think it will be fine. Crucially there’s no rain forecast tomorrow & should actually be some sun a couple of hours before kick off. If there was going to be a pitch inspection (assuming part time Maidenhead will just be travelling up on the day) sure it would have been announced by now as guess they’d need to leave no later then about 0930. Pitch will be heavy again needless to say.
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I usually leave around 12.00 to go to home games, does anybody think that there is a risk of it not being on.
Cheers
I think it will be fine. Crucially there’s no rain forecast tomorrow & should actually be some sun a couple of hours before kick off. If there was going to be a pitch inspection (assuming part time Maidenhead will just be travelling up on the day) sure it would have been announced by now as guess they’d need to leave no later then about 0930. Pitch will be heavy again needless to say.
Cheers SLA
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Some context re. tomorrow's visitors, courtesy of the splendid John Laidlar:
"It's now four defeats on the spin in the league for Alan Devonshire's men, who briefly rekindled hopes of a play-off charge earlier this month... Since then, missed chances and misfortune have afflicted the team at a crucial juncture of the season, with the side losing a game they should have handsomely won at Boreham Wood before going down to a 2-1 defeat in the 98th minute at FC Halifax Town last week.
Saturday's 3-1 loss to Oldham Athletic and last night's 2-1 loss to Southend United were much more disappointing performances and few could argue they deserved anything from either contest.
United briefly came to life towards the end of the first half, when Kevin Lokko rose well to head home Sam Barratt's free kick to make it 1-1, but generally, they were second best to a Shrimpers side who started the night four points below them in the National League table....
Devonshire's men hav[e] failed to score more than one goal in all but one of their last 12 matches, now 13. It means that whenever they fall behind, there's a general unease about whether they have the firepower to get back into a game."
0-4 to them it is then
I usually like your witticisms AA but don't even think that! 😉
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We are in a bit of trouble here…..
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I said it on Tuesday. If Baines is on the bench we are vulnerable.
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DEEP trouble….
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Playoffs my arse. That was embarrassing.
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Where to start with that?
Firstly, play stupid games (leave your best defender and best midfielder on the bench), win sh*t prizes.
We dropped Lewis Baines for a lad we signed because he was Ollie Byrne's cousin.
If rotation is such a big thing, then why doesn't it apply to Elliott Osborne like it does to the others?
And on that subject, today was Osborne-Ball. Slow, ponderous, side to side, backwards... and then, never fear! - a lovely floaty diagonal long ball. Let's just hope it doesn't get picked out of the sky. Oh.
George Wilson has his merits, but he's a Mini-Osborne. Either one of them with Marriott is fine, but we're horrible with those two together.
The one fella I'll give a shout out to is Regan Linney, who did his best despite naff all happening around him. Alex Newby in particular had a shocker.
I think I saw Lewis Banks go down the line once. Every other time he checked back inside and went backwards. That must have been a tactical instruction.
The passage of play between our goal and their equaliser is about as disgusting as it gets. Paid them far too much disrespect and fair play to them for taking advantage. Like the Bronley home game on steroids.
Did I mention that I think Elliott Osborne is a myth? Are we praising him because he's just not been rubbish?
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Never believe in rotation.
Momentum has gone.
If players can’t start two games then we might aswell be part time.
Parky is way overthinking sh*t.
Killing us and we certainly do not have the quality in depth.
Not playing our best CB is a joke.
How far away is Ross ?
What is up with Amulazor?
Osborne has been great this season, but now you can tell he has a newborn. In need of a Maxi.
Southend had a run in the season on 14 players. All the teams are playing Tues and Sat.
Might have to dip into the loan market. We certainly should be recalling Donawa, which was a bizarre loan out.
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Thanks Amsterdam! I'm blaming you for that! 😂😂
Seriously though, shocked by the self inflicted problems we've generated with switching about.
All the good tension I'd been holding in has dissipated and I can just settle back and enjoy us being top half. 🙄😒
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I honestly don't know where to start with that.
I am beginning to sound like a broken record on the whole "the defence looks completely s*** without Baines" thing. Has Parky been tapped up by one of our rivals or something?
Our squad players are not of the standard of our first 11. We all know our first 11! Why the f*** is the manager mucking about with it. Resting Marriott? Jesus wept.
I don't know where we go from here. It feels like we have shot ourselves in the foot - both feet actually. Are we afraid of going up?
What is the matter with Alex Newby? Has he fallen out with someone? I'm genuinely baffled.
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Comfortably our worst performance of the season to date, and you now wouldn't be at all surprised if that by the time that we play our next fixture at the JDS, it will be on the back of five consecutive defeats. Our impetus appears to have evaporated.
Relentlessly ponderous, pedestrian and utterly predictable. Losing 3-1 at home and we are still stroking the ball around in our own half as if we were 3-1 up. No apparent ability or plan to change the pattern of the game.
I don't recall us mustering even a single shot on target during that second half.
As others have stated within this thread, why on earth do we persist in starting without our best defender, Lewis Baines?
Fair play to Maidenhead, who worked tirelessly and took their chances. Nonetheless, they must have been astonished by just how inept we were.
A painful experience. Like listening to a seven-inch single being played at 33+1⁄3 rpm.
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It says it all when a couple of dozen on the open end outshout almost 2,200 home fans throughout the second half .Can't find a single positive from today and even some other results going our way barely seems to matter after that performance . It's obvious only our very best starting eleven can rescue our play off push and just as obvious our squad isn't strong enough in depth . New blood needed to reinvigorate us.
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It says it all when a couple of dozen on the open end outshout almost 2,200 home fans throughout the second half .Can't find a single positive from today and even some other results going our way barely seems to matter after that performance . It's obvious only our very best starting eleven can rescue our play off push and just as obvious our squad isn't strong enough in depth . New blood needed to reinvigorate us.
positives, scoreboard and ball kids kids.
head up matey
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The scoreboard is indeed fabulous.
Arguably our best player today 🤣
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Other positives....
Did not get wet.
Pitch held up....especially goal area we kicking towards.
An amusing (sometimes annoying) bunch of young jocks....no idea what that was about.
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Ok fellas your right , all together now...."always look on the bright side " etc etc . 👍😀
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Just watched Parkys interview.. in fairness he didn’t try to blag it he said we were poor today in all departments. Let’s just hope it turns back round to where it’s been for most of the season, like others, I do believe once Ethan returns things will pick up again.
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There’s a few that are putting themselves on the release list for the summer
How Roscoe gets a start ahead of Baines honestly baffles me. Us fans on here established Cooper and Baines are the best CB pairing so why the f**k does PP tinker with it.
Wilson isn’t NL standard yet, he should go to Chorley and we have Donowa back.
We are in serious trouble of our season being over after the next couple of games, CCC will be off in the summer too.
‘Please bring a mate to the games’ said Parky. Play your best XI and we might do you arrogant man
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When the players came over for a drink during a break in play there was noticeably no passion from the management or players. Poor body language all round. As if they've given up or just so tired
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The positive is the result barely dented our playoff chances.
The negative is that performance (& the last 2) have severely dented our playoff chances.
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If we lose the next two (away), and we easily could, hope will surely start to fade. It already has for me 😕
You never should write off the Supers though!
Come on you Super Robins make us believe again! 🇦🇹🤞
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Two weeks ago we were talking about a realistic chance of finishing second or third. Top seven is still on the cards and in our own hands
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This is the downside to the way we play. When it's on we're absolutely flying, the football is quick, the passing direct and we're full of flair. Solihull, Eastleigh, Rochdale, Barnet were all like this and, even though we lost, the Chesterfield game was similar. Unfortunately when it isn't working, it really isn't. In the last few seasons exactly the same thing has happened. We suddenly lose the magic of it and I'm sure many of us have seen Saturday's performance before over the last 3 seasons. Frustrating, flat and unsure of ourselves. We seem completely incapable of creating anything, there's no way through, we're slow, we give the ball away and we begin to leak goals with no reply. You can tell it's happening because we start to play increasingly speculative long balls and through balls than nobody is getting near signalling that the team has lost faith and confidence in themselves to get the system working.
The question is how do we get out of this rut and get back into the groove of the Parkinson 4-2-3-1? Is it tiredness? We looked exhausted with 30 mins to go on Saturday. Is it confidence? As mentioned above we shrunk away from that yesterday. The players absolutely did not believe we could get back into it the body language said it all.
I think it might be a mix of the two and I think that there is a real element of us overplaying and overthinking it as well. The play is not natural at the moment, it's forced. By that I mean, for example, the flicks that are going nowhere. CCC was guilty of this on Sat and many others...overplaying and forced. The movement is static and we're too rigid in playing the system waiting and waiting in the form of of playing it around the back 4 until the "perfect" opportunity to set up an attack comes. Back and forth over and over again but the attack opportunity isn't coming so we play those long balls out of frustration and try to switch the play. The risk/reward factor increases and we inevitably lose out. It's a vicious cycle because when the team lose faith in the system it collapses and there's no Plan B, so we try to match the opposition and obviously we can't play what they've been playing all season as well as they can.
Now, I'll concede that the pitch is terrible so there's an element of going long to avoid that which is valid and I understand it. There's also an element of resting and mixing the team up to keep things fresh, which I understand as well but the problem runs deeper than that. Take Gould for instance. He hasn't suddenly become poor or performed terribly, it's a consequence of the way the team is playing. He was calm, assured and commanding against Eastleigh, Rochdale, Solihull etc but then against Aldershot and Hartlepool especially he didn't look like that at all. That's down to the confidence in the side as a whole, it's down to the pressure the back 4 is under and it's down to the frequency we're now giving the ball away and not valuing the possession like we had been previously. Mistakes then happen (Kosylo for the first goal against Hartlepool, giving it away carelessly)
In my opinion Phil and Neil need to strip everything back again and almost start from scratch. If we can get back to the fundamentals of the system and focus on outcome instead of the process then it might all switch back into place. Perhaps we need to start getting it into the final third at any cost and get into those phases of play near the by-line where we can hurt teams and get it cut back towards the penalty spot. Be slightly more direct and go through the middle to reach those positions if needed rather than the intricate build up play that proceeds it until we reach a level of flow and confidence where we can be more assured at doing that.
We're more than capable and to finish on a positive I've never seen us be so overwhelming at playing this way until this season. We have the players to do it and until this year I haven't seen us be so dominant in the National League either. It works, we just need to regain confidence and slip back into the flow of playing it effectively.
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The scoreboard is indeed fabulous.
Arguably our best player today 🤣
Needs to show more favourable scoreline.😱
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The scoreboard is indeed fabulous.
Arguably our best player today 🤣
Aside from when they left the clock/timer on it running throughout half-time... :D
Another highlight was that bizarre rectangle of lush green turf located amongst the sand dunes directly in front of the main stand.
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The scoreboard is indeed fabulous.
Arguably our best player today 🤣
Aside from when they left the clock/timer on it running throughout half-time... :D
Another highlight was that bizarre rectangle of lush green turf located amongst the sand dunes directly in front of the main stand.
I noticed that too. I kept expecting it to break loose from the 'dune' but it remained resolutely intact to the end.
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i think the scoreboard is the least of our problems tbh
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I've just re-watched the highlights. We were good for fifteen minutes and then we just seemed to lose heart. All credit to Maidenhead.
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Maidenhead travelled up by coach and should have been tired. How inconsiderate.
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They did a proper job on us , energy levels all over the park outstanding , our wingers and Chris were all forced deeper as the game wore on and they thoroughly deserved their win.